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Title: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: huberlu on January 20, 2020, 06:17:02 AM
Happy New Year!!!


New year ... new plane.


It will be him:

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f44/18/28/16/13/01574510.jpg)

Or something like that.




I gathered some documents:

Windsock data file # 12 and # 92
"Le Fana de l'aviation" N ° 579

Full images of a restored Belgian Hanriot:

http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61062&page=2]http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61062&page=2]http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61062&page=2 (http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61062&page=2)

Photos (there are also other planes):

https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/media/hanriot-hd-2-code-d47-french-navy.27522/]https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/media/hanriot-hd-2-code-d47-french-navy.27522/]https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/media/hanriot-hd-2-code-d47-french-navy.27522/ (https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/media/hanriot-hd-2-code-d47-french-navy.27522/)


The kit shows some oversights:

The rear part of the fuselage should be redone to look like this:

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f44/18/28/16/13/img_2810.jpg)

(https://servimg.com/view/18281613/36][img]https://i.servimg.com/u/f44/18/28/16/13/3e050e10.jpg)

The hatches at the front of the fuselage will probably have to be moved. I can open one of the two.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49347738412_e859faf8e6_c.jpg)

The slot under the engine hood must be drilled.

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f44/18/28/16/13/captur10.png)


The two parts that must be assembled to form the engine hood. To avoid scratching the entire interior in order to refine the entire hood, I copied the small part. Covered with pencil lead, a piece of scotch tape to take the imprint and the scotch tape is glued to a piece of plastic (0.2 mm). Then we drill the holes at the ends and end up cutting all around the imprint. The rounded shape is given by fixing it on a cylindrical support with scotch tape and immersing it all in boiling water. By cooling (with cold water) the part keeps its rounded shape.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49347738347_54ea1ced22_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49347738327_0488bc226f_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49405622341_c1b1d282a8_b.jpg)

The cockpit will be redone despite the good work done by Eduard and the inconspicuous once the plane closed.
I have already scraped a lot with the mini drill and the file.

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f44/18/28/16/13/img_3015.jpg)[/url]

Regards
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on January 20, 2020, 06:42:58 AM
Great Start! Looking forward to following along!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: Alexis on January 20, 2020, 08:14:31 AM
Excellent subject , following with interest  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: kensar on January 20, 2020, 08:41:29 AM
I have this kit to do, so I will be following with interest.
Regarding the tail, check your references well.  I found the floatplane versions had the covered tail and the land plane versions were open.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: huberlu on January 21, 2020, 12:09:04 AM
Hello Ken,

Damn, you're right.

I found one where we see the structure at the rear of the fuselage (windsock N°92 picture 38)  but all the others seem to be closed.
In addition I opened the hood to the left of the fuselage while I have no photo of what is inside ... I have just two on the right side.

It doesn't start well.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: huberlu on January 21, 2020, 12:14:22 AM
Okay ... I opened the hood on the left side.

So you have to scrape and sand the inside, for a long time, and reduce the thickness to the maximum, trying not to destroy everything inside because it may be seen.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49405416056_264d582b43_c.jpg)

The door is cut out.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49404931948_9527b3242b_h.jpg)

A very thin plate is cut and drilled to put inside and reduce the opening of the hatch.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49405416126_43218cdaff_h.jpg)

The goal is to do something like that.


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49405002243_c8ca5fa229_b.jpg)

It took me a long time to decide where to put it. There are lots of versions and the vintage photos of the seaplane used by our navy (The french one)  are not numerous and often of poor quality. I hope I have looked at my photos ...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49404999553_bcee71ff83_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49405484341_323057353a_b.jpg)

The interior of the cockpit is under construction.
The vertical uprights have a "profiled" shape. I cut them in a 1mm wide plastic strip with the scalpel blade and the file.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49405417301_21f51438ee_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49405611372_d7dcf86fcb_z.jpg)

Above the horizontal upright is a rod with a square section of 0.8 mm side. It is also re-cut to fit it into the corner of the fuselage.
More or less like this:

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f44/18/28/16/13/quart-10.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/18281613/43)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49405611422_d8219c3d23_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49405553021_edd7d07063_c.jpg)

Regards.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: Edo on January 21, 2020, 04:08:20 PM
this is going to be a show i’m. ot going to miss!
very good start!
i’ll follow closely!
ciao
edo
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: William Adair on January 21, 2020, 04:59:45 PM
Looking great.  Such a pretty aircraft too!
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on January 21, 2020, 11:56:59 PM
Excellent start with the framework and cowling. Looking forward to your progress!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: bobs_buckles on January 22, 2020, 01:15:39 AM
Excellent start. Looks like a winner!

von B  ;)
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: huberlu on February 29, 2020, 06:54:59 PM
Thank you!

