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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: oldalbie on August 02, 2014, 07:40:43 AM
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Looks like the Eduard SSW DIII won't be appearing until November this year. I was kind of looking forward to a newer re-do since I built one of the older ones. This is from their newsletter.
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Bummer, Gabe! I guess I'll have to spend the money I had set aside for it on another WNW kit. Copper State is planning on releasing their F.K.8 around that time (Telford!), so we're in for a treat at the end of the year.
Cheers,
Bud
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Yeah Bud, I was really hoping to get one a bit sooner too. The old kit was a pretty tough build to put it mildly! Perhaps by the end of the year we may have more goodies to look forward to. A Caudron or a Berg D.I would be at the top of my wish list. For some reason I've always liked the KUK plug uglies.
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I can wait until November , in no hurry for the release still have to finish off the one I'm working on now .
Terri
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Great News for me. Thank you. ;D
Martin
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I saw the pre-release sprues for the new SSW D.III
Today at the IPMS Nats show. I was told that will still need a little fine-tuning, however, they looked pretty darn fine to me.
Nothing at all like the original release. :)
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That is a plus :)
Terri
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From all reports it appears that this model is going to be a real winner.
Des.
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From all reports it appears that this model is going to be a real winner.
Des.
Des, if it's anything like their last Great War release, the Oeffag D.III, it'll be stunning. Well worth the wait.
Cheers,
Bud
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Here is a teaser ......
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and another ....
I will be getting two of these !!!! ;D
Lifted off of Aeroscale :-X
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Oooooh! That's tasty!
Cheers,
Bud
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Thanks Terri, that looks very impressive, pity we have to wait until Novenber.
Des.
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wow its not just another tease eduard is actually doing something for us. i for one will be supporting this kit.
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Oh Eduard, how could you when I'd got my mind fixed on moving from 1/48 to 1/32?
Thanks for the photos, Terri.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Thanks for posting Terri. This looks like a complete improvement over the earlier SSW.
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I am sure that is going to be a fantastic kit! Jealous that it will be 1/48 instead of 1/32 but as noted WNW is keeping the larger scale folks spoiled for choices....
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Your welcome guy's ;D
Terri
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Hi Terri,
many many years ago, I built the old Eduard SSW model.
I needed more putty like glue for it. ::)
But, the end result was not bad.
I built the SSW of Udet, red fuselage and white "LO" on each side.
Thanks for the pictures. ;)
Unfortunately for me the wrong scale.
Hello Mr. Jackson ................. can you hear my shouting ?? ??? ???
Servus
Bertl
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Your welcome guy's ;D
Terri
Thanks for leading the charge on your SSW DIII, Terri! I've no doubt that your commitment to detailing and building the original release was the karmic trigger that caused Eduard to tool up a new one; that's how the strings of the modeling universe work. I've taken credit for a few new releases myself; the Eduard Sopwith Camel (finally released about 2 months after I finished my Blue Max kit) and the Hasegawa 1/32nd Fw190A-8 (announced just three weeks after I finished the Rutman kit)
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I got to pick this (test-shot) build up today at the IPMS Nationals and look at it up close and from all angles. It will be a stunner! The gentleman from Eduard said it "isn't perfect yet" and he glued it together in a couple of hours before the show. The markings options were on display also - some really colorful schemes on the way…
Rob
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Thanks, Rob, and welcome to the forum!
Cheers,
Bud
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Thanks Rob for the info, from the sounds of things Eduard are going to make sure that this will be a perfect kit with excellent markings, November is not that far off.
Des.
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Let's hope that Eduard's new SSW DIII reaches the bar set in this scale by Gaspatch with their delightful Salmson trio.
Best wishes
Nigel
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A few close up's ,,,,because I like to be a tease !
I'm having hard time here , didn't think that someone could drool so much !!!
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:) Some really nice colourful schemes for the kit , wonder what the lozenge will look like ?
Terri
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Thanks very much Terri for all the close-up photos, this certainly looks like it is going to be one of their best models yet.
Des.
