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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Softscience on November 18, 2019, 02:06:24 PM
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My skills have been feeling a little rusty lately, and I don't feel quite ready for any of the big and expensive kits. While fooling around with the WNW ships camel, I spent most of my efforts on Eduard's parasol fokker.
The kit builds very much like the F.I I completed a few years ago and had so much fun with. The individual cockpit components have been fiddly (a lot of thin fragile sticks) and the rudder bar assembly shot off into deep space at some point.nevertheless, as a complete assembly things look fine to my eye.
Still, Eduard's engineering on their WWI kits is not up to the same standard of buildabilty as their fancier WWII and modern stuff.
(https://i.postimg.cc/GhXfGMHX/IMG-20191117-194430611-HDR.jpg)
Fuselage halves fit is only okay.
(https://i.postimg.cc/fTzF34T3/IMG-20191117-224515419-HDR.jpg)
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You're getting good building experience here. Your confidence in building should be on the increase - nice job.
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Hi!
Good work until now.
Next time "wash" with Clear doped Linen the inside lozenge. In reality it was the inside of the printed lozenge fabric, so little of the lozenge print was visible inside.
The division between the horizontal tail surfaces and the fuselage was clearly marked in the D.VIII, so don't use putty to cover!
Hope useful,
Roberto
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This is a good start: with a few simpler kits your skill level should increase and with it your confidence so that you will feel better about tackling more complex kits.
Stephen.
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This is a good start: with a few simpler kits your skill level should increase and with it your confidence so that you will feel better about tackling more complex kits.
Stephen.
I agree with Stephen 100% Your EV is moving along nicely!
RAGIII
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Nice!
I am more or less where you are now also. Trying to gain experience, skills and find the courage to tackle a WNW kit. :)
Still, Eduard's engineering on their WWI kits is not up to the same standard of buildabilty as their fancier WWII and modern stuff.
Maybe true, but still very nice kits. Fairly accurate, but not always easy to build. But, but...they have them! :)
Robin
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I am more or less where you are now also. Trying to gain experience, skills and find the courage to tackle a WNW kit. :)
Maybe true, but still very nice kits. Fairly accurate, but not always easy to build. But, but...they have them! :)
Robin
True, and we beggars can't be choosers. It's pretty much Eduard and Roden in this scale. How did we get to such a sad state?
But moaning asside, I've got the fuselage of the fokker more or less complete. I'm debating if I should try fitting the struts before painting. On the one hand, they may be obtrusive (Im doing the black and yellow stripes finish) but on the other things may get messy trying to fit them once paint is involved. The attachment points for the long struts are a bit nebulous.
Much to ponder.
(https://i.postimg.cc/SxDJ5LdD/IMG-20191119-213415642-HDR.jpg)
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Looks like your building a nice model there. You'll be ready to tackle that Ships Camel in no time at all. Nice thing about the Eduard WWI stuff is they have a bunch of nice planes and they really look pretty decent and I have seen them built into real beauties. Looking forward to seeing your progress on both kits.
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Things are getting pretty yellow propeller in here. Accurate or not, u wanted a more golden color, so I added some orange to my yellow. I like how it looks. Tomorrow I mask and paint the wasp stripes.
(https://i.postimg.cc/hGWkh0Xr/IMG-20191121-215533697.jpg)
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Very nice work. The most important of building a kit is to have fun....and it seem you have fun.
Bye,
Manni
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I like that yellow,it's one of those colours that can be a bugger to get the hue and coverage you're trying to achieve.
Cheers,
Dave.
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Looking great! You are really making progress and seem to be enjoying this one!
RAGIII
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I agree with Dave - getting the correct hue is difficult. The black stripes will tone it down a bit though I am sure.
Stephen.
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AT LAST! I got the stupid stripes done on this thing. They're not perfect. Somehow tiny errors in measurement get compounded with high contrast colors. But even in an imperfect state, I like how they look.
I surprised that my primer did not stop the paint from peeling off of the metal parts. That is going to be a bear to retouch :(
(https://i.postimg.cc/3J2PXVZy/IMG-20191128-215528663-HDR.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/bw843g6m/IMG-20191128-215554734-HDR.jpg)
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for those of you planning on doing this scheme; in 1/48 scale, the yellow stripes are 8.5 mm wide and the black stripes are 7.35 mm wide.
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Looks awesome! I do Love Stripey Aircraft!
RAGIII
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Thanks!
A few more details.
(https://i.postimg.cc/1zbwnwDS/IMG-20191130-234559816.jpg)
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Looks really good already and a very nice yellow. :)
Robin
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Always like this scheme , nice job so far :)
Terri
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Looking great. The tripod struts look good in place. Shouldn't be long before it is a Monoplane 8)
RAGIII
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This type I have already build, but I have another kit of it in my stash.
