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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: Kalt on November 22, 2014, 03:55:52 AM
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This is real?
http://www.network54.com/Forum/149674/message/1416584111/Wingnuts+psyched+us+all+out-+the+real+surprise+is+a+FELIXSTOWE+F.2A!!!
If it is real.....
I already know what I want for christmas.....
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it is real!
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Excellent!!!....but I will need an extra job... :-\
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Dreams DO come true! ;D
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So 36"wingspan...what about length...46'...what's that in 1/32??
And what will keep the wings from sagging over time??
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17.5" Length
Hoping it has a metal spar like the W29 came with
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Rigging, Michael, rigging prevents the wings from sagging over time :P
Greetings from Bavaria to NY
Servus
Bertl
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A huge, incredibly fragile dust collector. I still want one :)
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Well thats exciting. Will have to save some pennies :)
James
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No
No
No
NoNo
Oh go on then.....
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Dreams do come true, yes, but what a beast of a model. How could I not after building this one already?
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Felixstowe/Sep10c.jpg)
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Rigging, Michael, rigging prevents the wings from sagging over time :P
Greetings from Bavaria to NY
Servus
Bertl
You mean sort of like a brassiere...oder Busenhalter?
Ach...the things one can learn on a WWI website.....
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"Removable outer wing panels for easier storage"
Interesting to see how this will be pulled off considering the rigging?
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WNW site as coming soon!
Ken :)
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I've just checked and Ena says I have not died and gone to modelling heaven. However, she does say that I have been acting like a jabbering idiot for the last half hour.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Jamo, that's a true beauty, sorry I haven't seen it before; the Roden kit?
What did you use for the water? How easy is it to work? And the wake?
Mark
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Hi,
both Surprise Christmas releases on coming soon mode
8)
cheers from Bahamas
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Jamo, that's a true beauty, sorry I haven't seen it before; the Roden kit?
What did you use for the water? How easy is it to work? And the wake?
Mark
Thanks Mark. I will start a separate thread on this, rather than sidetrack on this thread ;)
Cheers
James
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For those who can not fit a thirty six inch model in their display case, there will be the 1/48th scale Lone Star Models Felixstowe F.2a in both early and late versions. Write to Mike West at [email protected] for more details.
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"Removable outer wing panels for easier storage"
That's the clincher for me. Darn you WNW!!! I thought I could resist this one these ones, now I am certain I cannot. :D
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Ha, now that its actually present on the website I think I believe it now - so dang excited - this is one of my most wanted and one I never, ever thought we would see in 1/32nd scale let alone at WNW quality - times are good!!!
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I'm curious how much the kits will cost. ???
Servus
Bertl
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I'm curious how much the kits will cost. ???
Servus
Bertl
You're curious, Bertl, I'm frightened. Will we need to put the house up for sale?
Best wishes
Nigel
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;D
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You're curious, Bertl, I'm frightened. Will we need to put the house up for sale?
I bet it won't be any more expensive than a 1/32 Tamiya Corsair… think about that.
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I'll just wait until they issue the 'Dogfight Double' (Felixstowe and HB W29). Can't be any more painful than this is going to be? :o
Cheers,
GrahamB
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Thanks Mark. I will start a separate thread on this, rather than sidetrack on this thread ;)
Cheers
James
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Please let us know when you do, Jamo...this is gorgeous! I'd like to know more about it!
Michael
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A Felixstowe? I am just stunned. I'm also thinking I may need to get serious about divesting m'self of a bunch of 1/32 WWII airplane type stuff.
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Yeah, I was toying with the idea of getting the new Tamiya Corsair F4U-1 in 1/32 for Christmas, but that idea has just been superceded :)
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wow, neat airplane but its gonna be a pass for me. waaaay to big, like the gotha, dont want or need one of those. i'm just not a bomber guy. i love fighters and 2 seaters. i say to each his own, but even if i had the room, i just am not into big white elephants. just my opinion of course i thought i would voice a "counter" post for texture.i think this is too big even in 1/48. if, a big if a got a kit for this craft it would be a 1/72.
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Yes, it is big, but so are decent scale model ships. Early this year I decided to seriously reduce my kit stash. I never had that many compared to some of my friends and other people who posted about theirs on different forms. I like the size of the Wingnut Wings kits because they require patience and longer build times than the smaller, less detailed ones. Being focused primarily on WWI is also a factor. I like the historical connections and the rather obscure nature of the subject. I have also come to prefer the modeling itself more than having a yet another finished model to put on the shelf.
I think the detail in this particular model will be nothing short of astonishing, given the size of the aircraft in this scale and Wingnuts Wings attention to detail, engineering and fit. I am not really interested any longer and building small models, one after another, and putting them on display shelves. For this one and larger models I think part of the cost in displaying and protecting them will be in their individual display cases.
This is a bold and significant step for wingnut wings and I am grateful to see it. I will certainly be buying one and perhaps both.I will also be selling off the remains of my other smaller and less interesting model kits.
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wow, neat airplane but its gonna be a pass for me. waaaay to big, like the gotha, dont want or need one of those. i'm just not a bomber guy. i love fighters and 2 seaters. i say to each his own, but even if i had the room, i just am not into big white elephants. just my opinion of course i thought i would voice a "counter" post for texture.i think this is too big even in 1/48. if, a big if a got a kit for this craft it would be a 1/72.
I am with you. I already said the W12 would give me the chance to look at older releases I do not have, and this one just reinforces my lack of interest in the new Christmas stuff. So I clicked on the following to add to my cart:
1. Salmson
2. Se5a
3. DH2
RAGIII
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I'm also on the pass list. It is a massive model and it will be fun
to see the build logs to come, but way too big for me. Makes the
Rumpler I want look absolutely tiny! Having said all that, good
for you, Wingnuts for working way outside the box!
Cheers
Ernie :)
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Hmmmm....i passed the HK B-25, i passed the HK B-17, i will pas the forthcoming Lancaster................... ;D ;D ;D......but.....
I WILL NOT PASS THE FELIXSTOWE F.2a Early and Late, these two baby's where allready for a long time on my wish list, so, finnaly, soon i will get my hands on them. :P :P :P
Greetz
Danny
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I get what the "pass" folks are saying; I dabble in WW2 models and had picked up the 1/32 HK B-17G when that came out; extremely impressive kit but just seemed overwhelmingly big so I traded it away not long after receiving it.
I am much more interested in the Felix vs the B-17 though so I am highly doubtful I will have the same feeling when I have that in my hands - there will be space made for it one way or the other!
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It's definitely an interesting choice by WnW and to me it reinforces the notion that Sir Peter continues to release whatever appeals to him, regardless of the potential for sales. I like his style.
Cheers,
Chris
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wow, neat airplane but its gonna be a pass for me. waaaay to big, like the gotha, dont want or need one of those. i'm just not a bomber guy. i love fighters and 2 seaters. i say to each his own, but even if i had the room, i just am not into big white elephants. just my opinion of course i thought i would voice a "counter" post for texture.i think this is too big even in 1/48. if, a big if a got a kit for this craft it would be a 1/72.
Despite my enthusiasm this is probably going to be the case for me too. I do happen to like bombers, ergo why my stash is in 1/72nd, and add to that I have a Roden Felix in the stash I haven't built so there is some guilt on my part when thinking about the possibility of buying this. I resisted buyign any WNW kits until this last week.
On the other hand, I do so love to fly the Felixstowe on my Rise of Flight simulator, it's a joy. (The Gotha, not so much, but it is fun to bomb factories. We actually had a formation of six Gothas on a multi-player server once and carpet-bombed a factory, but that's another story.) 8)
Warren
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I think the announcement of the Felixstowe has surfaced an interesting aspect of modeling. Space. We all enjoy modeling for different reasons and the display of our finished work seems to be very important for some of us. I have limited display space, and tend to have four or five larger scale models in it at any time. I rotate them with a few others I have stored away from time to time, and sometimes set my newly made model out in the open. Dust is an issue, but I have a couple of very soft brushes I use to clean them up occasionally if needed.
Currently, I have three unbuilt large-scale models: HM Sherbourne (a plank-on-bulkhead ship), a 1:12 Williams F1 car and the Wingnut Wings Gotha. I plan to get a (or maybe both) Felixstowe, so I am obviously going to need some serious display space. This has confirmed my new direction in modeling: going for what I want that has historical value to me and the detail and quality to keep me going during long build processes. Putting together 1:72 and similar scaled kits has been fun, but they have lost their charm in view of the exquisite larger scale offerings we are seeing these days. I'm not a kid any longer. I'm dealing with some serious health issues and quality of life and modeling has become even more significant and important these days.
So, for those reasons, the new Felixstowe has come right on time.
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This has confirmed my new direction in modeling: going for what I want that has historical value to me and the detail and quality to keep me going during long build processes. Putting together 1:72 and similar scaled kits has been fun, but they have lost their charm in view of the exquisite larger scale offerings we are seeing these days. I'm not a kid any longer. I'm dealing with some serious health issues and quality of life and modeling has become even more significant and important these days.
So, for those reasons, the new Felixstowe has come right on time.
That. Right there. It's a hobby and past-time. If any of us are not enjoying what we're doing, no matter the scale or subject, then we need to step back and re-evaluate. I recently left a hobby/avocation that I had practiced off and on for over thirty years. Why? Multiple reasons, but most of all, it wasn't bringing me any joy or happiness any more. Life is far, far too short, and time is not a renewable or recyclable resource.
Warren
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Shame we don't have a 'Like' feature here, Warren and Eindecker, I am with your sentiments 100% guys
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Shame we don't have a 'Like' feature here, Warren and Eindecker, I am with your sentiments 100% guys
:) ;D
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Shame we don't have a 'Like' feature here, Warren and Eindecker, I am with your sentiments 100% guys
I was thinking the same for both the "like" feature and for the very important points made by Eindecker and WarrenD!
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"Removable outer wing panels for easier storage"
Interesting to see how this will be pulled off considering the rigging?
Yes very interesting. Perhaps it only applies to a partiality rigged model?
Regards
Russell
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The "like" thing has come up before -- Des even looked into seeing if SMF has such an option that his hosts could add. Unfortunately, no go.
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:)
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The "like" thing has come up before -- Des even looked into seeing if SMF has such an option that his hosts could add. Unfortunately, no go.
Well, I guess the "like" button is an example of how the Facing Book has permeated our society. There have certainly been times I wanted to "like" a post. After five years though, I killed off my account at the Book of Face, don't miss it a bit.
Warren
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"Removable outer wing panels for easier storage"
Interesting to see how this will be pulled off considering the rigging?
Yes very interesting. Perhaps it only applies to a partiality rigged model?
Regards
Russell
From the drawings on SeaWings, it looks like there's a production break just outboard of the engine nacelle struts. None of the wing strut rigging crosses that joint, although the aileron control cables and drag cables do.
http://www.seawings.co.uk/F2Amangal.htm (http://www.seawings.co.uk/F2Amangal.htm)
Peter
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what are the differences in the early and late felixstowe? just marking options or is the tailplane and /or aileron differences. maybe diff engines? i already confesses to being a pass but i saw a few of you want the early and late felixstowe. i was just curious on the advantage other than the shear pleasure we get from building a great kit of one of our favorite craft. i have multiples of certain kits like albatrosen and fokkers but things like se5a or or re8 i have one, not deeming the differences in look to be significant enuff to make building it more than once fun for me. this is of course my opinion.
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Considering all the talk regarding size, desirability and display constraints, perhaps these new additions will see a very limited run before they also sell out?
Andrew
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That is why I am buying one as soon as they are released, also an AEG early next year.
Des.
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As there is a WNW Gotha in the stash, and a few 1/12 cars both made and in the stash, it is time for a bigger cabinet and it will be based around the requirements for a Felixtowe. Luckily I have a very understanding SWMBO, who copes with full sized cars as well as planes and cars in a smaller scale.
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Looking at the rigging in Petero's hyperlink rigging the controls will be quite interesting i wonder how they've made the connections (PE like the fee??) it looks indeed like a partial rigging will be the payoff for the storage option. Can't wait to see the instructions btw the diagrams are quite enlightening thanks Petero
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"Removable outer wing panels for easier storage"
Interesting to see how this will be pulled off considering the rigging?
Yes very interesting. Perhaps it only applies to a partiality rigged model?