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Thanks Bud and Des (and Terri for the pics). I'm a WWI newbie and am enjoying this forum!
Rob
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Your welcome guy's ;D
Terri
Thanks for leading the charge on your SSW DIII, Terri! I've no doubt that your commitment to detailing and building the original release was the karmic trigger that caused Eduard to tool up a new one; that's how the strings of the modeling universe work. I've taken credit for a few new releases myself; the Eduard Sopwith Camel (finally released about 2 months after I finished my Blue Max kit) and the Hasegawa 1/32nd Fw190A-8 (announced just three weeks after I finished the Rutman kit)
This I can't take credit for . It was the whole spirit of the modeling community , which set the karma in motion 8)
Terri
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wow, seriously wow. the detail looks on par with modern technology. the rib tapes specifically i think will look nice under some aviattic lozenge. exciting times we live in. i wonder what the next 3 are ? they said they would release one great war subject per anniversary year.
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Is this Eduard re-entering the world of WWI a/c modeling? What a great looking model! The 1/48 Modeler/entusiast must be quite pleased with this release.
Thanks Terri
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can't wait for it, I was ready to order it in July and was dissapinteed that they posponed it, but it looks excellent and well I can wait, not like there isnothing to build ;)
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You are most welcome guy's . I know a lot of us have been waiting over a year now for this release , not much longer .....
Does look like it will have some very impressive scheme !
Terri
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i hope those who have an old eduard ssw d.iii in good shape were able to sell them. they used to go for good money when there was no other im 1/48 version now the market will plummet on the outdated version
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The picture Teri posted on the 10th is from the IPMS Convention and looks 99-1/2% ready for release. WNW has certainly raised the bar for all the other mfgs, I think this will be Eduard's Best Kit yet !
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Hello All
It's now listed in the November 2014 releases at the Eduard website. It is listed as kit 8256, a limited edition and priced at USD 34.95.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Hey Nigel ,
Do you have a link ? I went on Eduards site and couldn't find it any where .....
Terri
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Terri it is in the upcoming November realeses and in the October info.
Martin
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Hey Nigel ,
Do you have a link ? I went on Eduards site and couldn't find it any where .....
Terri
Hi Terri,
I received yesterday the monthly new releases email from Eduard. It adds that for a preliminary listing of the upcoming November releases, go to the Eduard store and scroll down the left sidebar, where you'll find the downloadable list as a pdf. Unfortunately, it provides no further detail than I gave.
The only question in my mind is how can match your build of the original release!!
Best wishes
Nigel
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found this link, not much new to look at with parts but it shows instructions and decal options.
http://www.detailscaleview.com/2014/09/new-eduard-148-ssw-diii-8256-and-other.html
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i found a pdf and it says there will be a set of fabric seatbelts available as well as that resin/brassin engine and spandaus. looks like they are accessorizing well for this release. i remember them saying a ssw d.iv too a while back. so is that a diff kit or did they drop that idea?
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Excellent find, Scott! Very cool stuff. Looks to be an outstanding kit. Thanks for posting. With regard to the D.IV, that one may be released at a later date, but even if it isn't, I think we both have the Koster kit and we can easily use those wings and struts to do a simple conversion. The Koster resin wings are pretty nice and won't look too out of place on the Eduard fuselage.
Cheers,
Bud
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very true budrow. i do have a few kosters actually, diii and d.iv. its the hannover i still need to grab like the one you so excellently built last year.
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After seeing the pictures of the sneak preview I was fortunate to preorder this kit all I have to do now is wait till it is released :)
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robvd where do you preorder?
Martin
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looks like you can pre-order here: http://www.super-hobby.com/products/SSW-D.III-Limited-Edition.html?partner_id=9
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Oeps sorry Iforgot to mention the website where it was pre ordered.
The site given by Albatross is the correct one.
M y brother orderedit for me for my birthday in december so I am very blessed
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Preorderd yesterday with belts, engine and mg.
Martin
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I have it preordered too with guns. I still have Karaya`s resin engine and the seatbelts are pricey - you can buy the whole set of HGW seatbelts for that ;) Can`t wait.
