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The Hobby Showroom => Pheon Models => Topic started by: rowan broadbent on December 05, 2012, 05:23:22 AM
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Hello All!
Here are the final option choices (as at 07/01/2013).
Different colour schemes shown are mostly representative only - it is very difficult to be sure of the exact patterns from most photographs. Where we have a higher degree of certainty this will be noted and the reasons given in the accompanying booklet.
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As promised,
here are the identities for the above, in the order they appear:
1. Hannover Cl.II 13080/17 Unit unknown
2. Hannover Cl.II Serial Unknown Schlasta 12, March 1918
3. Hannover Cl.II 9338/17, Schlasta 24b, Sgt Zitzelsberger & Vzfw. Müller, Erchin, March 1918
4. Hannover Cl.II 9390/17 Schusta 30b, Inchy, March 1918
5. Hannover Cl.II 13282/17 Schlasta 31b,Vzfw.Peez & Gefr.Lang, Hangest, May 1918
6. Hannover Cl.II 132??/17 Schlasta 16, Linselles, May 1918
7. Hannover Cl.II 9387/17 Schlasta 19, Tourmignies, December 1917
8. Hannover Cl.II serial unknown, Schusta 27b, Bertry December 1917
9. Hannover Cl.II 9301/17 Schusta 12, Flg.Karl Romann & Vzfw.Georg Winkler, Wyngehene, January 1918
10. Hannover Cl.II 13181/17 Fl.Abt. (A) 226, Vzfw. Willy Engler & Ltn.Alfred Kuerman
11. Hannover Cl.II 13253/17 Schlasta 34, Dury, May 1918
12. Han ClII 218, Polish Air Service, post WWI
Pre-orders being taken now Price will be £15.50 plus P&P. For pre-orders placed before the end of January 2013 the price will be £13.50
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You Da Man! Those look good enough for me to buy myself an X-Mas
present!
Jim
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They're very nice indeed!
For reference - are you still considering a set for the Airfix Hannover? That's supposed to be a Cl.IIIa, yes?
The oldest surviving model I have - that's from nearly forty years ago. But I never had the courage to paint the lozenge scheme as per the instructions; it proudly boasts a garish coat of Humbrol's German Purple ;)
Mark
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Those look great Rowan! I will very likely be interested in a set. Can you give us some information on the units represented?
My limited internet research since the WNW kit was released last week has led me to an interesting subject for the Hannover CL.ii, although I am unaware of any photos of the planes involved. According to the Aces section at the Aerodrome site, in 1918 Vizfeldwebel Gottfried Ehmann and his pilot Friedrich Huffzky flew a Hannover CL.ii with Schlasta 15 whilst scoring most of their 12 credited aerial victories, which ranked them as the leading German 2-seater aces of the war. This would be a historically significant aircraft, if there was some way to identify markings for it. Are any of your profiles Schlasta 15 aircraft? I'll keep researching and let you know what I find.
Thanks for taking on this sheet!
Regards,
Bob
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Whooops! Belay that last request. My further research has revealed that markings for Ehmann's aircraft will have to await the release of a Halberstadt CL.ii by WNW! :-\ My mistake! After seeing the Halberstadt reference in other materials, I went back and checked the Aerodrome bio, and sure enough, my weary bleary old eyes had seen Hannover where Halberstadt was clearly stated. Oh well . . .
On the bright side, I love the schemes you've presented, and we don't have to do any more research! ;) I still would like some unit info if you have it though. Thanks, and sorry for the false alarm. ???
Regards,
Bob
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Put me down for a set Rowan! :)
Looking good to me!
Ken
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Thanks chaps!
Identities , crew and units of the subjects now added to IP. Sorry Bob, no Schlasta 15 included - they flew Hlberstadts, as you said, both Cl.II and IV types. I don't have a photo of the machine flown by the two crew you mentioned, but the Schlasta marking was a white band around the rear fuselage, with an individual number in black, later white, behind the band.
R
BTW most of my information comes from the excellent Schlachtflieger! by the late and much lamented Dan-San Abbott and Rick Duiven, other info from the Windsock Datafile 23, by Peter Grosz, of course..
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OmiGod, what have I started? Another captured German aircraft!! ;D ;D
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They look great! Probably too late, but any chance the Wandervogel scheme from page 1 of the datafile and or the one from the bottom of page 10 with the large flapping bird, #5 and chevron?
Thanks!
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They look great! Probably too late, but any chance the Wandervogel scheme from page 1 of the datafile and or the one from the bottom of page 10 with the large flapping bird, #5 and chevron?
