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Title: Loocking for information about British PC10 and PC12 dopes.
Post by: xan on June 03, 2020, 04:27:37 PM

Hi everybody.
Nearly all is in the title.
I am loocking for any information about PC10 and PC12 british dopes.
Internet links, references un Gunze paints, historical comparatons, when was used on or the other etc...
thanks

Xan

Title: Re: Loocking for information about British PC10 and PC12 dopes.
Post by: Mossie on June 03, 2020, 05:18:39 PM

The Windsock Fabric Special No 2 is a very good reference on all things fabris for the British.
Also Windscock International Vol.04 No.22 has an article on PC10.
Aircraft Camouflage and Markings 1907 -1954' by Bruce Robertson, first pub 1956.

https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235052854-pc10-paint-mix-and-gunze-paints/

http://wwi-cookup.com/sopwith/modelling/pc10.html

http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2689

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/stuff_eng_colorcharts_uk.htm

If you want to search for more, then put "Fabric and  PC10 colour" into Google. However, the ones I've listed seem to be the better ones.

Title: Re: Loocking for information about British PC10 and PC12 dopes.
Post by: xan on June 03, 2020, 11:07:13 PM

Thank you Gerry

Title: Re: Loocking for information about British PC10 and PC12 dopes.
Post by: Bughunter on June 04, 2020, 02:51:35 AM

I really like the look and the usage of Mr. Paint PC10 and PC12 paints. Have not tried PC8.
Here is the Mr. Paint WWI page: https://mrpaint.sk/farby/WWI

Cheers,
Frank

Title: Re: Loocking for information about British PC10 and PC12 dopes.
Post by: Stuart Malone on June 16, 2020, 03:38:57 AM

I recently mixed up some Vallejo 70.887 three parts to 70.879 one part which comes close to Methuen 4F5 for one possibility of PC10.

I also mixed up 70.826 three parts to 70.888 two parts for Methuen 5F5 as PC12.

Both of these mixes were applied to plastic that had been sprayed with Tamiya Fine grey primer.

My source is my copy of the Methuen Handbook of Colour, 1978, third edition.  I did compare it to a pristine original Reinhold Colour Atlas, and there was a very slight difference between the two.  I don't remember which one was darker/lighter.  The two were very close.

If you're inclined, for a handful of Kopeks, you can buy these four paints, make your own color chips, and mix your favorite paint brand to match.

Title: Re: Loocking for information about British PC10 and PC12 dopes.
Post by: Borsos on June 16, 2020, 05:00:45 AM

Quote from: Bughunter on June 04, 2020, 02:51:35 AM

I really like the look and the usage of Mr. Paint PC10 and PC12 paints. Have not tried PC8.
Here is the Mr. Paint WWI page: https://mrpaint.sk/farby/WWI

Cheers,
Frank

Me too. Both shades are wonderful. I also tried PC-8 which fits the row perfectly.
Andreas

Title: Re: Loocking for information about British PC10 and PC12 dopes.
Post by: Stuart Malone on June 16, 2020, 10:11:07 PM

Here are most, I think, of the Methuen codes given for PC10 in the Windsock Datafiles:

3E8, 3E8
4F2, 4F3, 4F4, 4F5, 4F6, 4F7, 4F8
5F8
30F8

Here are the majority of Methuen codes for PC12 from the WDs:

5F5
8E8
8F8
9E6
9E8

Per the link in the Methuen Handbook of color thread, 9E6 and 9E8 were most likely matched to AMAPDT that was thought to be PC12.

Stuart