I hope that they will release a Hannover CL III model again too
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I have it preordered too with guns. I still have Karaya`s resin engine and the seatbelts are pricey - you can buy the whole set of HGW seatbelts for that ;) Can`t wait.
I hope that they will release a Hannover CL III model again too
Hi Filip,
I am afraid I have bad news regarding to WWI kits by Eduard. There seem to be no remarks on Eduard's interest on introducing further WWI aircraft, SSW D.III is most probably just a special issue linked to 100 years WWI anniversary. :(
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I suppose it depends on just how many SSW DIIIs they sell, however they did say in one of their newsletters that they plan to release one WWI kit each year for the next four years, for every year of the Great War. So fingers crossed ;)
Tony.
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eduard said they have plans to release 4 new ww1 models, one each at the 100th anniversary of each year. i dont remember where i read it but im sure it was online somewhere.
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eduard said they have plans to release 4 new ww1 models, one each at the 100th anniversary of each year. i dont remember where i read it but im sure it was online somewhere.
Mr Sulc said exactly this in one of the Eduard INFO magazines at the start of this year, or maybe the end of last year. All new tools.
Rob
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Getting closer !
http://www.eduard.com/sswdiii/?utm_source=HS&utm_medium=banner&utm_content=468x73%231&utm_campaign=8256-EN (http://www.eduard.com/sswdiii/?utm_source=HS&utm_medium=banner&utm_content=468x73%231&utm_campaign=8256-EN)
Terri
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Very tasty looking indeed!
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Looking at the engine supplied with the kit, I would say that Eduard have deliberately made it over simplified so that they can sell the brassin replacement. Or am I just getting cynical about the way the modern marketing mind works these days. Hopefully someone can prove me wrong. The engine on the original kit looks better than the one supplied as standard.! :-\
Cheers
Andrew
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Looking at the engine supplied with the kit, I would say that Eduard have deliberately made it over simplified so that they can sell the brassin replacement. Or am I just getting cynical about the way the modern marketing mind works these days. Hopefully someone can prove me wrong. The engine on the original kit looks better than the one supplied as standard.! :-\
Cheers
Andrew
Got to agree, those cylinder fins look extremely heavy for a 2014 kit.
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why not just do a versionthat includes everything instead of making you by a bunch of other things.
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Hi Albatros1234
Just so that they can get as much money out the customer as possible. I work in the music buisness, in the old days you would build a guitar amp and then make a price on how much it costs after you made it. Now it's how expensive can we make the item and how little can we spend on producing it. Ie. maximum profit. No one gives a toss about quality and value for money any more, except wingnutwings I reckon Peter Jackson comes out of my era where things were properly made and built to last. Moan over!
Cheers
Andrew
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I agree with everything you guys are saying, however I gotta say I'm pleased as hell that Eduard is even doing this kit at all. It was a long struggle convincing them that we really could use a re-pop of the old kit. That said, I'll probably use the Karaya engine and Gaspatch guns just out of spite. Then again, part of me feels that if we don't support this kit and all it's attendant goodies, the likelihood of seeing another WWI release in the future is pretty slim. Jeez! Another moral dilemma in the modeling world.
Cheers,
Bud
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Hey Bud. I'm with you on this one too. I'll get the kit because I had a real struggle building the original so I'm glad to see a re-do on this one. Another off putting thing are the loz decals, good thing I've got spare Micro Sculpt on hand.
Now what Eduard needs to do is correct the Albatros undercarriage, etc. for the venerable DV/Va kit.
Gabe
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Yeah, Gabe, even though the Eduard Albatros kits aren't half bad, it would be nice to see 'em upgraded to WNW level.
Cheers,
Bud
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Maybe we should wait for Lukasz at Taurus models and Wojtek Fajga to make a complete model so that we can all die happy !!
Cheers
Andrew
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It would be nice to see an upgrade of the Albies to put them in line with the excellent Oeffag offering. In addition to the landing gear being too short, all the struts are overscale thick and the tailplane/fuselage joint is wrong. However, it would also be nice to see something new, wouldn't it?