Thanks!
The Wandervogel is a Cl.IIIA, I think. The chevron/no 5/flapping bird one I thought about but I wasn't too happy that I could reproduce the bird accurately as the photo was quite poor and at a narrow angle. I'll look again - there could be room on the decal sheet....
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You can put me down for a sheet Rowan! Thanks for the unit info, and a great looking set of markings. Uh oh, . . . now I'll have to order more Hannovers. ;) I think I'm fast approaching the point of needing to join the 147-year old club! ::)
Regards,
Bob
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Those are amazing. I really like the choices.
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Great stuff. For me I think its the decals driving the kit purchase!!
Steve
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The Wandervogel is a Cl.IIIA, I think. The chevron/no 5/flapping bird one I thought about but I wasn't too happy that I could reproduce the bird accurately as the photo was quite poor and at a narrow angle. I'll look again - there could be room on the decal sheet....
Ooops - you are correct on the Cllla for the Wandervogel - at least the caption calls it out as that. Concerning the flapping bird, yeah, it is a little hard to make out the details, particularly the back half of it. I was thinking it might look kinda similar to the French Storks insignia in that regard - with its legs and feet trailing behind outstretched.
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How are the decals going Rowan, have you made any head way yet, looking forward to seeing what you are going to release. I have just started building my Hannover so it will be a little while before I get to the decal stage, please keep me informed.
Des.
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How are the decals going Rowan, have you made any head way yet, looking forward to seeing what you are going to release. I have just started building my Hannover so it will be a little while before I get to the decal stage, please keep me informed.
Des.
Hello Des,
I've changed a couple of the designs - lost one which turned out to be a ClIIIa, not a Cl.II (thanks Richard!) and added a couple to replace it (new drawings going up here soon). I 'm also trying to find a way to include chequerboard markings for a Polish one - but these may have to be held over for a separate Polish set as space on the decal sheet is limited. All I am waiting for now is for the French so-called postal service to cough up my kit so that I can tailor the decals. The artwork can then go to the printers. The earliest I could expect them would be mid/end of January - is that too late for you?
R
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Thanks Rowan for the update, it all sound very exciting especially the Polish markings.. As I said, I have only just started my kit and I plan on taking my time, so mid January sounds okay at this stage, the Christmas/NewYear celebration period will slow my building progress somewhat :) :) :D ;) ;)
Des.
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Rowan, I thank you for the update, too. And especially for your care to include Polish version. I am determined to build that Cl.II from Lawica - the airfield in my home city Poznan. Your decals will be more than welcome. I will eagerly use checkerboards but what I am looking forward even more is the serial "Han. Cl.II 218".
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Rowan,
Thanks so much for the update my friend. Looking forward to seeing the latest drawings.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Merry Christmas to You and Yours
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:)Rowan, I and my colleagues are asking for a Polish version of liveries.
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Hi Rowan, and gentlemen
I'm a little surprised to see so much of the Prussian blue on the Cl II's? This may be my ignorance, so please stay with me!
My impression was, from reading Dan San Abbotts thoughts, that the blue was not necessarily such a common feature and the the lozenge paint finish was more prevalent? I don't have DSA's mighty tome so I don't have direct access to the sources and might have got the wrong end of the stick...
One question - does anyone know if WNW are going to produce the later III/a variants for the Hannover in kit form? This is the option I'd personally prefer to model, based mainly I suppose on my fondness for the old Airfix kit, but I do prefer the appearance with the later crosses and camo schemes.
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I am still curious as to the question Mark asked: Are you still planning on doing anything with the 1/72nd version?
Warren
PS: Apologies if this has been answered, but I didn't see a reply to his question.
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Hi Rowan, and gentlemen
I'm a little surprised to see so much of the Prussian blue on the Cl II's? This may be my ignorance, so please stay with me!
My impression was, from reading Dan San Abbotts thoughts, that the blue was not necessarily such a common feature and the the lozenge paint finish was more prevalent? I don't have DSA's mighty tome so I don't have direct access to the sources and might have got the wrong end of the stick...
One question - does anyone know if WNW are going to produce the later III/a variants for the Hannover in kit form? This is the option I'd personally prefer to model, based mainly I suppose on my fondness for the old Airfix kit, but I do prefer the appearance with the later crosses and camo schemes.
Firstly, did you read this bit?
