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Title: Copper States Models N-17 late version Completed
Post by: Alexis on February 05, 2019, 12:02:23 PM: It was a very hard choice on picking something from the stash for the tribute on Des's memories . So I order myself WNW Halbie late version . There was a few issues , but Dave came through and got things shorted and my kit is on the way .
I wanted something very special and Copper States kit won and is my entry .
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Post by: Alexis on February 05, 2019, 12:03:30 PM: and the goodies in side the box
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Post by: aliluke on February 05, 2019, 03:57:53 PM: Looking forward to this as I have the same kit and I'm already following all the builds - ruthlessly seeking hints and tips...

Cheers
Alistair
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Post by: RAGIII on February 05, 2019, 07:56:20 PM: excellent choice T. I know you will do it well!
RAGIII
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Post by: coyotemagic on February 06, 2019, 04:50:37 AM: Looking forward to watching this one come together, T! It's a great kit. You're gonna love it!
Cheers,
Bud
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Post by: Alexis on February 06, 2019, 11:23:06 AM: Thank-you guys , should be able to start cutting parts free this weekend .

Terri
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Post by: Borsos on February 09, 2019, 07:58:51 AM: Great kit — great choice. You will love it!
Best regards
Andreas
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Post by: GAJouette on February 09, 2019, 09:49:59 AM: Terri,
Looking forward to following along my old friend. The best of luck to you.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Post by: gbrivio on February 09, 2019, 05:38:28 PM: It's a very nice kit, you will enjoy it.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Post by: Monty on February 10, 2019, 01:08:32 AM: It will be lovely to see this take shape! A good choice and very topical!
Regards,
Marc
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Post by: Alexis on February 10, 2019, 08:28:30 AM: Thanks guys :)

I made a start by cutting the bags open and smelling the plastic ! Then it was droll over the parts for bit before I started cutting the wing parts free and the engine . Top wing is glued up and drying making this easy for the rest of the clean up . Clean up on engine is next followed by paint .
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Post by: Alexis on February 10, 2019, 08:29:14 AM: Top wing

Terri
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Post by: RAGIII on February 10, 2019, 08:38:03 AM: Good start T. I guess I better finish mine so I can concentrate on yours 8)
RAGIII
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Post by: Edo on February 10, 2019, 06:54:39 PM: hey Terri!
it seems we are off a very similar path... ;) it will be fun!
I hope to “steall from you some more tips as I did back in the past!
ciao
edo
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Post by: Juan on February 10, 2019, 11:24:13 PM: Great subject Terri, looking forward to more of your progress.
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Post by: Gisbod on February 11, 2019, 12:29:21 AM: Nice start Terri,

I’m keen to see how these kits turn out...

Guy
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Post by: Alexis on February 11, 2019, 10:26:28 AM: Rick , Edo , Juan and Guy . Thanks for dropping by with encouragement :)

Edo , steal away !

Well today was rather productive in front of the bench . I put on some Heldmaschine and rock out one would say . Engine halves are join and the cylinder tops in place with rest of the parts cleaned up and black based for the start of the metal painting . Cowl has been black based as well . This will need a few days to fully dry . If not the Vallejo metal paint will from cracks later on . Learn't my lesson using these paints the first time , will not make it again . All the cockpit parts ( I think ) are freed and waiting clean up while the black basing dries .

Terri
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Post by: Alexis on February 11, 2019, 10:27:11 AM: cockpit parts
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Post by: Kalt on February 14, 2019, 05:39:31 AM: Good Choice Terri, My favourite aircraft!
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Post by: Monty on February 18, 2019, 01:51:27 AM: This is taking great shape, Terri. I completely agree about letting the black undercoat dry completely... been there, done that, brought out the paint stripper...! Regards, Marc
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Post by: pepperman42 on February 19, 2019, 12:27:53 AM: Great start!!

Steve
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Post by: Alexis on February 25, 2019, 03:51:12 AM: Thanks for following along guys :)

Progress is coming along buy it is taking me a bit longer then what I was figuring on . Having to wear glass now it has been a learning curve on getting my eyes to adjust

The parts have their colour coats on with detailing painting to start next . Wooden areas are ready to go and the shine will be toned down once the weathering and final sealant coats are on . Engine is also set for weathering , working on the spark leads now but not pictured yet .
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Post by: Alexis on February 25, 2019, 03:52:07 AM: :)
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Post by: Alexis on February 25, 2019, 03:52:51 AM: :)
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Post by: Alexis on February 25, 2019, 03:53:25 AM: :)
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Post by: Alexis on February 25, 2019, 03:54:01 AM: :)
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Post by: Alexis on February 25, 2019, 03:54:53 AM: And the cowling :)