Thank you!!!


Hello,

I closed on the left. I have refined the walls too much and they have been drilled.

I finished the opening with the frame cut from a plastic sheet, the thinnest from "evergreen" (0.1mm?).
Difficult to set up in the fuselage.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49597352981_9f4191ba00_b.jpg)

The adjustment will be made with the file

Inside, the wall around the opening will remain as it is, ie ugly, it should not be seen.

The silhouette of the wooden upright visible through the opening is complicated to grasp.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49405002243_c8ca5fa229_b.jpg)

So I drew the opening on paper and then made a sketch from the photo. The map available in Windsock does not match the photos.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49597353146_8799ded8f3_b.jpg)

A piece of tape (the mat which does not stick too much) is placed on it to make several impressions necessary for the four pieces.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49597353106_77eb54bd86_b.jpg)

The holes and the openings are drilled before the part is cut.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49597353056_eff5e744da_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49596853038_97bfd35acf_b.jpg)

Finally we glue a pierced part on a not pierced part:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49597352901_d3a22ccdaf_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49597601457_5077e936dd_b.jpg)

Regards
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: huberlu on February 29, 2020, 10:25:29 PM
The internal structure is almost complete.
I had the bad idea to stick the right part in the fuselage and to start my assembly from there.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49597601647_28e812b4db_c.jpg)

The square rods are 0.5mm x 0.5mm.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49597494046_3da813c056_b.jpg)

Part of the engine needs to be done:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49596994673_26c56d8027_b.jpg)

I used this montage and the descriptions found on the net:

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f23/11/70/07/54/img_0131.jpg)

http://www.master194.com/forum/viewtopic.php


https://issuu.com/chestnuts/docs/clerget-blin_9b]
 https://www.aerovfr.com/2016/05/retroconception-pour-un-clerget- 9b

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k9810818g/f72.image.r=Le%20Clerget%209B?rk=107296;4]


The two magnetos in black (a little too low).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49597493906_13334d48b4_h.jpg)


Two new tanks:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49597494081_ea3dc9bd8b_h.jpg)



Does anyone know where the big horizontal copper pipe goes under the spring?
The spring seems to be connected to the throttle by rods.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49405002243_c8ca5fa229_b.jpg)


It remains to bring everything in.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on March 01, 2020, 02:27:47 AM
Your work on creating all of this detail is Fantastic to say the least! Thanks for tthe detailed explanation of your techniques!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: Edo on March 01, 2020, 06:53:25 AM
amazing work....
ciao
edo
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: Alexis on March 01, 2020, 07:33:34 AM
Excellent work on the details so far  :)



Terri
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: kensar on March 02, 2020, 01:04:32 AM
I had some doubts about the detailing, but you are bringing it all together.  Good show!
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: huberlu on March 02, 2020, 11:16:33 PM
Thank you!


The wooden support is put in place after installing the cables. Two up, two down and one running along the support.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49606308836_c735f35e0a_b.jpg)

Once everything is closed, you hardly see anything. It's dark there like in an oven ...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49605799748_9f824acc88_h.jpg)

And in the cockpit it's the same.

Regards.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on March 02, 2020, 11:26:57 PM
It may be hard to see but we all know it is there! Looks terrific.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: Alexis on March 03, 2020, 11:18:41 AM
It may be hard to see but we all know it is there! Looks terrific.
RAGIII


Second this !


Terri
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: PrzemoL on March 03, 2020, 08:27:33 PM
Great attention to detail, as usual.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: lone modeller on March 05, 2020, 08:12:28 AM
Only just seen this: what a superb set of internal details. The wooden part with the indents is particularly impressive. What a shame that much of this will not be visible.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: huberlu on March 15, 2020, 06:50:13 PM
Thank you!

