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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: kornbeef on November 17, 2012, 10:03:48 PM

Title: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: kornbeef on November 17, 2012, 10:03:48 PM
I don't wish to distract form the other great builds here and I meant to post progress pics as I worked but never took any. Camera and time constraints.

So now she isnt as built as the pics indicate. Wings, rudder and cowl are all dry fitted.

My findings... There are a few points I thought WNW could have handled better but overall it's an impressive feat of egineering, tightly fitted engineering in places so be warned. WNW tolerances apply.

Downs are few: detail on the fuel control panel seems soft. I would have prefered the lower mount for the rudder bar assembly to be seperate from the front panel. The compass could have been moulded as a seperate item, I know it doesnt affect this build but the earlier E.III's need it removed from the wing risking damage to the detail nearby.
Basically thats the downers done.

Uppers: Some wonderfully thought out solutions to this planes eccentricities.

So a brief buld blog. All pretty much OOB so far apart from cutting the lower rudderbar mountings away from the floor and thinning them, adding a couple of pipes that are hardly visible. building up the guage on the fuelcontrol panel and replacing the hand fuel pressure pump pipe with copper wire. I added a map folder from a spare from some PE and have a few other small mods planned, Seatbelts and such have yet to be done.

The tail assembly is really femer, I've bent it twice while handling, I thing brass rod strengthenig is going to be a must here... For me at least.

Anyway, pics.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/Eindecker/EIN11.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/Eindecker/EIN10.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/Eindecker/EIN08.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/Eindecker/EIN07.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/Eindecker/EIN06.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/Eindecker/EIN05.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/Eindecker/EIN04.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/Eindecker/EIN03.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/Eindecker/EIN02.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d190/kornbeef/Eindecker/EIN01.jpg)

Yes theres a pushrod and rocker asembly adrift, I put it somewhere*coughs* safe... along with the small rod under the cockpit side that snapped off ..
 :|  :|  :|

As always comments, advice etc are always welcome

Keith
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: rhallinger on November 17, 2012, 10:28:10 PM
Okay.  All of the upright shots look like a real 1:1 machine in an airpark somewhere.  Nuff said.  Great job!  I like!   ;D  Hope mine turns out as well.  ;)

Regards,

Bob
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: Chris Johnson on November 17, 2012, 11:24:15 PM
Man, you nailed that natural metal effect! I don't think I've ever seen it done better. Secondly, but no less impressive, is your weathering technique. Very, very realistic looking. Superb workmanship.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: lcarroll on November 18, 2012, 12:34:03 AM
   Kornbeef exposed as a fraud!!!!!
   He used a real Fokker E III to represent a scale model to the dismay of all his (former) fans...................but wait, it's the well known blackened oak stump in the photos for sure. Saved and reinstated to his highly respected status by his peers!
   Really Keith, what a beauty. Best "sworl" I've ever seen and the weathering/wear is absolutely perfect IMHO. And she's not even finished. What was the method for the pattern on the cowling?
  Very nice work indeed, you've really "Aced" this one"!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: kornbeef on November 18, 2012, 01:08:17 AM
Thanks guys.

LoL Lance.... nice.

The sworls are simple, copied from a suggestion here in a way. I primed the surface in mid/dark grey. painted the swirls in thinned Citadel Mithril silver (which is very bright) then after it dried coated it with Klear before drybrushing Citadel Runefang Steel over it (this is one of Citadels new layer paints which arent as opaque as their base paints.) The Runefang steel is a darker tone so dulls the mithril silver down while filling in the grey areas, you can vary how much by the amount of drybrushing done. Another nice side effect is it picks out any edges and details..and dodgy bits too.

Thanks for the poss feedback guys.
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: pepperman42 on November 18, 2012, 02:02:08 AM
Excellent work and the sworl technique is a keeper!!!!

Steve
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: Fokker boy on November 18, 2012, 02:56:27 AM
Once again, very nice work. It seems doubtful mine will turn out as well, but I'll try.
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: coyotemagic on November 18, 2012, 04:50:13 AM
   Kornbeef exposed as a fraud!!!!!
   He used a real Fokker E III to represent a scale model to the dismay of all his (former) fans...................but wait, it's the well known blackened oak stump in the photos for sure. Saved and reinstated to his highly respected status by his peers!
   Really Keith, what a beauty. Best "sworl" I've ever seen and the weathering/wear is absolutely perfect IMHO. And she's not even finished. What was the method for the pattern on the cowling?
  Very nice work indeed, you've really "Aced" this one"!
Cheers,
Lance
I examined the photos closely, Lance, and I see no evidence of a stump of any sort.  Looks more like cracked and patched asphalt.  What I don't understand is why the curator would allow Keith to flip the plane over on it's back.
Brilliant job, Keith, even if it isn't yours.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: WarrenD on November 18, 2012, 05:06:13 AM
I really do like your treatment of the metal, sworls, etc. Nice!