Terri
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Post by: coyotemagic on February 25, 2019, 05:46:00 AM: Very fine work thus far, Terri!
Cheers,
Bud
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Post by: gbrivio on February 25, 2019, 07:04:10 AM: Very nice work so far, looking forward for next steps.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Post by: RAGIII on February 25, 2019, 10:39:16 AM: Quote from: coyotemagic on February 25, 2019, 05:46:00 AM
Very fine work thus far, Terri!
Cheers,
Bud

I agree with My Amigo of course T! Excellent engine and work to date!
RAGIII
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Post by: Edo on February 25, 2019, 03:58:29 PM: yes I like the engine very much... you obtained a very realistc shade on the cylinders!
ciao edo
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Post by: Alexis on March 03, 2019, 02:22:07 AM: Thanks guys for the positive comments :) I still doing the detail painting and hoping to have it finished this weekend depending if my cold will work with me instead of against me .

Terri
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Post by: guitarlute101 on March 03, 2019, 04:30:02 AM: Very nice work Terri, following closely.

Mark
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Post by: Kalt on March 03, 2019, 10:26:23 PM: Good progress Terri!, I like the color of the wood.
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Post by: kensar on March 04, 2019, 12:00:57 AM: Finished this weekend? that would be very ambitious for me!
You are making good progress and the results are great.
I will be following along as I am interested in this kit.
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Post by: Juan on March 04, 2019, 01:30:41 AM: Great work Terri, hope you feel better and get some modeling time in.
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Post by: Monty on March 04, 2019, 04:13:53 AM: Excellent progress and a great engine there, Terri! I'm enjoying this lovely kit... Marc
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Post by: GAJouette on March 04, 2019, 02:30:06 PM: Terri,
Outstanding progress my old friend. Keep up the excellence!
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Post by: wmoran on March 04, 2019, 02:59:25 PM: Great job so far.

I know what you mean about having to adjust to wearing glasses. Since I got back into the hobby a year or two back, I have been trying to adjust to my changing eyesight. It's been a real challenge.

Bill
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Post by: Mike Norris on March 04, 2019, 07:25:49 PM: Hi Terri,
Nice work so far.
The engine and cowl turned out nice as well.
I must admit I tend to use 'Alclad' black base then Duraluminium for metal work, which I find gives a nice finish, especially for adding chipping effects etc.
I've not started my CSM Nieuport yet, but seeing yours, Buds and others I must start it soon,

Mike
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Post by: Alexis on March 05, 2019, 11:57:16 AM: Thanks guys for dropping by and having a peek :) It's amazing what being drugged up on cold meds will lead someone ...

I did get some bench time over the weekend between many , many naps ! Almost finished up with the detail painting , few more bits here and there . Weathering for the most part is finished and just neat seal it all in now .
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Post by: Alexis on March 05, 2019, 11:57:49 AM: :)
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Post by: Alexis on March 05, 2019, 11:58:28 AM: :)
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Post by: Alexis on March 05, 2019, 11:59:03 AM: :)
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Post by: coyotemagic on March 05, 2019, 01:33:51 PM: Truly magnificent work, T! Love your various wood tones and your weathering is brilliant.
Cheers,
Bud
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Post by: RAGIII on March 05, 2019, 11:24:05 PM: Quote from: coyotemagic on March 05, 2019, 01:33:51 PM
Truly magnificent work, T! Love your various wood tones and your weathering is brilliant.
Cheers,
Bud

I agree with Bud completely T. I also love the variation in your wood tones!
RAGIII
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Post by: Rob Hart on March 05, 2019, 11:45:26 PM: Terri,

Outstanding detail work! I agree with the other comments about the high quality of your wood tone representations.
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Post by: GAJouette on March 06, 2019, 03:36:01 AM: Terri,
As always Amazing works fly from your bench my old friend. Looking forward to seeing more.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Post by: pepperman42 on March 06, 2019, 08:02:55 AM: Nice work!!

Steve
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Post by: Borsos on March 06, 2019, 10:39:22 PM: Very pretty interior!
Andreas
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Post by: Alexis on March 08, 2019, 11:44:15 AM: Glad you guys like how my wood turned out . I'm a little disappointed in the darker wood , but it is what it is and I do hope a flat coat will bring it into more perspective . Weekend is among me once more and feeling 100 times better will have more progress over the weekend .

Terri
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Post by: gbrivio on March 08, 2019, 10:17:02 PM: Great paintwork, can't wait to see these put together.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Post by: guitarlute101 on March 08, 2019, 10:21:01 PM: Excellent work Terri, I really like how you painted that firewall. Looking forward to more.