That's all is stuck in the fuselage, more or less well.

The copper pipes a little big.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49659532228_753fba64e3_b.jpg)

The little aluminum thing connected by a spring to the dashboard.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49660352377_03dddabddf_b.jpg)

It was necessary to lengthen on each side the air intake pipe of the carburetor which crosses the passenger compartment right through:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49660072601_537c3bdbc5_b.jpg)

The throttle that comes from the box is far too large and is a little near the dashboard.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49660352362_f1276a0dd4_b.jpg)

I redid the white dial and its big cable which is just below so that it looks like the pictures on the dashboard (I only know that of the planes saved at the Hendon museum).
Also redo a few rods on the throttle side and under the dashboard as well as a raised floor to hide the misery.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49659532248_d9a11e190b_b.jpg)

It's still just as dark ... except with the cell phone lamp directly in the hole (of the fuselage ...).
I had redone the lifter, I applied myself but we do not see it at all. Same thing for the small oil tank behind the dashboard.
The boards to put the feet I redone are more apart than the original and the spreader of the box was no longer large enough.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49660072616_134c14cb5d_b.jpg)

If I summarize, the only parts visible and that it is possibly interesting to redo are the structure of the cabin and the cables, the gas handle (which I have not redone), the white dial and the copper pipes on the left side of the passenger compartment. For the rest it is not worth it.

Okay ... well, I'm going to close the fuselage and start the engine.

Regards.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: bobs_buckles on March 15, 2020, 08:04:49 PM
Excellent detail work  :o
And Rick called it right - We know it's there!  ;)

von B
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on March 15, 2020, 10:20:32 PM
Excellent detail work  :o
And Rick called it right - We know it's there!  ;)

von B

I agree wit Bob! Outstanding cockpit detail!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: Alexis on March 15, 2020, 11:58:30 PM
Veeery nice detail work !



Terri
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: Mike Norris on March 16, 2020, 06:18:25 AM
This is a build I'm following with great interest.
Congratulations on your scratch building and modifications so far,

Mike
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: huberlu on March 24, 2020, 11:29:01 PM
Thank you!

Hello,

I redo the floats in 0.5mm plastic.


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49692020201_32f3c841de_h.jpg)

Those of Eduard are ugly, false and too long.
On the photo I had already cut the front to try to recover them.
And I'm not even showing you seen from above ...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49691479643_c6e1223f02_h.jpg)

Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: huberlu on March 24, 2020, 11:32:32 PM
I had made two photos of HD2 floats:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49692324447_336a766b8d_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49692324487_bd0222b72f_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: Alexis on March 25, 2020, 10:38:34 AM
Nice progress on making new floats  :) Looking forward on the details now  8)



Terri
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on March 25, 2020, 10:21:01 PM
excellent work on the floats. Your corrections will make a great build even better!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: huberlu on April 04, 2020, 07:41:47 PM
Thank you!

Hi!

The floats are almost finished.

I hesitate to redo the fuselage stop which is completely round on my kit while it is probably faceted ...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49733951916_b80f938084_h.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49733194588_b763989a5a_h.jpg)

I made a test which asks to remove all the part behind the headrest.

If you have suggestions before I practice a hazardous amputation I am interested ...

A +

Hub.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on April 04, 2020, 11:11:38 PM
I am not a scratch builder but wonder if you could sand it down a bit then use scored 5 thou. card to cover it?
RAGIII
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: huberlu on April 08, 2020, 08:09:21 AM
Thank you !

Hello !


Before cutting the back I took a loan with a pencil and tape and I made a back.
On the back of the room I made grooves in the evergreen plastic with the back of a blade. Then we fold.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49740226531_d87301bb34_h.jpg)


Left 1st try, plastic too thin. Right, second try with 0.2mm.
More rigid is better but at the first drop of glue grooves have melted and the glue has dispersed on the surface.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49740552877_7d26f4a511_h.jpg)

4th test (the third has disappeared on the workbench ...). As the folding does not allow it to keep its shape, I taped it on a conical tool handle and passed to boiling water to give it the right shape. It's better.
The circular arc piece is glued to the front to give it its shape.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49739679813_adcfc2e93e_h.jpg)


I proceeded to amputation, leaving the front of L’arête to put a metal piece on it. The plastic part will be slid underneath.


