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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => WW1 Aircraft Information/Questions => Topic started by: James Reagan on June 12, 2021, 03:28:00 AM

Title: How much effort would it take for CSM to offer Nieuport 11 and 16 kits?
Post by: James Reagan on June 12, 2021, 03:28:00 AM
Would they be able to adapt some of their kit parts to make the early Nieuport fighters?  Their Nieuport 21 has a number of parts for the earlier aircraft.  The 11 alone was used by Britain, France, Belgium, Italy and Russia.  The 16 would require most 11 parts except engine and fuselage headrest.  They already have the appropriate Le Rhone engine in their later versions.

They might want to even consider offering their Le Rhone 9C engines as a separate kit. The above might be a quick way to generate additional cash.  I, for one, would purchase several kits.
Title: Re: How much effort would it take for CSM to offer Nieuport 11 and 16 kits?
Post by: RLWP on June 12, 2021, 04:20:35 AM
There's already the Amodel and Special Hobby kits of those aeroplanes, do we really need a third?

Richard

Title: Re: How much effort would it take for CSM to offer Nieuport 11 and 16 kits?
Post by: RAGIII on June 12, 2021, 05:51:22 AM
There's already the Amodel and Special Hobby kits of those aeroplanes, do we really need a third?

Richard

I have to agree about the need for another, although a state of the Art kit wouldn't hurt My feelings. As for the similarities between a 17 and the earlier versions I am not 100% certain. I think the rear fuselage "Might" be the same but from there they are totally different from forward fuselage to wings, not to mention a different interior. So I would guess it would take a completely New Mold. JMHO,
RAGIII
Title: Re: How much effort would it take for CSM to offer Nieuport 11 and 16 kits?
Post by: Alexis on June 12, 2021, 10:30:39 AM
Why not ask Copper State Models ....only saying .....

 This is something that no here can answer really .


Alexis
Title: Re: How much effort would it take for CSM to offer Nieuport 11 and 16 kits?
Post by: macsporran on June 12, 2021, 05:49:28 PM
I always wondered why Roden didn't extend their Nieuport line to include a 17, surely the most popular? But presumably they felt the old Hobbycraft/Italeri/Academy kit had it covered and that too much retooling of ailerons, fuselage, etc would not be repaid in sales. Maybe Wingnuts rained on their parade before the decision was made, of course.
Sandy
Title: Re: How much effort would it take for CSM to offer Nieuport 11 and 16 kits?
Post by: James Reagan on June 13, 2021, 03:54:44 AM
A Nieuport 11 and 16 done to Copper State Models (CSM) standard  would be nice.  They are a small company and sales generate growth.  I recall some earlier CSM comments that the 1/35 scale WW1 vehicles were generating more revenue and one of the reasons for delaying the Hansa Brandenberg D1.

I've always been a fan  of Nieuport aircraft hence my interest. I plan to add , apart from the Caudron),their pending releases.  I wish they offered their Le Rhone 9C engine as a separate kit.
Title: Re: How much effort would it take for CSM to offer Nieuport 11 and 16 kits?
Post by: Borsos on June 13, 2021, 04:30:10 AM
A Nieuport 11 and 16 done to Copper State Models (CSM) standard  would be nice.  They are a small company and sales generate growth.  I recall some earlier CSM comments that the 1/35 scale WW1 vehicles were generating more revenue and one of the reasons for delaying the Hansa Brandenberg D1.

I've always been a fan  of Nieuport aircraft hence my interest. I plan to add , apart from the Caudron),their pending releases.  I wish they offered their Le Rhone 9C engine as a separate kit.

I am also a fan of the Nieuport biplanes, but I personally would be more happy if a manufacturer invests his resources in releasing an airplane in model form that wasn’t offered as a kit at all before. We urgently need these great 1/48 scale CSM kits upscaled to 1:32 especially the Caudron G. IV.  :) (that’s my ceterum censeo)
And let’s remember that many of the main players of wwi aviation, like Farmans and Voisins aren‘t ‚kitted‘ at all yet. There’s an original Voisin 8 in Washington so all its details are available…
Regarding the leRhone, what about contacting Edgar from CSM directly? He is a very friendly guy who listens to the needs of us modellers.

Andreas
Title: Re: How much effort would it take for CSM to offer Nieuport 11 and 16 kits?
Post by: WD on June 13, 2021, 09:23:46 AM
Or scaled down to 1/72nd. :)  I agree, the Farmans and Voisins were major players. It'd be like not having B-25's or Ju-88's not kitted.

WD
Title: Re: How much effort would it take for CSM to offer Nieuport 11 and 16 kits?
Post by: RLWP on June 13, 2021, 08:00:15 PM
I am also a fan of Nieuports, should CSM decide to build another variant I’d prefer them to do the two seaters, like the 12

Richard
Title: Re: How much effort would it take for CSM to offer Nieuport 11 and 16 kits?
Post by: Borsos on June 13, 2021, 11:54:43 PM
I am also a fan of Nieuports, should CSM decide to build another variant I’d prefer them to do the two seaters, like the 12

Richard

Very well said!
Title: Re: How much effort would it take for CSM to offer Nieuport 11 and 16 kits?
Post by: WD on June 14, 2021, 08:47:47 PM
Why not ask Copper State Models ....only saying .....

 This is something that no here can answer really .


Alexis

What Alexis said. They're the only ones is a position to answer this question.

WD
Title: Re: How much effort would it take for CSM to offer Nieuport 11 and 16 kits?
Post by: James Reagan on June 18, 2021, 05:49:45 AM
Thanks for all the information about the differences in the Nieuport 11 and the Nieuport 21. It is not just a different wing. I did not know of the fuselage differences. My solution is to build the Special Hobby kit of both the 11 and 16 models. The CSM Nieuport 21 will make an excellent  Russian version.