Mark
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Post by: Alexis on March 09, 2019, 11:48:26 PM: Thank-you Giuseppe and Mark :)

Mark , I as well really like how the firewall turned out . Sad that once the engine and cowl are in place the detail is mostly hidden . This kit has beautiful detail and I'm really enjoying the build :)

Terri
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Post by: Gisbod on March 10, 2019, 06:42:26 PM: Looks very nice Terri,

Good work!

Guy
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Post by: Alexis on March 11, 2019, 01:01:18 AM: Thanks Guy :)

Terri
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Post by: Alexis on March 12, 2019, 11:12:51 AM: Turned out to be a busy weekend for me in front of the bench . Made a fare bit of progress , but I still have work to do in the cockpit before I can call this part of assembly finished . Rear fuselage parts got glued up as well and ready for a tiny bit of putty and sanding . This is almost a dame near perfect fit .
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Post by: Alexis on March 12, 2019, 11:13:33 AM: another view
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Post by: Alexis on March 12, 2019, 11:14:20 AM: A teaser
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Post by: Alexis on March 12, 2019, 11:14:50 AM: :)
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Post by: Alexis on March 12, 2019, 11:15:20 AM: :)
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Post by: kensar on March 12, 2019, 09:56:33 PM: That interior is sufficiently busy. Lookin' good.
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Post by: Ryan on March 12, 2019, 10:10:48 PM: Quote from: Terri on March 05, 2019, 11:57:49 AM
:)

I really like the detail painting of this part.
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Post by: jknaus on March 13, 2019, 02:02:53 AM: Looks super Terri. I really like the richness of the wood tones. Watching with great interest.
James
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Post by: RAGIII on March 13, 2019, 04:26:18 AM: Nice T! You are past the challenging parts now and ready to move on to final assembly and painting. I am sure you will WoW all of us!
RAGIII
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Post by: lone modeller on March 14, 2019, 05:05:08 AM: I am catching up Terri because I have been away (again) and cannot keep up with everyone's build here. Your cockpit interior is truly super - such detail and in my opinion, the correct colours for the wood and metal. This is shaping up to be a truly great build.

Stephen.
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Post by: Alexis on March 15, 2019, 09:05:50 AM: Hey guys , thanks a bunch for the positive comments , you guys are the best ! :)

Ken , it is busy a pit with details , which is right up my alley ;)

I tell you Ryan , it was not easy painting that happy face .... ;)

James , even though I'm not over happy with the wood tones your renforcement on it weights lots on me . Thanks :)

Rick , I will try my best to WoW you guys with few mistakes as possible :)

Stephen , like James has mention in his post as well as others on the wood tones . Danke Schon ! :)

Once again , that you all !

Terri
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Post by: Alexis on March 18, 2019, 09:05:47 AM: It was a busy weekend in front of the bench and made pretty good progress .
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Post by: Alexis on March 18, 2019, 09:06:27 AM: :)
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Post by: Alexis on March 18, 2019, 09:15:04 AM: Made a start on the side panels with a base coat of Tamiya wooden deck . This will be left to dry for 24 hours then I can start cutting stripes of masking tape to mask individual plankes ...

Terri
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Post by: RAGIII on March 18, 2019, 09:26:10 AM: Beautifully painted and well assembled T. Looking fantastic!!
RAGIII
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Post by: Alexis on March 18, 2019, 09:10:41 PM: Thanks Rick :)

Terri
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Post by: Alexis on March 19, 2019, 12:09:22 PM: I finally got the engine done . Kept getting side tracked with other kit parts seeking attention ;) Also made start on the panels using art pencil with two different colours alternating between planks then blending it together a bit with a q-tip and that is as far as I have gotten .
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Post by: Alexis on March 19, 2019, 12:10:03 PM: :)
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Post by: Alexis on March 19, 2019, 12:10:50 PM: :)

Terri
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Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on March 19, 2019, 01:51:12 PM: Wow, Terri! That is a fine looking Nieuport. You can tell you like this machine! ;)

Keep up the good work...Dan
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Post by: PrzemoL on March 20, 2019, 08:36:39 PM: Very nice work all around!
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Post by: RAGIII on March 20, 2019, 09:33:47 PM: Lovely work as always T!
RAGIII
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Post by: Gisbod on March 21, 2019, 12:00:05 AM: Looks super Terri!

Guy
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Post by: guitarlute101 on March 21, 2019, 12:04:37 AM: Progressing nicely Terri! Love that wood graining.