"I crave your indulgence on the camouflage schemes; I have some problems in deciding the nature of all the subjects' camouflage, so a number of these are to a degree speculative. I also have some misgivings about the camouflage schemes put forward with regard to the fuselage undersides; I'm hoping for more information coming to light following the release of the WNW kit, so that I can modify the profiles to match... we'll see. "
Now, I liked Dan-San as a man and I had much respect for his efforts in trying to unravel WWI colour conundrums. What I was a little less enamoured of was his propensity for making unequivocal statements on the subject, very often not supported by evidence - or at least evidence which he chose to share. This is an enormous shame and sadly colours my attitude to many of his pronouncements. I have the book he and Rick Duiven wrote on the Schlachtflieger and I have read and re-read what he has written on the subject of Hannover colours (and the other Cl class aircraft) and also what else is in the published domain; so far I cannot find anything that contradicts Wingnut's carefully stated and quite tentative view on the subject in the Hannover instructions.
Many people have recently been prompted by the release of the WNW kit to have another look at the whole question of Hannover camouflage schemes - so far all I have read reveals nothing new, just more supposition and guesswork based on the pre-existing inadequate information. We modellers always seek absolutes on WWI colours and markings and I have to report that from my experience there are only a limited number of certainties which are valid - despite what some would have you believe "from the mountain-top".
So, I remain in the camp which believes that there were areas of colour on the fuselage - applied with care in some instances and more vaguely in others- which bore a colour and tonal relationship to the dyes used in the printed camouflage fabrics and that these areas were very often over-sprayed with dark colour - a dark blue or a dark green with the possible/probable intention of binding the various shades together and rendering them less distinct. I also am of the opinion that the undersides of the fuselage were probably painted in different colours more in tune with the light underside fabric palette. Were there some aircraft which were not over-sprayed or finished in more regular colour patches? Possibly. Does there exist explicit or clear written or photographic evidence for this? - not that I've seen. You will, I hope, notice a distinct lack of emphatic and decisive statements. I know that some may believe this to be in some way lacking in manly virtue; well, if so I shall wear my apparent androgyny with pride!! Testosterone-fuelled ego and WWI colour scheme research are ill-matched colleagues...
As to whether Wingnuts will produce the later Cl.III or IIIa - your guess is as good as any but personally I would err towards thinking it unlikely; the differences between the Cl.II and the later versions seem to have been slight - in terms of the machine's overall appearance, but it appears that the changes were primarily aimed at weight-reduction and involved some more or less subtle modifications which shaved weight off here and there. One of the changes was, apparently, a narrower fuselage. How much narrower I don't know but you can see that incorporating a narrower fuselage in a Cl.III/IIIa kit would involve new fuselage shells, new bulkheads etc etc. It seems also that the wingspan was different - and whilst that may have been simply a change in the aileron tip planform, I actually think it might have been a more extensive re-design of the wing (pilots of the Cl.II reported that it was affected by wing vibration at high speeds and that modifications -presumably to the wing- meant that the Cl.III series was much improved in this regard) though how much the appearance of the wing may have been affected, I don't know but you can see that if the changes were, for the sake of discussion, in the number of ribs, then whole new wings would be needed in the kit.
Cor don't ee go on..... Sorry.
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Hello Warren,
I've had another good squint at the Airfix kit and I just don't think decals for it would be worth the effort or sell well enough. Also I couldn't use the artwork for the 32nd scale Cl.II markings for the Cl.IIIa from Airfix - although the latter is sufficiently in need of attention with regard to its accuracy that dressing it up as a ClII wouldn't be difficult to do at the same time!
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Hi Rowan - I did indeed read the first para but I was always told 'if in doubt, ask', and I'm glad I did - thanks for your excellent reply.
I agree with your remark re the late DSA and the tendency to make pronouncements which I think detracts rather than adds to discussion at times. I too err on the side of frocking about rather than taking a legs akimbo stance on anything, as this gives a much better chance to be able to discuss things constructively and, dare I say, with enjoyment.
As I'm sure we've all seen in other forums, unfortunately some members of the WWI community do like adopt a near confrontational 'my supposition is more accurate than your supposition' approach and then proceed to go at it like testosterone-fuelled yaks in rut, which I'm sure alienates those who are less, er, 'committed' enthusiasts. And I'd much rather be an enthusiast than a fanatic!
I'm old enough to have made one of the old Eduard 1/48 Hannover Cl IIIa's and ended up by applying a dark green overspray, approximating to the darker of the greens in the 5 colour fabric, simply as it seemed to look more appropriate ::). Not too scientific! Perhaps I was simply infuenced by the first Airfix 'bagged' kit which I enjoyed making so much back then...
