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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Mike Norris (UK) on July 20, 2019, 06:53:44 AM
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Hi all,
I thought this time around I'd have a crack at building a 1:32 scale model of the Sopwith 'Swallow' monoplane prototype of 1918.
In June 1918, the Sopwith Aviation Company designed an unarmed parasol monoplane, based on the Sopwith ‘Camel’. The aircraft was known the Sopwith Monoplane No.1, but was also known as the Sopwith ‘Scooter’ (to scoot was to move around fast). The aircraft was built for the personal use of the ‘Sopwith’ test pilot Harry Hawker and was based on the their current Sopwith ‘Camel’, but with a single wing mounted just above the fuselage, but with limited space between the fuselage and the underside of the wing. The wing was not supported by the then conventional struts and instead was braced by RAF streamlined bracing wires, all of which were attached to the lower fuselage and a pyramid shaped strut assembly above the wing. The ‘Scooter’ was powered by a single 130 hp (97 kW) ‘Clerget’ 9B rotary engine. The ‘Scooter’ was used as a runabout and aerobatic aircraft by Harry Hawker and was able to demonstrate excellent maneuverability. Eventually it was used as the basis for a fighter design, originally known as the Monoplane No.2, and later named the Sopwith ‘Swallow’.
Like the ‘Scooter’, the ‘Swallow’ used the fuselage of a ‘Camel’, but it had a larger, slightly swept wing of greater wingspan and area. Like the ‘Scooter’ the wing was mounted above the fuselage, but higher, to allow the pilot to access the two synchronized Vickers machine guns, which were fitted further apart than normal, again to give the pilot better forward visibility. For the same reason the ‘hump’ in the forward cockpit decking (hence the name ‘Camel’) was not used. The engine was also changed to that of a 110 hp (82 kW) ‘Le Rhône’ engine. Also the traditional oval shaped access panels on each side of the forward fuselage were omitted. Twelve strengthening ribs were fitted across the centre section on the upper surface of the wing.
The ‘Swallow’ made its maiden flight in October 1918, and was delivered to RAF Martlesham Heath on 28 October 1918 for official testing. One considered role for the ‘Swallow’ was as a shipboard fighter. Engine problems delayed testing of the ‘Swallow’, but even when the engine problems were resolved, the ‘Swallow’ proved to have a lower overall performance than the then ‘Le Rhône’ engine powered ‘Sopwith’ ‘Camel’. Testing of the ‘Swallow’ continued after the cessation of hostilities but by May 1919 all interest in the ‘Swallow’ was dropped. The fate of the ‘Swallow’ is not known, but presumably it was scrapped.
However the original ‘Scooter’ remained in use, and was given the civil registration K-135 and later to G-EACZ. In 1921, Harry Hawker purchased and flew the ‘Scooter’. Harry Hawker died on the 12th July 1921 in a flying accident at Hendon, after which the ‘Scooter’ was put into storage. It was refurbished in 1925 and was used for aerobatic displays and for racing until 1927 when it was scrapped.
Some time back I purchased the only 1:32 scale conversion set available, which is a resin set intended for the Hobby Craft/Academy Sopwith Camel F.1 kit.
However, that model kit left a lot to be desired, as does the resin set.
Therefore I'm going to try converting the 'Wingnut Wings' 'Clerget' Camel kit.
I know it's an expensive kit to convert but as I'd already had to rob the kit for another project, I thought I might as well use it.
It may be just the resin conversion set I received, but it has many problems. The wing halves are warped, the front cockpit decking (according to the instructions) is 7 mm too short in length, the upper support wing struts are not tb used, only as guides for making your own, and there's more flash and surface 'blow holes' the I care to mention.
Anyway it'll be another challenge I guess.
Here's a few shots to start off with,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/swallow1.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/swallow2.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/swallow3.jpg)
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Doesn't look like too difficult a conversion.
This will be interesting.
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Looks like a very interesting conversion (lots of prep work with that resin), will look like a great addition to your collection.
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Hi Mike
The Sopwith Swallow is one of those oddball creations that have always appealed to me so I am following your build with much interest. I used to have a limited run Swallow kit in 48th scale but did not make it. The subject in 1/32 scale has a lot of appeal.
That resin set looks terrible! I can see why you are going down the scratchbuilt/ conversion route with this project.
We look forward to seeing your build progress on this beauty and I'm sure the guys at Wingnuts will be fascinated to see what can be achieved with their kits.
cheers
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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My example of this conversion is fortunately much better than yours,just a few pinholes.I think the rear cowling panel is shorter than standard,I just replaced part of the kit one with the resin item after cutting and sanding the remainder to the same profile as the linen covered remaining fuselage.Hot water should straighten that wing OK.You could contact Dave Lockhead,he may have some better wings with less pinholes left.
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Should be a great looking bird when complete! I am sure you will overcome the challenges with the casting!
RAGIII
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Mike,
Thanks for taking this one on. I look forward to an entertaining build report.
Kevin
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Thanks - yes I think a lot of filling, sanding, scratch building struts etc is coming my way
Mike
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Looks like a great project. I converted an Eduard Camel to a Swallow in 1/48 a few years back. It's a nice looking design.
Drew
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I will follow with great interest, because I like to convert a Eduard 1/48 Camel with the help of the conversion kit by Spin models.
The seat/parts of the cockpit have to be moved backwards compared to the Camel.
Cheers,
Frank
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Hi Frank,
That's a good point that I'd not noticed, although I'm still working on the resin bits.
Here's a rough comparison to illustrate your point.
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/camel-swallow.jpg)
I've noticed already that there are no oval access panels in the sides of the forward fuselage.
The twin Vickers machine guns are also fitted wider apart than normal, to allow better forward vision for the pilot.
I have the 1998 Windsock International Vol. 14, No.4 July/August issue, which has the most information I've been able to find so far.
Drop me a line if there's any data I can help you with,
Mike
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Your new resin cockpit decking will force you to move the seat backwards ;)
The scooter has a smaller distance between wing and fuselage (no weapons), the Swallow needs this space for the Vickers.
With the backwards moved seat the pilot has better view with the deeper top wing, and there is more space inside the fuselage to put the Vickers deeper, so there is no need for the Camel humps.
And yes, this Windsock International Vol. 14, No.4 is also my source of inspiration.