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49740226551_74295e2948_h.jpg)

The transplant remains to be successful ...
Seen from above we can see that the sides of the ridge (in contact with the fuselage) are rounded. I have not yet figured out how to make them straight.
I tried to stick a trapezoid "cover" on the inside but it didn't hold. The ciano is not effective, and the other adhesives damage the room.


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49739679753_bcd529173a_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49739679798_cf663232e3_h.jpg)


finally I fixed two guides in dymo tape to serve as guides and support the sides of the piece above.
The part therefore enters "forcefully" between the guides.
Before placing it I filled it with epoxy glue so that it flows inside and sticks the piece to the fuselage. I also put some along the zone to stick not believing too much in my idea of ​​"dripping".

At the same time I hope that by hardening it maintains a little the shape of the part.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49743535383_3fc5a70227_b.jpg)

Obviously I kept everything in place by hand for 15 minutes while praying.

It almost worked ...

The bonding was not done everywhere and I started to stick to the superglue.


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744616733_39356fca5e_b.jpg)

I have the right side to fix.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49744616713_1e2402bd7e_h.jpg)


... and putty everything.

Regards.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on April 08, 2020, 08:18:14 AM
Well it turned out to be more complicated than I thought but you seem to have it well in Hand! Excellent work!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: Alexis on April 08, 2020, 10:45:08 AM
Challenging to say the least , but you seem to have beaten that challenge , that looks really good so far and should blend in wonderful . Looking forward to the finally results  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: huberlu on April 11, 2020, 07:26:54 AM
Thank you!

I still haven't finished chewing ...

The plate that covers the back is being manufactured:


The form is taken with transparent tape.

The plate is cut from a plate of edible aluminum (connoisseurs will no doubt recognize a pie dish here). The aluminum is smoothed with the handle of a brush on a glass plate and sanded with 1000 paper so that there are no scratches or marks in it.

The leather protection around the entrance of the passenger compartment has been sanded in the area in contact with the dorsal edge to avoid having to make a rounding in the aluminum (and because it is like that in real life also by chance).


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49758615002_11a7c801ff_h.jpg)

I will do it again later.


Eduard seems to have been inspired by this plane to engrave the top of the fuselage (blue arrow).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49758236451_dae01f7676_h.jpg)

But for the moment I can't find any image with this small riveted plate which is perhaps only a contemporary reinforcement and that's good! ... because it will be easier.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49758584032_5476ee0db5_m.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49757723823_2543ca77a1_c.jpg)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49758543442_251b9e6255_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49758212001_508fbf7dbd_b.jpg)

I'm going to drill the hole to fill up ...

Regards
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on April 11, 2020, 10:59:26 AM
The plate looks awesome! Terrific work!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: huberlu on April 11, 2020, 04:56:37 PM
Thank you!

I think I made a mistake.


Does anyone see my plate behind the cockpit?


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49404999553_bcee71ff83_b.jpg)




Eduard puts one, WIndsock also in his plans.

According to windsock, there is a US version which has no plate. Finally, this is what has been noted and drawn in the plans of the book ...

Has French aviation used this version ???

I have so few photos ...


Regards.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: kensar on April 12, 2020, 12:00:11 AM
Clearly there are variations between planes.  If you are depicting a particular one, photos of it are very valuable.  If no photos, I think replicating a similar plane is the best bet.  Who could prove you are wrong?
No plating there implies there is no tank behind the pilot's head, as there is on other Hanriots.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: huberlu on April 12, 2020, 12:46:08 AM
Hello Ken,

You're right but here, none seems to wear a plate ...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49760867996_b5e72d6874_c.jpg)

Regards.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: huberlu on April 20, 2020, 08:35:39 AM
Hi,

After many hesitations this is the goal:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49780253848_578e0e4f50_h.jpg)

In red it will disappear.
In green to engrave.
In blue probably in aluminum tape.
Plus rivets, nails etc.

