I suppose I should, because the added pressure of a group build may be what I need to actually FINISH something, and start my first build log. No pressure, none at all. Oh, BTW, did I say that I am INCREADABLY crap with computers and it takes me all day to post one picture? I hope it has a long time frame. Regards, Pete in RI. ps, what would you all like to see? SE5a or Dr1? (Voss).