My Spin conversion set do not contain decals, which is another problem.
Cheers,
Frank
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Hi Frank,
Yes there's a lot of good information in the Windsock file.
As for the decals - I've contacted 'Decision Height Decals' here in the UK and passed on all of the information for the Swallow's decals.
Hopefully he can create them for me in 1:32 scale.
Maybe you could email him also to see if the same set can be made in the scale you need.
I'll PM you with the email address,
Mike
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Frank, I got my 1/48 set from the old Copper State Models. You might email them to see if they have any old stock.
Drew
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Hi Drew,
Have you posted your swallow build - I'd be interested to see it,
Mike
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Hi Mike,
I did, although it doesn't come up in a search:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=3224.msg54091#msg54091
The photos are on Photobucket, which I left, and so I don't know if they are still visible to everyone. I can see them. Let me know if you can't.
Drew
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Hi Drew,
Thanks - that's a really impressive conversion, especially in 1:48 scale.
The seat position nearly caught me out until Frank pointed it out.
Mike
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Very informative thread - like it!
Thanks,
Frank
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Hi all,
Well I've made a start on the resin wing assembly.
Needless to say it required filling and sanding.
I also strengthened the wing to wing joint, which is a basic 'butt' joint, with no strength.
I drilled two 1.0 mm diameter holes into the wing root of both wing halves and inserted 1 mm brass rod, held with CA.
The wings halves were then joined using two part epoxy adhesive.
I cut the aileron from the wing and profiled the leading edges.
The wing was drilled in three position for each aileron and 0.8 mm brass rods inserted with CA adhesive.
Corresponding holes were then drilled into the aileron leading edges.
Aileron control horns were made from spare photo etch and secured in slot cut into the aileron leading edges.
Each horn has a 0.3 mm diameter hole at each end for rigging.
Upper surface strengthening ribs, removed during sanding, were replaced with strips of 0.2 mm thick plastic card.
I filled the pre-moulded rigging points as they do not align vertically through the wing. These will be drilled later.
I still need to re-profile the forward edge of the wing cut-out above the cockpit, which needs to be straighter.
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/resin8.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/resin9.jpg)
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Mike,
A brave and interesting conversion for sure. I agree with your choice of the Wingnut Wings Camel as the foundation of this build, the Special Hobby Kit doesn't come close. I hope to do a "Comic" Camel in future and will follow the same path despite having two of the Special Hobby Kits on hand. I'll be following this latest piece of art from your bench with great interest, enjoy!
Cheers,
Lance
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I really do like odd ball aircraft that were only built as prototypes or in limited numbers, so I will be following with great interest. A very good subject for a conversion and with the WNW kit as a basis this should be another first class build.
Stephen.
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Hi all,
Twin pitot tubes added and the centre section cut-out forward edge corrected,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/pitottubes.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/cutout.jpg)
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Awesome work to date! Your usual thorough description is appreciated!
RAGIII
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Mike, the wing looks great and thanks for the kind words. Knowing about the relocated cockpit will save you a lot of frustration. Trust me!
Drew
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Following with interest Mike , which is looking fine :)
Terri
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Hi all,
I've been looking into how the aileron control cables were connected between the cockpit control and wing.
It appears that there were two slots through the wing centre section, above the cockpit.
At first I thought these slots were for the aileron control cables, similar to the French Nieuport fighter controls (although they were rod, not cable).
However, it seems these slots were not for aileron cables and that in fact cables were routed vertically from the cockpit and into the underside of the wing, just outboard from the wing slots.
The resin conversion set has detail of an inspection window in the upper surface of the wing, but does state that there is no photographic evidence for this.
I think it's assumed to be there as for the other Sopwith types (Camel, Snipe etc),
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/ail1.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/ail2.jpg)
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Hi all,
Pitot tubes, re-profiled centre section cut-out and wing slots added,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/reprofile.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/resin11.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/resin10.jpg)
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Great progress!
Do you have any idea about the reason for the cut outs?
Is it a maintenance issue or for improved visibilty into the upper hemisphere? Was it closed with clear foil, like some Nieuports?
Cheers,
Frank
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Good progress on the wing cut out, openings and Pitot tube/s!
RAGIII
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Frank,
The photographic evidence doesn't make it clear if the slots were covered or not.
However, given how small and narrow they are, my guess is that they are required for access when bolting to two wing halves together, rather than for pilot visibility.
Of course I could be wrong.
As I don't know how this wing was constructed it does make me wonder about the wings internal rear spar - does it run through these slots?
Mike
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Hmm, some more pictures or infos would be nice :(
I can't help with the wing, but if you have £11,500.00 available, you can buy the tailplane of the Swallow or Scooter at ebay 8)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WWI-Royal-Flying-Corps-Sopwith-Swallow-Scooter-Plane-Tail-/163334936855
Is it really that special tail, or from a Camel or so?
Your question about the wing spar is very interesting!
Cheers,
Frank
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Mike, looks great. I came to same conclusion as you about the cut outs: I think they may have provided access to the bolts that hold the wing halves together. It does not appear they had any covering. In the second photo you posted in reply #25, you can see what looked to me like the framing of an inspection window. I went with that and made a pulley and covered the window with thin clear plastic.
Drew
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Frank - I very much doubt it or it would have been snapped up my a museum etc.
Besides it looks to be in too good a condition to be original.
Drew - I took another, closer look at the photos and I think you're right - there does seem to be a faint outline of and inspection window, as illustrated by in the resin set sheets.
I'll go with that as well - thanks.
The rear cockpit decking panel was tricky to do, but then I didn't expect it would be easy.
Once all of the flash and the mounting block was cut away, I sanded the bottom edges and rear face.
The 'Wingnut Wings' kit fuselage was temporarily joined with elastic bands and the shoulder at the rear sanded away as it stopped the resin decking panel from dropping down.
I soon found out that, no surprise, the resin decking panel was not wide enough to sit correctly on the fuselage.
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/reardeck.jpg)
So I cut the panel down the centre and rejoined them, but with a 1.0 mm thick plastic card insert.
Carefully sanded to the decking profile.
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/reardeck2.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/reardeck3.jpg)
The front decking panel - that's another story!!