Doing such colorful bird is a good idea, so thanks for showing!
What is your plan regarding the wing colors? I can remember some very interesting discussions :)
Cheers,
Frank
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Wing color? Gosh, I haven't a clue. I'm going to go with an olive green as suggested by Eduard. Maybe ill add brown streaking. I honestly haven't a clue what the wings of these things looked like.
I got pretty ticked me off at the dumb MGs on this kit. The basic parts feel pretty crude, and all the detail parts for them feel like and afterthought. They all fit somewhat ambiguously and the whole construction is so fragile that I'm afraid to look at it. Add to that the fact that all my handling of the model is making the paint look funny, and I'm pretty pissed at the model for being needlessly difficult, but mostly at myself for being unable to produce the neat and crisp work I strive for.
Anyhow, today I decided I can live with the wonky MGs, especially since they'll be mostly covered by the wing.
(https://i.postimg.cc/L58CGB0L/IMG-20191204-205600363-HDR.jpg)
The wing fits okay, but I had to dig some pretty wide holes for the prismatic cabane struts.to sit right. Maybe I did something wrong but everything was at an angle. The rear strut snapped (crap brittle Eduard plastic!) But I got it back together. I hope some light sanding will hide the repair. Yes I should have done it before gluing it back on, but stress makes me rush to unmake my unsightly mistakes.
Dang. Looking at this on high resolution makes it look more thought than it does to my eye.
(https://i.postimg.cc/gjtSpXf5/IMG-20191204-222849073-HDR.jpg)
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I feel your pain!
Attaching the MG's isn't something Eduard gives much thought...if any. Decent pins and holes for the struts....same.
Handling amodel becomes increasingly difficult when you progress. Something I struggle with also. :(
But...it still looks good! :)
Robin
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I feel your pain!
Attaching the MG's isn't something Eduard gives much thought...if any. Decent pins and holes for the struts....same.
Handling amodel becomes increasingly difficult when you progress. Something I struggle with also. :(
But...it still looks good! :)
Robin
Thanks, Robin. I'm glad I'm not the only one.
I do have the worst super-power though - the skin oils in my hands can melt paint ??? ::) :-\ :'(
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It's a good looking model you have there! Scuffing the paint is a problem and one possible solution is to put a clear coat on as soon s you can after painting.
/Fredrik
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Great progress on mounting the wing! It does take some care in handling but once everything is dry the wing should stay attached with no issues!
RAGIII
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Yup we all have been there and can still be an issue for some of us including myself in that group . Nothing wrong with your build so far , she is looking most excellent so far . :)
Terri
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Heya guys,
I continue my fight with the Fokker. I have finished the sticks and strings work, for the most part. I'm not 100% happy with how it went, but at this point the best I can hope for is that I learned from my mistakes, and that I'll do better on my next build (I'll probably forget the lessons learned, by then :D ). The next step will be to add decals and the tail. Then I can finish out the last of the control line rigging.
(https://i.postimg.cc/sDMC4yHy/IMG-20191209-194450641-HDR.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/KcqyT4NJ/IMG-20191209-224728604-HDR.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/nh78N2tP/IMG-20191209-224718315-HDR.jpg)
I've been screwing around with the top wing, too. It isn't clear whether or not it had a solid color or some fokker streaking. And if so, then what kind. I did this with some acrylics. I'm not sure if I like it. I might tone it down with a bit more counter-streaking with olive drab, or just overpaint it entirely. Your opinions?
(https://i.postimg.cc/g0W9phzk/IMG-20191209-224640678-HDR.jpg)
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I like the streaking. :)
I'm not 100% happy with how it went, but at this point the best I can hope for is that I learned from my mistakes, and that I'll do better on my next build (I'll probably forget the lessons learned, by then :D
That's how I feel...probably how we all feel.
Never 100% happy about it, always trying to do better next time...and waiting for the next silly mistake. :)
Robin
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Hi!
In my knowledge no streaking camo on the wing of the E.V/D.VIII.
Solid Olive green is the color. Few years ago new researches put light on a two tone camo, you may
find in internet. Brown and green upper, blue and violet under.
I never saw an original photo of your D.VIII, so I can't say who's right or wrong.
If I will build your Fokker, I will follow Eduard instructions, so solid Olive green on wing.
My two cents,
Roberto
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Go with what makes you happy , nice job so far , looks good with the wing on .
Terri
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I've toned down the upper wing streaking.
Some of the decals are ow on, too.
(https://i.postimg.cc/9FF2HhQw/IMG-20191211-212304385.jpg)
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Looks even better. :)
Robin
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Your wing looks excellent. Your little Fokker is really looking great all around!
RAGIII