Regards
Russell
From the drawings on SeaWings, it looks like there's a production break just outboard of the engine nacelle struts. None of the wing strut rigging crosses that joint, although the aileron control cables and drag cables do.
http://www.seawings.co.uk/F2Amangal.htm (http://www.seawings.co.uk/F2Amangal.htm)
Peter
this is indeed interesting, how this is going to be solved. However, my engineering sense tells me, there must be the rigging break. The technical break in the wings which would not influence the main rigging would require a double strut assembly, which is not the case at Felixstowe.
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what are the differences in the early and late felixstowe? just marking options or is the tailplane and /or aileron differences. maybe diff engines? i already confesses to being a pass but i saw a few of you want the early and late felixstowe. i was just curious on the advantage other than the shear pleasure we get from building a great kit of one of our favorite craft. i have multiples of certain kits like albatrosen and fokkers but things like se5a or or re8 i have one, not deeming the differences in look to be significant enuff to make building it more than once fun for me. this is of course my opinion.
The difference which may mean most to us is the span difference resulting from balanced ailerons on the late version - 38cm, some 1.2cm in 32nd scale.
The different cockpit glass mentioned by Red Baron also results in (or is a result of) different profile of the hull top profile. Engines were the same - RR Eagle VIII, but the majority of early versions had the bent-up exhausts led behind the upper wing trailing edges, the late versions had just horizontal pipes slightly bent down. The rear fuselage in the late version had plywood cover instead of canvas. There was also a difference in the direction of propeller rotation - early boats had opposite outward, on late ones the props had the same direction.
There was also a late example with an additional gun station cut through the upper wing centre piece, it would be a nice option (it also had a fancy painted hull) in the kit, however I do not see it in the side profiles shown in the ad which started the whole Felixstowe buzz.
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I just got a nice email from Rowan about the Jasta 30 set and he is currently working on Felixstowe decal designs.
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The Americans operated the Felixstowe? I would be interested in seeing some of those schemes....Were they as wild as some of the others already shown?
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The Americans operated the Felixstowe? I would be interested in seeing some of those schemes....Were they as wild as some of the others already shown?
Check the Roden's website with the description of their 72nd models.
http://www.roden.eu/HTML/framemodels.htm
Generally, the American operated F.2As and Curtiss H.16 were not so colourful. After the WW1 US introduced yellow wings for marine a/c - there is one option for Roden's H.16 in this livery (BTW it was my first WW1 related model)
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I don't know if you guys know any of my modelling history, (no one prob cares that much either :^) but I have been doing 1/35 tanks for 20+ years and I have been totally captivated by these wingnut kits. The 1/32 scale was a very natural transition from 1/35th. You can put a ton of detail. Now I'm out of my mind waiting for the next wingnut release. Honestly I never even heard of this Felixstowe airplane until two weeks ago, now I can't wait to send my money to get one......I don't give a crap how big it is, I'll build it and figure out where to put it later, I don't want to remove any wings, I want to build it in it's full glory and display it...What am I gonna do, take the wings off and stick it in my closet with my shoes? The bigger the better, bring it awn!
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The "yellow-wing" scheme is quite striking, I must admit.
Warren
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The "yellow-wing" scheme is quite striking, I must admit.
Oh boy, now I'm hooked for sure. It's a done deal. Someone just has to issue a set of Yellow Wing markings for it.
Cheers,
Chris
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The "yellow-wing" scheme is quite striking, I must admit.
Warren
The "yellow-wing" scheme is quite striking, I must admit.
Oh boy, now I'm hooked for sure. It's a done deal. Someone just has to issue a set of Yellow Wing markings for it.
Cheers,
Chris
Watch out, lads. Curtiss H.16 was powered by two Liberty V12 engines, quite different than RR Eagle which most probably be in the both WNW kits.
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... And WNWs Liberty sprues are sold out....
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And don't forget the H16s had a different hull too.
I was not aware of it. Neither was Roden. Are you sure of this, Red?
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From Wiki:
"As built, the Model H-12s had 160 hp (118 kW) Curtiss V-X-X engines, but with these engines they were underpowered, so in Royal Naval Air Service (RNAS) service they were re-engined with the 275 hp (205 kW) Rolls-Royce Eagle I and then the 375 hp (280 kW) Eagle VIII.[3] Porte redesigned the H-12 with an improved hull; this design, the Felixstowe F.2, was produced and entered service. Some of the H-12s were later rebuilt with a hull similar to the F.2, these rebuilds being known as the Converted Large America. Later aircraft for the U.S. Navy received the Liberty engine (designated Curtiss H-12L)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss_Model_H
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Website is updated with the schemes and one model pic
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In the early version there are USAS markings, so I'll take it!
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now we can expect next pics - day by day (Felix early... Felix late...Felix early...??
I like tricks like that
8)
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All 10 markings options are up now
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What a mind blower :o
(http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/vCBAA8476/www/products/model_kitsets/32066/assembled_models/32066%201~32%20Felixstowe%20F.2a%20Late%20-%20interior%20(2).jpg)
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What a mind blower :o
The master of understatement ;)
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Looks familiar...
(http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/PrzemoLPP/felix/felix-31.jpg)
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I have just noticed WNW opted for the rounded wooden floor at the very bow. WD has a nice photo of one F.2A where the floor looks different, what I tried to replicate in my Roden's model (BTW - correcting Part PE element). I hope there will be an extensive archive photos section in the kit website, where some evidence for such a layout will be given.
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Oh how they love to tease us at WNW
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Oh how they love to tease us at WNW
Probably because we are so easily teased. ;) ;D
Cheers
Ernie :)
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They do not need to tease me anymore!
I can hardly bear the wait and count the days left till mid December and than, probably till early January, when my beloved, precious, dreamt of... copy of the Late F.2A comes under my roof! I have already designed a new special custom corner shelf covered with glass to house the model, I hope I will be able to complete successfully. I am not going to use the removable wing option, this model MUST be exposed in its full majestic glory.
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I'm hoping that WNW decides to print more Liberty engine sprues.
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@PrezemoL
Make your "new special custom corner shelf" big enough, perhaps there still a Handley Page V / 1500 :P
Servus
Bertl
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@PrezemoL
Make your "new special custom corner shelf" big enough, perhaps there still a Handley Page V / 1500 :P
Servus
Bertl
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Thanks for the heads up, Bertl. But this one does not appeal to me, at all.
Felixstowe is a different story...
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They do not need to tease me anymore!
I can hardly bear the wait and count the days left till mid December and than, probably till early January, when my beloved, precious, dreamt of... copy of the Late F.2A comes under my roof! I have already designed a new special custom corner shelf covered with glass to house the model, I hope I will be able to complete successfully. I am not going to use the removable wing option, this model MUST be exposed in its full majestic glory.
Prez you sound like Gollum, i hope it's not THAT addictive LOL
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They do not need to tease me anymore!
I can hardly bear the wait and count the days left till mid December and than, probably till early January, when my beloved, precious, dreamt of... copy of the Late F.2A comes under my roof! I have already designed a new special custom corner shelf covered with glass to house the model, I hope I will be able to complete successfully. I am not going to use the removable wing option, this model MUST be exposed in its full majestic glory.
Prez you sound like Gollum, i hope it's not THAT addictive LOL
It was meant to sound like Gollum :)
Even if it is addictive it is not harmful, except for your wallet ;D
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The aspect causing me to think creatively is how to reveal all that gorgeous interior detail. Either some sort of removeable panel or cut away, otherwise VERY little of it will be visible. Alternatively it would be fantastic to have some crew figures in action poses manning guns etc, that would be brilliant, like the fighting Fee crew from Wings. Then I could do a display with a HB-12 like the box covers, dogfight doubles . . . sight goes misty . . .
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You could always build it like this one. This is from a build that I followed on the Aerodrome back when they allowed modelling. Simply beautiful.
(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r249/sobrien_album/p1838016192-4_zpsa1eaac12.jpg) (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/sobrien_album/media/p1838016192-4_zpsa1eaac12.jpg.html)
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Wow, Sean! Who built this and what kit is it based on? Truly brilliant!
Cheers,
Bud
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1/72 Roden kit, heavily modified. I recall the builder was a Swiss chap who was a watch maker. Over at The 'Drome modelling section in the archives from before it went toxic
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I also remember this build, the internal details he added were absolutely incredible, you would need to be a watchmaker to work with such small parts.
Des.
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Yeah, I remember this guy now! I think Scalephantomphixer was is forum name. Brilliant artist.
Cheers,
Bud
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I think that's right, Bud....he did a diorama that had amazing figures and a great sense of humor, IIRC...sailor chasing a seagull with a broom...that kind of thing?? I went to his website once and there was a lot about cooking as well as model building.
Yes, an Artist!
MoS
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He also did a 1/32 Phantom with fully lit cockpit, and a 1/48 Swordfish on floats with carved 1/48 fish under the water.
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Wow Mike, that brings back memories, I do remember seeing the fully lit Phantom cockpit and was in complete awe of what I was seeing, I have tried to locate some of his work but have had no luck so far, maybe someone else knows where his Felixstowe is hiding.
Des.
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Wow Mike, that brings back memories, I do remember seeing the fully lit Phantom cockpit and was in complete awe of what I was seeing, I have tried to locate some of his work but have had no luck so far, maybe someone else knows where his Felixstowe is hiding.
Des.
I found his thread on the 'drome, but all of the photos are gone. Anyone else? Sure would love to see him join us here.
Cheers,
Bud
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I think the modeller's name is Peter Greutert. The diorama was built in two months. Have a look over here:
http://ateliermadman.com/maquettes-placeholder/maquettes-terminees/felixstowe-f2a/
(http://ateliermadman.zenfolio.com/img/s8/v83/p1662711521-4.jpg)
(http://ateliermadman.zenfolio.com/img/s11/v36/p411594017-4.jpg)
(http://ateliermadman.zenfolio.com/img/s9/v17/p535415887-4.jpg)
(http://ateliermadman.zenfolio.com/img/s1/v22/p262856791-4.jpg)
(http://ateliermadman.zenfolio.com/img/s1/v19/p25897165-4.jpg)
(http://ateliermadman.zenfolio.com/img/s3/v39/p31919317-4.jpg)
(http://ateliermadman.zenfolio.com/img/s1/v22/p297492701-4.jpg)
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http://ateliermadman.com/
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Jamo,
this diorama is fantastic but why oh why the thick rigging line :( Otherwise absolute stunner
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Yes, SsashoO, you hit the point. I was watching that build thread at The Aerodrome, too, as I was building my Felixstowe almost in parallel. I have used the Scalephantomphixer's build as a reference on many ocassions - he put many scratch details. Unfortunately, some were not documented, some were not to scale, like the rigging you mention. But it was his vision, a remarkable vision and the final effect is spectacular, to say the least.
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That's pretty damn awesome!!
Andrew
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Thanks James for finding and posting the images of this incredible build.
Des.
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Yes, thank you. A great bunch of activities going on all over, and the plane is good to look at as well.
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Man, I remember this one well. What an extraordinary dio. And in 1/72 scale to boot. Thanks for gathering the info and photos, Jamo.
Cheers,
Bud
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Scalephanthompixer! How could I forget about him!
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This announcement is grand news indeed. I anticipate they'll sell like hotcakes.
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I find this interesting; the cover of the Aeronaut book published in 2012. (Available on Amazon.)
(http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy162/FokkerDrI/References/GermanSeaplaneFightersred_zpsac9f6662.jpg)
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Same artist as the WNW kit boxes.
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Yep. I still find it interesting. Until today I didn't know that book even existed. (I'm kind of a book hound.)
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I remember that Felixstowe and build thread now once you posted the pics of the dio. A superb piece, and yes, it would be nice to have him here.
Warren
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I find this interesting; the cover of the Aeronaut book published in 2012. (Available on Amazon.)
(http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy162/FokkerDrI/References/GermanSeaplaneFightersred_zpsac9f6662.jpg)
This is an excellent book, and, of course, it covers both the W.12 and W.29. In addition to the print version on Amazon, Herris also sells the ebook version on his own website.
http://www.aeronautbooks.com/product/978-1-935881-51-3
It's a great alternative for those who prefer ebooks, or who are on a budget. I wish he had ebooks of all his titles!
Peter
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I find this interesting; the cover of the Aeronaut book published in 2012. (Available on Amazon.)