Mike
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The front decking doesn't sound good Mike and it looks like you are going to have fun blending in the rear decking . Good idea on spliting the rear decking and adding a spacer . Less putty which is always a good thing . Looking forward to your next up-date :)
Terri
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Not completely suprising about the rear deck panel, but as a great modeller, you handled it.
I suspect the slots in the wing were for torsion bar operated ailerons, but for some reason, the idea was abandoned. At least they are positioned in the right place for that. Perhaps with the flex encountered with one wing, the torsion bar would bind up.
Continuing to follow along...
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Excellent work on the rear decking! I am looking forward to how you handle the front panels!
RAGIII
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Hi all,
After Drew got my attention regards an aileron inspection window, I decided to go with it.
The wing had an inspection window for the aileron control cable and pulley, similar to other Sopwith types, such as the Pup, Camel and Snipe.
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/inspection1.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/ail52.jpg)
I've cut out the recess at two levels - one for the window and a lower level for the aileron pulley.
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/inspection2.jpg)
The aileron pulley was made from the 'HGW Models' photo-etch set for the Sopwith Triplane.
The inspection window is a spare from a previous 'Wingnut Wings' Sopwith Pup build.
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/inspection3.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/inspection4.jpg)
Mike
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Hi Ken,
Torsion bars - I hadn't thought about that possibility. Good thinking,
That might explain why there doesn't appear to be visibility of a wing rear inside the two wing slots.
Mike
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I miss a day and half an aircraft has been built....! How do you modellers do it I ask?
The details that you are adding are superb - this is going to be a real show stopper.
Stephen.
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Stephen - easy - it's called retirement ;)
Hi all,
Whilst 'working' on the resin front decking panel I spotted an error on both decking panels.
The rear decking panel has a pre-moulded fuel tank filler cap, which although in the correct position, is proud of the decking surface.
The actual aircraft had, like the Camel', an opening to gain access to the filler cap lower down inside the fuselage.
The front decking panel had a filler cap forward and between the gun troughs.
However on the resin panel this was just a stump of resin - not sure if it was a mis-mould?
Anyway I cut the filler cap from the rear decking panel and drilled out the location (the filler cap on the 'Wingnut Wings' tank will need to be moved to the other side to match).
I then drilled out the front decking panel location, filled the hole with modelling putty (from underneath) then inserted the filler cap from the rear panel.
So two faults corrected with one filler cap!!
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/reardeck4.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/frontdeck1.jpg)
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Excellent work as always!
RAGIII
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Hi all,
The resin set is intended for the Hobby Craft/Academy Camel kit, a'though I'm using a Wingnuts kit.
The sheets in the resin set state that due to differences in reference drawings, the front decking is too short (for the intended donor kit).
Now you can see just how short the length of the resin forward decking panel is, even on the Wingnut fuselage.
It's supposed to butt up against the rear decking panel.
Onward, upward,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/primeddecking.jpg)
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I can learn here every day a lot about this little plane from a century ago ;)
Again for the wing: the addional 12 strips on top of the wing, do you think it a enforcement?
May be it is additonally to allow the mechanics to check the rigging on top? Drew show them as wood on his model.
Cheers,
Frank
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Quite a bit short indeed! Is the difference in the rear, front, or elsewhere?
RAGIII
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Hi Rick,
It's the front decking panel that's too short. Adding an insert at the front wouldn't work and that would move the cockpit opening further rearwards.
I think the only option is to lengthen the rear sides somehow to join the rear decking panel.
Hi Frank,
There's not much information on this aircraft as only one was built in 1918 and scrapped in 1919.
Personally I don't think it was reinforcement for ground crew, as there is nothing like them on other high wing monoplanes, such as the French Morane Saulnier L or the German Pfalz equivalent.
I think it's more likely to be reinforcement for the wing structure, but as there is no information on the construction of the wing, it's anyone's guess,
Mike
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Hi all,
I looked further at the decking panels.
Missing is the rear of the front decking panel, which should join the rear decking panel.
However, this area is where the wing rear support strut should be located, which would account for half of that area.
I think this missing area can be filled with modelling putty, once the wing struts and decking panels are finally fitted, later in this build.
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/primeddecking.jpg)
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Wonderful work in spite of the glitch on the top decking which I am sure will be sorted soon.
BTW I too am retired but somehow I do not seem to have either time or energy for modelling at the moment, so I really envy those of you who do!!
Stephen.
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Hi Stephen,
I'm lucky in that I started planning my 'cave' and ordering equipment and models several years before I actually retired.
As my wife still works full time but has her own room (second kitchen) for creating cakes (weddings, occasions etc), which she does as her pastime.
In fact the two rooms are only separated by a glass window, so we can both be doing our thing and still be in contact with each other.
As for having the time and energy - I'm lucky as I have each day to fill and sat modelling is not that tiring, unless I'm rigging of course!!
Mike
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Hi all,
Well I've been working away on modifying the various cockpit parts from the Wingnut 'Camel' kit to that of the 'Swallow' aircraft.
The whole cockpit was effectively moved rearwards to improve over wing visibility for the pilot.
For the better forward visibility the two machine guns were fitted farther apart than normal.
This basically entailed modifying the fuel tank filler cap to the left side, modifying the seat support frame and moving the throttle quadrant assembly rearwards.
The control column floor was slightly modified and an extra under shield (from the spares box) was added to bring the rudder bar rearwards.
The external fuselage sides are different on the 'Swallow' with the carburretor intakes located in a different position, no ammunition chutes (cut outs in the decking panel instead) and smooth side panels with no 'nail' lines.
The centre section of the kit lower wing was cut away to be used as infill under the fuselage (will need re-profiling after fuselage closure).
The next step is to modify the instrument panel and ammunition containers assembly so it's located farther back and to allow the two machine guns to locate correctly into it as well as the forward decking panel.
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/trialfit1.jpg)
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A superb piece of modification there Mike. When tis is finished it will not be possible to see which parts you have altered unless on takes a very close look.
Stephen
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Looks great, Mike.
Drew
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Outstanding work on the cockpit Mods Mike! Looks Terrific!
RAGIII
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Looking good Frank , neat on using parts from the spare bin for the mods on this .
Terri
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Fantastic work Mike, I love what you're doing here, some great modelling :)
Cheers,
BC
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Great project, spectacular progress. I am watching with great interest!
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Hi all,
Well things are getting a bit cramped inside the cockpit now.