One of our colleagues suggests that the tank behind the pilot could have been removed to maintain the aircraft's center of gravity in the right place when it has been fitted with large floats.
He made a scratch in 1/32 to see here: shock::

https: //forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php? / topic / 81122-hanriot-hd2-scratchbuild / (http://https: //forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php? / topic / 81122-hanriot-hd2-scratchbuild /)


I redid my back, longer.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49781121677_3db6e907dd_h.jpg)

And I removed the protection that I had put to protect the opening ... the top melted, the front was deformed.
It was just a piece of plastic and tamiya tape. I had put a Surfacer veil on the front of the fuselage. He may have attacked very fine plastic.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49780788486_a2dcb4e163_c.jpg)

After an evening of work, a night of reflection and full of Evergreen and tests. I try a transplant starting with the deepest and going up to the surface. Three layers of plastic.
The hole above and the wall are consolidated from the inside with Super Glue.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49784423833_9ae15a8637_h.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49784423718_8f073ddb13_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49784423858_63b3e3b9ab_h.jpg)


Re-cut hole and grafted part:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49786519062_6886e8ed8d_h.jpg)

To putty.

Regards.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: huberlu on April 23, 2020, 05:46:58 PM
Thank you!


The missing slot in the hood is drilled and sanded with a file. It is missing either on the HD1 or the HD2. Please note it is not always centered. Its position depends on the model.
The angle between the two pieces of scotch tape: 55 ° ...
The slit may be a little thin yet?


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49802975658_081086f616_b.jpg)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49803017778_b133758f7f_b.jpg)


The rear part of the slots was glued, puttyed and sanded.


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49803831832_865d5f157c_h.jpg)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49803831867_4abd4eac7d_h.jpg)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49803831932_082f3a68ed_b.jpg)


Clerget 9B / Z 130 / 110hp (Small Stuff):


approx. 110 pieces ...


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49808030683_e43f26aef8_h.jpg)


Note if you mount these engines, take the time to observe them with a magnifying glass so as not to break the small parts which are molded on the cylinders for example. What I did not do, of course.
I broke half of the small hooks which are at the top of the cylinders. There are two per cylinder, I often only have one.
Fortunately this should not be seen.


It remains to be checked whether, once fully assembled, it will fit under the hood.


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49808586801_55fc6c38a1_b.jpg)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49808890227_2120e3d89b_b.jpg)


Regards.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on April 23, 2020, 09:45:29 PM
Your repair to the access panel, cowling, and engine all look superb! Well done!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: FAf on April 23, 2020, 10:21:29 PM
One of all the good things there are about plastic modelling is that it's not just about the end result, it's about the road travelled as well! So apart from you eventually being really happy with the end result (fingers crossed), you can also look forward to being really happy with the great saves you have performed during the build! Inspiring! /F
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: Alexis on April 26, 2020, 02:05:59 AM
Progress continues to be excellent , love the cowl  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: RichieW on April 26, 2020, 04:01:02 AM
Lovely seamless repair, this is such a great build!
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: huberlu on May 03, 2020, 07:13:04 AM
Thank you !

One of all the good things there are about plastic modelling is that it's not just about the end result, it's about the road travelled as well! So apart from you eventually being really happy with the end result (fingers crossed), you can also look forward to being really happy with the great saves you have performed during the build! Inspiring! /F


Thank you very much.

Hello!

I remade the air intakes of the carburetor (well I think that's it).
They are badly placed on the kit for my version. You have to climb them up a bit.

At the end it should look like this:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49847295236_c281b6e48e_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49846753953_7f9906dbd5_z.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49847282716_78b439dd3b_n.jpg)

There are apparently several more or less elongated versions. We do not see well on vintage photos most of the time.
I used Eduard's model. I made a copy of it with transparent tape and powder pencil lead.
I pierced both ends with a 1.1mm cookie cutter for the big one, 0.7mm for the small one. Then cut between the two holes with a new blade and sand.

The tools :

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49847244906_c447b5a83f_c.jpg)

Drilled and sanded:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49846713568_db24330d48_b.jpg [/ img]Then cut around as close as possible with the razor blade following the model. Rounding is done with a file.It is not very difficult to do but it is very small.[img]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49846713513_68db3266d7_h.jpg)

An aluminum tube is made in a piece of aluminum tray. I found nothing else to do them during this period of confinement. The hardest part is not losing the coins. Cotton swab or a real aluminum tube would have been simpler I think.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49847550397_a22a147e0b_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49847244766_2df07ec9f6_b.jpg)

The tube seems to be "higher" in its rear part than in its front part. Perhaps so that the air enters more easily.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49846751993_c45b0182d1_z.jpg)

Regards.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on May 03, 2020, 07:21:58 AM
Amazing detailing! Well Done!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: lone modeller on May 03, 2020, 07:22:31 AM
Thay is some more very delicate work that you are doing there - and doing it very well indeed.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: huberlu on May 09, 2020, 07:53:28 AM
Thank you!