Mark
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Post by: gbrivio on March 21, 2019, 03:49:02 AM: Beautiful engine and side panels.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Post by: Alexis on March 21, 2019, 11:38:57 AM: Hi guys , thank-you very much for the king comments and the ongoing encouragement 8)

Dan , the N-16 and 17 are my favorite French fighters and so far this build is nothing but smiles ! :)

Today's step was to start airbrushing the clear layers . I first thinned down some Tamiya smoke for oil staining along the bottom of the panels and up around the hatches , this was followed by many layers of Tamiya clear yellow . Struts and wind screen parts are also painted up as well . Metal bands on the struts still need to painted ...and the the weathering can begin .
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Post by: Alexis on March 21, 2019, 11:39:39 AM: :)

Terri
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Post by: coyotemagic on March 21, 2019, 12:47:30 PM: Very tasty, T! Very tasty, indeed!
Cheers,
Bud
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Post by: FokkerFodder on March 21, 2019, 05:24:03 PM: I really like those golden wood tones. Cheers Matt
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Post by: Alexis on March 23, 2019, 12:52:14 PM: Thank-you Bud and Matt :) Bud , it's not for eating no matter how tasty it looks ;) Matt , the golden tone will be toned down bit more after weathering and I'm hoping that it all blends in together .

Terri
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Post by: RAGIII on March 23, 2019, 10:30:12 PM: I really like the staining effect T. Well done!
RAGIII
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Post by: pepperman42 on March 24, 2019, 03:29:10 PM: Very nice effects!!

Steve
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Post by: ondra on March 24, 2019, 05:20:02 PM: Excellent work so far, Terri, pure joy to follow.

Cheers

Ondra
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Post by: Alexis on March 25, 2019, 08:46:52 AM: Hi Guys ! Hey , thanks a bunch 8)

Made a bit more progress over the weekend , okay a fair bit of progress actual . Side panels are done , same as the prop . Land gearing and wheels are well under way with weathering still to follow . Guns are done for the most part as well as the rudder which still needs the second round of decals . All other bits are painted/weathered or waiting weathering until assembled . I tried to get the best fit possible with out the use of to much filler . Not show is the upper decking I painted the underside the shade as the framing and flooring . Tail planes is fixed place and tail skid painted up which still needs a bit more work .
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Post by: Alexis on March 25, 2019, 08:47:37 AM: :)
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Post by: Alexis on March 25, 2019, 08:48:07 AM: :)
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Post by: Alexis on March 25, 2019, 08:48:35 AM: :)
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Post by: Alexis on March 25, 2019, 08:53:53 AM: continued from page 7 , 11 more update pic's there .

Terri
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Post by: Kalt on March 25, 2019, 10:06:24 AM: Quote from: Terri on March 25, 2019, 08:46:52 AM
Hi Guys ! Hey , thanks a bunch 8)

Made a bit more progress over the weekend , okay a fair bit of progress actual . Side panels are done , same as the prop . Land gearing and wheels are well under way with weathering still to follow . Guns are done for the most part as well as the rudder which still needs the second round of decals . All other bits are painted/weathered or waiting weathering until assembled . I tried to get the best fit possible with out the use of to much filler . Not show is the upper decking I painted the underside the shade as the framing and flooring . Tail planes is fixed place and tail skid painted up which still needs a bit more work .

Beautiful wood effect!
which colors and techniques did you use?
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Post by: kensar on March 25, 2019, 09:40:10 PM: You've made a lot of progress. It looks great. I like the wood panelling on the fuse sides.
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Post by: RAGIII on March 25, 2019, 09:53:13 PM: Looking awesome T! The Lewis and Vickers are very well done! You are really progressing n this one!
RAGIII
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Post by: Ryan on March 25, 2019, 10:36:55 PM: Terri,

Clean, precise work, well done.

Ryan
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Post by: lone modeller on March 27, 2019, 03:35:28 AM: The details on those machine guns is truly amazing. The colours which you have used to emphasise details are super - in fact the whole model is super! Looking forward to seeing tis one finished.

Stephen.
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Post by: Alexis on March 27, 2019, 11:26:51 AM: Glad that you guys are enjoying the build just as much as I'm . :) Thanks for your support ! Was going to start airbrushing the primer for the fuselage and top wing , but it's raining right now , nothing like those spring showers to freshen things up and hamper my plans . Should be able to start tomorrow or the next day ...maybe :'(

Kalt , I did the side panels in this order .

1. base primer Tamiya wooden deck tan . Let this dry for at least 12 hours .

2. I used two different shades of artist pencil crayons alternating between the two shade skipping the odd space so it didn't look uniforum .