Warren
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: LindsayT on November 18, 2012, 06:36:34 AM
It's the weathering and grime that do it for me. Love it!

LT
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: Edo on November 19, 2012, 04:02:10 PM
Hey Keith!
This is a beauty!
As other had said the swirls are prefect!
And the grime.... Just beautiful!
How did you do that?
Thank you, ciao
Edo
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: kornbeef on November 20, 2012, 10:54:55 AM
Hi Edo, thanks my old friend.
The grime is a mix of Lifecolor oil Tensochrome and Citadel Devlan Mud, Both are washes, brownish grey, perfect for this kind of thing. I use the Devlan Mud all over, it seems to tie things together nicely.

Keith
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: Jamo on November 20, 2012, 06:58:51 PM
Echo what the others have said about the cowling and metal panels - your finish is fantastic Keith. Definitely something to learn from.
Thanks for taking the time to share your build with us
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: RAGIII on November 21, 2012, 12:43:54 AM
Keith,
Love your build! great paint work and weathering!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: Whiteknuckles on November 23, 2012, 02:34:30 PM
Excellent weathering Keith, she may not be completely finished yet but she looks a treat!!

Andrew
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: rhallinger on November 24, 2012, 02:22:41 AM
Naahh.  I still say Keith used a real full-size E.III and modeled an enlarged driveway, grass and shrubbery just to fool us.  ;D  Just can't figure out how he got the durned thing flipped over on its back for that inverted shot.  ::) 

Regards,

Bob
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: gcn on November 24, 2012, 08:15:47 AM
Keith I think you have that cowling nailed.

The rest of the build is not too shabby either, excellent work.
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: kornbeef on November 24, 2012, 10:57:05 AM
Hoping to spend sometime on the undercarriage rigging this weekend, old eyes need the daylight.  I've been playing with the DH" in the meantime.

Thanks for the fantastic comments guys. Mucho appreciato.

K
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: Fokker boy on November 24, 2012, 12:39:13 PM
Ought to look great when finished, and I'll look forward to it.
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: GAJouette on November 24, 2012, 02:43:28 PM
  Keith,
Outstanding my old friend. Love those swirls and weathering. Counting down to your next awesome update,never fails to impress.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: ggl1269 on November 24, 2012, 07:49:45 PM
Looks great........ ;)
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: GAJouette on December 14, 2012, 09:22:22 AM
  Keith,
How's that wonderful Fokker E.III progressing my old friend.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette

Merry Christmas to You and Yours
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: mgunns on December 15, 2012, 06:56:41 AM
Hello Keith:

Once again your work just inspires me.  Your weathering, texturing and metal swirling is outstanding to say the least.  Outstanding comes to mind.  I recently ordered the early version of this and will be once again looking to yours for ideas and inspiration.

Thanks

Mark
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: xmald on December 15, 2012, 09:49:31 PM
Stunning mate your swirls are beautiful. The way you weathered the model is superb. At first few glances I thought it was a full scale replica!!!
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: Epeeman on December 15, 2012, 10:37:30 PM
Jaw drops in amazement!

What stunning work - well done mate!

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: uncletony on December 21, 2012, 11:58:44 PM
Bravo Keith, the cowling finish is astonishing, I love the contrast between the that and the propeller finish, all materials are totally believable, amazing.
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: kornbeef on December 22, 2012, 01:24:49 AM
Thanks Guys, at the moment all progress on this and other builds are halted while I do my first D.VII build which is well in progress. Once I get enogh time I'll do a blog and make some pointer people should be aware of.

Keith
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: rhallinger on December 22, 2012, 02:23:51 AM
Keith:

Glad to hear you'll be blazing the trail for the rest of us on the D.VII.  Lots of folks will be looking forward to that build blog!  :D

Looked to me like your E.III was pretty well done in any event.  As you know, I am still not convinced it is the WNW kit---looks like the real bird to me!  ;)

Regards,

Bob 
Title: Re: WNW's E.III (duellist version) Kornbeef
Post by: Fokker boy on December 24, 2012, 07:49:03 AM
Thanks Guys, at the moment all progress on this and other builds are halted while I do my first D.VII build which is well in progress. Once I get enogh time I'll do a blog and make some pointer people should be aware of.

Keith

I've considered the same for the E.II, as there are several issues that I encountered that could easily be avoided, if one were aware of them to begin with.