After a fair bit of cutting, sanding and modifying, all of the cockpit main assemblies are done.
The shot below shows it all loosely in place, including the two 'Gaspatch' machine guns (the decking still needs modifying to allow the guns to sit vertically).
I still have minor detail to add then obviously paint it all etc, as well as modify the outsides of the fuselage, which again are different from the 'Camel',
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/checkcockpit.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/checkcockpit2.jpg)
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Terrific progress Mike. That will be a great looking cockpit once painted!
RAGIII
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Moved to the WW.I Aircraft Information/Questions Thread.
Cheers,
Lance
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Moved to the 'WW1 Aircraft Information/Questions' thread,
Mike
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Moved to the WW.I Aircraft Information/Questions Thread.
Cheers,
Lance
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Moved to the 'WW1 Aircraft Information/Questions' thread,
Mike
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Moved to the 'WW1 Aircraft Information/Questions' thread,
Mike
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Mike,
Thanks for all the info and for your efforts. If I have more points to discuss or query I'll do it off line or start a separate thread as I've already interrupted the flow of your Build Log enough. The Kingston plant publications link is excellent stuff as well!
Cheers,
Lance
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Hi all,
Working now on modifying the forward fuselage details, which again are different to the 'Camel'.
The changes involve:
Removing the ammunition ejector ports on the fuselage forward panel.
Removing and filling the carburettor intake aperture on the fuselage forward panel.
Removing the fuselage panel detail - oval access panel, forward to rear panel joint, rear panel vertical ‘nail’ rows.
Removing existing elevator control line access points at the rear of the fuselage.
Removing the angled area at the bottom of the forward panel.
Re-scribe the angled panel line at the lower front of the forward panel.
Re-scribe the vertical joint between the rear and forward panels (further rearwards).
Drilling out the new elevator control line access points at the correct positions.
Creating new carburretor intakes at the correct position.
The lower wing centre section can't be filled and profiled until the fuselage is closed up.
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/rightfusmods.jpg)
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Hi all,
The cockpit is more or less ready for painting.
I've also made a brass tube/rod over wing cable support pylon, as the resin conversion struts are way too weak, especially as they don't have internal wire support,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/cockpitprimed1.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/cockpitprimed2.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/resinpylon.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/brasspylon.jpg)
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Excellent work, Mike.
Drew
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Hi all,
Forgot to add a cable retainer to the top of the pylon assembly,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/retainer.jpg)
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Awesome work as always Mike!
RAGIII
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Mike, you doing a great job on this conversion!
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/cockpitprimed2.jpg)
The color looks like you doing a 3D-model :D
Cheers,
Frank
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Mods are coming along very well Mike .
Terri
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Hi all,
The four stubby cabane struts are done.
I first drilled into the fuselage and cockpit side frames, at the appropriate angles, and fitted 0.8 mm diameter brass rod.
Then I created the outer coverings from 1.6 mm diameter brass tube (formed into aerofoil profile) and secured them onto the support rods using CA adhesive.
Much stronger than the conversion set resin struts.
Both the cabane struts and over wing pylon assembly are located in the four holes drilled through the wing.
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/struts7.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/struts8.jpg)
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Excellent work with the brass - indeed excellent work all round.
Stephen.
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Extraordinary Modeling on the struts Mike! Terrific work yet again!
RAGIII
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Indeed,that's a very elegant solution to mounting the wing,looking forward to seeing some colour.
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Absolutely masterful work on replacing the cabanes and pylon support Mike, this is all coming together in spectacular fashion. Most impressive!
Cheers,
Lance
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Hi all,
A few more changes required in the cockpit area.
1. Photographs show that the front decking panel had a cut-out on each side alongside the breech blocks of the Vicker's guns. These were filed out.
Also the decking panel was filed for clearance around the base of the four cabane struts.
2. The 'Camel' had the main fuel tank behind the pilot's seat and an auxiliary fuel tank above it, which also acted as a wind break, preventing too much airflow entering the rear fuselage as causing pressurisation damage. The 'Swallow' has only one fuel filler cap access aperture in the rear decking panel, indicating there was no auxiliary fuel tank fitted there. As such there would have been a large opening for airflow to enter. As with Fokker aircraft, I assume there may have been a linen wind break fitted above and behind the pilot's head, so that's been added to the inside of the rear decking panel.
3. The pilot's foot boards in the 'Swallow' extended farther forward than those fitted in the 'Camels' and ended just to the rear and below the rudder bar. These were added using 0.5 mm thick plastic card.
4. The 'Camel' aileron control cables were attached to a control lever on the forward end of the control column torque tube. These cables were routed outboard into the lower wing. However the 'Swallow' control cables appear to have been attached to the control column then routed outboard and into box section covers on the pilot's foot boards. From there the cables were routed around pulleys then vertically up and out of the cockpit into the underside of the wing centre section. These box sections were made from scrape photo-etch sheet.
Hopefully I be able to actually start painting soon,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/modfloor8.jpg)
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Nice detail work, Mike. Looking forward to seeing some color soon.
And good work on the cabane and pylon support.
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Continuing to be an awesome build log. I have an old Hobbycraft kit and a Part PE set. Could be tempted to find the conversion set by your build!
RAGIII
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The quality of your additions/modifications is truly stunning. The pictures make the model look very much larger than it really is - which makes this all the more impressive workmanship.
Stephen.
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Hi all,
And so it goes on!!
I found that at the rear lower sides of the decking panel are cut-outs through the panel. Inside these cut-outs are what appear to be curved plates. They seem too low to be deflector plates for expended ammunition from the gun breech blocks, given how high the guns are above the decking panel and the fact there is no obvious 'chute' attached to the guns. I can't find any information on how ammunition was fed to both guns on the 'Swallow'.
I'm guessing the ammunition belts were fed from inboard of the guns and expended ammunition ejected straight out of the breech blocks and over the sides of the fuselage.
Whatever the purpose is for these openings and plates, I'll need to add the plates after the fuselage is closed up.
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/deckingcutouts1.jpg)
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Hi all,
The engine supplied with the ‘Wingnut Wings’ kit is for the ‘Clerget’ 9B or 9Bf engines.