The engine is finally finished. It's very small but everything comes together without the need for adjustment. Fortunately...
75 pieces + 18 spark plug wires (not very useful after all).
It is weathered with engine grease oil paint. It is less yellow in reality.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49871802381_4dcc6c8645_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49871271608_80534d6fb3_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49871802356_e7ff0987db_c.jpg)


The copper tubes are painted with Alclad paint, the bent part is weathered with a little dark gray ink (Faber Castell pen) and with dark blue and black pastels. All tapped with Prince Auguste brown ink to make it shine a little. I am happy with the result but from the front we do not see them.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49871802366_cfe6736077_z.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49871802431_44376825a9_c.jpg)

Regards
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on May 09, 2020, 08:02:02 AM
Beautifully painted engine! I love the effects of your ink and paint work!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on May 09, 2020, 08:03:12 AM
I really like the kits from Small Stuff - great stuff  ;)

This is really a fantastic build with great attention to details.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: Alexis on May 09, 2020, 10:15:09 AM
Love the engine !


Terri
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: GazzaS on May 09, 2020, 09:01:07 PM
Those engine details look sweet!  Think I wanna make my exhaust look like yours in the future.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: huberlu on June 07, 2020, 08:56:05 AM
Hello!


An aluminum door.
The outline is marked with a ballpoint pen (red ...) in an aluminum foil thanks to a metal template. Then I cut the outline and I sanded it. It remains to stick it. There it is just posed.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49902892091_e8b67039fb_b.jpg)

The tail is picked up a bit:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49902378873_627327ed93_b.jpg)

An aluminum scotch plate is glued around the passenger compartment. The scotch tape is sanded flat on a clean glass plate with 1000 sandpaper, then glued to the model. It is shaped with a toothpick and then cut with a new blade using a piece of dymo tape as a rule. I absolutely wanted to have the extra thickness with the rivet marks. It took me a long time to get there:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49903199997_2ebe86e353_h.jpg)

The leather outline needs to be reworked a bit.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49902378868_10d812cd38_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49903200052_2a6b46d21c_h.jpg)

The whole is covered with surfacing. I still have to sand it a little.


I remade screws in relief.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49914460377_fd8103cd37_h.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49913601043_e86e1c73ed_h.jpg)

It's still better. Especially with the naked eye.


A little paint.

I want to obtain a very light gray aluminum almost without metallic reflection. Like my mom's aluminum saucepan. Those who are my age must have seen this at home small.
No ?..

since I don't have white paint to mix with aluminum. from HK, I chose to paint in aluminum. and then varnish in math to break the gloss. Before aluminum. I have a little pre-shaded in black.
The aluminum was slightly patinated with dark gray felt before varnishing.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49978796977_0b113a9e17_z.jpg).

The math varnish (HK) was not enough so I put in the varnish a little bit of light gray paint (like pearl gray).
The effect is what I wanted. The actual color is more subtle than the photo shows, a little more metallic.

Right, the cover before being varnished.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49978536526_63bfb53e85_c.jpg).

Regards !
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on June 07, 2020, 09:24:20 AM
Beautiful results. Looking awesome 👍
RAGIII
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: Alexis on June 07, 2020, 12:11:18 PM
Very well done indeed Louis , looking forward on the next run of updates  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: FAf on June 09, 2020, 08:09:41 PM
Great work with that aluminium tape! An idea to be borrowed...
Great looking work overall.
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: RichieW on June 10, 2020, 08:04:46 AM
Wow, this really is brilliant. Love all the different materials you are using to such great effect. I'm getting a lot of ideas from your build.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: Brad Cancian on June 10, 2020, 03:41:49 PM
I'm loving all of the detail work here - and that engine is truly magnificent, great job!