Drew
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I suspect that those modelers who like the aircraft but aren't accuracy minded will be quite happy with the engine and the lozenge decals. They will most likely appreciate the value overall since the street prices for Eduard's models are very reasonable and they give you a lot of modeling value for your buck. I also like Eduard's commitment to fine detail for those of us who want to go to the effort to include that in a build. Their Brassin line is outstanding. And, like most quality details, costs more.
I don't see much to complain about. It's kind of like spending more to upgrade one of my Wingnut Wings engines with one of the Taurus resin kits or parts. It's a choice, and modeling companies are definitely in business to make a profit, and, yes, I suspect Wingnuts Wings is too.
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i agree eindecker, i just kinda meant why doesnt eduard do a version with all the brassin goodies in one box then a weekend edition, instead its like they are doing a profipack which is minus decent engine and guns. it seems as if they deliberately oversimplified the engine detail to make it unsatisfactory and force you to buy the upgraded motor. idk, i am sure i will buy it all. weve been emailing and posting requests for years and they are finally doing something about it. i will support them.
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The reason the Eduard D.V/D.Va rear fuselage is off is because they decided to share the same D.III horizontal stabilizer with these kits. Also wheels too small and Mercedes engine 3mm too short.
I will buy the new Siemens Schuckert to encourage Eduard to continue its "new" WWI line of kits. I am also planning to get the new 1/48 Siemens Schuckert glider torpedo bomb from Grey Matter Figures. tim@greymatterfigures for more info.
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I just received the Siemens i for one is very pleased with it of course ther will be some points that could be better but i am very happy with it maybe a new engine and guns and that is it for me.
What resin engine do you recommend I will add the guns from Master models unless ther are better examples.
:)
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Hi Guys,
Great to see this new SSW from Eduard although I expected it to be on a par with their previous WWI efforts like the Camel, OEF, Bristol
etc., and it's rather a shame that it isn't. The wing rib detail is surprisingly heavy-we know they can do this sort of thing so much better. The indication is that a SSW D.IV will follow-no surprise there; still it's a nice change to see some new 1:48 scale kits these days.
Cheers,
Ray R.
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Hi,
I just ordered mine. The overtrees version of the kit, the Brassin guns and engine, which come with all the PE I'd need anyway.
Don't need the full kit, as I can do without the PE, and I expect Pheon decals any day now, along with some Gaspatch turnbuckles.
I got my bunny fighter discount and the Halloween discount, so I think my order was just over $33 plus shipping.
Now for the Lozenge!
Rob.
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i just checked and to get the profipack,brassin guns and engine shipped its $83.85, thats a wnw kit. i m still going to get it eventually just didnt figure it would add up that much.
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Just happy to see Eduard release a WWI subject. Looks pretty good to me. Have 2 on order. Are the guns incorrect ? The pictures of the parts on the sprue don't look that bad to me for molded parts. Have the flash surpressor evident and have pe barrels and sights.
Eduard also looks like the Dr.1 is being issued in weekend form with MvR makings in Dec.
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Eduard also looks like the Dr.1 is being issued in weekend form with MvR makings in Dec.
Weekend Edition, so it should be cheap.
Pheon has lots of decal options for DR.Is.
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mvr weekend edition, thats cool i believe the only decals for the 425/17 are in the "der rote flieger " release long oop.
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Eduard also looks like the Dr.1 is being issued in weekend form with MvR makings in Dec.
Weekend Edition, so it should be cheap.
Pheon has lots of decal options for DR.Is.
And plenty more waiting in the wings........ a full set for Jasta Boelcke for instance. Will be looking for pre-order support soon.
R
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And plenty more waiting in the wings........ a full set for Jasta Boelcke for instance. Will be looking for pre-order support soon.
YAY!
Cheers,
Bud
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I got mine too with the brassin guns. I must agree with the statement about the engine. If you compare its fin details to f.ex. generic Le Rhone /Oberursel engine, it looks pretty bad... I have Karaya`s engine so I think I`ll use it for this one. Other than this and the ribs the model looks pretty great!