However the last engine type to be fitted to the Sopwith ’Swallow’ was the ‘Le Rhöne’ 9J (110 hp), which is of a different design and copied by Germany as the ‘Oberursel’ Ur.II.
Therefore I chose to use as a replacement engine the ‘CMK Master Models’ Le Rhöne 9J (110 hp) - (kit No.129-5105).
The most obvious difference in external appearance between the ‘Le Rhöne’ and ‘Clerget’ rotary engines is that the valve push rods were fitted to the rear of the ‘Le Rhöne’ engine cylinders, whereas the ‘Clerget’ engine had these fitted at the front of the cylinders.
Also the fuel/air induction pipes on both engine types were located at the rear of the cylinders, but whereas the ‘Clerget’ engine had these pipes connected to the rear of each cylinder head, those on the ‘Le Rhöne’ engine were connected at the side of each cylinder head.
The push rods were replaced by 0.4 mm diameter Nickel-Silver tube and the ignition leads were twisted 0.125 mm diameter copper wire.
The spark plugs were replaced using 0.5 mm and 0.3 mm diameter brass tube.
The propeller boss and back plate were discarded as the I'll be using a wood 'Lang' propeller from 'Proper Plane'.
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/engine1.jpg)
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Absolutely beautiful engine Mike!
RAGIII
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Hi all,
I'm currently working on the internal rigging.
Here's the flight controls consisting 'Gaspatch' 1:48th scale turnbuckles (Type A and C), 0.4 mm diameter Nickel-Silver tube and 'Stroft' 0.08 mm diameter mono-filament.
The rudder bar was drill with 0.2 mm diameter holes to secure the four rudder lines using 0.125 mm diameter copper wire.
The elevator pulleys were also drilled through to accept the elevator line.
A short piece of tube was secured to the control column to act as the attachment for the elevator forward cables.
The floor under the pilots foot boards has cross-bracing added.
Only the ailerons control run is still to fit, but can't be until the fuselage is closed up, due to the way the cable is routed.
Next up is the cross-bracing to the cockpit side frames.
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/modfloor17.jpg)
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Continuing to be a Fantastic build. The rigging is looking terrific!
RAGIII
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The engine and rigging of those control lines is super indeed.
Stephen.
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Nice looking fiddly bits.
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Really like how this conversion is turning out ...wonderful work so far Mike :)
Terri
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Hi all,
I've been working away at the cockpit area, which is just about ready for closing up the fuselage.
All of the flight controls, except ailerons, have been added along with the visible cross bracing on the cockpit side frames.
I still have to seal the area and gloss the instruments.
Also fit the pilot's seat straps, gun trigger cables and fuel tank pressurisation pipe, but they will be done after the fuselage has been closed up,
Mike
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Outstanding work on the Pit! One would never guess how much you modified the innards!
RAGIII
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Hi all,
The fuselage is closed up now.
I've added twin trigger cables and the 'blip' switch cable to the control column.
Also the seat belts, cockpit cross beam and the fuel pressure pipe from the pilot's hand pump to the fuel tank..
As usual not much can be seen, although the cockpit on the 'Swallow' is more open than most, but the low wing cover a lot.
Now it's onto filling and profiling the external fuselage.
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/pitdone1.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/pitdone2.jpg)
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This build is quite a treat -- thanks.
Gene K
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Outstanding progress! The interior looks terrific in the closed up fuselage!!
RAGIII
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^^^^^^^^
What Rick said :)
Terri
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Really stunning, Mike.
Drew
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Fantastic build and a very interesting and build log with lots of interesting facts. Hats off, Mike
Bye,
Manni
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Excellent cockpit. You've certainly crammed a lot of detail in there.
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This build shows sooo many details, but I think I will not be able to replicate all that facts into a 1/48 model. Simply fantastic!
Cheers,
Frank
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Hi all,
The 'Lang' propeller is wood laminated from 'ProperPlane' and was airbrushed with a 'Tamiya' clear orange and Hull Red mix, to create a darker and varnished appearance.
The machine guns are from 'Gaspatch' and were modified to add a 'ring' gun sight and alter the angle of the cocking handles,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/propdone.jpg)
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The prop and Vickers look excellent!
RAGIII
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Your propeller is stunning.
Cheers,
Gary
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Hi all,
Thanks for the encouraging comments - things should move a little faster now.
The cockpit area always take the most time on models I modify.
Mike
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I am catching up Mike - and my oh my you have done a marvellous job with that cockpit interior. The propellor and guns are also very good - in all this is going to be one to drool over when it is finished.
Stephen.
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Hi all,
I've re-profiled the forward fuselage area from what was the Sopwith 'Camel' to that of the Sopwith 'Swallow'
It required the removal of panel 'nail' lines, spent ammunition chutes, re-positioning of panel joins, extending the lower 'cut-out' and filling/blending in the 'Camel' lower wing area.
Mike
Sopwith 'Camel'
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/compare1.jpg)
Sopwith 'Swallow'
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Terrific work on converting the fuselage and filling in the wing mount areas! Really coming along well!
RAGIII
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Hi all,
I've started the painting in preparation for the application of the 'Aviattic' linen effect decals (CDL and PC12).
The external fuselage, wing, tail plane, elevator, rudder and fin were primed using 'AK Interactive' white (AK-759).
The fuselage forward side panels and front decking panel were airbrushed with 'Tamiya' ocean grey (XF82).
The rear decking panel and fuselage side panels were airbrushed with 'Tamiya' deck tan (XF55) the brushed with 'DecoArt' Burnt Umber acrylic oil paint, to create a wood effect.
The undercarriage struts, fuselage cabane struts and over wing cable support pylon were treated the same.
I still have to create the 'in-fill' between the rear and front decking panels and paint the cockpit surround padding.
Then it's onto fitting the two weapons and ammunition feed and ejector detail,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/fus1.jpg)
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Oh Mike, your "sandbagger" account is gone? I was confused for a moment - welcome, Mr. Norris! ;)
Are you sure with the wood color on side panels/cockpit decking?
If I look on your picture of the first posting, it looks for me grey as the front too:
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/swallow4.jpg)
See also the top picture Windsock International Vol14/4 page 19.
That is also what the manual of my 1/48 kit says.
May be you had a Camel in mind?
It will be interesting, how the linen decals will look like, never seen that in real.
Cheers,
Frank
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More outstanding work Mike! Looking splendid!
