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Title: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Ollie on November 26, 2012, 12:35:03 PM
I see that WNW has finally released the Fokker D.VII not one but three (Fokker, Alb and OAW) and they do look sweet!!! Now how to pay for them......
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Dave W on November 26, 2012, 12:49:52 PM
And they have announced a 1/32 Salmson 2-A2! There's a photo on the model kits page with a tag saying the model is in development. No release date given.

cheers

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: petrov27 on November 26, 2012, 12:50:46 PM
orders in!

I bet they get clobbered with demand for the DVII - hope they have a warehouse full!
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Ollie on November 26, 2012, 12:58:04 PM
I didn't see them until now but they have decals for the D. VII as well.
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: rhallinger on November 26, 2012, 01:02:47 PM
Let the frenzy begin!  That's pretty cool new about the Salmson, too.  :)  What a great tease!  If they're doing a Salmson, what else may be waiting in the wings for us?  Oh, the humanity!  ;D

Regards,

Bob
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: petrov27 on November 26, 2012, 01:04:58 PM
yeah - see that Salmson now - several pics of the test shot up there now - looks amazing
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: rhallinger on November 26, 2012, 01:16:38 PM
Looks like D.VII heaven!  :D  Schemes for Sachsenberg, Stark, Degalow, LVR and about 30 more with the extra decal sheets. Whooheee!  I'm sure there will be more decals to come, like Udet and maybe the Canadian captives.   8)  Drooling now . . .
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: rhallinger on November 26, 2012, 02:43:30 PM
Uh Oh . . . I've already picked out at least six schemes I really must do, and there are a couple of others that I want that they don't have makings for yet.   :D  Yikes!  ::)  This is going to be expensive.  :P  Just have to remember I can't build them all at once, and ought to spread the enjoyment out over several years.  ;)  Yeah, riiiiight!
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: pepperman42 on November 26, 2012, 03:08:19 PM
Im going one at a time. If the others sell out so be it. Ordered the Fokker version first.

Steve
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Fokker boy on November 26, 2012, 03:16:44 PM
I am one happy boy! Now where's my credit card.
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Vladimir Ziska on November 26, 2012, 03:42:39 PM
Very goooood, I am ordered all Fokkers, superb christmas gift.

Vladimir
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: coyotemagic on November 26, 2012, 03:52:14 PM
After looking over the site, I now understand what took so long.  These kits are amazing in their complexity and completeness.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: kornbeef on November 26, 2012, 04:10:05 PM
OAW Rules....... YAY
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Dekenba on November 26, 2012, 04:52:48 PM
That Salmson looks amazing - can't wait for that to launch.
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Dekenba on November 26, 2012, 04:57:16 PM
Some crazy marking schemes - makes an SE.5a look distinctly boring in comparison!
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Dekenba on November 26, 2012, 05:46:43 PM
I've opted for the OAW on the back of some simply outrageous paint schemes!
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Nigel Jackson on November 26, 2012, 06:19:45 PM
Oh my god! My carte bleue may just change to a carte rouge; I'd better warn the bank.

Nigel
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: kornbeef on November 26, 2012, 07:35:10 PM
It's a pity the didn't include parts for a DVIIF - special edition to come?
Oh I think so. After all they promised ALL variants. 

On a high for me SWMBO has just ordered the Fok & OAW variants for me for Xmas. I couldnt decide which I wanted more.... ;)

Theres so many profiles I want to do but to do Buchner's (Revell) aircraft is something of a must do... there again Stark's Li is one of my favs along with Bruno Loerzer's humbug striped kite.   

I just hope they turn up pre-Xmas not post.
K
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Whiteknuckles on November 26, 2012, 09:12:03 PM
Please bear with me all - Now it's time for a screaming newbie question ;D:

What is the difference between the 3 D.VII 'types' and why produce 3 separate/distinct boxings as opposed to one boxing with extra sprues?

The kits look great and the number of schemes is pretty cool!

Andrew
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: kornbeef on November 26, 2012, 09:35:51 PM
Andrew, Hiya,

Basically the three boxings are the three different manufacturers. Focker built and Albatros and Albatros (OAW) built the D.VII under licence too. On top of that then there are several variants in each box usually early mid and late options.

So with each of these kitset offerings have the early mid and late options. I think besides the fact it's good marketing strategy it makes it simpler for builders to get around the myriad small differences between the various models. Imagine the handbook/instruction sheet with 9-12 variants and 3 manufacturers and the possibility to mess up? Plus that would seriously limit schemes offered and make the kit prohibitively expensive to try to cover all.

A good question though, not all understand and it'll help more than you to understand why.

Well that's my thoughts at least.  ;D

Keith
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 26, 2012, 10:22:27 PM
I am one happy boy! Now where's my credit card.

I'm one happy boy, too! Now where is your credit card?! haha

 :)
BVB
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: mgunns on November 26, 2012, 11:29:04 PM
I knew it, I knew it!  All the indicators were there!  The website wouldn't respond, couldn't pull up anything then here it is.  I knew it!  I am a trained anaylyst you all know!

Not sure which one I will pop for, maybe all three!!!  Anyone want a Revell Kit? 
Now, on to the Gotha, it will make a great companion piece for the Fokkers.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Chris Johnson on November 26, 2012, 11:43:42 PM
Knowing next to nothing about the D.VII, if I wanted to do a Canadian captured version, which kit should I buy?