(http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/yy162/FokkerDrI/References/GermanSeaplaneFightersred_zpsac9f6662.jpg)
What I find more interesting is how the Wingnut Wings box art differs from the book cover. Same scene but the WNW version shows an earlier W.13 with the 150hp Benz engine and frontal radiator, vs the 160hp Mercedes engine with radiator on the top wing leading edge. I reckon this W.12 marking and some other colourful ones, will come out in the 'Late' boxing of the W.12, and personally I will wait for that version as I only plan to build one (if I build it at all)
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1012 shown in Steve Anderson's painting on the cover of the Jack Herris book is actually one of the pre-production W.12s with a Merc D.III and leading edge radiator. To build this, one would need to make a fair amount of modification to the nose, source/build a new radiator and a new engine, of course. Nevertheless, the markings are sufficiently colourful and different that I'm thinking about adding them to a set coming up for the short fuselage W.12, should anyone be tempted.....
Rowan
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It's not beyond the realms of fantasy to think WNW may release a Merc version or a later long fuselage type.
After all a lot of the basic work is already done (I suppose though you can say that about most of their releases ::) )
Still dreaming they might release an Albie DIII after all just the fuselage, the interior and undercarriage would be all they'd need to make. ;D
Keith
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l dreaming they might release an Albie DIII after all just the fuselage, the interior and undercarriage would be all they'd need to make. ;D
I'm pretty sure this will happen the second I start with my kit bash of the Roden D.III and WNW D.Va ...
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Bo, I think they call that "taking one for the team"....
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l dreaming they might release an Albie DIII after all just the fuselage, the interior and undercarriage would be all they'd need to make. ;D
I'm pretty sure this will happen the second I start with my kit bash of the Roden D.III and WNW D.Va ...
I've already tried that one with my (still unfinished) DIII OAW & D.Va... Maybe if I actually finish it they would? ::)
Keith
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l dreaming they might release an Albie DIII after all just the fuselage, the interior and undercarriage would be all they'd need to make. ;D
I'm pretty sure this will happen the second I start with my kit bash of the Roden D.III and WNW D.Va ...
Well, what are you waiting for? Get started right now. Everyone else can hardly wait. ;D
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Mike West has posted photos of his new 1/48th scale Felixstowe on the Hyperscale forum under the Plastic Pics section. The early and late versions of this kit should be available next month from Lone Star Models.
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Look at the size of the box compared to the Gotha (from the WNW website) :o
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Look at the size of the box compared to the Gotha (from the WNW website) :o
Oh wow. Actually looks like twice the size -- turn the Gotha box sideways ...
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Look at the size of the box compared to the Gotha (from the WNW website) :o
Oh wow. Actually looks like twice the size -- turn the Gotha box sideways ...
If you do, you could two of them in the Felixstowe box!
Cheers,
Bud
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At my build speed this will likely take six months and cost about $1 USD/day.
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This is an expensive hobby, gotta pay to play. I think their prices are very fair with the free shipping and all. The prices of the new Tamiya kits, or the Trumpeter are very expensive. I'll take one regardless of the price......
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I'm thinking either $169 or $199 USD.
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I think either of those prices would be more than fair....
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I see there is a comparison of box size against the Gotha box image up on the late model page now :o A Big bu@@er for sure.
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I see there is a comparison of box size against the Gotha box image up on the late model page now :o A Big bu@@er for sure.
The box is way bigger than I expected :) I have no idea fo rthe price, but it seems like this is oging to be a kit that WnW put a lot of effort into creating it. Can't wait to see the end result!
This leads to the second question on my mind - what am I going to do with my 1:72 Roden Felixstowe supplied with many extras? Probably build it but...
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Never mind the price, I am more and more thrilled. This will be a modelling feast in 2015.
Sasho, do build your Roden's Felixstowe. It is a lovely model, would be a shame to reject it. And even in 72 it is impressive!
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I'm probably going to build it as warm-up for WnW kit :) Few months ago I was wondering if I should start the Gotha or the Felixstowe in 1:72. What made my mind on the Gotha was the promise for night loz decals from Aviattic.
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If I were to charge a lot more for a kit than the previously most expensive kit I sold, I'd post a picture comparing the box sizes, showing the new kit is just huge.
Judging by the enormous box size, I'd guess at somewhere between $200-£250, possibly the latter when postage costs are considered.
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Yep, they are definitely softening us up. I think I'll buy one, not both.
Uh, yep. I think $249 might be a good guess...
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I'll go for $189 or $199, anything over 200 will be a "no go" for me.... unless I put both my LVG and RE 8 for sale ;D
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I don't know if box size correlates to much higher prices - it could be that the sprues are simply bigger for the way the wings are modelled?
Comparing parts count etc to the Gotha, I would expect the Felixstowe kits to be around the $170 -$180 mark, and not over $200.
UK/US exchange rates mean that I would need to spend over £100 to get this at the above prices, plus £30 ish for the import duty and "release fee"...
That's too much to expect my other half to spend on a present and difficult for me to justify for one particular model. I may need to make a special savings pot for this one....
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I still think it will be cheaper than any of LVG C.VI or H-B W.29 costs at second-hand market. ;)
Anyway, I love these boats so much that even a 300 USD price tag would not scare me off! Just imagine, how many goods will fit into that huge box. And not just the plastic, but there surely be wing spars and some ingenious idea for removable wings. Besides that - the relatively large PE fret, and just think of those decal sheets for dazzled schemes! Moreover, I have just recollected the complexity of Roden's versions of RR Eagle engines. I just cannot wait to see what will WNW kit include in this aspect! Knowing WNW, I am sure the contents of the twice-Gotha-sized box will be worth every cent of the price tag that we will see (soon, I hope, next Monday probably?)
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It's the decal sheets that are causing the larger box, I suspect.
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I still think it will be cheaper than any of LVG C.VI or H-B W.29 costs at second-hand market. ;)
... And just imagine the prices this lunker will command once it sells out!
I'm in, bring it on ;)
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I don't think anyone owns as many individual WNW kits than I do....but I just don't think I can pull the trigger and buy the Felixstowe. The combination of size and price is too much for me.
Tim
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I'm no historian, but would there be many other WWI aircraft that would be much bigger than this in 1:32?
Not including Zeppelins of course....
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Yeap, the mighty HP O/400 ..which will be the next year's christmas surprise!
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Much larger even than the HP O/400 would be any of the German R Planes...
Zeppelin Staaken R.VI wingspan: 42m
HP 0/400 wingspan : 31m
Felix wingspan: 29m
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I don't think anyone owns as many individual WNW kits than I do....
Really? At last count Justin had 52, I'm sure that total has increased since then :D
http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=4114.75
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I'll go for $189 or $199, anything over 200 will be a "no go" for me.... unless I put both my LVG and RE 8 for sale ;D
Pavlos, in any event, I think it would be extremely wise to unload your RE8...even wiser to sell it really dirt-cheap........TO ME!!
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I've been softening up SWMBO. I even asked her which she liked best, early or late. I'm in regardless of price.
Cheers,
Bud
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............... because you need space in your shelf for the Felixstowe's, Justin ;D
Servus
Bertl
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Don't forget that overseas buyers have a very good deal (assuming there is no customs or other duty to pay - I don't know the extent and frequency of this) on these WNW kits. I pay the same price even when the kit is handed to me over the counter by one of the WNW lads.
Don't know if I can or will stretch to a Felixstowe (price and storage) but of the larger types the forthcoming AEG is probably more appealing at the moment and more manageable.
Cheers,
GrahamB
'tiny' DH2 is giving me a run for my money anyhow.
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We almost always get hit with customs duties (20%) and the parcelforce "release fee" of around UK £8 on top. SO for a "basic" kit like a Pup, this is around £17 in total.
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The AEG is a "must-have" for me, the Felixstowe a "maybe"
Servus
Bertl
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The AEG is a "must-have" for me, the Felixstowe a "maybe"
Servus
Bertl
I'm the other way round Bertl - given that I mainly choose models by the look rather than any historic preference, the Felixstowe is worth saving my pennies for!
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It'll be interesting how many iterations of the AEG they release...
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I wait for the AEG instructions.
Martin
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I've been softening up SWMBO. I even asked her which she liked best, early or late. I'm in regardless of price.
Cheers,
Bud
What a blow hard....don't trust a word this guy says, gents....I've met his darling wife and there's no "obeying" about it.....he was following her around repeating, over and over, "how high, Honey"??". (If he hadn't been down on all fours it wouldn't have been so embarrassing.)
She is a gem and I'll bet she's ordering him BOTH F'stowes for Christmas!
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I'm not really proud of this...but I have 74 WNW kits....and I love every one! Unfortunately, never has so little been done with so much.
Tim
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I'm not really proud of this...but I have 74 WNW kits....and I love every one! Unfortunately, never has so little been done with so much.
Tim
We have a new hoarder champion!
Justin, pass the trophy :)
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I'm not really proud of this...but I have 74 WNW kits....and I love every one! Unfortunately, never has so little been done with so much.
Tim
We have a new hoarder champion!
Justin, pass the trophy :)
Hmm...I think that award goes to the guy on eBay who is currently selling his 14th WNW H-B W.29. :)
Somebody did some serious model speculation there! No wonder they sold out so quickly.
Eric
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Hmm...I think that award goes to the guy on eBay who is currently selling his 14th WNW H-B W.29. :)
Somebody did some serious model speculation there! No wonder they sold out so quickly.
Eric
Er sorry Forum Hoarder Champion
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It'll be interesting how many iterations of the AEG they release...
I'd like to se the version that was equipped with a 20mm cannon in an armoured nose turret.
Regards
Russell
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I see WNW have released an Early Felixstowe. Kit 32050. An interesting selection of colour schemes.
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Hmm...I think that award goes to the guy on eBay who is currently selling his 14th WNW H-B W.29. :)
Somebody did some serious model speculation there! No wonder they sold out so quickly.
Eric
Er sorry Forum Hoarder Champion
LOL! Indeed. At least I know my measly 20 WNW kits aren't even in the running for the title. :)
Eric
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Take a look at the box size comparison of the Felixstowe to the Gotha now up on the WNW website--it's TWICE as large! ;D. Oh yeah!!!
Cheers,
Bob
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Take a look at the box size comparison of the Felixstowe to the Gotha now up on the WNW website--it's TWICE as large! ;D. Oh yeah!!!
Cheers,
Bob
Poor postmen... :)
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Exactly twice...
I hope that the price is not twice as well...
They would sell much less
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A question to those who had their hands on Gotha box - is it of the same base size as the remaining kits and just higher, or is its base bigger?
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A question to those who had their hands on Gotha box - is it of the same base size as the remaining kits and just higher, or is its base bigger?
Yes, Gotha kit box is the same footprint as the regular box, with higher sides. I think the Felix box shares the Duelist box footprint, but I can't get to mine at the moment to confirm...
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Gotha box - 400mm x 270mm x 110mm high
Roland C.II - 365mm x 235mm x 70mm high
Fokker E.IV - 365mm x 235mm x 60mm high
Des.
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Thanks, Bo. :)
However, I remember once seeing a comparison photo of the Dualist box and one of the others, and my impression was not 2:1 ratio, as is the case with Felixstowe.
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Well, gentlemen, this is somehow contradictory... I suppose, you have just measured the boxes, Des. Thanks a lot!
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The duelist box measurements are essentially two single-sweater scout kits sitting side-by-side. So, whatever the measurements of, say two eindekker kits resting side by side would be.
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Gotha box - 400mm x 270mm x 110mm high
Roland C.II - 365mm x 235mm x 70mm high
Fokker E.IV - 365mm x 235mm x 60mm high
Des.
I stand corrected -- it is close to the same footprint, but yes, a little bigger in both dimensions but relatively much deeper. My impression of the duelist box is as Eric says -- two single seater boxes side to side and that's how it is stacked on my shelf :)
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Thanks again for the immediate response, gentlemen! Now I have the proper impression of what is awaiting us ;)
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New bits of information on WNW kits on their site! One more photo of interior and a lot of new archive photos (not shown in WD82!)
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Gotha box - 400mm x 270mm x 110mm high
Roland C.II - 365mm x 235mm x 70mm high
Fokker E.IV - 365mm x 235mm x 60mm high
Des.
I stand corrected -- it is close to the same footprint, but yes, a little bigger in both dimensions but relatively much deeper. My impression of the duelist box is as Eric says -- two single seater boxes side to side and that's how it is stacked on my shelf :)
Now let's wait those big boxes, 800 x 365 x 220 containing a pair of stakeen and a V1500
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New bits of information on WNW kits on their site! One more photo of interior and a lot of new archive photos (not shown in WD82!)
The interior looks really cool… love the petrol drums...
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Looking at those period pics I am leaning more towards the early version. Whilst I like very much the late kit options, I like more perhaps the early shape with the windscreens.
