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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: Gisbod on March 25, 2017, 11:59:11 PM
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Apologies if previously posted but there's an interesting interview in the April edition of Scale Aviation Modeller with Richard Alexander.
I suppose it doesn't tell us anything new but highlights are:
Aircraft featured on the box art doesn't mean future kits
He does know what the missing 20 kits will be from the kit numbers 1-76 currently on the website (but won't tell obviously!)
Reasserting that if a good kit is available they won't do it - cites the Dr.1 as an example (apologies to Dr.1 fans :-[ )
French kits unlikely due same reasoning
Special Editions are definitely due at some point as are over 200 figures!
Guy
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Thanks for the nod to the article.
His reference to the DR.I refers to the Roden kit I suppose. Odd that WnW should consider it good enough to not be worth improving. It's an adequate kit, nothing more & although I have 3 in the stash I'd swap all for one WnW produced version.
Regards
Russell
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Yes Russell, he cites the Roden Fokker as being 'excellent' but I couldn't agree with you more.
They'd sell them in bucket loads...
Guy
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Interesting points Guy, Thanks very much for passing this along. He knows the identities of the 20 Kits for the missing numbers on the list; now there`s food for speculation! My mind goes into overdrive........
Cheers,
Lance
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That is interesting. The good kits reasoning also means the existing French kits are considered good enough? Misdirection?
I find myself also hoping for a DVIII. The Avis kit is rough, but workable, and the Micro-Mir is at this point, and unknown.
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Apologies if previously posted but there's an interesting interview in the April edition of Scale Aviation Modeller with Richard Alexander.
I suppose it doesn't tell us anything new but highlights are:
Aircraft featured on the box art doesn't mean future kits
He does know what the missing 20 kits will be from the kit numbers 1-76 currently on the website (but won't tell obviously!)
Reasserting that if a good kit is available they won't do it - cites the Dr.1 as an example (apologies to Dr.1 fans :-[ )
French kits unlikely due same reasoning
Special Editions are definitely due at some point as are over 200 figures!
Guy
These are very interesting news, thank you for posting them! Don't know what makes me more excited, the 20 missing kits or the 200 (t-w-o hundrets???!) figures :)
Borsos
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Still looking forward to the 0/400 from them.
HpH is taking care of that for you, as I've said all along, anything WnW decide to release is fine with me. ;D
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Do i understand well that Richard Alexander said, Wingnut Wings are not doing kits of french planes, as there are good kits of those around? In 1:32th scale? Which kits could Richard have meant? Academy's Nieuport 17? But there are not so many kits of french aeroplanes in 1:32th scale around, are they? I could fancy MANY more...
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Really don't get the obsession with the Dr.I. Quite apart from whether the Roden kit is any good - I've made it and thought it was fine, though you could see room for improvement - I just don't think it's that significant. Not many were built and most German pilots immediately jumped ship for the D.VII as soon as they could, just as Richthofen himself would have if he'd had the chance.
I'm much more bothered about the implication that they won't do an Albatros D.III, not because I want one - I really like my Roden kit - but because it kind of means I won't get an Oeffag D.III. A continuing missed opportunity IMHO - just look at the Osprey volume specifically devoted to them, loads of fab schemes to do.
I think WNW might say, that the Camel happened because to all intents and purposes the later improved Hobbycraft Camels are no longer available.
And I'm troubled and saddened by the reported remark about French planes. Are the currently available Nieuports really, really up to snuff??
Oh well, back to staring bleakly at my stash.
Mark
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Drat! Would love a Nieuport 11, 16, 17 by WNW! One can dream I suppose!
Glenn
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I agree, while there are pretty decent Nieuport 11, 16, 24, 27 and 28 out there in 1/32 none are near WNW.
A new N17 and Spad 13 would sure be nice though - maybe some other mfg will jump in on that one if WNW is saying no.... Seems like both would be top sellers....