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Trackpad on November 26, 2012, 11:47:41 PM
Hate to sound like a bit of a Grinch, but I can wait a bit on the Fokker. With a Biff, SE and Albi here, and awaiting the Sopwith Triplane and Snipe, I'm good for the time being. But to you of the younger generation, full of the expectations and enthusiasm of youth...knock yourselves out, and have a great time doing it! Good luck with all of your future DVII builds!   ;D  :D  ;D
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: lcarroll on November 26, 2012, 11:48:08 PM
The potential in markings and specific aircraft is endless! Given my Sopwith Tripe was shipped only a few days ago I'm going to ponder the options for a week or so before ordering. On the other hand the Christmas deadline is not far in the future................"he said shakily as his eyes rolled back in his head and his wallet burst into flames"! WNW have really hit the ball out of the park this time. I suspect nearly everyone's stash is about to grow significantly.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Trackpad on November 26, 2012, 11:55:15 PM
Knowing next to nothing about the D.VII, if I wanted to do a Canadian captured version, which kit should I buy?

Cheers,

Chris


Chris,
Based on photos, OAW and Albatros versions were in the short-lived Canadian Air Force at the end of the war. Not sure of the Fokker version yet, but you have the inside track on two of the manufacturers!  ;D
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: rhallinger on November 27, 2012, 12:12:53 AM
There are now 4 additional D.VII decal sheets posted.  I suspect the WNW will include some markings for the Canadian captives on a sheet at some point, as they've shown willingness to do captured markings, a la the Tripe.  At least I hope they do!  On the other hand, if you don't want to wait, I'm sure you can cobble together the appropriate markings in some fashion.   ;)

Regards,

Bob
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: pepperman42 on November 27, 2012, 12:50:05 AM
Just so I have it right- Loerzer's was a Fokker built 180Ps engined 5 colour lozenge bird...whew.

Steve
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: lcarroll on November 27, 2012, 01:00:10 AM
Knowing next to nothing about the D.VII, if I wanted to do a Canadian captured version, which kit should I buy?

Cheers,

Chris

   The Albatros Pubs Fokker Anthology #3 has a great little piece on what I believe is the only survivor of the 22 DVIIs brought back to Canada after the War.It is Alb. Built 6810/18 and is presently held by the Brome County Historical Society in Knowlton Quebec. This aircraft has numerous parts from OAW Built DVII's on it; comment is that it is not known if these substitutes were done overseas during it's wartime service or while it flew in Canada. From this I'd speculate that Gary's correct, at least OAW and Albatros Built versions served in the "Canadian Airforce". Given we had 22 I'd also say that Fokker Built DVIIs could easily have been included as well.
   In the absence of any other info there are two Public Archives of Canada Documents referenced which could prove helpful; we could always submit a request.
Cheers,
Lance :-\
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: mgunns on November 27, 2012, 02:32:35 AM
Howard Hughes used a bunch of Fokker DVII's in his movie "Hell's Angel's".   They were Army Surplus.
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: kornbeef on November 27, 2012, 03:20:03 AM
Yes I imagine there's gonna be some really nice post war decals coming around from the after market guys. 
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Trackpad on November 27, 2012, 03:21:40 AM
Hate to sound like a bit of a Grinch, but I can wait a bit on the Fokker. With a Biff, SE and Albi here, and awaiting the Sopwith Triplane and Snipe, I'm good for the time being. But to you of the younger generation, full of the expectations and enthusiasm of youth...knock yourselves out, and have a great time doing it! Good luck with all of your future DVII builds!   ;D  :D  ;D

Sopwith Triplane arrived this morning. Hmmm...if I cull the herd a bit more...maybe.....    ;D
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: mgunns on November 27, 2012, 03:57:33 AM
Well, I popped for the OAW version.  I will have to sneak this in under the ever watchful nose of SWMBO.  I have been reading about Bruno Loezer's markings, but I searched all the kits and the additional markings and couldn't find it anywhere.

L8R

Mark
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Galloway on November 27, 2012, 05:04:25 AM
Knowing next to nothing about the D.VII, if I wanted to do a Canadian captured version, which kit should I buy?

Cheers,

Chris

Chris,

     I'm not sure???? But after a quick glance at two of the three kits and their instructions ...... I think they all contain the same parts/parts layout..... I may be wrong as it was a quick once over???

  Ken
   
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: kornbeef on November 27, 2012, 05:06:51 AM
Well, I popped for the OAW version.  I will have to sneak this in under the ever watchful nose of SWMBO.  I have been reading about Bruno Loezer's markings, but I searched all the kits and the additional markings and couldn't find it anywhere.

L8R

Mark
It isnt one of the given options, I can guess a complete sheet of Jasta 26 birds will appear in the near future from WNW or others.  It's just a profile I'd love to do in 1/32nd, simple if you have the right national markings and some near black paint  :o
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: GAJouette on November 27, 2012, 06:27:42 AM
  Too many choices to choose from,but for now I think I pop for the OAW version . I like the U 10 option for some reason. I'll likely wait until after Christmas though. But on the bright side my brace of Sopwith Tripe's and the DH-2 arrived today.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: mgunns on November 27, 2012, 06:58:53 AM
Knowing next to nothing about the D.VII, if I wanted to do a Canadian captured version, which kit should I buy?

Cheers,

Chris

Chris,

     I'm not sure???? But after a quick glance at two of the three kits and their instructions ...... I think they all contain the same parts/parts layout..... I may be wrong as it was a quick once over???

  Ken
 
The parts layout is pretty much the same, but; there are different parts.  In the OAW version the cowling sections are on "J", on the Fokker version they are on "I" and they are different, so; it looks as if the modeler wants a Fokker version, he/she will have to buy the Fokker version.  Clever folks those Wingnut folks.