3. I then used a q-tip and rub the whole surface in circle .

4. I thinned Tamiya smoke and sprayed that along the wing root area and inspection hatches until I was pleased with the effect . Then I made one pass along all the edges of the panels .

5. Next many , many thin coats of tamiya clear yellow was built up . Set side for 24 hours to dry .

6. A wash was then applied using Flory Models line ( brown ) and let this dry . Wipe off the excess

7. This was all sealed with Testors dull coat to dull it and blend it all together .

Terri
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Post by: Alexis on March 28, 2019, 12:16:16 PM: Success was had today ! By the end of the day the weather started to behave and was able to do a bit of airbrushing . Prime coat is on :) Will let this dry for 24 hours , then comes the Vallejo Metal coat - white aluminum . Also got a wash on the wheels and undercarriage . Still need to choose a scheme and find rigging manitrail , wasn't able to get easyline .

What size of mono line are you guys using ? I have 0.23mm which is way to big ! In the cockpit I used smoke thread and stretched spuce and that didn't go very well for me .
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Post by: Alexis on March 28, 2019, 12:16:55 PM: :)

Terri
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Post by: Kalt on March 28, 2019, 02:07:24 PM: Quote from: Terri on March 27, 2019, 11:26:51 AM
Glad that you guys are enjoying the build just as much as I'm . :) Thanks for your support ! Was going to start airbrushing the primer for the fuselage and top wing , but it's raining right now , nothing like those spring showers to freshen things up and hamper my plans . Should be able to start tomorrow or the next day ...maybe :'(

Kalt , I did the side panels in this order .

1. base primer Tamiya wooden deck tan . Let this dry for at least 12 hours .

2. I used two different shades of artist pencil crayons alternating between the two shade skipping the odd space so it didn't look uniforum .

3. I then used a q-tip and rub the whole surface in circle .

4. I thinned Tamiya smoke and sprayed that along the wing root area and inspection hatches until I was pleased with the effect . Then I made one pass along all the edges of the panels .

5. Next many , many thin coats of tamiya clear yellow was built up . Set side for 24 hours to dry .

6. A wash was then applied using Flory Models line ( brown ) and let this dry . Wipe off the excess

7. This was all sealed with Testors dull coat to dull it and blend it all together .

Terri

Thanks Terri!, I will try to use your technique
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Post by: kensar on March 28, 2019, 09:49:04 PM: "What size of mono line are you guys using ?"

I use 0.005" (0.127 mm) for most rigging, which is 0.16" in full scale, and 0.007" (0.178 mm) sometimes.
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Post by: Alexis on March 29, 2019, 12:33:26 PM: Your welcome Kalt :) Thanks Ken , this gives me something to go by now .

Got paint ? ..... Yup !
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Post by: Alexis on March 29, 2019, 12:34:15 PM: :)

Terri
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Post by: Edo on March 29, 2019, 03:41:46 PM: so neat Terri!
besutiful work indeed!
ciao
edo
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Post by: RAGIII on March 29, 2019, 09:58:07 PM: Beautiful smooth Aluminum finish Terri!
RAGIII
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Post by: ermeio on March 30, 2019, 06:29:24 AM: excellent work, Terri
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Post by: Alexis on March 30, 2019, 09:28:18 AM: Thanks guys :) I'm off to the bench to start clear coating for decals , which I hope to start applying them tomorrow . More to follow very soon ......

Terri
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Post by: Alexis on March 31, 2019, 12:13:15 AM: Okay , decals are on and most of the detail painting is done . Will be able to start the weathering this afternoon and start making turnbuckles .

I did have an issue with the 7 on the right side of the fuselage and will need to touch this up with paint .
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Post by: Alexis on March 31, 2019, 12:13:47 AM: :)
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Post by: Alexis on March 31, 2019, 12:14:16 AM: :)
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Post by: RAGIII on March 31, 2019, 12:26:18 AM: Looks FANTASTIC with the Markings applied T!
RAGIII
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Post by: Alexis on March 31, 2019, 05:56:39 AM: Thanks Rick 8)

Terri
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Post by: dr 1 ace on March 31, 2019, 07:37:54 AM: Late to the party, but looking VERY Good !!