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you can alaways tone down the ribs with a few swipes of the sanding stick. i will order mine first then see if my karaya engine fits the cowl and see if the guns are acceptable, although those brassin guns look sweet besides the jacket not being full length. i guess its to make assemby easier.
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you can alaways tone down the ribs with a few swipes of the sanding stick.
On the wings yeah, but the rudder and elevator, from what I can see in photos, had no tapes. I've sanded mine off completely.
Hope that's right :-\
Cheers,
Tony.
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Howdy,
Got mine yesterday. One thing I noticed was the instructions. They not only give a paint number, they name the color as well. How long have they been doing that? I like it!
Probably won't get to building for awhile, got 7 1/72 kits on the table right now. Trying to clear the stash.
Brian James Riedel
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you can alaways tone down the ribs with a few swipes of the sanding stick.
On the wings yeah, but the rudder and elevator, from what I can see in photos, had no tapes. I've sanded mine off completely.
Hope that's right :-\
Cheers,
Tony.
Tony , elevator yes , rudder no tapes .
Terri
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One thing I will say about the kit . The lozenge SUCKS !
Terri
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One thing I will say about the kit . The lozenge SUCKS !
Terri
Thank God for Aviattic, eh?
Cheers,
Bud
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Ture that Bud ;)
Aviattic highly recommend :)
Terri
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Terri I'm with you on that Eduard lozenge. One would think that after all the research that has been done this is one thing that shouldn't be gotten wrong. The same thing was true when they first did the Albatros DV/a. That's when I discovered Americals. Now there are plenty more alternatives, thank goodness.
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i have to say i will be using aviattic on mine, that said even though i dont have the kit yet it seems from looking at photos they did try somewhat to do better on the lozenge. anyone who has old eduard kits like the hannover, fokker d.vi etc that stuff was horrid. it seemed like 5 color got somewhat better in the albatros dr.1 kit reminding me of the stuff that comes in special hobby pfalz d.xii kits. then it got way worse when they did the fokker d.vii dual combos.included in the forementioned d.vii kits, the 4 color, although the colors were in the wrong places, was not too too terrible but the 5 color although having a 5 color pattern the colors were taken from the 4 color palette which looks really really wrong. this new stuff in the siemens kit although the colors seem off they seem better than the fokker d.vii 5 color and it also looks like they tryed to give a faded effect ala aviattic or wood and wire. no fabric texture mind you, but it looks as though they tryed. and from what ive read its extremely hard to get realistic accurate colors on such a screen printed decal especially if you dont do 10 years of research like richard did collecting actual samples etc. oh well moot point as i wont be using them.just my 2 cents
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One thing I will say about the kit . The lozenge SUCKS !
Terri
A bit harsh Terri, it does make excellent templates for the Aviattic loz. ;)
Tony.
(http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x26/tonys09/DSC01085_zps7dab6594.jpg) (http://s182.photobucket.com/user/tonys09/media/DSC01085_zps7dab6594.jpg.html)
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A bit harsh , that's the only thing they can be used for Tony ;)
Guy's , I highly recommend Aviattic 45 degree sheets for this kit or any other kit , they are awesome !
Terri
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Windsocks advises 5 color lozenges.
As we sure that they are not four color lozenges? The more I try to count colors on the (poor) photos the more I do not find the fifth color, but t may bethat my eyes are blinkink, with so many releases...
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Has anyone tried the Karaya engine to see if it fits? Someday I'm going to measure the dimensions of all the aftermarket engines and post a list for easy reference. I have yet to find one that will fit in any unaltered kit engine compartment/cowl.