Mark
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: cgandiaga on November 27, 2012, 07:22:35 AM
Bit on the Fokker and Albie versions..  It's impossible to resist.. :(
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 27, 2012, 07:40:10 AM
I'm gonna wait until I've settled into my new mancave before I go berserk with the old credit card  :o ;D

Von sieben Hobbit
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Trackpad on November 27, 2012, 08:14:02 AM
Hate to sound like a bit of a Grinch, but I can wait a bit on the Fokker. With a Biff, SE and Albi here, and awaiting the Sopwith Triplane and Snipe, I'm good for the time being. But to you of the younger generation, full of the expectations and enthusiasm of youth...knock yourselves out, and have a great time doing it! Good luck with all of your future DVII builds!   ;D  :D  ;D

Sopwith Triplane arrived this morning. Hmmm...if I cull the herd a bit more...maybe.....    ;D

Canadian Fokker DVII. I may have second thoughts about waiting a bit...!:

(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff205/29selley/CanadianFokker.jpg)

The officer is Captain Andrew McKeever, highest scoring Biff ace of the war with 30 victories, whose a/c is the subject of the "mini-group build" by Lance, Chris and me.
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Whiteknuckles on November 27, 2012, 08:25:36 AM
Keith,

thanks for the earlier info on variants and boxings, etc.

Andrew
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Alamotom on November 27, 2012, 11:34:59 AM
Just ordered the OAW. Fokker heaven!
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: lcarroll on November 27, 2012, 02:09:59 PM
Gary,
    So much for my speculation on the Alb. Built origin for this one in my PM; all I had to do was read the (*&*((%$* Serial Number with "OAW" as a suffix! DOOOOOOOOOHH! As I said, fascinating stuff this.
Cheers,
Lance :-[
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: kornbeef on November 27, 2012, 07:54:06 PM
WNW must be pulling out all the stops... I got my *your order has shipped* notice this morning, Now its up to the couriers to spoil Xmas again

Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: rhallinger on November 27, 2012, 09:21:41 PM
Got my ship notice yesterday too.  Based on past experience, I should have them in hand in about a week.  :D

 
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: mgunns on November 27, 2012, 10:42:52 PM
I just got confirmation my Fokker DVII (OAW) was shipped.  Looking forward to getting it.  It will by my next build after the Gotha.

L8R

Mark
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Chris Johnson on November 28, 2012, 01:01:01 AM
Canadian Fokker DVII. I may have second thoughts about waiting a bit...!:

(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff205/29selley/CanadianFokker.jpg)
SHOWN FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES ONLY

The officer is Captain Andrew McKeever, highest scoring Biff ace of the war with 30 victories, whose a/c is the subject of the "mini-group build" by Lance, Chris and me.

And I see that McKeever also flew the Albatros variant with the Richard Kraut markings that WnW thoughtfully provided.

(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/DVII-AlbatrosVariant-RichardKrautScheme-McKeever-1.jpg)
SHOWN FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES ONLY

Maybe I'll have to bite the bullet and get both the OAW and Albatros versions after the initial frenzy wears off.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: pepperman42 on November 28, 2012, 01:12:10 AM
Mine has been shipped too but still no sign of the tripe.

Steve
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: cgandiaga on November 28, 2012, 01:46:04 AM
Got my Tripe today.   Just finishing the f^&%ng rigging on the DH2.  All three Fokkers are on their way now.  I have a "bottleneck"..  ;D
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: mgunns on November 28, 2012, 03:56:31 AM
Got my Tripe today.   Just finishing the f^&%ng rigging on the DH2.  All three Fokkers are on their way now.  I have a "bottleneck"..  ;D
Post a picture of it.  We all would like to see your work.

Best
Mark
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: pepperman42 on November 28, 2012, 10:16:59 AM
Well now that you've shot your bolt on rigging you can relax with a DVII and like Mark said - post some Dh2 pics. Any traps or things to watch out for on it?

Steve
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Rob_Owens on November 28, 2012, 10:59:35 AM
Just ordered one of each, for starters. . .  Luckily, I kept all three Fokker D.VII Anthologies (almost used 'em as a "hook" to help unload (ebay)  that Battle Axe Miststueck years ago!) so I'm presently drooling over the pages. When one gets bored with WWI schemes, there's always Postwar schemes (see Blue Rider Fokker D.VII Foreign  Colour Schemes ISBN 1-902851-14-5)
Merry Christmas to ME!!!!
Regards, Rob
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Fokker boy on November 28, 2012, 11:24:11 AM
Just ordered one of each, for starters. . .  Luckily, I kept all three Fokker D.VII Anthologies (almost used 'em as a "hook" to help unload (ebay)  that Battle Axe Miststueck years ago!) so I'm presently drooling over the pages. When one gets bored with WWI schemes, there's always Postwar schemes (see Blue Rider Fokker D.VII Foreign  Colour Schemes ISBN 1-902851-14-5)
Merry Christmas to ME!!!!
Regards, Rob

Those three, in conjunction with the datafile #9, and the two Osprey D.VII aces books, make for some interesting eye candy.
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Trackpad on November 28, 2012, 11:32:15 AM
OK, I admit it - I wimped: herd culled, seven kits on the block, and an OAW DVII ordered. I TOLD you that I could resist everything but temptation!! If I just hadn't seen that spiffy OAW DVII with the sporty green leaf on the fuselage. Rowan! ROWAN!! Here's your first item for the "Captured!" Volume 2!! (Please, please, please...!!) ;D
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: rhallinger on November 28, 2012, 11:54:02 AM
Here's a second for Rowan on the Canadian captive D.VIIs.  ;)
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: lcarroll on November 28, 2012, 01:18:10 PM
I'll be a "Thirder" Rowan, at a minimum we need the green Maple Leaf Logo of the Post War Canadian Airforce tucked into a corner of your next "Captured" Sheet or even a DVII Sheet. It's only proper we honour the fact that we not only used 22 DVIIs in Canada but they were loaned to and flown by Bishop and Barker in their ill fated commercial ventures. Wish I could know more about all of this, info is sparse.
Cheers,
Lance 8)
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Chris Johnson on November 28, 2012, 11:21:30 PM
I'm jumping on the bandagon too Rowan. I hope you'll consider a sheet of markings from nations that used the D.VII in the immediate postwar years. Towards that end, here's my hurried impression of the CAF marking. The vector file is yours for the asking!  ;D

(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/No1SqnCAF.jpg)

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Trackpad on November 28, 2012, 11:32:28 PM
Ye, Gods!