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: GazzaS on June 10, 2020, 04:03:23 PM
Really love those screw heads.  That's just the kind of detail a lot of kits need.  What did you make them with?
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: lcarroll on June 11, 2020, 03:07:43 AM
   Your detail gets better with every update, this is already outstanding and is going to be spectacular when completed. Great Build Log and a true pleasure to follow!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: huberlu on June 12, 2020, 02:48:22 AM
Really love those screw heads.  That's just the kind of detail a lot of kits need.  What did you make them with?

Hello!
Thank you.

The rivets are made on decals with surfacer and a stencil:

https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=5758.135 (https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=5758.135)

Regards.

Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: lone modeller on June 12, 2020, 06:20:14 AM
I am catching up as I seem to have missed tis for a while. The engine looks real - just needs oil and petrol and a current to fire the plugs! The other details are truly remarkable - difficult to remember just how small some of them are.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: fredjocko on July 25, 2020, 03:30:07 AM
This looks fantastic!!
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: huberlu on June 13, 2021, 06:51:43 AM
Hi!!!

I got back to work!


After long hesitation on the color to use to paint the plane (canvas color, gray, other?) I opted for the more classic: Natural canvas color.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51243681450_da6c64c338_n.jpg)


If you look a little in the photos of Italian HD1 we do not find these stripes on the wings of camouflaged planes. They are only seen on aluminum-colored planes and those presumed to be canvas-colored.
In the 1st version of Windsock on the HD1 we can clearly see the canvas reinforcements on the fenders:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51241916247_5cd887f0cc_m.jpg)

So I cut out of decals (FW190 1/32 old decals red and white stripes from under the plane that have turned yellow). There really is a lot of reinforcement to be done. They are a little less than 1/2 mm wide. I put them on wings that were already painted (and weathered a little) so that their color stands out. I may pass a veil of paint so that it still cuts a little less.


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51242624576_be8afd7f18_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51242624591_847cfb6ff8_c.jpg)


I only have the outlines of the wings to do ...


The floats were masticated for a long time and painted gray. As nobody knows which gray to use I thought of taking the gray of the navy boats used during the conflict.
Too dark!

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51242826873_e06e5f8262_h.jpg)

So I cut with white. 1 part of gray blue XF18 for 5 of white. The color is a bit bluish and reminds me of the color of German seaplanes.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51243392409_46f5915d42_h.jpg)


I added fixings to the floats which will be painted blue.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51243695525_62b04caed6_c.jpg)


They will be dirty, it's decided.

I took the only image I know where we see something:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51243700380_048b4ddabc_b.jpg[img]It shows the effect of the relative wind on the flow of oil and the effect that the mast support has on this flow.[img]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51242638631_942e3a4167_c.jpg)

I started to smear them using oil paint. I must finish them.


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51242638631_942e3a4167_c.jpg)

The decoration is almost finished on the fuselage. I have to do some touch-ups.
The codes are painted with a stencil. The code on the right side should have been closer to the bird's wing I think (like the other side). The swift is made in oil.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51242624566_c5b115e646_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51243392404_f1aec30929_b.jpg)


Regards.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: Alexis on June 13, 2021, 11:23:44 AM
Nice to see you back on this one again , great job on the painting and the off color tapes real bring it all together .


Alexis
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on June 13, 2021, 11:30:30 AM
I agree that is is great to see this one coming back! Excellent details on the float support struts and the wing painting and rib tapes!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: huberlu on June 15, 2021, 07:20:40 AM
Thank you,

I made the protective plates on each side of the fuselage and the small hatches that are used for whatever.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51246686662_c483f17c79_c.jpg)

 The headrest is made with the cushion provided for the seat that I cut so that it fits and goes down into the fuselage at the level of the pilot's shoulders.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51247600093_14d0497bf8_c.jpg)


The machine guns (photoetched Part) are glued as well as the two large protuberances on each side. They have been heavily modified and the plates that must be glued to the fuselage refined.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51248452350_37a4c22157_b.jpg)


They are difficult to hold between the fingers. Their shapes make them fly away as soon as you hold them in your big fingers. I spent hours (really) looking for them in my office. They are difficult to position on the fuselage. When they are very close to the machine guns, as they should, they do not apply well to the fuselage wall. If you glue them well to the fuselage they will move away from the weapons ... So I chose to stick them cleanly to the fuselage