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the verdict is in on the karaya engine. does not fit as is. the kit engine is much smaller than the karaya engine which will not fit in the new eduard cowl. can you thin the cowl to the point where it would fit? probably but lot of work ahead. then theres that engine mount cross piece that fits in the cowl to contend with. i'm thinking i will have to give in and buy the brassin engine. i will however use guitar string for pushrods as the pe ones will look flat i think. eduard got me on this one. i got the kit then saw the oversimplified guns and engine and i have decided to just get the brassin parts. im also getting the fabric belts so this is going to be a costly 1/48 kit once i factor in aviattic lozenge.oh well we got a new tool 1/48 kit which is pretty nice.
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Thanks for the update. Now, what to do with my Karaya engines. I may have to pick up the Brassin stuff too.
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i got the kit then saw the oversimplified guns and engine and i have decided to just get the brassin parts.
Do not buy brassin spandaus. I've got this, and in my opinion it's some king of joke :/ there's only a part of etched coolers, rest is FULL in resin. Better idea is a using of the OLDEST Eduard set for Spandaus (new ones are inaccurate), or coolers from old SSW.
From the other hand brassin SH engine is really good! Strange...
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What is about your German guns in 1:48?
Martin
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For those who want to detail the Siemens Schuckert, I will make available just the B.E.A.M common Fokker D.VII large photoetch sheet. This contains fretted machine gun jackets, three types of gunsights, cocking mechanisms, cocking handles, seatbelts, shoulder harness, separate seatbelt anad shoulder harness buckles & and attachments if you choose to use masking tape for the belt material, anemometer, mirror & bracket, multi piece throttle quadrant, laminated control horns that are upper and lower one piece for slotting into the control surface instead of just spot cementing tiny triangles, various grommets, interior turnbuckles, and a few other interior parts. $8 USD including postage worldwide. Contact me at [email protected] Thanks, Barry
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What is about your German guns in 1:48?
Martin
My ones were a early IMG 08, not IMG08/15...
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i did notice the way that eduard did not extend the cooling jacket all the way.pretty lame but probably done to mae em easy to build. i think i will use other pe jackets and graft them on. the gun housings themselves look quite good offering both type cocking mechanisms and such.
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Of course the Eduard decals have a good use, they will make excellent templates to lay over the Aviattic lozenge to cut the correct shape!
Dave
i have to say i will be using aviattic on mine, that said even though i dont have the kit yet it seems from looking at photos they did try somewhat to do better on the lozenge. anyone who has old eduard kits like the hannover, fokker d.vi etc that stuff was horrid. it seemed like 5 color got somewhat better in the albatros dr.1 kit reminding me of the stuff that comes in special hobby pfalz d.xii kits. then it got way worse when they did the fokker d.vii dual combos.included in the forementioned d.vii kits, the 4 color, although the colors were in the wrong places, was not too too terrible but the 5 color although having a 5 color pattern the colors were taken from the 4 color palette which looks really really wrong. this new stuff in the siemens kit although the colors seem off they seem better than the fokker d.vii 5 color and it also looks like they tryed to give a faded effect ala aviattic or wood and wire. no fabric texture mind you, but it looks as though they tryed. and from what ive read its extremely hard to get realistic accurate colors on such a screen printed decal especially if you dont do 10 years of research like richard did collecting actual samples etc. oh well moot point as i wont be using them.just my 2 cents
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Just saw in the Eduard flyer that they are releasing a "Weekend Edition" of the SSW D.III in April. Wonder if they will have new lozenge?
Mike
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doubt it ,weekend editions usually have very minimal decals. they usually find a scheme that dose not use it. on the fokker d.vii they did the all white d.viif and on the e.v they did that bumblebee looking scheme. i bet they do a swiss one in all silver or black with red crosses.
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Richard , just in time for this !
Eduard have released their weekend edition of this kit
http://www.eduard.com/store/eduard/plastic-kits/weekend-edition/aircraft/1-48/ssw-d-iii-1-48.html?utm_source=eshop&utm_medium=banner&utm_content=473x248%231&utm_campaign=8484-EN (http://www.eduard.com/store/eduard/plastic-kits/weekend-edition/aircraft/1-48/ssw-d-iii-1-48.html?utm_source=eshop&utm_medium=banner&utm_content=473x248%231&utm_campaign=8484-EN)
Terri