It looks as if I've started a mini-assault on Pheon Models! But some of these ideas are first rate: post-war Fokkers would be really interesting. How 'bout a couple of the a/c used in Hollywood films of the '20's? Bit of a stretch, but perhaps a possibility if we also do up Tiger Moths to look like SE5s (Blue Max)!  :D
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Trackpad on November 28, 2012, 11:36:32 PM
Just got the word: my OAW DVII is on the way. And the countdown begins!  ;D
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: cgandiaga on November 29, 2012, 02:11:43 AM
Well now that you've shot your bolt on rigging you can relax with a DVII and like Mark said - post some Dh2 pics. Any traps or things to watch out for on it?

Steve

I will post when I'm done.  Probably not to the lofty standards around here, but what the heck.  ;D   Pretty amazing kit;  went together very well.  left the undercarriage off until the last possible moment.  Don't rig the booms too tightly, they can bend and make re-alignment tricky.  Otherwise, a pleasure to build, even if the rigging takes saint-like patience.
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: cgandiaga on November 29, 2012, 02:30:22 AM
Here's my 'Arry Tate..
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: pepperman42 on November 29, 2012, 06:31:57 AM
She looks awsome - and well rigged

Steve
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: mgunns on November 30, 2012, 02:27:27 AM
Hello Cgandiaga:

Nice Looking Harry Tate, very well done. 

Best

Mark
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Nanks on November 30, 2012, 11:45:20 AM
Which kit would I buy if I wanted to build Ernst Udet's mount? the one with the Red and White stripey wing?
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: rhallinger on November 30, 2012, 12:41:12 PM
Excellent question Nanks, and excellent quote!  ;)  I'm a Udet fan and a Heinlein fan as well.    8) 

I'm looking forward to the answer.  Will you await decals, or try to cobble something together on your own?  I suppose one could find decals or dry transfers for the "LO" on the fuselage and "Du doch nicht!" on the elevator.  I plan to do the Udet D.VII at some point as well.

Regards,

Bob
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: pepperman42 on November 30, 2012, 01:50:29 PM
This is a well debated topic. Short answer Fokker early.......or maybe OAW 20??/18...or DVIIF 4253/18......Anthology vol 2 has a 3 pg article on this subject. Have fun!!

Steve
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: rowan broadbent on November 30, 2012, 06:05:17 PM
Which kit would I buy if I wanted to build Ernst Udet's mount? the one with the Red and White stripey wing?

Unfortunately there is much controversy still surrounding the identities of some of Udet's D.VIIs. The best discussion/ dissection I have yet seen is Dave Roberts' excellent article (founded on Ed Ferko's ideas) in the Albatros Fokker D.VII Anthology Volume 2 entitled "The Importance of Being Erni's". In it he discusses the possible scheme(s) of the famous "Du doch nicht!!" D.VII - which I am assuming is the one you're talking about - if so it seems highly likely that it was an early OAW product and it probably had a black nose. In any event, despite its iconic status it was only one of at least four D.VIIs he flew. Udet's later DVIIs were BMW-powered D.VIIFs - the one remaining unreleased part of the WNW D.VII kit jigsaw.

Whilst the waters are not as muddy as "Voss' Cowling" beware of anyone who tells you about Du doch nicht!!'s colours with certainty! A forthcoming decal set from Pheon will feature four OAW D.VIIs from Jasta 4, including two of Erni's - watch for the red glow on the horizon and listen for the rumble of the guns when that is announced........


edited for awful spelling!
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: RAGIII on November 30, 2012, 09:28:24 PM
Which kit would I buy if I wanted to build Ernst Udet's mount? the one with the Red and White stripey wing?

Unfortunately there is much controversy still surrounding the identities of some of Udet's D.VIIs. The best discussion/ dissection I have yet seen is Dave Roberts' excellent article (founded on Ed Ferko's ideas) in the Albatros Fokker D.VII Anthology Volume 2 entitled "The Importance of Being Erni's". In it he discusses the possible scheme(s) of the famous "Du doch nicht!!" D.VII - which I am assuming is the one you're talking about - if so it seems highly likely that it was an early OAW product and it probably had a black nose. In any event, despite its iconic status it was only one of at least four D.VIIs he flew. Udet's later DVIIs were BMW-powered D.VIIFs - the one remaining unreleased part of the WNW D.VII kit jigsaw.

Whilst the waters are not as muddy as "Voss' Cowling" beware of anyone who tells you about Du doch nicht!!'s colours with certainty! A forthcoming decal set from Pheon will feature four OAW D.VIIs from Jasta 4, including two of Erni's - watch for the red glow on the horizon and listen for the rumble of the guns when that is announced........


edited for awful spelling!

Rowan,
I am looking forward to your decals inspite of the conflict they are likely to set off  8) Probably an excuse to add an OAW early to my stash  :)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: rhallinger on November 30, 2012, 09:37:52 PM
Outstanding Rowan!  We appreciate it.  :)  We who are about to spend salute you!  ;) 

Any chance that some Canadian captive markings might just happen to make their way onto one of your sheets (or would that be giving too much away)?   ::) ::)

Regards,

Bob
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Nanks on December 01, 2012, 01:19:40 AM
Definitely will keep an eye out for them Rowan, thanks for all the hard work
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: cgandiaga on December 01, 2012, 01:35:06 AM
Hello Cgandiaga:

Nice Looking Harry Tate, very well done. 