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It is not the obsession with the Dr.1 so much as the possibility of getting a DETAILED, accurate large scale F.1. Specifically F103/17. I would immediately buy at least one Dr.1/F.1 Wingnut Wings kit. Say what you will about Richthofen and the "tired" all red triplane, he was the most important and significant aviator of WWI and I would certainly build one of his Dr.1s. However, to my mind, Werner Voss's September evening fight with 56 Squadron proves he was the most skilled, daring and fearless dog fighter of any war aviator. Period. His F103/17 deserves to be modeled by Wingnut Wings and I sincerely encourage them to do so.
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Just to flesh it out a bit..,
Re the French aircraft:
"There are plenty of really nice 1/32 models of very popular French aircraft available from Roden, Special Hobby, Amodel, Hobbycraft and Academy so we're unlikely...
There is, however, a dearth of Italian & Austro-Hungarian models... "
I think there's a clue there somewhere... ;)
Guy
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Apart from the fact that the available plastic kits of french planes in 1:32th scale are all (?) single-seaters, French does not always have to be french, like Wingnut Wings already proved with their (beautiful!) Salmson. Breguet XIV comes to mind (and to my wishlist..: USAS!), or the SPAD XI (USAS too). Then, talking about italian planes: What about a Caproni Ca.3 (even a USAS-version would be possible). And that idea also works the orher way 'round: The Sopwith Strutter, certainly not a french invention, was mostly flown by the french.. And concerning Austria-Hungaria: Apart from the obvious single-seaters and the much appreciated flying boats (not my cup of tea, though), the Hansa-Brandenburg C.I or even the G.I come to my innocent mind... But, no matter what we'll see: only 20 numbers left is far to few, isn't it?
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Apart from the fact that the available plastic kits of french planes in 1:32th scale are all (?) single-seaters, French does not always have to be french, like Wingnut Wings already proved with their (beautiful!) Salmson. Breguet XIV comes to mind (and to my wishlist..: USAS!), or the SPAD XI (USAS too). Then, talking about italian planes: What about a Caproni Ca.3 (even a USAS-version would be possible). And that idea also works the orher way 'round: The Sopwith Strutter, certainly not a french invention, was mostly flown by the french.. And concerning Austria-Hungaria: Apart from the obvious single-seaters and the much appreciated flying boats (not my cup of tea, though), the Hansa-Brandenburg C.I or even the G.I come to my innocent mind... But, no matter what we'll see: only 20 numbers left is far to few, isn't it?
I couldn't agree more. And to stress these examples a little further: SPAD XI has the problem of missing interior documentation (afaik), but there's a wonderfull Voisin 8 at the Washington Air and Space Museum. And what about a Caudron G IV in 1/32? A small company in Eastern Europe showed all how to produce a first rate kit of the Caudron in 1/48, hey, New Zealand, you can't equal that in 1/32, don't you ;)?
Caudrons, Farmans, all flown by the French and the Brits and very well documented. So mates! Don't hide behind Nieuports and SPADs! That's a lame excuse for not doing French subjects.
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It seems to me that the "Basics" have not changed from his interview years ago except that the number of proposed missing kits is now 20.
RAGIII
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Is the entire interview available somewhere in the world wide web?
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I think you'd have to buy the magazine download.
He also said some of the figures would be in the Special Edition kits (along with extensive photoetch) and some would be available as a stand alone boxing.
Guy
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"Reasserting that if a good kit is available they won't do it - cites the Dr.1 as an example (apologies to Dr.1 fans :-[ )"
Really? I'm not convinced.
This would seem to contradict the fact that WNW has released kits previously released by Roden, i.e Sopwith Triplane, SE5a, and DH-2.
They were all of a good standard, better than the Dr.I, IMO.
Cheers
Syd
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Yes, with regards to the Camel he went on to say...
"After many years of requests and then carefully reviewing the available 1/32 Camels we relented and decided this most important aircraft deserved our attention after all"
So maybe the Fokker isn't dead in the water after all ;)
Guy
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"Reasserting that if a good kit is available they won't do it - cites the Dr.1 as an example (apologies to Dr.1 fans :-[ )"
Really? I'm not convinced.
This would seem to contradict the fact that WNW has released kits previously released by Roden, i.e Sopwith Triplane, SE5a, and DH-2.
They were all of a good standard, better than the Dr.I, IMO.