RAGIII
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Super project Mike, and brave!
Guy
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Outstanding so far Mike , she is shaping up wonderful :)
Terri
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Oh Mike, your "sandbagger" account is gone? I was confused for a moment - welcome, Mr. Norris! ;)
Are you sure with the wood color on side panels/cockpit decking?
If I look on your picture of the first posting, it looks for me grey as the front too:
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/swallow4.jpg)
See also the top picture Windsock International Vol14/4 page 19.
That is also what the manual of my 1/48 kit says.
May be you had a Camel in mind?
It will be interesting, how the linen decals will look like, never seen that in real.
Cheers,
Frank
Hi Frank,
I thought I'd change to my name rather than my 'sandbagger' aka - it seems to be a trend now on some other forums I visit.
Yeah, I fell into the 'Camel' trap with the panel covering.
It's always difficult to figure out exactly what colours are evident in most WW1 monochrome photographs, but on revisiting what shots I do have, it seems pretty obvious the panels and decking were grey.
I may over spray the wood effect to give a wood texture showing through.
If not I'll strip it back and re-colour, which will be easier as the oil paints I use are water based, so can be removed with water and cotton buds (provided they haven't been sealed over).
Thanks for pointing that out, before I went too far,
Mike
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Hi all,
I painted wood effect on the fuselage rear panels and rear decking, but that was not correct as they should be grey.
Luckily the oil paint used is water based so I've removed the wood effect and airbrushed with 'Tamiya' ocean grey (XF82).
Mike
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Excellent correction . Looks Fantastic!
RAGIII
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Hi all,
The decal pre-shading has now been applied - 'Tamiya' Smoke X19.
Before the decals are applied I need to finish a few bits around the cockpit - padding, missing front to rear decking panel sections, machine guns and ammunition feeds and windshield.
Mike
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Thanks for pointing that out, before I went too far
Mike, that's why we doing build reports :)
I am glad that I could help, because I learnt about so many details from your build report!
Cheers,
Frank
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The pre shading looks excellent!
RAGIII
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Looking great, Mike!
Drew
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Love it Mike !
Terri
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Hi all,
I've used 'Milliput' two part putty to fill the gap between the resin front and rear cockpit decking panels.
Painted with 'Humbrol' leather (62) and highlighted using 'Tamiya' hull red (XF9).
Mike
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I thought I'd change to my name rather than my 'sandbagger' aka - it seems to be a trend now on some other forums I visit.
A trend with what possible logical purpose (other than to confuse)?
Great project, Mike ... as usual. Your builds are always an inspiration!!
Gene K
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Hi Glen,
I think some forums wan't to make things a bit more personal, rather than members using an 'aka'.
That said it's only a couple of forums I visit that seem to be edging that way,
Anyway I left 'sandbagger' in my forum name so hopefully anyone following won't get too confused,
Mike
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Hi all,
The engine cowl and after market ‘CMK Master Models’ Le Rhöne 9J (110 hp) has been fitted, which is the correct engine for the 'Swallow'.
The next step is to create cowl plates that were fitted to replace the 'Camel' strap type fasteners at the top of the cowl.
The bottom strap fasteners were retained.
Then final fit the two 'Vickers' guns and feed chutes.
Mike
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The Engine looks great in the cowling! Looking forward to your further progress!
RAGIII
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That does look nice 8)
Terri
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Great modelling, all around. As usual. A joy to behold!
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Hi all,
Both 'Vickers' guns are fitted along with their ammunition feed belts.
The 'Swallow' did not have ammunition ejector chutes, as fitted to the 'Camel'.
My assumption is that the ammunition was fed to each weapon from inboard of the breech blocks and spent rounds were ejected outboard over the fuselage sides.
Next is to sort out the wind screen and 'Aldis' gun sight.
None of the available data show an 'Aldis' sight fitted, other than the information supplied with the resin conversion set.
As the 'Swallow' was a 1918-19 design, it's quite possible that this sight was fitted,
Mike
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Guns and ammo belts look Awesome!
RAGIII
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I believe you are correct about the spent cartridges, if they used the discentigrating belt. I had to figure out how all that worked for the Pup I'm working on. Before the discentigrating belt, they used a cloth belt, which went straight through the gun breech and the spent cartridges came out of the cloth belt and were ejected out the bottom of the gun.
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Mike, that is a great real looking macro shot of your model! I like the belts.
Cheers,
Frank
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Thanks guys.
Ken:
Thanks for your information. The two weapons were widely spaced weapons and the fact there are no ejector chutes fitted does seem to suggest they were fed from inboard,
Mike
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I have been catching up on this thread - really good progress and very impressive modelling here. The guns and cowl are super. This is going to be a great conversion.
Stephen.
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Hi all,
The forward fuselage and cockpit area is nearly done.
It included a fair bit of modification, no surprise there.
It includes adding the two machine guns, wind screen and 'Aldis' gun sight with cockpit support frame, adding access holes in the front decking panel and side plates in the decking panel cut-outs.
Also nail lines up the fuselage side panels and changing the retaining straps at the top of the engine cowl to those for the 'Swallow', which were metal retainer strips.
Next is to add the twin pitot-static pipes onto the forward right cabane strut and the cross bracing rigging between the cabane struts and across the forward two struts,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/forwardfus1.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/forwardfus2.jpg)
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Hi!
Transforming a Camel into a Swallow is one of my next desired projects. I'm a 1/72 modeller so I will use the old Revell or the new Roden kits.
Your fantastic WIP for sure will guide me. You put attention in every little aspect of this nimble plane/model.
Everytime I see your forward steps I remain with my mouth open...
First class work!
Roberto
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Hi Roberto,
Thanks for your kind comments.
I hope to finish this model in the next few weeks.
Once I do I will as usual post a full build log in PDF format on my site (link below) for anyone to download.
It will contain step by step chapters with all of my modifications, illustrations, photos and what research data I could find,
Mike
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Continuing to be a superb piece of work Mike! Really taking shape now!
RAGIII
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Wonderful work Mike :)
Guy
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Hi all,
The undercarriage assembly has been fitted.
Also added are the panel fasteners to the rear of the undercarriage, a drain pipe and the cross bracing anchors in the fuselage under shield,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/rig1.jpg)
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Details, details, details
Continuing to be an awesome build, Mike.