Best

Mark

Thanks, Mark

Regards, Carlos..
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: pepperman42 on December 01, 2012, 03:05:39 AM
Rowan - pave the way!!! This is an exciting time for WWI modelling!!

Steve
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Sellar on December 03, 2012, 01:07:56 PM
I have mine as well. Very heavy & impressive box, unfortunately it will have to be warped up.
On a side note some of the parts look extremely delicate, what is the preferred method of removing say the cockpit sides. Hot knife or saw?
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: kornbeef on December 03, 2012, 05:23:46 PM
My Fokkers have landed! Rather critically in this scale, the cowlings are very nicely done with the bulk of the vents perforated (oddly some are not).  ???
I know somew of the louvres are removed on some options, maybe the non perforated are those?  It's the only logical reason I can think of.


Waiting desperately for mine..... Keith
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: kornbeef on December 03, 2012, 07:48:30 PM
Yes I agree, or perhaps optional panels with both options (remember the SE5a with otional fuselage sides) but I think production cost is the driving factor. More optional parts would push the price up... and also inflate my bulging spares box...most of which will never get used but is kept just in case. ::)
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: mgunns on December 03, 2012, 11:52:28 PM
If you look on thier website and scope out the instructions for each of the variants, each variant has it's own cowling panels unique that variant.  If one is trying to make a variant different than what came in the box, it will be difficult as the pieces to accomplish that task are not in the box.  i don't know if this is what you meant about the panels.  I hope to get mine this week.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: mgunns on December 04, 2012, 05:44:44 AM
Yes, but not all of the vents are perforated, so you're left with either painting the rear black, or very carefully perforating them to match the others.
HMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!  Well, I got my Fokker DVII today, 12/03/12, I ordered it after I ordered my Sopwith Tripe, which I have not yet received.  I imagine that Dave was inundated with orders for the Fokker and put orders for other aircraft on the back burner or something.  I am at work, so I haven't had a chance to fondle the plastic, but; I can't wait to get home.

Until that time

Mark
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: pepperman42 on December 04, 2012, 11:02:16 AM
The infamous DVII louvres and panels confusion that I can never keep straight. When mine arrives (via Sanee Clauz apparently) I will have to look to get this clear in my noggin.

Steve
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Lyle on December 04, 2012, 02:34:59 PM
Hello,
Having taken a real sabbatical from modeling lately, I was glad to see the three get released all at once, and buying the OAW D.VII has gotten my juices running again.  I also got decal sheet #3--nobody has done Thom's D.VII before and the U-10 is a nice one to hopefully see someday.  I am a sucker for the early OAW Fokkers...
   And as far as panels and louvers go, I am fairly certain (but still guessing  :) )there will be resin aftermarket items that will address the REALLY esoteric and one-off versions we've all seen in case the ones in the kit just don't match what we need.
Lyle 
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Trackpad on December 05, 2012, 12:37:38 AM
Mine is still in transit (OAW version), and I'm looking forward to comparing the kit nose area with a very clear photo of the front end of the a/c I'll be modelling. I'm expecting to do some nasal surgery, and with the photo and serial number I'm guardedly confident that I can get it right...maybe...sort of!  ;)
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Chris Johnson on December 05, 2012, 01:15:37 AM
While I'm dropping shameless hints with the family for one (okay, two) of the D.VIIs, I went ahead and ordered the Kagero 3D book in anticipation that I receive the kit(s).

(http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l474/ChrisJohnson56/DVII-Cover-1.jpg)

I don't have any references for the D.VII so if this book is as useful as I found their Dr.I volume, I should be in good shape when building the model.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: pepperman42 on December 05, 2012, 01:52:32 AM
When did the DVII book come out? Gotta get that one too as I found the DR1 book excellent  as well.

Steve
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: petero on December 05, 2012, 05:28:51 AM
I received my copy last week, and it's every bit as good as the DR.I volume.  The two major differences are that it has an expanded text section, and no 3D anaglyphs or glasses.  The CGI artwork is beautiful!

On a related note, I'm fond of the Rampant Bison emblem that's on Pheon sheets #48005 and 72004, Jasta 40 Under Carl Degelow.  I'd sure like to see it in 1/32!  All I would really need is the bison itself, since the Albatros D.VII includes a Jasta 40 scheme.  If someone has a good quality scan of just the bison, I could enlarge it and ALPS print it.

Peter
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: cgandiaga on December 05, 2012, 05:32:13 AM
My Alb and Fok-built DVII landed today... Gotta work on that Tripehound so I can get crackin' on these...

Once more into the breach.. ;D
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Chris Johnson on December 05, 2012, 09:24:30 AM
When did the DVII book come out? Gotta get that one too as I found the DR1 book excellent  as well.

Steve

It came out earlier this year Steve. I picked my copy up online from The Book Depository.

http://www.bookdepository.com/Fokker-DVII-Tomasz-Kowalski/9788362878338

No shipping fees or taxes to pay, so it cost me only $22.36 to the door.

Cheers,

Chris

Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: pepperman42 on December 05, 2012, 12:25:10 PM
Thankyou. Ordered just now.

Steve
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Trackpad on December 05, 2012, 02:52:22 PM
When did the DVII book come out? Gotta get that one too as I found the DR1 book excellent  as well.

Steve

It came out earlier this year Steve. I picked my copy up online from The Book Depository.

http://www.bookdepository.com/Fokker-DVII-Tomasz-Kowalski/9788362878338

No shipping fees or taxes to pay, so it cost me only $22.36 to the door.