Ed
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Post by: kensar on March 31, 2019, 06:02:22 PM: Looking good, Terri.
For me, models always start to come alive when decals/markings are added, even if they are minimal.
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Post by: Edo on March 31, 2019, 06:05:00 PM: well done terri!
i like the shade you gave to the aluminium.... what did you use?
ciao
edo
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Post by: ermeio on March 31, 2019, 11:35:25 PM: I have the very same question of Edo: what paint brand did you use for the aluminium?
the tone is looking like the real one
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Post by: Borsos on April 01, 2019, 12:30:59 AM: Very brautiful progress here. I also like the aluminum tone.
Andreas
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Post by: Alexis on April 02, 2019, 12:23:01 PM: Hi guys , thanks for following along . It's great encouragement :)

Edo and Ermeio . For the alum I used Vallejo Metal Coat white Alum .

Here is my progress over the weekend . Weather is done and every thing is seal up . Just assembly and rigging left do to . I started making the turn buckles , but still have a few more to make up .
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Post by: Alexis on April 02, 2019, 12:23:40 PM: :)
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Post by: Alexis on April 02, 2019, 12:24:18 PM: :)
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Post by: Alexis on April 02, 2019, 12:24:56 PM: :) Starts on page 9
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Post by: Alexis on April 02, 2019, 12:25:58 PM: :)
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Post by: Alexis on April 02, 2019, 12:26:26 PM: :)
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Post by: Alexis on April 02, 2019, 12:27:12 PM: :) I'm very pleased on how the tail skid turned out !
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Post by: Juan on April 02, 2019, 10:09:19 PM: Terri, your Weathering is looking great (along with the rest I might add).
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Post by: Alexis on April 03, 2019, 09:03:56 AM: Thank-you Juan for the kind comment :)

Terri
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Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on April 03, 2019, 10:30:32 AM: That is truly lovely. I too like the subtle weathering. Neat look on the cable openings in the fuse.

Well done.

Dan
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Post by: Borsos on April 03, 2019, 02:54:44 PM: Wonderful progress! I also love the way you did the weathering.
Andreas
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Post by: RAGIII on April 03, 2019, 10:04:49 PM: Lovely work T. I Like the subtle weathering a lot!
RAGIII
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Post by: Alexis on April 04, 2019, 09:43:41 AM: Thank-you guys !

I didn't want to over do it with the weathering and I didn't highlight the rib tapes either . I used a grey wash inand some areas a rub of pastels with a light sand just on the stitching . Worked out rather well ;D

Terri , who is still making turnbuckles
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Post by: gbrivio on April 04, 2019, 07:17:49 PM: I've been missing a few updates, this is coming beautiful. I really like your metalised painting and these livery and weathering are giving real life to your Nieuport.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Post by: PrzemoL on April 05, 2019, 05:40:47 PM: Truly lovely progress, Terri. Fine job on silver dope, decalling and weathering.
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Post by: Alexis on April 06, 2019, 09:34:21 AM: Thanks guys 8)

Terri , yup , still making turnbuckles ....
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Post by: andonio64 on April 07, 2019, 01:59:31 AM: What a beautiful work on this Terri! I enjoyed each step you made so far.

Antonio
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Post by: Alexis on April 07, 2019, 10:46:58 PM: Thanks Antonio :)

Was able to finishing off making the turnbuckles and fixed them in place . I must say that this was a new challenge having to wear glass , but I pulled it off with a little frustration ( almost binned it :-X ) .

Everything is ready to go for the rigging now . I glued the inter struts to the wing instead of the lower wing which is called out in the instructions . I found that it lined up better and less gluing points in the end . I haven't glued to the wing , engine , cowl and prop yet . They are fitting in place for the photos .

Next up-date I should have this wrapped up ....
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Post by: Alexis on April 07, 2019, 10:47:33 PM: :) update starts on page 10
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Post by: Alexis on April 07, 2019, 10:48:48 PM: :)
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Post by: RAGIII on April 07, 2019, 10:55:28 PM: Looks Fantastic with the upper wing mounted T. I really like your prop also!
RAGIII
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Post by: Alexis on April 08, 2019, 01:39:17 AM: Thanks Rick :)

Terri
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Post by: Alexis on April 08, 2019, 12:28:55 PM: Didn't quite get the rigging done , but the main wings are rigged and same as the undercarriage . Still have the tail plane and rudder which will be tackled over the week . The instructions called for 0.1mm for the main rigging so I used smoked mono sewing thread which is 0.1mm .
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Post by: Alexis on April 08, 2019, 12:29:25 PM: :)
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Post by: Alexis on April 08, 2019, 12:29:56 PM: :)
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Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on April 08, 2019, 01:15:38 PM: Terri,

Your smiley face is an understatement. I'd try :o or ;D next time.

Neat job!

Dan
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Post by: Edo on April 08, 2019, 02:49:16 PM: beautiful! really beautyful!
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Post by: Brad Cancian on April 08, 2019, 05:25:13 PM: Looking great Terri!