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If Wingnuts are keeping a check on what is being said on the forum regarding the price of the Felixstowe they must surely realise that anything over the $200 mark will be the death knell of the kit, a price of $199 or lower will ensure sales. Just a few dollars difference will make a huge difference to the sales of this kit, psychologically $2 will make or break the kit sales. When we think about it, the Gotha, which is a big model, sells for $149.00, the Felixstowe, which is a little larger but with fewer injected parts, could be sold for an extra $50 making it $199, under the magical $200 figure. Another question to be asked is what will be the price for the AEG, will this be the same as the Gotha or will they use this new kit as an excuse to raise the price. It will be a very interesting few weeks and I think many people will be surprised, lets hope the surprise goes our way.
Des.
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I hear what you are saying Des. And if I may, add my two peneth.
My gut feeling will be that the basic cost of the kit will not be that different than the Gotha, maybe $30-40 more. Tooling costs have by the by remained pretty flat the last few years. And once the moulds are cut you are talking a unit cost of pennies to injection mould a few hundred sprues. What will affect the tolling cost price is the parts count, which is lower for the Felixstowe, but that will be offset by the fact that some of the parts are bigger.
What will bump up the cost for WNW and ultimately us is the shipping costs. I seem to recall that WNW have in the past said that the rise in shipping costs has affected them, and that has been reflected in the cost of the later kits, and to a degree the speed at which they land in our home, once we order them. Looking at the size of the Felixstowe's box has me convinced it will be an expensive kit to ship.
The AEG will differ from the Felixstowe in one way, it will have (I'm assuming here.) a much more elaborate decal sheet. Dazzle after all is a lot easier to paint rather than night lozenge.
Still, I'm sure, as you are too that it, like its stablemates will represent stunning value for money. I doubt very much that it will be above $200, and suspect that it will come in at less than $180. Time will tell. Either way I'm having one.
Best,
Adrian.
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Lets hope we are both right Adrian, it will be a very merry Christmas if we are :) :)
Des.
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I don't see any reason not to believe the Felix kit(s) will be a great value, based on what?... um, every single kit they have released prior. $250 to me is not outrageous for such a substantial model ... Look at the HK B-17 ($340 + s&h) etc
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that they posted that pic of the boxes (Felix vs Gotha) gives me the impression the Felix will cost quite a lot more; just the fact that they put that up there seems to be trying to set some expectations on a significantly higher price (so buyers dont have sticker shock when it is announced?)
I had originally guessed $199 earlier in this thread - I will stick to that in hopes of a cheaper price but I would not be stunned at all to see it at $229 or even $249.
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$250 may not be an outrageous price for some people but to the majority of modelers it would be and would put them out of the running of ever owning a WNW Felixstowe. From all the comments that have been bandied around the $199 price tag appears to be the limit for a lot of people, and to me that would be a very fair price. What also has to be taken into consideration is the currency exchange rate, at present I would have to pay an extra $40 if it sold for $200 making my purchase price $240, then you also have to add any taxes and import duties imposed by some countries which makes the price even higher. I'm quite sure Wingnuts will take all of these factors into consideration.
Des.
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Heh, well let's just agree it won't be a casual purchase or one that most modellers will make many of. I remain confident that WNW will deliver an outstanding value to those who care to partake.
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Absolutely. Given the quality progression over the years, I can see the Felixstowe as a sort of pinnacle kit. IF WNW ever does a Vimy, 0/400, Staaken, or something similar, I'm sure they would be just an out of this world value for the dollar. I'd like to get one, but at any rate, seeing some on the show/contest tables next year will be a hoot.
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I wish they would just say something already. All this wild speculation is like listening to sports talk radio....It's all meaningless. at least here in Chicago. Lets get this ball rolling. I'm ready to place an order! The only question now is, will there be any more surprises :^)
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It's all just a bit of harmless fun, Wingnuts already know what the price of the kit will be, they are just playing their pathetic secrecy game again and having fun reading all the speculations, we will all know soon..
Des.
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It's all just a bit of harmless fun, Wingnuts already know what the price of the kit will be, they are just playing their pathetic secrecy game again and having fun reading all the speculations, we will all know soon..
Des.
I'm not so sure Des, I think your thoughts on here the other day - about WNW reading the forum and seeing what the community is saying, may very well effect the actual price?
I would guess possibly $20 over the Gotha for manufacture, and size, and another $20 for higher postal charges.
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It is strange that up today, there are no photos of the completed model, only the two of the front internal section.
I guess that we will have a "compo" announcement of the price, sprue photos and instructions. I just hope that this will be soon, or ...let me guess ...this will be on Dec the 17th, release date of the Hobbit "The battle of the five armies" movie ;D
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I have to say that I am very fortunate indeed in so much as I have a beautiful understanding and supportive wife, and an income that provides enough to enable me to indulge my modelling habit....I mean hobby lol.
Therefore I have over the years acquired a not inconsiderable "stash" encompassing many scales and variants of land sea and air models. Among my WNW section I have two Gothas and have just placed the boxes together to simulate the impending Felixstowe box size and while large I have to say that is is only in the mid range of what is available as far as kits go.
For example, most of the Italeri 1/35 torpedo boat series have a larger footprint ( the schnellboot being considerably larger and heavier ) the same can be said for Trumpeteers 1/35 Leopold railway gun ( which has a much greater parts count than the Felix too ) Dragons 1/6 Pak 37 ect, I could go on.
What I am trying to get at basically is, so far as shipping goes, the WNW Felixstowe shouldn't be all that expensive but as far as sticker price goes, I have a price in my head I would be prepared to spend on such a kit, I have a price in my head that I would not be surprised to see it advertised at, and I have a price in my head that I simply could not justify spending on a "model plane" , no matter how much I love the subject, or how amazing the product.
I think WNW should be applauded that in this day and age, and financial climate, they have the ability and belief to bring to market such a subject as a 1/32 Great War flying boat.
I just hope they can afford to pitch it at a price that makes it affordable to us, yet successful for them.
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I have enough models in my stash (40) to keep me going for 8-10 years at a build rate of 4-5 per year. Or even longer given my recent rate.
I therefore do not need the Felixstowe. But as I have said before, I am not waiting for any specific type/jasta/pilot aircraft kit but I choose the ones I like the look of, and this one floats my boat, so to speak. However I will be happy to be able to buy one only before they go off sale. By deduction the price is not so much of an issue as it will possibly take me a year or so to save up for this in the coins jar. But when I do, that will justify the spend.
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WNW updated the page but, only with the "Archive Photos" section....
And an extra photo of the interior
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Ian, I think you hit the nail on the head. I'll save for this kit, sell other kits from the stash, and get to the purchase price, as I see this as a "must have" kit if you will. The B-17F, Lanc, and some other big kits will take place behind this kit.
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With the Tamiya F4u-1a with a MSRP of US $213 and the Airfix Typhon at $165, ; the WNW Felix will indeed be a bargain. My guess is that it will be US $179 , but will not be surprised if they keep (and I do mean keep, as remembering that Sir PJ does not have to make a profit, he wants what he wants) it at the $149 of the Gotha.
Ed
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You get a lot of model in those bigger Airfix kits but they are some distance away from WNW quality. I know where I would prefer to spend my dollar!
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I agree with Ed.
WNW have another huge advantage. They only (or mostly) only sell direct. So comparing their prices to Tamiya or whoever is a little inaccurate. I fell that the price that we pay for their kits can best be described as wholesale.
Jackson has said that they don't need to make a profit, but by the same token they probably need to not make a loss either. WNW was not a cheap thing to set up, so the initial finance must have come from Jacksons LOTR money. So there is a loan that doesn't need servicing too, another advantage. I think any profit is probably ploughed straight back into the company and used to develope future kits.
It isn't all as altruistic as many modelers think. WNW (And TVAL.) will have a monetary value, Jackson is aware of that and what the return on his initial investment would be should he decide to sell. But this is an investment, Just in a company that produces something that I have more that a passing interest in.
Adrian.
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Looking at the WNW website, in the F2a (late section), the thumbnail for model photos has been updated to show what looks like a complete model.
A.
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Wow wow wow, if you want the W 29 now is your big chance! A new Dualist set! Felixstowe and W29! Wow $349 I knew there was another Xmus surprise
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The wait and speculation is over. $269.00. Ouch! Still got to have one. :)
Eric
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The wait and speculation is over. $269.00. Ouch! Still got to have one. :)
Eric
I just climbed back up on the fence. Still a "maybe", though.
Cheers,
Bud
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Wow wow wow, if you want the W 29 now is your big chance! A new Dualist set! Felixstowe and W29! Wow $349 I knew there was another Xmus surprise
Never really wanted the W29 when it was first out - never appealed to me, so the duallist set is a non-starter. $269? Going to take a LOT of saving up that one is!
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Well, I was completely wrong about the price. Still, I've just ordered one.
A.
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Ouch. Well right now its $308 Cdn which is a bit more than I thought it might be. I guess I shouldnt have ordered a Fe, an Albie, and 4 Pfalz IIIas. Then again after looking at the instructions and guestimating against my skills, I think this is one of those nope moments. Really want the W.29 but thats in the $400 Cdn range. Oh well at least I dreamt about it some. Will save my pennies for the AEG G.IV.
James
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The wait and speculation is over. $269.00. Ouch! Still got to have one. :)
Eric
I just climbed back up on the fence. Still a "maybe", though.
Cheers,
Bud
Bud, I was never on the fence but had I been I would certainly have fallen backwards ;D
RAGIII
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Yeah, I know, Rick. Not your cup of tea. Still I find the beast quite lovely. We'll see how disappointed Carol would be not to get a new coffee table. Maybe she can talk me into it. (where's the tongue-in-cheek emoticon?)
Cheers,
Bud
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That's a lot of clams !
Terri
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That's a lot of clams !
Terri
Indeed, but that's also a lot of model! To maybe put a little perspective on the subject, the MSRP for the H-K 1/32 B-17 is $300 with mail order prices around $277, PLUS shipping. A Tamiya 1/32 F4U Corsair retails for $213 - mail order prices around $170 - for a single engine fighter! And you don't even want to know what H-K's 1/32 Lancaster is going to sell for. Let's just say the cost of a WNW Felixstowe would make a decent down payment on one. :)
So, considering the sheer amount of plastic, not to mention the spectacular model that will result from what will take me easily a year to complete, $269 is pretty good bang for the buck especially taking into account the free shipping (I'm speaking for those of us in the U.S. who don't have to deal with hideous taxes).
Cheers,
Eric
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WOW, Gotha seems an absolute bargain now ???
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I'll have to sell kits at the next show, but I figure the time into building an f2a is worth the cost.
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I put it on backorder at Hannants at the first opportunity - "10% off", but off what? In the end, it's immaterial to me. Not that I'm rich, but this is one kit I've fantasised about and never dreamed it would actually come about. I admit that when I saw the figure, there was a 'wow' moment, not to mention a 'gulp', but any doubts I had softened when I had a look at the gorgeous pictures of the built model on the website.
True, what with Christmas, and a New Year trip being booked, I'm definitely needing Hannants not to get their deliveries this month :)
Mark
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From my perspective there's no question of value; given the quality of the WNW Product and the sheer "volume" of this subject $269 as a base price at source is good "bang for the buck". The average builder would take roughly double or more the time to do justice to this kit then the average two-seater, it looks to be a big and challenging project. I just went through the Model Images of Zdenko Bugan's Late Version Build on the Wingnut Site and, giving credit to the results produced by an obviously outstanding Modeller, the Kit appears to be, in a word, magnificent. Although it's not for me (too big to have in the house and not a subject in the top half of my ultimate wish list) I am quite pleased to see the excitement and anticipation of many here; a month ago I along with many would not have dreamed a model such as this would ever make the release list at Wingnut. For very many of our members this is about as good as it gets; a possible year of modelling time and a true "dream project". Go for it!
Without a doubt Wingnut Wings have changed this Hobby significantly for the better, and continue to improve on their performance. I am personally disappointed that the many subjects we all speculated on didn't appear this year (where is my bloody Camel, the notably absent French and A-H Subjects, and the elusive "super kits" of the releases I didn't buy before they went OOP???) but hey, things are pretty darned good when you've got a stash of their Kits, are still contemplating a couple more, and they've just proved that no subject is out of the running for their consideration. It's a great time for our Hobby, and a lot of the reason for that resides in New Zealand. I wonder if there's a bunch of 3 views and photos of 0400's being studied on a desk in Miramar?! :-\ ;)
As my hero, Forest says, "that's all I'm gonna say about that"!