Cheers,

Chris

Chris,

Thanks very much for this lead. I  usually don't get too worked up about references now, as I have three or four shelves of them. But this one might help with my OAW DVII, so I've just ordered it from TBD. Excellent price, no taxes or shipping: thanks again!  :D
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Chris Johnson on December 06, 2012, 03:02:41 AM
. . . I  usually don't get too worked up about references now, as I have three or four shelves of them. But this one might help with my OAW DVII, so I've just ordered it from TBD. Excellent price, no taxes or shipping: thanks again!  :D

As I'm a pretty basic aircraft modeller, about all I really want are references that clearly show the rigging of a particular aircraft. Good as WnW instructions are, I find that their rigging diagrams just don't give me enough information in that regard.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: pepperman42 on December 06, 2012, 03:28:30 AM
That is a great price compared to what Ive seen it going for and they dont take the payment out for 21 days in case there is a shipping problem. Im a convert!!

Steve
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: cgandiaga on December 06, 2012, 11:27:19 AM
Well now that you've shot your bolt on rigging you can relax with a DVII and like Mark said - post some Dh2 pics. Any traps or things to watch out for on it?

Steve

Well, here it is, for what it's worth..  :-\



http://s609.photobucket.com/albums/tt173/cgandiaga/?action=view&current=DSC_0019.jpg (http://s609.photobucket.com/albums/tt173/cgandiaga/?action=view&current=DSC_0019.jpg) 



http://s609.photobucket.com/albums/tt173/cgandiaga/?action=view&current=DSC_0027.jpg (http://s609.photobucket.com/albums/tt173/cgandiaga/?action=view&current=DSC_0027.jpg)



http://s609.photobucket.com/albums/tt173/cgandiaga/?action=view&current=DSC_0031.jpg (http://s609.photobucket.com/albums/tt173/cgandiaga/?action=view&current=DSC_0031.jpg)

http://s609.photobucket.com/albums/tt173/cgandiaga/?action=view&current=DSC_0020.jpg (http://s609.photobucket.com/albums/tt173/cgandiaga/?action=view&current=DSC_0020.jpg)

http://s609.photobucket.com/albums/tt173/cgandiaga/?action=view&current=DSC_0021.jpg (http://s609.photobucket.com/albums/tt173/cgandiaga/?action=view&current=DSC_0021.jpg)

http://s609.photobucket.com/albums/tt173/cgandiaga/?action=view&current=DSC_0023.jpg (http://s609.photobucket.com/albums/tt173/cgandiaga/?action=view&current=DSC_0023.jpg)

Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: pepperman42 on December 07, 2012, 12:26:30 PM
Nice work on both kits. The rigging looks great - and very complex.

Steve
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: GAJouette on December 08, 2012, 08:18:56 AM
 Cgandiaga,
Excellent DH-2 my friend. Next to the SPAD's the DH-2 is a life long favorite of mine. Outstanding rigging !
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: rolanddvi on December 09, 2012, 04:59:17 AM
Have received all three Fokkers and the Hannover in the last week (Hannover today!). Great stuff. Now how do I motivate myself to go into work when I have all these great kits to build?

rolanddvi
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: pepperman42 on December 09, 2012, 05:43:47 AM
Got my Fokker built DVII yesterday and for the first time had to pay duty. $5 for the honour of allowing them to stop the parcel and look at it and another further $13 and change in tax. All well at least its here...except my lovely lady friend has hidden it til Christmas - without even a look!!

Steve
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: lcarroll on December 09, 2012, 08:55:59 AM


Steve,
   The "system" makes me *&*$^%)$# furious! Seems to vary day to day at the whim of whoever shows up at work. I complained about paying over $30 Customs and processing on my Bif order (after half a dozen previous orders arriving no charge), then had my Tripe arrive as though it had been mailed from a Canadian business, no charges..........! As I said before, I'd complain but I'm leery of showcasing the issue and having it "go south" on us.
   Can you imagine if you maintained similar non-standards/procedures in your current job or myself in my former vocation?
   There! I feel better now he said having got the latest rant off his quivering little chest!
    Sorry folks, the older one becomes the less tolerant one becomes of mindless bureaucracy, incompetance, and fools!
Cheers none the less
Lance >:( ::) :'(

Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: pepperman42 on December 09, 2012, 10:19:39 AM
The funny thing is all the other WNW were dropped at the front door whether I was home or not. This one no one ever came to the door but I got the card saying no answer so pick up at the P.O.-no other notations. Its only when I got there I was told about the charge. If I did this kind of sloppy stuff there would be bent wings and ramp vehicles lying on their backs like turtles. Its a shame because the delivery time was exceptionally good.

Steve
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: lcarroll on December 09, 2012, 10:25:34 AM
The funny thing is all the other WNW were dropped at the front door whether I was home or not. This one no one ever came to the door but I got the card saying no answer so pick up at the P.O.-no other notations. Its only when I got there I was told about the charge. If I did this kind of sloppy stuff there would be bent wings and ramp vehicles lying on their backs like turtles. Its a shame because the delivery time was exceptionally good.

Steve

Amen to that horrible thought. Now, if Guys like us were running this country...................but I'll stop now!
Cheers,
Lance :-\

























Lance
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: pepperman42 on December 09, 2012, 10:31:21 AM
If we were running the country...hmmm...when everything is sold off to everywhere else do we have a country?....

Steve
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Fokker Ace on December 12, 2012, 03:36:15 PM
I was weak and ordered the OAW. I don't like the way WNW sold out of a couple kits so soon. Luckily I have the W.29 in my stash but I don't want to gamble on the other kits I know I'll want. Poor form if they plan on reissuing the kits and not letting us know after seeing the crazy prices the W.29 is fetching on eBay.
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: pepperman42 on December 13, 2012, 01:01:36 AM
Silly Fokkers.......

Steve
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: RAGIII on December 13, 2012, 01:09:15 AM
Got my Fokker built DVII 2 days ago. One thing that impressed me was the engineering of the forward cabane strut arrangement, and of course the whole kit in general. The other was the sheer weight of the kit in the box!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: pepperman42 on December 13, 2012, 01:10:54 AM
...rrrr cu'mon Christmas........