I believe that WNW had the DH2, SE5a and Tripe in progress prior to Roden announcing theirs. My interpretation is Roden rushed theirs to market when WNW showed up out of nowhere and announced their line of kits. WNW likely decided not to cancel their kits since they had already had them underway.
Could be wrong but I feel that is more likely vs WNW being terrible liars
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Its always exciting when Wingnuts lifts a corner of their curtain and gives us a glimpse inside the magic cave :)
I have not read the magazine article but the remarks attributed to Richard are of interest. All of us excitedly await and speculate on what the forthcoming projects may be after the Taube. We all have our favourites and personally I endorse their not doing a DR.1 if it means we instead get a new kit that has not been done in 1/32 or has been done badly to date. Yes I'm looking at you, Roden Siemens Schuckert D.III
Wingnut Wings kits are the best 1/32 WW1 kits in the world. I would hope we will see some more British subjects and perhaps less emphasis on German 2 seaters or bombers.
As for the long- promised figures and special editions, Wingnuts have been promising these since 2009 so they must expect customers to be a little cynical by now. I would rather that they put the R & D money into new kits rather than accessories. Let that side go to the aftermarket people.
Its comforting to know new projects are in the wings ( as it were) and long may it continue.
I can't imagine a 1/32 scale WW1 modelling world without Wingnuts in it.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Sounds good. 20 more models and-best at all 200 figures!!!
Sad to hear they won't do a new Dr1, but I can life with this fact.
Manni
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And here I was hoping that WNW would release at least one new type for the 100 years anniversary of early war planes: Vickers, Farman, and a few others. The Taube is a good start on early war stuff.
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Sir Peter and Associates have their own agenda (where would a Roland Walfisch have ranked on ANY modeler's Wish List??) which is (with minor exception) immutable and known only to them.. . I get a real yuk from those who seem to expect that WnW must per force move to "Golden Age"aircraft once they're done with WWI (FTFO!)
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Sir Peter and Associates have their own agenda (where would a Roland Walfisch have ranked on ANY modeler's Wish List??).....
Rob,
Quite high up judging by some of the polls on various forums & the reception it received. Even Airfix produced one approaching 50 years ago & it's still getting re-released with different boxes etc.
As you say though WnW have their own agenda - I find this a breath of fresh air compared to other companies who (very understandably) have to produce what they think the 'market' wants most.
Regards
Russell
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As you say though WnW have their own agenda - I find this a breath of fresh air compared to other companies who (very understandably) have to produce what they think the 'market' wants most.
Regards
Russell
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And Good thing they do have their own agenda, look at what marvelous kits they have done !
No "market driven" company would ever make a new 1/32 line of kits with the GOTHA as the #1 kit of the line (and probably never).
Pick any other of the WNW kits outside of the vanilla, chocolate, strawberry variety would not exist under a market driven mind set.
Merely look at 1/32 WW II and how it has taken 50+ years to get such subjects as the Do 335, Ju88, versus the abundance of P-51's, 109's, Spits, etc., etc.. We would not have a third of what we have from WNW and probably never see them otherwise.
Ed
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Sir Peter and Associates have their own agenda (where would a Roland Walfisch have ranked on ANY modeler's Wish List??) which is (with minor exception) immutable and known only to them.. . I get a real yuk from those who seem to expect that WnW must per force move to "Golden Age"aircraft once they're done with WWI (FTFO!)
As it so happened, the Roland Walfisch was at the top of my WNW wish list for years so I for one was quite delighted when it was announced. An example of both versions now rest comfortably in my WNW stash. :)
Eric
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Sir Peter and Associates have their own agenda (where would a Roland Walfisch have ranked on ANY modeler's Wish List??) which is (with minor exception) immutable and known only to them.. . I get a real yuk from those who seem to expect that WnW must per force move to "Golden Age"aircraft once they're done with WWI (FTFO!)
As it so happened, the Roland Walfisch was at the top of my WNW wish list for years so I for one was quite delighted when it was announced. An example of both versions now rest comfortably in my WNW stash. :)
Eric
Yes I've got 3 kits of the Walfish, one to convert to the prototype, one for the early linen coloured version & one for the early pale blue version.