Cheers, :) :)
Lance
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Some very good points made here and I just want to clarify my earlier statements. The fact that I can't afford the kit, and that it isn't one I am interested in, is in NO WAY a criticism of WNW pricing or value!
RAGIII
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Value is, of course relative. Go buy a an iPhone six with 64 GB of memory and you'll pay more than for the Felixstowe. Take someone to dinner, two glasses of wine, tip, trip to the cinema, and you've probably gotten close to the price of the Felixstowe.
Given the size, complexity, and detail inherent in this kit and the amount of time required to build it properly, I believe it is a fantastic value. I suppose if one looks at the price, the box, and finally the finished model sitting on a shelf, it would certainly appear to be expensive. However, for me as I progress and possibly mature in this hobby, the period between opening the box and putting the finished model on the shelf is where all the fun is. Given that perspective this kit is, for me, an outstanding value.
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There's lots of good sense in what people like Lance and others have already said.
We're talking here about something of the highest quality, beyond my wildest dreams and, I'm sure, excellent value for money, but have to confess that the price still came as a bit of a shock. I've spent the day anguishing as to whether I can justify spending such a sum. Ena says I should just buy it and I might yet do so, although earlier today I came close to filling a couple of the gaps in my WNW collection instead
Best wishes
Nigel
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One of the reasons I like this website is that it is populated by grown ups. I would imagine that on some of the other sites, populated by a younger crowd on the whole, there are cries of "Rip Off", etc. being voiced. Here, there is a logical conversation going on. It is nice to be among people who do not feel entitled.
Yes, that is a chunk of money but, my word, the value for that money. And, free shipping. I wish one of you that lives in N. Zed would figure the cost of shipping that Duelists box up to NYC, 11104, USA, just to see how much I will NOT pay.
And:
However, for me as I progress and possibly mature in this hobby, the period between opening the box and putting the finished model on the shelf is where all the fun is.
And:
remember when we had about 18 kits in the world to choose from? If you don't want one...wait a year!
And so, brothers, and Miss Terry, let us rejoice and be glad and, those of us who can, support Sir Peter, and, more especially, those willing to put their neck$ on the line...like Richard at Aviattic....a new day has dawned and is brightening rapidly.......after all, this all could be a dream and next time you go to your stash the only D. VII you'll find will be from Aurora and you will have to begin by scraping off the embossed markings.
Pax Vobiscum from NYC,
Fr. Michael
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It is a good purchase, once you divide the hours it will take to build into the $269. :)
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Just for kicks I found an online inflation calculator and according to it, buying the WNW Felixstowe today would have been equal to a $68.66 kit in 1975. I chose that year as that's when I started getting serious about model building and buying. :)
Eric
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I think the Duelists is the better deal, the W 29 would be $100, then the price of the Felix is at $249....I already saved $20! Woo hoo! I'm gonna build the S%*t out of these models, I can't freaking wait :) I gotta be honest I am a little intimidated at the sight of that built up kit on the WNW site....
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Another thing that I think that WNW brings at this point, is the sense of real excitement. Even if your not jazzed at this release, these guys are just crazy enough to release ANYTHING. A month ago no one would have ever speculated that the Christmas onslaught would have been all seaplanes. It's amazing to see what these guys are doing. Stakken...not out of the question in my opinion. 20 years from now we will all look back on this Christmas release thing from WNW as a really great memory. One of my favorite Xmus memories as a kid was when I got the old Aurora Gotha V. The last few WNW Christmas releases have brought me right back to that GV....I can't wait to see what's next
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So any estimates on how many hours it will take to complete one of these? Gotta be pretty up there - 100 hours?
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I can't wait to see what's next
This is the problem. I like this incredible model Felixstowe but due to the price, if I buy it, I couldn't afford another model in the next month. And what's next ?
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So any estimates on how many hours it will take to complete one of these? Gotta be pretty up there - 100 hours?
LOL! Increase that by a magnitude of 10! At least at the rate I build. Took me 9 months to build the WNW LVG but I couldn't begin to guess how many hours were spent. I can say that it was one of the most enjoyable and rewarding modeling experiences I've ever had. :)
Cheers,
Eric
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So any estimates on how many hours it will take to complete one of these? Gotta be pretty up there - 100 hours?
LOL! Increase that by a magnitude of 10! At least at the rate I build. Took me 9 months to build the WNW LVG but I couldn't begin to guess how many hours were spent. I can say that it was one of the most enjoyable and rewarding modeling experiences I've ever had. :)
Cheers,
Eric
That's what I'm talking about. I built two Eduard MiG-15s right after they came out. They are in a storage box somewhere (I rotate models in and out of my small display case) and I mostly remember the fit issues I had with them. However, I distinctly remember my Wingnuts Wings builds with mostly fondness. The warts and glitches were self-inflicted so no bad memories of the kits themselves.
There is a reason quality goods cost more, and when it comes to models, Wingnuts Wings are worth the price. In the end, it's not that a Felixstowe equals two Rumplers and a Snipe, rather you get to spend countless (for me) hours building a brilliant, huge flying boat with two engines, an interior like a sailing ship and tons of mystique!
I'm going for the Late version because I figure I can leave top coaming parts K8 and K10 unglued to show off the interior.
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Just for kicks I found an online inflation calculator and according to it, buying the WNW Felixstowe today would have been equal to a $68.66 kit in 1975. I chose that year as that's when I started getting serious about model building and buying. :)
Eric
Thanks for doing this, Eric.
Someone is welcome to prove me wrong but I was doing a lot of model building in those days and I can not think of any model, in any medium, that would have come even close to that price in 1975. How much was the Tamiya 1/48 Lancaster when it came out in '75? That's the closest thing I can remember to being this big a deal.
Yes, we are indeed in a golden age of model building.....
Cheers from NYC,
Michael
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Well Michael, how old were we back then? Minimum wage was what, $1.25 per hour? Also, scale modeling, even then, was still largely considered a past-time for boys, and over-grown boys. There's hardly a kit in the world today that is not marketed at adults with excess money to spend.
This is a great month for those in love with the Felixstowe. I'm not among the faithful, but I'm tickled to watch those that are having their glorious day.
Warren
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Someone is welcome to prove me wrong but I was doing a lot of model building in those days and I can not think of any model, in any medium, that would have come even close to that price in 1975.
I saved many pennies for the Pocher Alfa Romeo 8C 2600 Monza -- I think it was about $325.00 back then.
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Just for kicks I found an online inflation calculator and according to it, buying the WNW Felixstowe today would have been equal to a $68.66 kit in 1975. I chose that year as that's when I started getting serious about model building and buying. :)
Eric
Thanks for doing this, Eric.
Someone is welcome to prove me wrong but I was doing a lot of model building in those days and I can not think of any model, in any medium, that would have come even close to that price in 1975. How much was the Tamiya 1/48 Lancaster when it came out in '75? That's the closest thing I can remember to being this big a deal.
Yes, we are indeed in a golden age of model building.....
Cheers from NYC,
Michael
You're welcome! Funny you should mention the Tamiya Lanc. I remember the day the first batch arrived at a small hobby shop where I worked part time in those days. If I recall correctly, it was about $25 which was quite a significant sum at that time! I just dug out a 1976 issue of Scale Modeler and found a few more examples:
Hasegawa 1/32 F-104C Starfighter - $12.00
Tamiya 1/12 Formula 1 cars - $14.99 (have you priced those lately?)
Monogram 1/48 B-17G - $8.34
Microscale decal sheets - $0.35.
Eric
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Just for kicks I found an online inflation calculator and according to it, buying the WNW Felixstowe today would have been equal to a $68.66 kit in 1975. I chose that year as that's when I started getting serious about model building and buying. :)
Eric
Thanks for doing this, Eric.
Someone is welcome to prove me wrong but I was doing a lot of model building in those days and I can not think of any model, in any medium, that would have come even close to that price in 1975. How much was the Tamiya 1/48 Lancaster when it came out in '75? That's the closest thing I can remember to being this big a deal.
Yes, we are indeed in a golden age of model building.....
Cheers from NYC,
Michael
You're welcome! Funny you should mention the Tamiya Lanc. I remember the day the first batch arrived at a small hobby shop where I worked part time in those days. If I recall correctly, it was about $25 which was quite a significant sum at that time! I just dug out a 1976 issue of Scale Modeler and found a few more examples:
Hasegawa 1/32 F-104C Starfighter - $12.00
Tamiya 1/12 Formula 1 cars - $14.99 (have you priced those lately?)
Monogram 1/48 B-17G - $8.34
Microscale decal sheets - $0.35.
Eric
How much were the Airfix 1/24 fighter kits -- Bf-109, Hurricane, Spit and Mustang-- those were big deals to me back then ... Guessing like $20.00?
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Someone is welcome to prove me wrong but I was doing a lot of model building in those days and I can not think of any model, in any medium, that would have come even close to that price in 1975.
I saved many pennies for the Pocher Alfa Romeo 8C 2600 Monza -- I think it was about $325.00 back then.
I am in the middle of dismanltling and upgrading my Pocher Alfa Monza now!
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I can remember the 1/24 Pocher Caudron G III and the1/16 hasegawa flyer. The Airfix bentley and harrier... I think they were in the ball of the felixstowe. They were out of my budget even whenI had a wage.
Not to mention the pocher cars' and the hasegawa 1/8 DR 1, Camel and SE 5a... They were priced a full monthly wage, well in excess of the duellist.
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Ah, I forgot the Aurora 1/32 B 25, the renwal atomic powerplant and the revell petrol platform...
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My Dad owned a hobby shop and I worked in it and still couldnt afford a Lanc. The only thing that annoys me about prices besides sky rocketing is when a company uses a 30 odd year old mold and charges $150.00 for what was a $25.00 kit. No improvements at all. That just seems like gouging to me. As for the price for the Felixstowes I think for what you get it is not bad, its just more than I have ever spent for one kit. I'm not sure I could justify it although I am wondering about the duelist set in order to get my W.29. I cant help but think I could get 5 kits that I know I would build for the price of the 2 of which one I may never build.
Its a moot point right now for me anyways but I cant wait to watch the first build on this forum. That will be exciting to see.
James
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Pocher cars, the Hasegawa 1/8 scale wooden kits, the 1/24 Airfix kits......you guys are shaking cobwebs loose for me.
Thanks for the memories,
Michael
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Last night I pre-ordered a Felixstowe Late version, and another spool of EZ Line...
I have a Caldercraft kit, Nelson's Navy series, the HMS Sherbourne. Wood and rope (twine) mostly, and it was right in there with the Felixstowe cost-wise. I think, medium aside, they are basically equivalent. Complex, interesting, historical and hours of modeling enjoyment. I think the only reason to buy a model kit, regardless of price, is that one enjoys it and want to build it.
I'm in a now-permanent stress reduction life. Getting and dealing with cancer has prompted a new perspective and being healthier certainly involves stress reduction. My new kit, and the few other rather larger and complex kits that are waiting patiently on the shelf, promise many days of reduced stress modeling. Cheap at many times the price. I just finished the cockpit/framing for my Roland C.II tonight. I'll post some photos in the appropriate thread later tonight. I will say that having that kit and a "road tool kit" along has certainly made my enforced stay near the hospital more enjoyable and has reduced my stress considerably.
Sorry to hijack this thread. Done now.
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Here's to your reduced stress and your health, Eindecker.
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Here's to your reduced stress and your health, Eindecker.
Same here, Eindecker. Kick some cancer ass.
Cheers,
Bud
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What Bud said Eindecker!
Cheers,
Chris
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Here's to your reduced stress and your health, Eindecker.
Same here, Eindecker. Kick some cancer ass.
Cheers,
Bud
Thanks! We're nuking the hell out of it...
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What Bud said Eindecker!
Cheers,
Chris
I agree wholeheartedly!
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What Bud said Eindecker!
Cheers,
Chris
Me too! Best wishes, Eindecker. :)
Cheers,
Ernie :)
I agree wholeheartedly!
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What Bud said Eindecker!
Cheers,
Chris
Me too! Best wishes, Eindecker. :)
Cheers,
Ernie :)
I agree wholeheartedly!
Best wishes from my side, too, Eindecker!
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And mine too Eindekker!