Cheers,

BC
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Post by: RAGIII on April 08, 2019, 10:52:39 PM: Your rigging an buckles are coming along nicely T !
RAGIII
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Post by: Alexis on April 09, 2019, 10:28:03 AM: Thanks a lot guys :)

Dan , will try my best to use a different moji ;)

Terri
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Post by: gbrivio on April 09, 2019, 05:14:20 PM: Very nice finishing and rigging.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Post by: Alexis on April 09, 2019, 11:07:36 PM: Thanks G !

Terri
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Post by: Alexis on April 11, 2019, 10:52:52 AM: Okay , I would have any up-date if it was a pleasant one . Did not have success in front of the bench last night . Start to rig the controls and the line I was using ...not so good . It is braided line and would not pull through the eyelets . Kept snagging and I ended up ruining the buckles on the rudder and two on the tail plane . Damaged the paint on the fuselage . I'm leaving this sit for awhile before I really mess it up .

Terri
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Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on April 12, 2019, 03:57:02 AM: Ouch, Terri! Take a break and you'll get it done.

Can't wait to see it back in the saddle...Dan
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Post by: RAGIII on April 12, 2019, 06:55:58 AM: Sorry to hear of your difficulty with the tail rigging T :( On the plus side I know you will beat the problem after you walk away for a while. Hopefully not long ;)
RAGIII
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Post by: Ryan on April 12, 2019, 07:11:30 AM: Been there many times Terry, you will sort it out.

Ryan
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Post by: pepperman42 on April 12, 2019, 09:10:48 AM: Im just catching up and saw all the success. The 17 looks great!! Stepping away for a bit then re evaluating the problem areas is a good idea.

Steve
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Post by: Alexis on April 13, 2019, 11:15:29 AM: Thank-you so much for the support guys . I finally went and sat done in front of the bench with a new set of eyes today . Turnbuckles are an easy fix . The paint I will need to think about this . Vallejo Metal coats don't sand well at all . It will make it even worse then what it is now . Support strut of the lower tail also needs attention as well . I will let this sit for a few days before I start .
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Post by: Alexis on April 13, 2019, 11:16:04 AM: :'(
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Post by: RAGIII on April 13, 2019, 08:24:24 PM: Looks like something you will be able to handle with no real problem T. If worst comes to worst throw some dirt over that small glitch in the paint :-X
RAGIII
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Post by: FokkerFodder on April 13, 2019, 10:41:27 PM: Another lovely noop - I’m sure once she’s finished you won’t even be able to see these minor things! However we have all been there so understand the frustration at these small setbacks. Cheers Matt
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Post by: lone modeller on April 14, 2019, 04:51:15 AM: Just as I thought you were heading for a super finish.... ugh! Yes we have all been there Terri - but remember that what we see as a major flaw on our models others barely notice -(even if they see it). Like the others I am completely confident that you will overcome this problem and will finish with another super model.

Stephen.
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Post by: kensar on April 14, 2019, 10:19:05 PM: Should be fixable, Terri. Just take your time and think things through.
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Post by: Alexis on April 14, 2019, 10:43:32 PM: Thanks a bunch guys for your support :)

Well I was working on another project the N-17 was staring me at calling me , taunting ...just wouldn't leave me alone . So I started with the repairs ....
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Post by: Alexis on April 14, 2019, 10:44:43 PM: And under a fresh coat of paint ....
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Post by: Alexis on April 14, 2019, 10:46:43 PM: With the ending results ...she is finished ! Will have better pic's later once the sun comes up ;)
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Post by: Alexis on April 14, 2019, 10:47:28 PM: ;)

Terri
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Post by: RAGIII on April 14, 2019, 10:55:08 PM: Excellent repairs and it Looks Awesome T! I am looking forward to the final shots.
RAGIII
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Post by: Juan on April 14, 2019, 11:48:23 PM: Great bounce back Terri, she looks great.
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Post by: Alexis on April 15, 2019, 01:36:53 AM: Thank you Rick and Juan ;D Wasn't able to fully match the weathering to many filter layers , but it did turn out really good though . Better then what I was expecting .
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Post by: Alexis on April 15, 2019, 01:37:45 AM: ;), for Dan :-X
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Post by: Alexis on April 15, 2019, 01:38:20 AM: :)
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Post by: Alexis on April 15, 2019, 01:38:57 AM: :)
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Post by: Alexis on April 15, 2019, 01:40:14 AM: ;D
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Post by: Alexis on April 15, 2019, 01:40:58 AM: :o
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Post by: Alexis on April 15, 2019, 01:41:40 AM: 8)
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Post by: Alexis on April 15, 2019, 01:42:20 AM: :)
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Post by: Alexis on April 15, 2019, 01:42:57 AM: ;)
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Post by: Alexis on April 15, 2019, 01:43:33 AM: ;D
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Post by: Alexis on April 15, 2019, 01:44:08 AM: 8) repaired side
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Post by: Alexis on April 15, 2019, 01:44:54 AM: ;)
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Post by: Alexis on April 15, 2019, 01:45:36 AM: ;)
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Post by: Alexis on April 15, 2019, 01:47:30 AM: Thank-you guys for following along on my build . I tried to have this a perfect build for Des and in the end I think it did :)

