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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Scratch builds => Topic started by: Lozenge on June 01, 2019, 10:04:00 AM
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Hello to all of you...
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I had to shift this blogs theme today back to 1915/16 towards the G.II Type due to my decision to buy a pair of Mercedes D.III engines and RedBaron thankfully told me. :)
Due to honesty I only changed the title and keep my rest of the error in here. So the swinging is only in the title to make the finding easyer. And showing the real development of the project to allyou of you. =Edit off=
As it doesn't make sence to me to buy the i.m.h.o. overpriced HighTec kit by nearly $150 (half of the WNW kit with all the extra) I started to think about a scratch project of the beautyful A.E.G. G.IV. . Due to this I ordered a pair of Mercedes D.III/IIIa engines casted by Vector Resin.
So I'm looking for more detailed planes for this plane and for some help from all the other scratch builders. I'm dreaming of some compound kind of building of
- cyan-glue strengthed balsa wood
- Evergreen plastic
- wire
- Lozenge-decals
- odds & ends of older misfortunated kits
On monday I'm going to print the planes and resize them to 1/48 and mirrowing a lot at the copyshop.
Did I forgot anything?
Thanks for your intrest,
Don't be too stingy with criticism - how else I should learn something?
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Here the plans I figured them out at the web several month ago:
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Here the Nightbombers camo sheme I like & want so much for my build. But are my plans detailed enough?
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Thanks, Red Baron! So it would be at least an A.E.G. G.II...
Go back to start - and edit your title! Fund older literature and write to the Allgemeine Elektrizitäts Gesellschaft for some drawings. But the good thing is, that development of the AEG G.I and G.II was powered by 150PS/112kW Mercedes Benz D.III engines. The A.E.G. G.II was an up arnmed version with a 200kg bombload. Armed now with three machine-guns. A number of these aircraft had an extra vertical tail surface on each side of the fin and rudder. But only some few were used operationally.
So I make my enlistment of friend & foe arguments to start or to stop:
What do I loose?
- a plenty of pictures
- my beloved Lozenge camo wasn't in use at 1915/16
- the reseachfree, reachable and cheap plans of the G.IV
And what do I win by Red Barons interceprion?
+ an outstanding rare prototype
+ deeper and more criminalistic researchwork
+ buying new literature
+ D.III-engines were uncovered
+ an intersting tripple side-rudder
So now an adventure is calling me not grapping some plans and starting a build... it comes closer to shipmodelbuilding now. Engines standing uncovered in a tiny tubeconstruction is something I never though about this kind of build would hit me.
Now I am starting to reorganize my abilitys.
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deeper and more criminalistic researchwork
By this I found the :o triplane bomber :o L.V.G. G.III also known after the designer as "Schütte-Lanz G.V" a pair of Maybach Mb. IV made 240hp/180kW each - only one was build... ...and lead us not into temptation ;)
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Found some plans on airwar.ru - hmmm a first slight track or trap?
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...and the proof of the uncoiled engines - not in the workshop.
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Figured out there are someMercedes Benz D.IV engines by Karaya... ;D
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Following with interest
Terri
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I just noticed this thread and will be following along!
RAGIII
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Thanks for you intrest, Terry & RagIII. the engines will come in some days and I am going to leaf trough my pile of material to get the right odds. ???
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Fantastic! I will be following along.
Mark
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An interesting research process. Watching the Detective.
Steve
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Let's go to the copyshop:
Spannweite 18.350mm / 48 =
382,3mm
Edfit: And here the todays result the three side view (without the mirrowed drawings) and the three vertical rudder topviews. A glas of Scotch and the planing may take start. ;D
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Here our first problem aroses from out the azur main...
I have got one and a half topviews - the diagonal half bottom half top view of the three side drawing and the three rudder plan. The tree sides view gives us a pair of big hatches - the ingle topview gives some cirular round hatches. So what is worng here? Is it an early and late version?My reference picture of an A.E,G, K.I (later G.I) shows a single side rudder at the tail. And the 26/15 is a G.II with round hatches and a three rudder tail. Please correct me if I do use the worng tremica technica.
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And the 26/15 is a G.II with round hatches and a three rudder tail.
I am still awaiting some money for the book of the A.E.G. Aircraft of WWI.
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Hello Red Baron, the theme is this is a A.E.G. G.II since you told me my bought engeanies (MB D.III)were not fitting tne G.IV. So I changed my plans and dropped the idea idea of some G.IV buildung,too
So the hatches differences are not. To the G.II. But it is helpfull.
But later on a G.IV wil be made some times later,too.
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Hello Red Baron.
As I couldn't figure out differences betwenn the Mercedes and Benz labled D.III engines at KARAYA, COPPER STATE and RODEN - please tell me/us what in detail you do mean.
The BENZ D.IV Engine -you are so right - und is very much standing appart due to his V-shaped exhause-tubes and the surplus of a pair of cylinders.
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No seems to make an aftermarket 1/48 Benz BzIII. How about it Copper State, Taurus, Small Stuff, or Karaya?
I really like that photo of the LVG G.III but could not find a three view drawing of it anywhere.
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Thanks a lot Red Baron - we are so used in the post 1926 fusions company that we forget that they were seperatated before.
No seems to make an aftermarket 1/48 Benz BzIII. How about it Copper State, Taurus, Small Stuff, or Karaya?
I really like that photo of the LVG G.III but could not find a three view drawing of it anywhere.
Hello Berman,
...about NorthStar I got the Merdeces D.III from VectorResin in 1/48
...about Karaya I ordered the Benz D. IV engine also scaled in 1/48
Taurus gives us a plenty of Mercedes D.III superdetailing sets but no Benz, too.
But none of the three companies offers a Bz.III - so I'm in trouble.... :-[
What can I do?
The Roland D.VI a & b kits have got one of them... buying two expensive kits to lift the engine out and implement it into the A.E.G. G II?
Here the link to the A.E.G. G II (and G III):
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/bww1/aegg2.html
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Ans so I ordered the Techmod Friederichshafen FF33-E in German colours for two bucks more than the polisch one... hoping to be able to copy the engine and getting one floatplane more.
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Just found this: I am not sure what the differences in the Benz engines are but would it be possible to use a kit engine and modify it to the type that yuo want? If you intend to scratch build the rest of the model I would have thought that you could convert an existing engine kit.
Just a suggestion.
Stephen.