Best wishes
Nigel
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.......and me too Eindecker. I'm dealing with my own health and age "Demon" as well, and just bought a second hand Matchbox Canadian Flower Class Corvette that's at least 2 feet too long for my space, but am I ever looking forward to the zero stress sessions working on it! (me who does WWI Aircraft exclusively, or at least I thought so! :o) Kick ass Sir, and in the interim enjoy the Builds! ;)
Cheers,
Lance
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Man Lance I wish I had known you were looking. I have 2 of those in my stash. If you need something let me know as one of them is also second hand and I could part it out for you. Need some ref suggestions?
Sorry to hijack the thread guys.
James
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Thanks to everyone for the best wishes. I think this is going to turn out okay and now I'd like to get this thread back to its topic. My apologies for moving this conversation away from the very cool Felixstowe.
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There are two eBay auctions, for the early and late versions. The seller is from China, joined eBay in September, and has zero feedback. There's no mention of these being pre-orders either.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-32-High-quality-model-kit-from-Wingnut-Wings-WWI-Felixstowe-F-2a-Early-WW1-/291322910403 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-32-High-quality-model-kit-from-Wingnut-Wings-WWI-Felixstowe-F-2a-Early-WW1-/291322910403)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-32-High-quality-model-kit-from-Wingnut-Wings-WWI-Felixstowe-F-2a-Late-WW1-/291322911247 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-32-High-quality-model-kit-from-Wingnut-Wings-WWI-Felixstowe-F-2a-Late-WW1-/291322911247)
???
Peter
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There are two eBay auctions, for the early and late versions. The seller is from China, joined eBay in September, and has zero feedback. There's no mention of these being pre-orders either.
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Peter
Black market Felixstowes! "Pssst....hey kid...wanna buy a flying boat?". :)
Eric
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Hmmm... Quick, print the box covers, whip out some parts (that's the hard part) and sell 'em as the real McCoy?
Probably pre-ordered a bunch and is advertising ahead of delivery.
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WNW kits are made in China if I recall? Makes ya wonder if a few maybe were taken off the production line maybe?
Most likely though just has some on preorder as mentioned above but you never know...
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Man, I'd jump on one of these in a heart beat if the seller had any background and wasn't in China. I've had some bad experiences ordering from China.
Cheers,
Bud
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There are two eBay auctions, for the early and late versions. The seller is from China, joined eBay in September, and has zero feedback. There's no mention of these being pre-orders either.
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Peter
Black market Felixstowes! "Pssst....hey kid...wanna buy a flying boat?". :)
Eric
I literally lol'd
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Expensive or not – I just popped for an early version. :)
It may well be the only plane kit I buy and build for 2015 (though, the coming AEG is also pretty tempting). In that perspective it's pretty good value for money I think. Like some of you have speculated – I guess a large part of the $269 goes towards shipping it across the world.
Question is if the Royal Swedish Customs will turn a blind eye as it passes their station – Probably not... :P ???
Second question is where to place it once its built? Digging a pond in the garden perhaps?
/Mikael
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now there is a WNW Felix on eBay started at $14.95, up to $24 bucks now....
has pics from WNW website including the build up shots stamped with autsports.models.co.uk?
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There are two eBay auctions, for the early and late versions. The seller is from China, joined eBay in September, and has zero feedback. There's no mention of these being pre-orders either.
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Peter
Black market Felixstowes! "Pssst....hey kid...wanna buy a flying boat?". :)
Eric
It will be interesting to see what these sell for compared to WNW's price. Especially since WNW has free shipping, and the auctions do not.
Peter
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Ask Wingnuts directly if these Ebay auctions of Felixstowes are genuine. The answer I got means I would run away very quickly.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Ask Wingnuts directly if these Ebay auctions of Felixstowes are genuine. The answer I got means I would run away very quickly.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Did you ask WNW? If so, what did they say?
If they're bogus, WNW needs to notify eBay, and eBay will (theoretically) close the listings.
Peter
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Yes I did ask Wingnuts. My post above is clear enough. Based on their response I would run away from these "auctions". This should be a clear enough warning surely?
Dave wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Yes I did ask Wingnuts. My post above is clear enough. Based on their response I would run away from these "auctions". This should be a clear enough warning surely?
Dave wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
I understand, but I am interested to know exactly what their response was.
Peter
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David Wilson is a very trusted and respected journalist and would not under any circumstances breach any confidentiality laws. so I would believe everyting he has said, if he says to keep well away from the auctions I would follow exactly what he says.
Des.
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Thanks Des.
Those interested in how scammers in China operate should Google EBay scammers in China and read the very interesting article on how scammers there operate. Short version - private sellers in China offering foreign brand products are almost certainly fraudulent.
Bid at your peril.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Pre orderd the Early and late felixtowe this week ive just orderd them by WnW itself why bother with ebay or other compagnys they have great service!
Expensive mounth this year 2 felix 1 W12 and a salmson usas, only trhee left to buy both off the DFW C.V and late Snipe and iam up to date to all the kits again.
Ps wondering if it would pay off in the end buying all kits again.
Ron
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Thanks Des.
Those interested in how scammers in China operate should Google EBay scammers in China and read the very interesting article on how scammers there operate. Short version - private sellers in China offering foreign brand products are almost certainly fraudulent.
Bid at your peril.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Anyone who buys products on ebay originating from Russia or China is a fool, plain and simple.
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Just as an aside, with all the "shock and awe" over the size of the Felixstows box size and given that WNW kits fill those boxes completely ( the first time I took my Gotha sprues out for a look see I couldn't get them all back in again ) I wonder just how big the dualist boxing is going to be, considering the previous dualist boxing was an unusual ( compared to single and two seat boxings ) size
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Regarding the auctions in question: I don't think for a minute that the Tongs, and Yakuza ignore the money making potential of the internet. There is just as much buzz about the HK Lanc, Do-335, and Horten, just to name a few.
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Hello all,
Apologies for the slight absence, but I've had a very busy year which had relegated me to building the odd 'quick' model.. Unfortunately, Wingnuts don't fall into that category!
However, things are easing off a little now and the new releases had me hooked ::) I ordered the W.12 & then the blooming Felixstowe came out - sooo not my kind of kit - too big - waaaaay too much rigging - but somehow I ordered one anyway in a rush of blood... :P
Hopefully will post some pics along the way ;)
Best regards and some great work on the forum - nice to catch up again...
Guy
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Welcome back! Lots to catch up on....
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Yes, welcome back, Guy.
I need to save a bit more before responding to my wife, Ena's encouragement to buy a Felixstowe. Whether I would ever build it or just enjoy the vicarious pleasure of opening the box and reading the instructions again and again is another matter! The problem of storing such a large model may well have been solved by a chance visit to a warehouse the other day and finding that it was also a seller of shop fittings. There before me was a range of free-standing, self assembly, glass display units with shelves. Not designed as posh furniture I reckoned that I could find a space somewhere in the largish house we rattle around in for one of these and they seemed pretty cheap to me.
So maybe I will get that Felixstowe after all, and even go for a build,
Best wishes
Nigel
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Just a mischievous thought, Nigel - Now you've found some display cabinets at reasonable cost, will you simply measure up for the Felixstowe (both of them??), or do some forward planning and figure out the R.VI's dimensions in 1/32? ;)
Mark
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Ha! Mischievous indeed Mark. Standing at about 5ft 6 (1.75m), I'd be too terrified to take on a model of an R.VI on which in 1/32 scale the wingspan was within about 15 inches of my height. Anyway, I think I'd need an entire shop front to display such a beast, not just a cabinet.
Best wishes
Mark
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From the responses, price does not seem to be an issue. Compared to say the 1/32 B-17 the F2a is a bargain, consider that the fit will be right on, better accuracy, multiple choices of markings ( except for the Duellists- but a great duo there!) and the postage is included !!
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WNW delite the notice PRO ORDER for felix
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Yep. Also says:
Shipping of pre-orders commences today (16 December).
So cool :)
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Don't get too optimistic of a Christmas arrival. I bought the Hansa W.12 kit- a model in stock- last Wednesday ( 10th) and am still waiting for a shipping notice a week later, after the postage deadline to Australia has passed.
And before anyone says they're snowed under with orders, I say they could easily take on more staff to cope. It's called business.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Great news about shipping. Still, I have no hope to get Felix for Christmas, Poland is too far from NZ. But I would be happy to know my order placed on the very first day was indeed shipped before they close the shop for holidays. Thus I would have a good chance to see my Felix in the first week of the new year. Would be cool!
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Great news about shipping. Still, I have no hope to get Felix for Christmas, Poland is too far from NZ. But I would be happy to know my order placed on the very first day was indeed shipped before they close the shop for holidays. Thus I would have a good chance to see my Felix in the first week of the new year. Would be cool!
Go with the Orthodox Christmas, Prze, that gives you an extra couple of weeks. ;) ;D
Patience, my friend, Felix is on the way!...or will be soon.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Don't get too optimistic of a Christmas arrival. I bought the Hansa W.12 kit- a model in stock- last Wednesday ( 10th) and am still waiting for a shipping notice a week later, after the postage deadline to Australia has passed.
And before anyone says they're snowed under with orders, I say they could easily take on more staff to cope. It's called business.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
My math says thats three business days
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OK, as I type, it is now after 4:15pm in New Zealand, 12/16. So, let's see who will be the first to report they've received a ship notice for their Felixstowe! ;)
Cheers,
Eric
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Pepperman said of my post above: "My math says thats three business days" in response to my post re slow shipping of my order from the 10th. fact is in Australia and NZ it's Tuesday so this is the fifth business day, if you want to get pedantic about it.
Point is, Wingnuts had a postal Christmas cutoff deadline for Australia of 15 December and I ordered well before then and all I've heard is a big silence. So that said, I hope people waiting on a Felixstowe delivery for Christmas don't get their hopes up too much. Happy to be proved wrong.
Yes I know Wingnuts are good for the order and are trusted vendors etc etc. Thats not the point here. Their former legendary shipping speed has fallen off alarmingly. I've had model items arrive faster from England now than from NZ.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Bo, i reckon the Felix/Hansa dualist boxing will prove to be one of WNW most desirable offerings in years to come
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I really don't care if it comes before Christmas. It's been ordered and I will spend a lot of time going through the parts, etc. before I actually get to it. I think a corner slightly above my workbench will suit There will be enough space for the wings and it will be visible enough for others. Put a plexiglass front and top on it, and shazam... display. Maybe a "water " base... hmmm....
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It won't be just a water base, you will need an ocean :) :)
Des.
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A received a WnW shipping notification of my Felixstowe / W.29 set this morning.
They must have found an empty container ship to carry the box ;)
Regards
Russell
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I have recieved shipping confirmation late this afternoon that my Felix's areon they're way, WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ;D
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-32-High-quality-model-kit-from-Wingnut-Wings-WWI-Felixstowe-F-2a-Early-WW1-/291322910403 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-32-High-quality-model-kit-from-Wingnut-Wings-WWI-Felixstowe-F-2a-Early-WW1-/291322910403)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-32-High-quality-model-kit-from-Wingnut-Wings-WWI-Felixstowe-F-2a-Late-WW1-/291322911247 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-32-High-quality-model-kit-from-Wingnut-Wings-WWI-Felixstowe-F-2a-Late-WW1-/291322911247)
The two auctions have now been removed by eBay. Yesterday evening they were around $100 and $125, with about 10 bids each. When I wrote Richard Alexander about them last Friday, he replied, without an NDA statement, "They are almost certainly a scam."
Peter
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A received a WnW shipping notification of my Felixstowe / W.29 set this morning.
They must have found an empty container ship to carry the box ;)
Regards
Russell
ditto here biggest box ever to come my way
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Don't get too optimistic of a Christmas arrival. I bought the Hansa W.12 kit- a model in stock- last Wednesday ( 10th) and am still waiting for a shipping notice a week later, after the postage deadline to Australia has passed.
And before anyone says they're snowed under with orders, I say they could easily take on more staff to cope. It's called business.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
It's not run like a business. It does not need your money to remain in business. I mean, did they need to make a 1/32 Felixstowe? Or dozens of WWI models in 1/32?
If it was run as a business, it would make tons and tons of Albatros & Fokkers in massive amounts.
You will have a 1/32 Felixstowe within a few weeks of it being announced. Thata amazing, companies like HK, Tamiya, Hasegawa etc would announce a kit months ahead of production.
So I don't mind if mine tales months to arrive. It's not like any of us have no stash with which to play with in the interim.
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n possible defence of Wingnuts, New Zealand Post are now of somewhat less use than tits on a bull. I can get things from Europe to here (Christchurch) faster than I can from Auckland, and it can take three days to get mail across town. I literally could walk faster!