Steve
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Whiteknuckles on December 15, 2012, 02:47:58 PM

...rrrr cu'mon Christmas........

Steve

10 days to go Steve ;D.....and I expect your build log to be up and started that night (when I get home from dayshift on the fire truck!)

Andrew ;)
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Cirrus on December 15, 2012, 07:23:03 PM
My three DVIIs and a Tripe are at present resting in the hands of our beloved Parcel Force (I think) while they calculate how much ransom money to demand.

A Fok EIII and a DH-2 that was ordered in October arrived in the UK, but was sent back to NZ by the illustrious, above mentioned company for no apparent reason. Thanks to Dave at Wingnuts, they were speedily posted back and actually arrived at my door, some months after placing the order. I bet they have more air miles to their credit than any other kits in the world.

So I sit here, apprehensively awaiting my DVIIs and hoping that PF doesn't throw a fit and send them somewhere else like South America, perhaps?   

Cirrus
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Dekenba on December 15, 2012, 07:26:28 PM
I ordered a job lot from WNW, as I got fed up with paying £8 extra for every single kit. Better to spread the £8 over half a dozen kits.

So I await Parcelfarce's invoice, which will undoubtedly arrive - I think Customs have earmarked incoming WNW kits for 20% VAT in an effort to reduce the national debt.
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Epeeman on December 15, 2012, 10:32:24 PM
I'm glad I've read these last couple of posts, because I'm also in the UK and am still awaiting my WNW order (Fokker DVII and SE5a) which I ordered about three weeks ago. 

My last WNW order (back in March) arrived within 10 days delivered by UPS with no additional charges to pay.  I'm therefore finding this order a bit frustrating!  Obviously seems there must be form of backlog with Parcelforce on this occasion with all the other Christmas delivery rush.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: pepperman42 on December 16, 2012, 08:37:44 AM
Andrew...Im not sure if Im going to just flood my waffle with maple syrup or have a scoop of ice cream with it but a waffle it will be on whether I keep going on the Pup or clear the decks for the DVII...sorry you have to work Christmas day. Im actually off. Back to YYZ on the 26th.

Steve
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Cirrus on December 21, 2012, 06:52:27 AM
Santa, was very good to me this year and very largely due to the efforts of Dave of WNW. The DH-2 and the Fok. EIII are awaiting attention and I am now the proud owner of the DVII range and a Tripe, which were delivered today in good time.  Just goes to show what Parcel Force can do when they pay attention.

The future is golden for WW1 aviation enthusiasts..thanks to WNW.

Cirrus
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: The6uest on December 27, 2012, 04:08:49 AM
It came out earlier this year Steve. I picked my copy up online from The Book Depository.

http://www.bookdepository.com/Fokker-DVII-Tomasz-Kowalski/9788362878338

No shipping fees or taxes to pay, so it cost me only $22.36 to the door.

Cheers,

Chris
Thanks Chris!  I ordered one when I saw your post and received it the day before Christmas.  I must say it is very nice with a lot of detailed computer generated 3D images! :) 
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: lcarroll on December 27, 2012, 06:20:42 AM
Got my Fokker built DVII yesterday and for the first time had to pay duty. $5 for the honour of allowing them to stop the parcel and look at it and another further $13 and change in tax. All well at least its here...except my lovely lady friend has hidden it til Christmas - without even a look!!

Steve

  Just a quick update on the state of Customs Charges applied to WNW Orders by Canadian Border Services for my fellow Canadian Members:

Up until Oct 2012 - approx. one half dozen orders, no charges;
Oct 2012 - charged over $30 on an F2b Kit worth $79 US:
Nov 2012 - Sopwith Tripe arrives...no charges; and
late Dec. 4 Kits and one Sheet of WNW Decals totalling well over $300 value arrive; SWMBO is charged $21 Customs Fee. Good thing they didn't apply the F2b "formula"!
No rhyme nor reason to all of this; given the pattern above my next order should be Duty Free, .................or not?!?
Cheers,
Lance >:(
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Des on December 27, 2012, 06:38:06 AM
It sounds like you guys in Canada are heading the same way as the guys in the UK with their crazy parcelfarce, damn ridiculous having to pay tax on items which are market as a gift. There has been talk recently of our government (Australia) thinking about charging GST (Goods and Services Tax) on all imported items, at the moment any imports valued under $1000 come in tax free. The GST is rated at 10% so that won't be too bad, but the government number crunchers say it would cost more to implement the charges then what they would make out of it, and it will take another year for them to do a full study to see if it is worthwhile, so we have a bit of breathing space before there will be any changes, if any.

Des.
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: hawker on December 28, 2012, 07:45:30 PM
The Governments of all our countries seem to think that they can tax their way out of the recession But to meddle with things like taxing Kits is just plain crazy,any way I thought that they didn't know the difference between kits and toys, and most of the people who run our government departments should be learning joined-up writing at their local jobcentre
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: gcn on December 28, 2012, 09:51:03 PM
I have no problem paying the tax if its due, I'm not Amazon or Vodafone. I have to pay the tax and duty indirectly if I buy anything from Hannants so why shouldn't I in this case, and although they are marked as gifts they're not because I've paid for them.

I do believe the threshold is set too low and £100 would be a more reasonable limit. The Parcelforce charge is an annoying addition to the cost but I can understand why they apply it as they've paid the import costs on my behalf.

For a UK purchase I'd factor in a 4 week wait especially at this time of the year.

Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Whiteknuckles on December 30, 2012, 08:58:15 PM
It sounds like you guys in Canada are heading the same way as the guys in the UK with their crazy parcelfarce, damn ridiculous having to pay tax on items which are market as a gift. There has been talk recently of our government (Australia) thinking about charging GST (Goods and Services Tax) on all imported items, at the moment any imports valued under $1000 come in tax free. The GST is rated at 10% so that won't be too bad, but the government number crunchers say it would cost more to implement the charges then what they would make out of it, and it will take another year for them to do a full study to see if it is worthwhile, so we have a bit of breathing space before there will be any changes, if any.