This one is for you Des ...
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Post by: Radarman on April 15, 2019, 01:56:38 AM: Terri, Your build is a great tribute to Des and a real inspiration to everyone. Looks fantastic.
Kevin
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Post by: pepperman42 on April 15, 2019, 02:52:52 AM: Great save and a great final result!!

Steve
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Post by: ermeio on April 15, 2019, 02:58:08 AM: Great Nieuport, Terri
it is a most convincing rendition of the real one
er me
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Post by: RAGIII on April 15, 2019, 03:51:52 AM: Lovely results Terri! Looks stunning sitting on that base. A Terrific Tribute to Des.
RAGIII
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Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on April 15, 2019, 06:38:15 AM: Terri,

Just adding my congrats. I came back from a local show and your Nieuport looks fabulous and would have taken a ribbon!

Nice save...Dan
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Post by: Edo on April 15, 2019, 02:56:15 PM: I do agree with all the others: this is a real masterpiece!
very beautiful!
ciao
edo
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Post by: Gisbod on April 15, 2019, 04:27:27 PM: Lovely Terri!

Guy
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Post by: Manni on April 15, 2019, 04:39:39 PM: Great work, Terri!
The complete model looks beautiful, nice display.
Bye,
Manni
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Post by: andonio64 on April 15, 2019, 05:09:33 PM: WOW Terri that's terri-fying!
Great work
Antonio
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Post by: kensar on April 15, 2019, 09:20:54 PM: The repairs look fine, Terri.

I would say this is a fitting tribute to Des.
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Post by: gbrivio on April 16, 2019, 03:47:05 AM: Beautiful Ni17, finishing is top class!
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Post by: lone modeller on April 16, 2019, 04:12:50 AM: That is a really good recovery Terri. I can hear Des saying thank you!

Stephen.
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Post by: Rob Hart on April 16, 2019, 05:14:52 AM: Outstanding result!
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Post by: Alexis on April 16, 2019, 09:44:14 AM: Wow , wasn't expecting this many replies . Little overwhelmed I am . Thank-you so much guys for the very kind and encouraging words and letting me take part in the GB . 8)

Terri
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Post by: dr 1 ace on April 24, 2019, 05:26:36 AM: Well deserved compliments above and I'm in agreement !!!!

Ed
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Post by: aliluke on April 25, 2019, 02:56:48 PM: Superb Terri. A rendition that the master himself, Des, would very be proud of!

Cheers
Alistair
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Post by: Alexis on April 26, 2019, 09:36:57 AM: Thank you Ed and Alistair for the very kind comments :)

Terri
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Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on April 26, 2019, 01:12:56 PM: Wow, Terri...that's a winner! And as was posted, Des would have been proud.

I really enjoyed your build. An elegant machine to say the least. Well done...

Dan
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Post by: Borsos on April 26, 2019, 05:58:04 PM: Great model, you built a wonderful replica of this machine.
Andreas
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Post by: Alexis on April 27, 2019, 09:31:56 AM: Thanks Dan for following along and glad you enjoyed the build as much as I did l It truly is a wonderful kit and Des would have enjoyed building it just as we all have been doing . He is smiling down on us :)

Andreas , thank-you as well for your kind comments and following the build 8)

Terri
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Post by: PrzemoL on May 07, 2019, 08:59:16 AM: Late to the party, but let me join the chorus - a lovely little model you have built, Terri. Congratulations!
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Post by: Edo on May 07, 2019, 02:50:58 PM: it is a beauty, Terri!
very good!!!
ciao
edo
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Post by: Alexis on May 08, 2019, 10:17:34 AM: Thanks guys for the kind comments :)

Terri
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Post by: Brad Cancian on May 09, 2019, 04:10:45 PM: Beautiful work Terri! A wonderful job!

Cheers,

BC
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Post by: Alexis on May 11, 2019, 10:58:38 AM: Thanks Brad :)

Terri