Pepperman said of my post above: "My math says thats three business days" in response to my post re slow shipping of my order from the 10th. fact is in Australia and NZ it's Tuesday so this is the fifth business day, if you want to get pedantic about it.
Point is, Wingnuts had a postal Christmas cutoff deadline for Australia of 15 December and I ordered well before then and all I've heard is a big silence. So that said, I hope people waiting on a Felixstowe delivery for Christmas don't get their hopes up too much. Happy to be proved wrong.
Yes I know Wingnuts are good for the order and are trusted vendors etc etc. Thats not the point here. Their former legendary shipping speed has fallen off alarmingly. I've had model items arrive faster from England now than from NZ.
In possible defence of Wingnuts, New Zealand Post are now of somewhat less use than tits on a bull. I can get things from Europe to here (Christchurch) faster than I can from Auckland, and it can take three days to get mail across town. I literally could walk faster!
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Bit of irony here. I have completed most of my Christmas shopping and after taking a quick look at my checking account balance, determined that I could, indeed, order the Felixstowe before WNW closes for the holidays. Driving to work this past Sunday, giddy with the prospect, I was flying along, about 25 mph over the posted speed limit on an 11 mile stretch of rural road rarely patrolled by CHP. Suddenly (suddenly only because I was going so damned fast), I spotted one of California's finest coming from the opposite direction. Assuming he wouldn't be able to track my speed coming at me head-on, I slowed to the correct speed and figured I was safe. After he passed me, he pulled a quick U-turn, tucked in behind me and hit his lights. Seems the new dash board radar they've got now are capable of calculating closing speeds. ??? Anyway, my fine will be just a bit more than the cost of Felix. Hard to sell this purchase to Carol, now. Have to lay low and wait for things to cool off. 8)
Cheers,
Bud
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@ Bud........DUDE!
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@ Bud........DUDE!
Yeah. :-[
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Bud, in EnZed there is the perfect word for this "bugger!"
I feel sad for your loss :'(
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Bud... sorry to hear of your encounter.
Why do I have this mental image of a CHP officer on the WNW website buying a Felixstowe with some unexpected funds????? :)
Warmest regards for a happy Christmas anyway!
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Bud,
Ouch! What a horrible substitute for a "Felix"! I did a fair bit of Traffic Radar in my "second life", they can get you coming, going, and from front or back, so be careful out there!
On the other side of the coin I'm still LMAO over Dave's preceding comment, classic Dave! ;D ;D ;D
Cheers,
Lance
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So sorry Bud my friend. :( >:(
Warren
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Man, that hurts Bud, sorry to hear that this had to happen to you and only a week out from christmas.
Des
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Why do I have this mental image of a CHP officer on the WNW website buying a Felixstowe with some unexpected funds????? :)
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Not to make light of Bud's situation but THAT is funny, Dave!
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hey bud was the "CHiP", "Ponch"? If so you coulda probably bribed him. i'm sure hes broke. seriously though that sux. i always knew the day would come when they could calculate your speed when they are moving . guess you could sell me some of those rare 1/48 stuff we were talking about. just kidding. at this point i have almost every kit i want bar a few that are impossible to get.
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Once rode with a CHP friend out of Folsom. Ten years ago they used portable speed acquisition gear. GPS synced through a CHP drone will be next. Gave my CHP friend my built Tamiya P-47 Razorback but never got him that interested in modeling.
Sorry to hear about your Felixstowe. Mine's been shipped (Sorry I had to say that…)
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Oh Bud, sorry to hear this!!! You'll have special reason for remembering this when you you do get the Felixstowe and with each drop of glue you apply. Now if only WNW had brought out a BE2 or a Camel instead.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Hi Bud
I gone pulled doing 40 along a 30mph. It was a dual carriagway that was 40 and I did not realise the limit had gone down. I made light of it and was able to swap a few jokes with the cops, they said with regret they still had to do me though. What I did to cover the £60 fine was ban myself from buying any food/snacks from petrol stations (an unessesary habit). Since doing this I have probably made/saved enough to buy the entire WNW range so in the long run I have gained from my fine.
Alan.
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Woo hoo! Just got the ship notice for mine. Now to see if it can make it to Akron, Ohio by next Wednesday. :)
Eric
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Guys, thank you for your sympathy, which is truly undeserved. I got exactly what I had coming to me. A few months ago, Carol got her first speeding ticket ever and I was relentless in teasing her about it. Told her we should erect a plaque on the spot to commemorate the event, called her a criminal, told her the cop probably just pulled her over 'cause she's so hot, and so on. You get the gist. Might not be a good idea to broach the subject of adopting a giant, pet airplane for a while. Besides, I really do drive way too fast most of the time. I just love speed. Well, I reckon it's time to slow down a bit. I mean, it's not like a own a Ferrari convertable. I drive an old Ford F150. I should be driving like all the other old farts that live around here.
Cheers,
Bud
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I had said that the Felixstowe is too expensive and too big for me, so .................................................I ordered one. ;D
You know what ? I'm happy :)
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Pepperman said of my post above: "My math says thats three business days" in response to my post re slow shipping of my order from the 10th. fact is in Australia and NZ it's Tuesday so this is the fifth business day, if you want to get pedantic about it.
Point is, Wingnuts had a postal Christmas cutoff deadline for Australia of 15 December and I ordered well before then and all I've heard is a big silence. So that said, I hope people waiting on a Felixstowe delivery for Christmas don't get their hopes up too much. Happy to be proved wrong.
Yes I know Wingnuts are good for the order and are trusted vendors etc etc. Thats not the point here. Their former legendary shipping speed has fallen off alarmingly. I've had model items arrive faster from England now than from NZ.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
....so 5 days not a week ::) lighten up!!!
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Thanks Pepperman. I'm well lightened up but thanks for your concerns. Just launched into a Roden 1/32nd SE5a Wolseley Viper model to remind myself there's much more to the modelling world than Wingnuts :)
Warmest regards and a Merry Christmas
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Looking forward to seeing build photos of your Roden SE.5a David, the 1:32 scale WW1 aircraft kits produced by Roden are not too bad and build up to be nice looking models, I especially like their DH.2, the SSW D.III and the Sopwith Triplane.
Des.
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Thanks Pepperman. I'm well lightened up but thanks for your concerns. Just launched into a Roden 1/32nd SE5a Wolseley Viper model to remind myself there's much more to the modelling world than Wingnuts :)
Warmest regards and a Merry Christmas
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
I hope you plan to post a build log. My next WW1 project is the Roden SE5a! I would love to be able to steal/share ideas ::)
RAGIII
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I had said that the Felixstowe is too expensive and too big for me, so .................................................I ordered one. ;D
You know what ? I'm happy :)
I,ve got a horrible feeling i'm going to be doing the same.
Cheers
Andrew
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"I hope you plan to post a build log. My next WW1 project is the Roden SE5a! I would love to be able to steal/share ideas ::)
RAGIII"
Hi RAG III. One point I would offer up front about the Roden 1/32nd SE5a is the Roden instructions are basic/ somewhat vague re parts placement and downright confusing at times.
My solution is to have the Wingnut Wings SE5a instructions on the bench as a more reliable parallel reference. The WNW SE5a instructions are available for free download from: http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/productdetail?productid=3&cat=4 and can also be downloaded in Pdf format.
Although the Wingnut kit is a Hispano-engined SE, much of the instructions applies to colours and detail of the Roden kit too, especially the colour calls. Wingnut kit instructions are the world's best.
Roden kits have been unfairly shunted aside in modellers' minds by the WNW models but this is unfair. They are a modeller's model and quality is remarkably high given the constraints a small Ukrainian company faced. Well worth making and some of their choices- Siemens Schuckert D.III, Albatros D III, Nieuports, Spads etc have still not been done by Wingnuts.
And now we return to normal programming and a panel discussion on the merits of the Wingnuts Felixstowe and whether it is of sufficient size to house the family cat or small dog....
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Received word Monday that my Felixstowe was shipped. I waited a couple of days before I checked its status and for five days it still says picked up and it's in transit to the post office. I was hoping it would be a Christmas present, oh well. At least it is on its way, hopefully.
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Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Ooohhh Gold Coast. What beautiful scenery there. Went swimming on one of the beaches on a day off while on TD at RAAF Amberly way back in time. Almost emigrated there but I got a posting to Germany instead:)
James
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Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Ooohhh Gold Coast. What beautiful scenery there. Went swimming on one of the beaches on a day off while on TD at RAAF Amberly way back in time. Almost emigrated there but I got a posting to Germany instead:)
James
Hi James.
A little piece of military trivia for you.
Way back last centuary when the site for RAAF Amberly was being selected, there were two options.
They were it's present location (well inland) and the other was Coolangatta, which as you would be aware, is right on the Gold Coast.
How would you have liked a posting to RAAF Coolangatta? :D
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Arrived overseas 17:26 on 21/12/14
Overseas being The USA.
Closer and Closer.........
Cheers from NYC,
Michael
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Mine "arrived overseas" yesterday ( overseas being Australia ) the last WNW order I got took two days to reach me after that status so I guess there is a slim chance my felixes could be here tomorrow ?
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Arrived overseas 17:26 on 21/12/14
Overseas being The USA.
Closer and Closer.........
Cheers from NYC,
Michael
Cool! I just got an update saying mine has left NZ so it will definitely be a post-Christmas delivery here in Akron. No worries! Anticipation is half the fun. :)
Eric
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My friend Rick got his delivered at 12:30 pm Pacific Time. Can't tell you where he lives — can't have some of you blokes blocking traffic on his block and endlessly ringing his bell.
😄
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Arrived this morning at 11:20 AM. It is a BIG box...........20.5 x 14 x 6 inches.......
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Congratulations, my "duelist" box is also already on the trip to Germany.
Your big-box is slightly deformed at the upper left corner.
I hope the plastic sprue's are allright?
Servus
Bertl
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They are fine. In my excitement when the postman arrived at the door, I "misjudged" the weight of the box and it slipped about 18 inches onto the porch floor. My fault, but no damage.
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The postman rang while I was in the shower, I missed him!
It's gone back to the post office and I will have to wait until Friday!
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NO...he attempted to redeliver while we were at church for Christmas eve.....left it with the neighbors who live next door......and subsequently left to visit relatives out of town...for the WEEKEND. I can SEE the box thorough the door! Imagine the frustration.
Ho Ho Huh?
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Ouch !
But you will get it eventually :)
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NO...he attempted to redeliver while we were at church for Christmas eve.....left it with the neighbors who live next door......and subsequently left to visit relatives out of town...for the WEEKEND. I can SEE the box thorough the door! Imagine the frustration.
Ho Ho Huh?
Is it breaking and entering if it's your stuff? :)
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I live outside Chicago. Left the house at 3:30 PM do go to my Dad's house for Xmus Eve. Got home at 10:00 PM and there was a giant box sitting on my front stoop. Needless to say I was giddy as a school boy. I'm sitting in my chair right now with them in my lap....The other half of the story, when I was at my Dad's he had my name in the grab bag, and he got me the Fokker DVII F. Gotta say.....could be the greatest Xmus ever!
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YgqHT4ixhZQ/VJuQdHgzhKI/AAAAAAAAWoI/-Ex5mMhdDC8/w933-h525-no/IMG_20141224_221950256_HDR.jpg)
P S my box wasn't even crinkled on the corners...
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Lord! I think Santa would have to add a couple more
Reindeer this trip. ;D
Cheers and merry Christmas,
Ernie :)
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Goodness me, zavod, what a special Christmas for you.
Best wishes and seasonal greetings from the heart of France.
Nigel
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Lord! I think Santa would have to add a couple more
Reindeer this trip. ;D
Cheers and merry Christmas,
Ernie :)
Can you imagine him trying to keep up with the weight and balance calculations as more and yet more of those Felix's got piled onto his sled by the Elfs!?!?
Cheers,
Lance ;)
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Goodness me, zavod, what a special Christmas for you.
Best wishes and seasonal greetings from the heart of France.
Nigel
Thanks Nigel, you to. Enjoy your Holidays.
Santa even dropped off a 1/35 St Chamond late type this morning. It is now officially the Greatest Christmas ever....
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Welllll.....Mrs. Santa not only managed to get the box from next door, she added to the mix!