Des.

As I understand it Des this will be the third or fourth study/investigation/inquiry about the $1000 exemption.... Don't see it changing anytime soon unless Gerry Harvey and his mates really grab the Pollies attention....

Andrew

P.S. back on topic - I want a Fokker!! As a matter of interest, my Uncle worked on the F27 project as a draughtsman - not WW1 I know :)
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: mike in calif on December 31, 2012, 03:35:38 PM
My SWMBO asked what I wanted for Christmas, and I answered truthfully: a DVII; I added one to the list along with a decal sheet. I got a bit of model fund as a present, and using Daves formula bought anouther 2 DVII, a DH9a, and another tripe, all for 150.00US.
 I think I'll hold off on buying anymore for a bit.....
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: The6uest on January 01, 2013, 12:21:12 AM
[...]and using Daves formula bought anouther 2 DVII, a DH9a, and another tripe, all for 150.00US.
 I think I'll hold off on buying anymore for a bit.....
Wait, what is this formula that you speak of? 
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: lcarroll on January 01, 2013, 12:44:36 AM
[...]and using Daves formula bought anouther 2 DVII, a DH9a, and another tripe, all for 150.00US.
 I think I'll hold off on buying anymore for a bit.....
Wait, what is this formula that you speak of?

Dave's formula sounds like something I too would like to know about.........4 WNW Kits for $150 US is a real coup.
Out with it!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: rhallinger on January 01, 2013, 02:07:14 AM
I seem to recall that Dave's formula was a bit of a ruse to throw SWMBO off the trail regarding the actual cost of our hobby. ;D  Naturally, many of our wives are under the impression that WNW kits cost about $30-$40 each, with FREE shipping all the way from NZ! ;) ::)  That is what they cost, isn't it? ;)

If I am mistaken, and there is actually a source at $35 each, by all means please enlighten us. ;D

Regards,

Bob
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Dekenba on January 01, 2013, 02:12:36 AM
Dave's formula depends entirely for its successful operation for a complete separation between invoices and SWMBO's.
 
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: uncletony on January 01, 2013, 02:38:24 AM
Dave's formula depends entirely for its successful operation for a complete separation between invoices and SWMBO's.

snicker  ;D
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: lcarroll on January 01, 2013, 02:55:43 AM
Wish I had that luxury; my SWMBO is a Banker, Ouch!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: kornbeef on January 01, 2013, 05:03:11 AM
I've found that honesty is the best  proceedure with SWMBO. This applies of course only if caught red handed within the *two week* rule.  :o


Keith
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: mike in calif on January 01, 2013, 07:32:59 AM
Mr Hallinger has it right lads. In another thread Dave illustrated a very complex formula that showed some WNW kits coming in substantially lower than one might realistically expect; this may be evidence of how the Fed works. In using the said formula, dollars("Bernankes") are lowered by two Geithners for each kit ordered, divided by a factor of PC-10 for each British kit ordered.
   One easily sees then how my Tripe, 2 DVIIs, and DH9a were only 150.00 Bernankes; I'm not sure of the Aus. exchange rate.
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Dekenba on January 01, 2013, 09:45:35 PM
It must be more difficult for you Americans, with WNW's pricing in US$'s, the apply any "fiddle factors" to your pricing.

For us in the UK, at least we can attempt to apply the Sterling conversion constant, an equation unique to WNW's products, where Sterling gains appreciably.

In Wales, we can also apply the Welsh pound - or Cymru bunnoedd - conversion to further stretch spending power.

At the moment the Welsh pound is always stronger than the English pound........
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: mike in calif on January 02, 2013, 04:33:42 AM
Dean, you're saying it is better, pound -for-pound, to order from Wales?
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: mike in calif on January 02, 2013, 04:37:24 AM
There it is lads, Dr Daves model buying formula:
Its the number you first thought of, divided by the number of WNW kits you simply must have, multiplied by the number of WNW kits available to you, plus, if applicable, a Hansa Brandenburg multiplier of 2.2 for real terms accruals, or in the case of the LVG, a 1.95 factor.
 
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: Dekenba on January 02, 2013, 05:58:27 AM
Dean, you're saying it is better, pound -for-pound, to order from Wales?

As far as SWMBO is concerned, yes.

Meanwhile - back in the real world, where 1+1=2, the Welsh pound does not actually exist!
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: kornbeef on January 02, 2013, 12:19:38 PM
Dean, you're saying it is better, pound -for-pound, to order from Wales?

As far as SWMBO is concerned, yes.

Meanwhile - back in the real world, where 1+1=2, the Welsh pound does not actually exist!
YET! ;D
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: mike in calif on January 02, 2013, 03:08:06 PM
Actually, I hve no problems with SWMBO as far as modelling purchases go. She understands it is MY hobby, and if it makes me happy, ( and home) she is OK with that. I have an ex-wife that had a different attitude, and good riddance!
Title: Re: Release the FOKKERS!!!!
Post by: mgunns on January 03, 2013, 06:51:20 AM
I have to be a little careful with SWMBO as long as I keep her informed of my spending, she is alright with it.  She is a keeper and bought me the Hannover for Christmas past, last year she got me a RODEN Nie.24 the year before that it was a Hansa Brandendberg and a NINE AK the year before that it was the LVG.  She is a sweetheart.  This year, I have gone nuts and she understands it.  I just received my Eindecker.  It looked like an Elephant stepped on the box, but; haply, the contents are in great shape.  I haven't had the opportunity to fondle the plastic yet, but a perfunctory glance indicates all is well inside. 

Until that time

Mark