With regard to the possibility of WNW producing a ClIII/a I've just received this helpful response back from Richard @WNW:
We designed the Hannover Cl.II parts and sprues in such a way that at some time in the future it would be possible to produce a Cl.III or Cl.IIIa but creating a number of new parts. All parts on sprue F are specific to the Cl.II.
At this time we have no plans to start modelling the Cl.III or Cl.IIIa versions but because of the above we can, sometime in the far future, if we want to. This is only a possibility, not a probability.
Regards
Richard
Rowan, thanks as ever for your considered reply and I look forward to the release of both the kit and your decal sheet, once I've decided which one to model - yellow 5 or the 'arrowed' one are competing at the moment...
All the very best to you (and Sabine) and your time and work are VERY much appreciated,
Cheers,
Peter
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Hello Warren,
I've had another good squint at the Airfix kit and I just don't think decals for it would be worth the effort or sell well enough. Also I couldn't use the artwork for the 32nd scale Cl.II markings for the Cl.IIIa from Airfix - although the latter is sufficiently in need of attention with regard to its accuracy that dressing it up as a ClII wouldn't be difficult to do at the same time!
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Thanks Rowan, that what I thought/was afraid you'd say, but I completely understand from a practical point of view.
Warren
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its all fine a dandy thet pheon plans to produce some optional markings for the wnw hannover. after receiving the kit i think we need lozenge for this kit,like the cookioe cutter stuff for the albatros dv/dva. the new wnw lozenge just plain sucks. i'm sorry this is how i feel. they tryed to fade it down from the older stuff that came with the earlier wnw releases ,good idea,poor execution. i have 14 wnw kits. every german kit i have with lozenge i have to buy am stuff. ive been using db decals which i really like but doug wont respond to emails anymore. so either i cant build my kits or i have the make masks,mix custom colors and layer them on.so imho what is really needed is more cookie cutter lozenge for the 1/32 kits. other wise i'm screwed.
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There are other nice loz decals around, such as HGW http://battlefield.eshop-zdarma.cz/index.php?p=5 and Wood and Wire http://www.nordlandmodels.com/category/decals-1-32:896/
I've got both and they look great!
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to be honest ive been looking at the wood and wire stuff on norland, i like the "faded" ones with the fabric texture. they look like they would look stunning on a wing. they are very close to the stuff db puts out color wise. i just am very disapointed in wnw toyish looking lozenge and i dont understand why they bother when most of us get better looking lozenge anyway. maybe they should do a with or without lozenge option so we dont have to pay for decals that never get used.
the hgw stuff looks splendid too i guess i need to check into pricing and sq.cm of coverage to make the choice.
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I have showed Richard Alexander the HGW and Wood & Wire sets at our last IPMS club meeting and he had a good hard look. Didn't say much, but Richard never talks 'shop' anyway. WNW do practice 'continuous improvement' and read all our posts on forums.
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its all fine a dandy thet pheon plans to produce some optional markings for the wnw hannover. after receiving the kit i think we need lozenge for this kit,like the cookioe cutter stuff for the albatros dv/dva. the new wnw lozenge just plain sucks. i'm sorry this is how i feel. they tryed to fade it down from the older stuff that came with the earlier wnw releases ,good idea,poor execution. i have 14 wnw kits. every german kit i have with lozenge i have to buy am stuff. ive been using db decals which i really like but doug wont respond to emails anymore. so either i cant build my kits or i have the make masks,mix custom colors and layer them on.so imho what is really needed is more cookie cutter lozenge for the 1/32 kits. other wise i'm screwed.
Albatros 1234
You might consider Microsculpt 1:48 Woven Linen Fabric Texture decals over top; it tones down the stark colour contrast and does impart a fabric" texture. I used it on my last build over WNW after market lozenge and liked the results however I agree with your point totally on the Wood and Wire faded stuff, it looks positively outstanding and I'll be ordering some real soon. Here's a couple of photos of the completed microsculpt application, it's fussy and you really have to work at not getting air bubbles trapped but if you use it in smaller sections it works well. I plan on using it again on some of the WNW Kits however I think I'll try the Wood and Wire stuff first.