(http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/ag293/michaelscarborough1/12ee7470-135c-4410-bf91-6e4c9fc3ba4d_zps8af1d094.jpg) (http://s1371.photobucket.com/user/michaelscarborough1/media/12ee7470-135c-4410-bf91-6e4c9fc3ba4d_zps8af1d094.jpg.html)
So just how big is the Felixstowe? The aileron for one wing is LONGER than one of the lower wings of the Sopwith Pup.
When excavating the Dueslists box, you dig through the W.29, then get to the hull of the F'stowe and think, "dang (insert crikey, cor, s'truth, Merde, Mama Mia) this is BIG." But then you get to the wings of the F'stowe and, think, "oh my, this is big", and then realize that there is still a center section that the other sections go into, and no matter how many times you looked at a yard stick (sorry, meter measure) to see how big a wingspan your model was going to have, actually seeing it is mind boggling.
Yes, I am afraid I will need a Texas sized house for this trio of water birds.
Merry Christmas, indeed!!!
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Congrats, bro! Great haul! Tell Diane she done good.
Cheers,
Bud
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So......does this mean we will be seeing build logs for the Felixstowe? I got some Christmas moolah, just might have to pop for one.
Best wishes to all.
Mark
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Great haul Michael, give Mrs Santa a pat on the back for managing to extract the package from next door.
Des.
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@Michael
You do not need a Texas sized house for it, you need a big swimming pool for these three water birds....... 8)
Servus
Bertl
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I cant get over how big the wingspan is on the Felix - the fuselage/hull seems very short when you compare the span. Wonder how the thing was to fly?
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Just one half of the top wing not including the centre section is wider than the entire wingspan of the Bristol F.2b, it will be a huge model.
Des.
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My WNW Early Felixstowe arrived this morning. Box is as big as a suitcase. Wow! Months of modeling enjoyment ahead. Just have to decide on which scheme and get some more paint.
Sean
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Hi:
Is anyone who purchased the early Felixstowe not building the US version? If so, would you be interested in selling me the US markings?
Thanx,
Carl
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Just got Datafile 82 (No, the reprint isn't out yet) and was gratified to see that there were gaudy schemes for the Early version, as well, since I opted to purchase the W.29/F.2A The Duellists. Drawings include 1/48 3-view & 3 sections for the Beaching Trolley, easily blown up to 1/32. IMHO this would solve the problem of trying to display a flying boat's natural element. Got Datafile 55 last Friday, so I'm set.
Regards & Happy New Year, Rob
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My Felixstowe arrived today. Four inches of snow down and still snowing hard but the US Postal Service came through. I
Have never bought such a big model kit.
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Just got Datafile 82 (No, the reprint isn't out yet) and was gratified to see that there were gaudy schemes for the Early version, as well, since I opted to purchase the W.29/F.2A The Duellists. Drawings include 1/48 3-view & 3 sections for the Beaching Trolley, easily blown up to 1/32. IMHO this would solve the problem of trying to display a flying boat's natural element. Got Datafile 55 last Friday, so I'm set.
Regards & Happy New Year, Rob
Both kits include beaching gear, so you won't have to build your own. See pages 12 and 33 of the Duellists instructions.
Peter
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I just got mine today One thing that puzzles me on the black and white dazzle scheme is the one bare panel was this a repair or is there some other reason for that panel ?
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I have the windsock edition on the felixstows, great period reference pics but i found the text disapointing and dull.
A far more interesting read is a 3 part series of articles available as downloadable pdf's on www.seawings.co.uk, also just yesterday my beautiful wife presented me with The Story Of a North Sea Naval Air Station, which looks like a very promising read indeed.
I saw an interesting question posted on Hyperscale today, ''is anyone waiting for online builds to start before starting your own Felixstow ?''
Any takers?
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wow there is some good stuff on the Felix on that seawings site - thank you for the heads up!
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petrov
you're welcome, anybody attempting a WNW Felixstowe could do worse than check out seawings
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I would like to thank you, stevie, too. Great site that seawings! Will be helpful in the build. And yes, I think I will start mine soon. I am not scared to be the first one. However, my kit is still flying half around the Globe but I am already planning... ;)
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Thanks for the link to the Seawings site, some really interesting articles and pictures.
Des.
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The one afternoon I'm not at home and the local post office attempted delivery of mine >:( However, I will be at their door first thing in the morning to collect it :D
In the meantime, I was thinking (dangerous, at best) . . . I wonder, given the space to display the finished model, if we'll see any "18th century ship model admiralty-type" Felixes--half fuselage with detailed interior, added fuselage ribs, etc. Might be interesting.
Mark G.
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I need to finish my Gotha first then I will begin this. I can't have two monster projects going at one time...The top wing is the next step on my Gotha so its not too far, but I have to get it done!
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My WOW - Wall Of Wingnuts, showing yet another example of just how big the Felixstowe is! :)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg61/elarson1123/WNW%20Felixstowe/P1010844_zpse03aa04d.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/elarson1123/media/WNW%20Felixstowe/P1010844_zpse03aa04d.jpg.html)
Cheers,
Eric
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I decided to go through the box this morning and take a close look at the parts. Yes, it's a big box, but to give you a sense of how big the Felixstowe is going to be I compared some parts with a few of my completed Wingnut Wings models:
One lower wing of the Felixstowe is about as long as the wingspan of my completed Fokker Eindecker III and one aileron is as long as one Eindecker wing. One upper wing outer section is longer than the wingspan of my W.29.
I'm going to have to build a turntable rig for my modeling bench and move said bench away from the wall in order to work on it once the wings are in place.
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Very nice stash Eric, it looks very similar to mine except that I have the Gotha as well.
Des.
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I've received my Felixstowe today, the late one. On one hand I'm very happy but on the other hand, 86 € of customs duties, it's quiet excessive >:(
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Unfortunately, the European Union, Poland, I paid 70 euros >:(,customs office in any other interpretation of the provisions.
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Just pulled the trigger on this one, guys. Late last night, with will power at it's lowest. So although I think I've come up with a plan for displaying the completed model, I failed to account for storage of the kit in the stash. Can anyone tell me the box dimensions?
Cheers,
Bud
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Good on you Bud :)
Mine is waiting for me at the post office, and its ailed through customs without any extra cost. How the customs officers missed that large box is a mystery – but a good one! ;D
/Mikael
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Just pulled the trigger on this one, guys. Late last night, with will power at it's lowest. So although I think I've come up with a plan for displaying the completed model, I failed to account for storage of the kit in the stash. Can anyone tell me the box dimensions?
Cheers,
Bud
Bud,
I don't have the measurements but this picture will give you a good idea. :)
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg61/elarson1123/WNW%20Felixstowe/P1010831_zpsf071ceb0.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/elarson1123/media/WNW%20Felixstowe/P1010831_zpsf071ceb0.jpg.html)
Cheers,
Eric
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Bud - the box dimensions are 520mm long x 360mm wide x 150mm deep, quite a big box and quite heavy as well.
Des.
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Thanks, Eric and Des! Not as bad as Bo led me to believe with his post of the box sticking out of the boot of a Fiat.
Glad to see that yours blew by customs, Mikael. Best keep quiet about that. Wouldn't want them to come knocking at your door in the middle of the night, would we?
Cheers,
Bud
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All this customs, VAT, etc. is confusing to this poor American. I do have a question. If I, for example, were to decide to send a kit as a gift to someone i know in the EU, would it be subject to the same duties and VAT as one bought directly from Wingnut Wings?
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All this customs, VAT, etc. is confusing to this poor American. I do have a question. If I, for example, were to decide to send a kit as a gift to someone i know in the EU, would it be subject to the same duties and VAT as one bought directly from Wingnut Wings?
For my country (Bulgaria, part of EU) as long as I prove in some way that this is a gift and not a purchase, there is no VAT as I didn't paid anything for it.
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All this customs, VAT, etc. is confusing to this poor American. I do have a question. If I, for example, were to decide to send a kit as a gift to someone i know in the EU, would it be subject to the same duties and VAT as one bought directly from Wingnut Wings?
If it cost more than £40, yes. You have to fill in a form when you post it saying what the value is. Customs check some on a random basis.
Otherwise it would be a massive loophole. Which, I believe, is being widely used by some retailers. Certain EBay sellers in China will send kits marked at very small values and as gifts, which somehow get to the UK via Germany, absolutely free of customs charges.
interestingly, the WNW website has a tick-box option for "gift", when ordering anything........
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Sorry to jump in late on this discussion -
At my local model club yesterday, I had quite a few members come up to me about this kit (they know I'm into WW1 model aircraft) asking when I'm going to get hold of this kit.
My answer was that I althought the kit is very different, the cost and shear size to adequately display makes this one (unfortunately) a no go kit for me!
The thing of interest here is that other model makers not into WW1 kits are very aware of this latest release and seems to have generated quite a bit of interest and discussion among them. Perhaps this is a good thing as WNW may have caught their imagination which may mean other modellers become interested in having a go at WW1 aviation kits?
Just a thought
Regards
Dave
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I believe you have a valid point Dave. It would appear that size does matter when it comes to a Kit generating interest from outside the normal fan base; I noticed a lot of interest in and comments on the Airfix 1:24 Scale Typhoon here for example.
Cheers,
Lance
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Both valid points. I think some of the buzz, especially in 1/32 is the range of subjects being released, as well as the accuracy, and detail of many of the new kits.
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I think Mike is right - the sheer range of new subjects in 1/32 is absolutely unheralded. HK with their multi-engined WWII bombers have created a whole new market. Silver Wings range of superb resin multi-media interwar subjects in 1/32 is absolutely fantastic, if a little pricey, whilst HPH do some equally lovely kits - their Walrus is my favourite kit, whilst their Catalina is mind-blowingly brilliant. WNW in particular have released models of aeroplanes most people outside of WWI fanatics had never heard of. It's an enormous difference to, say, another 109G6 kit being launched when there are so many in peoples stash already.
The secrecy WNW maintain until the box appears on their website is also unique. It's deeply impressive that no staff or suppliers (mould makers, decal printers, PE manufacturer, boxing suppliers) let even a hint leak out. This creates a level of attention and anticipation - I know I check the WNW website regularly for the latest release.
The tin hat on the whole thing is the "Sold Out" signs that pop up next to kits. Any normal, profit driven company would either get enough kits made to meet demand, or make a further batch as and when required. WNW seems more interested in moving onto the next subject they fancy doing - which is cool - but it certainly drives purchases & hence interest. Hasegawa tend to do the opposite and release so many re-boxes of the same subject that it's hard to keep track!
Before WNW, I'm not sure a single 2 seater kit had ever been released in plastic?
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"Single two seater kit in plastic"? Eduard's F2.b and Walfish come to mind. I'm sure there are more.
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"Single two seater kit in plastic"? Eduard's F2.b and Walfish come to mind. I'm sure there are more.
Sorry, I meant to add in 1/32!
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interestingly, the WNW website has a tick-box option for "gift", when ordering anything........
This made no difference for the last three of my orders - customs always charged, depite the parcels being declared as gift or not. You should NOT rely on them accepting the "it's a gift, not a purchase"-speech.
Stefan
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interestingly, the WNW website has a tick-box option for "gift", when ordering anything........
This made no difference for the last three of my orders - customs always charged, depite the parcels being declared as gift or not. You should NOT rely on them accepting the "it's a gift, not a purchase"-speech.
Stefan
It hasn't made any difference for me neither.
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interestingly, the WNW website has a tick-box option for "gift", when ordering anything........
This made no difference for the last three of my orders - customs always charged, depite the parcels being declared as gift or not. You should NOT rely on them accepting the "it's a gift, not a purchase"-speech.
Stefan
It used to make a difference, back when the kits were first sold at $59 for the single seaters - that used to sneak in under the gift allowance, depending upon how strong Sterling was when Parcelforce applied the calculations.
I've also seen Parcelforce use NZ$ as the purchase price, rather than US$'s, and convert to Sterling accordingly. That helps!
The prices are too high for the gift option in the UK now, but if Sterling climbs a lot it may come back into play, and it may benefit other people in other countries who may have different rules to the UK.
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Just pulled the trigger on this one, guys. Late last night, with will power at it's lowest. So although I think I've come up with a plan for displaying the completed model, I failed to account for storage of the kit in the stash. Can anyone tell me the box dimensions?
Cheers,
Bud
Where are you going to put this Bud? :o
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whilst their Catalina is mind-blowingly brilliant.
@Kai, don't want to get off topic here but have you seen one of these 1/32 Catalina kits? It's a plane my dad was most involved with, both flying in and writing about, and this kit is of interest to me....but I have no place where I might actually see one.
Thanks,
MIchael