Errr..... then there's a kit of the late version - make that 4 then ::)
Regards
Russell
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I wish the move to a distributorship had been discussed. On a personal Canadian note the cost of WNW has become pretty much out of reach. For example the Pup was $69 US shipped free. It's now $79 US and $40 US shipping. Add the slip in currency exchange - I know not WNW's fault - but that's - $69 CDN (we were par back then) to now approx $150 CDN. Pretty tough to justify unless it's an absolute must have type. I wont be buying a WNW just because its a great kit.
Steve
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That is crazy for a plastic kit - no matter how great it is
Shame
Guy
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Wow Steve, that is crazy.... :o Anybody stepping up in Canada to carry WNWs yet? Probably would help all those great modelers up north. Here's hoping things get sorted out for our neighbors to the north.
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I would be very interested in that.
Steve
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I hope that works out for you guys. When WNW started, I knew nothing of them, and purchased a couple of kits figuring if they went belly-up, at least I'd have a couple of unusual WWI types. Over the years I've acquired enough that if I cannot get another, I've plenty to build, trade, or sell off. The complete shambles that is WNW kit distribution is a little disheartening, as there is a solid core market for their kits. I've got Sprue Bros. and Lots of Models to choose from here, but the cross border exchange rates are a killer. So, hopefully, someone up north will pick up their kits.
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Sir Peter and Associates have their own agenda (where would a Roland Walfisch have ranked on ANY modeler's Wish List??) which is (with minor exception) immutable and known only to them.. . I get a real yuk from those who seem to expect that WnW must per force move to "Golden Age"aircraft once they're done with WWI (FTFO!)
As it so happened, the Roland Walfisch was at the top of my WNW wish list for years so I for one was quite delighted when it was announced. An example of both versions now rest comfortably in my WNW stash. :)
Eric
Yes I've got 3 kits of the Walfish, one to convert to the prototype, one for the early linen coloured version & one for the early pale blue version.
Errr..... then there's a kit of the late version - make that 4 then ::)
Regards
Russell
I too have a Walfish, and I recently finished it. I will say that I would have never purchased a "unique" kit on my own. But it came from back in the day, when WNW was lower priced, the Canadian dollar was at par, and the shipping was free. My wife would go on-line 3 times a year, my birthday, Christmas, and Father's Day, and order me a kit. She would check my WNW stash and order me something I didn't have, so that I how I ended up with my "odd-ball" kits, because these are kits I would never buy.
Now that times have changed for the worst with WNW in Canada, she doesn't order me kits anymore, and my supply of "odd-balls" have dried up. So now I am only ordering the kits I really want, which are single seat fighters, as it is a major expense and inconvenience to get WNW kits. So my personal tastes are unlikely to reshape WNW product releases, but bring on the DR. 1, Nieuports, and albs.
I've already purchased all my Camels from lots of models, and have them shipped to USA based postal handling company, and then I drive over the boarder and pick them up myself. Lucky to live near a boarder crossing, but the current exchange rate makes this a less an expensive option too. While most of these factors are well out of hands of WNW, it will affect their bottom line to a small degree because I am now way more selective about the kits I'll buy.
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It is not the obsession with the Dr.1 so much as the possibility of getting a DETAILED, accurate large scale F.1. Specifically F103/17. I would immediately buy at least one Dr.1/F.1 Wingnut Wings kit. Say what you will about Richthofen and the "tired" all red triplane, he was the most important and significant aviator of WWI and I would certainly build one of his Dr.1s. However, to my mind, Werner Voss's September evening fight with 56 Squadron proves he was the most skilled, daring and fearless dog fighter of any war aviator. Period. His F103/17 deserves to be modeled by Wingnut Wings and I sincerely encourage them to do so.
Agreed.....
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I would also add I don't think there is a more immediately identifiable Aircraft than the Fokker Triplane. To me it may be the most iconic image of the first world war. I still to this day see kids kites emblazoned with the Red Triplane 100 years on...., lots of people will know the triplane immediately, not as many will know the difference between a spad and a camel, let alone anything beyond that....not poepl in the hobby, just people in general.....my two cents..