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/IMG_1664.jpg)
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/IMG_1691.jpg)
Cheers,
Lance
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Hey Lance, that Albie looks sweet! I must have missed it earlier. Can you please throw up the links to save me some time finding it, so I can admire your handiwork further? Thanks. [Sorry for the link hijack Rowan]. If that one's not already posted, well, you know what needs to be done! ;)
Regards,
Bob
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Hey Lance, that Albie looks sweet! I must have missed it earlier. Can you please throw up the links to save me some time finding it, so I can admire your handiwork further? Thanks. [Sorry for the link hijack Rowan]. If that one's not already posted, well, you know what needs to be done! ;)
Regards,
Bob
Bob,
Build Log is at "Under Construction" Page 3 and titled the same as the "Completed Models" Thread Page 4 "WNW Albatros DV - Jasta 15 - Kurt Monnington"
Cheers,
Lance
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Oi you lot, get orf moi thread :P!
I have posted the revised profiles in the OP at the head of this thread. Have removed the white arrow one as, on re-examining the photo (thanks again, Richard!) it was clearly a CLIIIa.... Also gone is the captured one in before and after markings - that will re-appear on volume two of "Captured!" I expect. The replacements are the bird/dragonfly one (op 8 p.2), "Nelly"01 op 9 P3 and - just for Przemol - the Polish no 218, op 12 P3.
I now finally have my Hannover kit - and what a beauty it is!- so now the final fitting and fettling of the decals themselves can be done. The artwork should be away to the printers in a couple of days so I would expect the decals to be ready by mid February.
Pre-orders being taken now Price will be £15.50 plus P&P. For pre-orders placed before the end of January 2013 the price will be £13.50
I note the plea for lozenge decals. I can't give any specifics yet but something is coming.......
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I have posted the revised profiles in the OP at the head of this thread. Have removed the white arrow one as, on re-examining the photo (thanks again, Richard!) it was clearly a CLIIIa.... Also gone is the captured one in before and after markings - that will re-appear on volume two of "Captured!" I expect. The replacements are the bird/dragonfly one (op 8 p.2), "Nelly"01 op 9 P3 and - just for Przemol - the Polish no 218, op 12 P3.
Rowan, I am delighted and personally very grateful you have taken my plea into account. It is my great pleasure to see that Polish scheme a/c from 1919 serving for recco missions during the Polish uprising against Germans which brought freedom to my homeland! I will gladly build my Hannover with those decals! I have just sent you a pre-order email.
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Hi Przemo. Since Rowan has included the Polish Hannover on the sheet, I'd really like to hear more about the history and operational use of this particular aircraft. How did the Polish Air Service obtain the aircraft, how was it used, and who were the fliers who used it? What do you know about the camoflage and colors? Can you give us a little background, either here or in another part of the Forum? Thanks!
Sorry for another apparent partial thread hijack Rowan, but look at the upside: maybe you'll get some more information for the very thorough information booklet you always include with your sheets! ;)
Regards,
Bob
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It is my pleasure to provide the following information I have found recently:
Hannover Cl.II 218/18 was bought in 1919 from Germany (funny, there were some serious fighting between Poles and Germans in that time and this very a/c was later used against the seller!) as 667/18 (built by Roland) and arrived at Lawica aerodrome (now Poznan International Airport) on 30.04.1919. It was overhauled, repainted and serialled 218/18 before 05.05.1919. The colours were presumably green and brown, undersides most likely left in original Roland light blue. Used for recce mission over Pila (Schneidemuehl) on 12.05.1919 and damaged during the landing - flown by Lt. Jerzy Dziembowski and Serg. Zdzislaw Bilazewski. Repaired and later used in Pilot School at Lawica between 11.09.1919 and 01.11.1919. On 01.11 disassembled and sent to the eastern front - to Lwow (now Lviv, Ukraine) destined for 5. Sqn. However, after the assembly on 06.12.1919 found to be in too bad condition to be used in front service. Still, on 18.02.1920 sent to 9. Sqn but again found unfit for front service, sent to Warsaw to Central Aircraft Depot on 02.06.1920. Then moved to Central Aircraft Workshop (CWL) on 18.06.1920, where it was probably cancelled.
Sources:
M. Kabatek, R. Kulczynski, Aviation History of Pila Region (Lotnicza Historia Ziemi Pilskiej 1910 -1945), Stratus, Sandomierz, 2011.
T. Kopanski, Aircraft Hannover CL.II in Poland (Samoloty Hannover Cl.II w Polsce), in: Military Aviation (Lotnictwo Wojskowe), vol.1, 1998.
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Przemo,
Many, many thanks for posting that history!- I hope that you will allow me to use it (quoting the source, of course) in the booklet. I would have had no chance of getting that sort of detail from my published sources. We really need something comprehensive in print for us English speakers about this most interesting and important period of Polish aeronautical history - if there is anything out there that I've overlooked, please let me know!!