Are the wingnuts from Taurus?
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Hi Ken,
Thanks.
Yes they are 'Taurus' wing nuts (M0025).
The photo of that area doesn't make it clear as to exactly what type of fasteners were used.
Mike
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Simply gorgeous Mike. :D
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Moving along nicely !
Ed
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Moving along nicely !
Ed
Agreed....and then some 8)
RAGIII
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This is moving along very well Mike , nice job on the landing gear and a nice set of nuts !
Terri
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Hi Terri,
Thanks - nicest compliment I'd had for years - oh you mean the model - oops :o,
Mike
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I will refrain from commenting on your nuts Mike - instead I will stick with WOW that looks really good!
Stephen.
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Hi Stephen,
Heh he ;D - wrong forum for that sort of topic I think.
Thanks,
Mike
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Hi all,
I've spent the last day or so applying the decals to the 'Swallow'.
The PC12 upper surfaces and the CDL undersides were 'Aviattic' linen effect decals. The decals are supplied as A4 sheets and are not 'cookie cut', so each has to be templated and then cut.
The white fin marking (AMA.E) and the name 'SWALLOW' of the fuselage sides were created, letter by letter, from 'Xtradecal' sheets.
The specific serial number of B9276 was also created from number/leterrs and white strip from 'Xtradecal'.
The biggest problem was the wing roundels, as the wing of the 'Swallow' had a wider wing chord than that of the 'Camel, therefore the 'Camel' decals were way too small.
In the end I resorted to Cutting up and re-assembling decals from both the 'Wingnut Wings' Sopwith Pup (RNAS) and the SE5a, both of which I had as spares.
For example the wing upper roundels were created from four separate cut decals.
The colouring of the blue (lighter shade) on these roundels reflects that used towards the end of the conflict.
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/decalsdone1.jpg)
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Looks Beautiful with the Markings applied. You have really made Terrific use of the Aviattic linen decals!
RAGIII
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OMG - what a great result you created so far!
Nice effect created by the linen decals.
Cheers,
Frank
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Hi all,
A couple more details.
The inspection window in the upper surface of the wing, for the aileron pulley and cable.
Also seen is the wing centre joint and head padding on the trailing edge of the wing centre section.
Finally the wheels (not weathered yet),
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/inspection5.jpg)
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Nicely done details as usual!
RAGIII
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Just superb work, Mike!
Drew
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Hi all,
Weathering wash ('Flory Models' grime clay wash) applied and once dry, wiped off to leave subtle weathering, which was the sealed with 'Alclad' light sheen (ALC-311) lacquer.
The weathering is subtle as this aircraft was only flown as a prototype and saw very limited operational testing. As such it wouldn't have looked 'war weary'.
Next is pre-rigging followed by assembly then lastly, the final rigging.
After that it's just the display base,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/washon.jpg)
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Every time you use the Flory wash I decide to get some and then don't ::) I think this time has finally made Me decide to actually make the purchase 8) Looks Fantastic!
RAGIII
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That top pic looks like an unfortunate crash!
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Hi Rick,
It's good stuff and very easy to apply with no risk.
Here's an extract from my build log, which will be made available once the model is finished.
Mike
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Flory Model clay washes: These washes come in various shades and consist of a suspended and very fine clay pigment.
They are brushed over the surface to be weathered and dry in around 30 minutes.
When dry, use either a piece of good, absorbent kitchen roll or a soft to remove as much of the clay wash as you need to achieve the desired effect.
Once dampened, the dried clay is re-activated and the clay wash can be removed or worked as required.
First I seal the surface with airbrushed ‘Alclad’ Light Sheen (ALC-311), which dries quickly. A gloss coat tends to stop the clay wash ‘gripping’ the surface when it is applied and it can run off or just puddle. A matte coat can cause the clay wash to ‘grip’ too much, making it difficult to remove or even to wash it off completely.
NOTE 1: The more glossy the applied sealing coat is, the more the chance there is that the applied ’Flory’ clay wash will not spread fully, but rather form puddles or beads of wash. If this happens, add a few drops of ordinary kitchen washing up liquid to the clay wash. This will break the surface tension of the wash, allowing it spread fully.
NOTE 2: Always decant the amount of clay wash you need, rather than dipping the brush directly into the wash bottle. Dipping into the wash bottle can transfer contaminants from the brush into the wash, will can cause the wash to become thick and unusable.
NOTE 3: When a sealing coat is applied over areas treated with clay wash weathering, the intensity of the applied wash tends to darken. This should be considered when removing the clay wash, otherwise the final effect may appear too dark.
To apply the clay wash is just a matter of brushing all over the surface to be weathered. It doesn’t matter really how much is applied as it can be left on for any period, as it is easily removed without any effect on the surface underneath.
If you don't achieve your desired effect, you can wash it all off and start again.
The washes I tend to use are the ‘Flory Models’ Clay Wash ’Grime’ and ’Dark Dirt’.
I use a soft brush, which has been very slightly dampened, to brush off the clay wash.
For smearing effects, a very slightly damp brush or absorbent paper should be used, but even then I dab them onto a dry piece of the paper, until it’s almost dry.
Any wetter and you’ll find that you are removing too much of the clay wash. If that happens you would have to re-apply the wash and start again. That said, if you’re not happy with the final effect, you can easily remove the clay wash by brushing with a wet brush or even airbrush water over the surface. Dry off the surfaces washed and then re-apply the clay wash and try again until you are satisfied.
The technique is to 'damp' brush or wipe over the surface to re-activate the clay wash and at the same time, to smear it over areas that had no clay wash.
It’ll dry more or less straight away. Then I’ll very lightly brush and/or use a piece of damp absorbent paper to remove as much as I want until I get the desired effect.
If I remove too much I just reapply clay wash to that area and repeat the removal procedure.
Once finished, just run the brush under a tap to rinse out any residual clay pigments.
Finally I usually seal the surface with airbrushed ‘Alclad’ Light Sheen (ALC-311), which will seal in the applied clay wash.
NOTE 4: ‘Flory’ current range of washes are: Dark Dirt, Grime, Black, Light (white), Mud, Sand, Rust and Concrete. All of these washes can be used as-is or mixed to create many colour shades for weathering.
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Thanks for the detailed description of the products use!