I still only have the single photo of this machine in the Datafile and I've done the best I can with the serial number; do you have any better photos which you could send me? I've also shown the observer as having a Lewis rather than a Parabellum m/g, as I believe that that was standard issue for the Polish Air Arm at that time. Do you have any information on that?
By the way, the Polish wing insignia are tailored to fit the WNW plastic parts exactly at full chord - seoarate decals for tyhe wing and aileron (with double printing of the white areas, so no need for paint). I have also shown them as not handed, that is with the red square in the top left and bottom right positions on both right and left sides; can you confirm that this is correct?
Thanks again,
Rowan
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Rowan, that was exactly my idea that you would use this story in the decal booklet. You are welcome to do so!
It is great news to hear that Polish checkboards will be included in the sheet. But, please note their position, they extended to the wing zones were these were tapered, so the boards are not simple rectangles.
And as for the layout of red and white fields - it was an early period of Polish aviation and no standards were yet established. From the photos of Cl.II 218 it can be seen that the boards on the right side of the fuselage and fin had red field at top left. I do not know any photo showing the left side, so one has to guess - any way is likely probable. The top wing had a not-handed version, again with red in the top left (when seen in the flight direction). The second photo I found in the above mentioned book and article shows, that if looked in the flight direction from the bottom of the wings the boards were also not-handed with white fields at the top left. In other words considering both wings, red fields on the top were exactly over the red fields on the bottom, and the same about the white ones - top ones exactly over the bottom ones. Unfortunately this second photo does not reveal anything new concerning the layout of two-colour camo.
The armament question is rather easy to answer, most likely there were no guns fitted to 218, at least during that recce mission on May 12th (btw, I have read more and found that the crew also took leaflets with a text encouraging Poles to fight agains Germans, to be dropped over Pila).
I will send you the photo to your email.
Once again, many thanks, Rowan,, for bringing this machine in Polish colours to the wide public in your decal set!
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Thanks for the additional information Przemo. I recently pre-ordered this sheet, and I really like the Polish markings and may build that version. :)
Your additional information on leaflet distribution raises an interesting detail modeling subject for the Polish Hannover in 1/32 scale: a few bundles of leaflets sitting on the observer's seat!
Regards,
Bob
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You guys are spoilt!!
Outstanding service Rowan and your collegiate approach is to be commended!
One day, when my modelling skills improve, I'll be getting some of your products that's for sure.
Andrew
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I have showed Richard Alexander the HGW and Wood & Wire sets at our last IPMS club meeting and he had a good hard look. Didn't say much, but Richard never talks 'shop' anyway. WNW do practice 'continuous improvement' and read all our posts on forums.
Amen!
I think we all forget that WNW's is only 4 years old and like the rest of us, improving with age. Give the guys more time and you will be rewarded.
Rome wasn't dismantled in a day and all that.
Keep doing what you do best, WNW. You have my thanks and support. ;)
Cheers,
Von UK-Nut-Fanboy :D
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Hello Rowan:
Will you be providing Lozeng decals for the fuselages? If not will you be providing patterns for the modeler to paint them on?
Thanks
Mark
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Mark are you secretly hoping he's not so we all have to go through the same pain you did. :D
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Mark are you secretly hoping he's not so we all have to go through the same pain you did. :D
lol
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Share the pain guys! As we say in the Marine Corps: "Pain is weakness leaving the body, or is it the mind leaving the body?" I can't remember.
It would be nice to get it right and Rowan is the man to do it.
L8R
Mark
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Oi you lot, get orf moi thread :P!
I now finally have my Hannover kit - and what a beauty it is!- so now the final fitting and fettling of the decals themselves can be done. The artwork should be away to the printers in a couple of days so I would expect the decals to be ready by mid February.
Pre-orders being taken now Price will be £15.50 plus P&P. For pre-orders placed before the end of January 2013 the price will be £13.50
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Hello, Rowan How can I preorder a set (January is coming to an end... )?
please let me know
ermeio
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Hello, Rowan How can I preorder a set (January is coming to an end... )?
please let me know
ermeio
Hello Ermeio,
Just send us an email at:
[email protected]
quoting the set number 32043 and Sabine will add your name to the pre-order list.
Rowan
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Rowen,
Will this set of decals contain the lozenge ??
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Rowan,
Any update on when this set will be released? Great looking selections.
Regards,
Paul