RAGIII
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I too echo Rick's thanks. Your artistry amazes.
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Link to the Flory Models store, where they have their sanding sticks as well.
Mike
https://www.pmmodelsuk.com/tools
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Hi all,
I've been slowly working my way through the pre-riggng stage.
So far the the control lines for the Rudder, Elevator, Tail Skid and the cross bracing at the fuselage under shield panel and the undercarriage.
Next are the control lines for the ailerons and cross bracing between the cabane struts.
Then it'll be wing and tail unit on to complete aileron controls, flying and landing wires and tail bracing,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/rigaileroncockpit.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/rigundershield1.jpg)
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Mike,
I've just reviewed your latest photos and have to say this is truly a fine and very impressive representation of the Model Builder's art ...... in a word superb! The cockpit shot and flight controls are all so beautifully represented and when the "conversion and scratch built" aspects are considered the project becomes even better.
It's not finished yet but I am blown away by the quality of work ......... incredibly well done Sir!!
Cheers,
Lance
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Hi all,
Last of the pre-rigging done on the underside of the wing and on the ailerons.
Now the final assembly can be completed then final rigging,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/rigaileronsdone.jpg)
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This is just incredible work, Mike!
Drew
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Mike, its not clear to me in the photo but on the elevator control horns, did you drill one hole for both the control line and bracing line to pass through, or are there two holes?
Excellent detailing, BTW.
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Simply Fantastic!
RAGIII
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Hi all,
The tail unit has been finally rigged.
Included are the elevator, rudder and tail skid control lines.
Also the tail plane bracing lines.
The line end fittings are 0.4 mm Nickel-Silver tube, finished with an enamel wash.
The lines themselves are 0.08 mm diameter mono-filament.
Time to move onto fitting the wing and all of the rigging,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/rigtail1.jpg)
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Beautiful work Mike!
RAGIII
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Mike, its not clear to me in the photo but on the elevator control horns, did you drill one hole for both the control line and bracing line to pass through, or are there two holes?
Excellent detailing, BTW.
Hi Ken,
The actual control horns for the elevator had two cable attachments.
The cables from the fuselage were attached to the top of the control horns.
The cables from the horns and through the elevator were attached to the rear of the control horns, but part way down the rear edge.
However, I've found that drilling a hole through the control horns for attaching the rear cables tends to weaken the plastic and can cause the horns to distort or break when the lines are tensioned.
Instead I drill just the one hole at the top of the control horns and attach both cables to it.
As the rear cables are angled downwards, it still gives the impression that the line is attached farther down the rear of the control horn than it actually is,
Mike
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Okay, thanks for the clarification. I just drilled another set of holes on the control horns of my Sopwith Pup for the bracing cables, but I'm afraid the horns are now too weak for rigging. We'll see how it works out.
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Okay, thanks for the clarification. I just drilled another set of holes on the control horns of my Sopwith Pup for the bracing cables, but I'm afraid the horns are now too weak for rigging. We'll see how it works out.
You should be OK provided not too much tension is applied that may pull through the drilled hole or damage the horns.
Mike
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Hi all,
The wing is now fitted onto the fuselage cabane struts.
Also fitted are the ailerons and the over wing cable support pylon.
Now to complete all of the wing rigging,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/wingon.jpg)
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Not much to say other than your build continues to be Brilliant!
RAGIII
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Hi all,
The final rigging is now complete.
This includes:
Aileron control lines from the cockpit to the underside of the wing.
Cabane strut side and front cross bracing.
Over wing landing wires.
Under wing landing and double flying wires.
I'll post the completed model shots once I've finished the figure and display base,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/aileronrigcockpit.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/cabanerig.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/finalrig1.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SWALLOW/finalrig2.jpg)
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Beautiful work on the rigging and beautiful in general. :)
A question...what's the white thing "inside" the machine gun?
Robin
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Hi Robin,
I'm not sure what you are referring to.
Possibly light reflection from the grid vents on the machine gun cooling jackets?
Maybe the ring gun sight, located inboard from the right machine gun?
Mike
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I guess it's reflection...
(https://i.postimg.cc/Nf2scDfg/aileronrigcockpit.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
This is what I mean.
Robin :)
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Hi Robin,
Yes that's it - light reflection when taking the shots,
Mike
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Awesome rigging Mike! Simply Brilliant Build!
RAGIII
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What a superb piece of modelling. The struts and support pylon are as good as or better than any that you would get in a kit and the rigging sets it all off brilliantly.
Stephen.
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Awesome rigging Mike! Simply Brilliant Build!
RAGIII
I second this , very well done Mike :) :) :)
Terri
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Mike, just absolutely brilliant work! How did you attach the rigging to the top of the pylon on top of the wing? I never found a good photo of that.
Drew
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Beautiful work. Cheers Matt
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Hi all,
Thank you for your kind comments.
Drew:
As this aircraft was built late in 1918 it's probable that like most RAF aircraft at that time, it was fitted with aerodynamic 'streamlined' landing and flying wires.
Therefore it would have had adjustable end fittings at both ends of each wire. As to exactly how this was configured is up for debate as, like you, I couldn't find a good photo of the pylon connections.
Fitted over wing at each side were four landing wires and under wing at each side were four 'pairs' of flying wires, which were attached to the tops of the undercarriage struts.
I started by attaching wires to holes through the struts, then routed a long single length of mono-filament up and through the wing then up to the over wing support pylon.
The line was passed through the top fitting (made from photo-etch strip) and out to the opposite wing, down through the wing and back to the undercarriage strut on that side.
There it was routed through the appropriate hole in the undercarriage strut, tensioned and secured in position.
I slid two 0.4 mm Nickel-Silver micro-tubes onto each 'individual' segment of wire as I went. These represent the wire end fittings.
Effectively a single length of line was used to represent one of a pair of under wing flying wires as well as a single over wing landing wire.
The remaining under wing flying wires were added as single lengths.
So a total of 16 under wing flying wires and 8 over wing landing wires.
It's all detailed, with illustrations etc, in the PDF build log, which will be available on my site shortly,
Mike
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Hi all,
The Sopwith 'Swallow' is now complete and posted in the 'Completed Models' thread.
Many thanks for following this build and your kind comments.
A full build log, in PDF format, will be available from my site (link below),
Mike