Two small rolled aluminum cylinders which are placed in the two holes under the protuberances of the arms (if anyone knows what these holes were used for ???).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51247599953_ba2312a911_c.jpg)

Then the details are added: The covers that supply the machine guns with ammunition. The gutters under the gun barrels (food aluminum).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51248175654_467cb00d08_c.jpg)

The two caps (Eduard board from HD1). A little oil paint to make it all dirty.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51247405806_8f34362ac6_c.jpg)

Regards.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: Alexis on June 15, 2021, 10:40:26 PM
Making really nice progress Louis  :)


Alexis
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: huberlu on June 18, 2021, 10:08:32 PM
Thank you!

I glued the wings and the masts.

The mats are the right size and do not pose any particular concerns.

Once glued, viewed from above, the lower and upper wing are no longer aligned.
So I placed the plane on its support, put a drop of extra fluid glue at the base of each mast to soften the bindings and put a piece of tape (photo) to pull the upper wing. left back.
After a night of drying under tension it holds.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51255654379_60286ed64c_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51254175637_479e06f821_b.jpg)

Mats for floats are just big nonsense. The two Eduards pieces are identical although they are not placed at the same angle. Obviously it cannot work.
It lacks 3mm to the length to be able to fix them. As they have an M-shape seen from the front, it is impossible to shorten them without changing the spacing.


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51255954220_0150e553ea_c.jpg)

We will have to rectify the masts before.


Regards.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: Alexis on June 18, 2021, 10:15:36 PM
Bummer , I know you have have this fix in no time . Nice job on the rigging  ;)



Alexis
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: huberlu on June 18, 2021, 10:23:35 PM
Yes it is! ;)

The masts are elongated as best they can and glued.
Those at the rear received a metal rod (0.2mm) to keep them in place.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51255951440_d25afb9e1b_c.jpg)

In profile all is well:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51255951425_6aa4d021f0_h.jpg)

From the front, the floats are not "parallel" to the wings and the bar which connects the two floats makes an arc of a circle (in red).

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51255951405_668c177bb7_h.jpg)

So I started sawing the central mast foot to fix that.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51255657094_ecbf2ef979_h.jpg)

.. and finally almost everything came off. I resized and adjusted the poles as well as possible (0.5mm) but there is not much room given their shape.

I also stuck the big engine (I wanted to for a long time)

He didn't let that go either.

It fits under the hood but the rocker arm heads (the part at the end of the rocker arm rod, there are 12 here!) touch the inside of the engine cowl. When you put the engine cover in place, the rocker arms twist.
I milled the inside of the hood over and over again but I'm too afraid to drill it out.
So I had to remove almost all of the rocker rods.
I'll glue them back on after shortening them a bit when I'm calmer.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51254178377_9b6e4852f2_h.jpg)

With the hood just installed.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51255657029_2855f31335_h.jpg)

Regards.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: lone modeller on June 19, 2021, 12:41:08 AM
Keep at it - you are winning even if it is only slowly. The markings and finish so far are fabulous - those struts are certainly a problem but not one which you will not eventually solve.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: Alexis on June 21, 2021, 02:36:53 AM
Excellent outcome with the struts Louis .  ;)


Alexis
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on June 21, 2021, 03:51:20 AM
Oh yes, what a great build!
As I have the HD1 and the HD2 seaplane in stash I need to keep this thread as reference. That you for the build report!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: kensar on June 21, 2021, 09:47:43 PM
Nice to see everything aligned now.
Great looking engine.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on June 21, 2021, 10:18:28 PM
Sorry I have failed to comment sooner! You have made terrific progress in spite of your struggles. The strut correction and sit of the floats looks Great.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: Manni on June 22, 2021, 01:37:47 AM
Great work, Louis. So much accuracy on these small details, but that's what the model makes more precious for yourself.
Bye, Manni
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: Monty on June 23, 2021, 05:18:48 AM
This is stunning work, Louis. You take the time and trouble to fix those really small problems, but it looks so great when you perfect the look! Lovely work! Marc.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: Fvdm on June 27, 2021, 04:19:43 PM
That's some great modelling going on here. Maybe the kit is fighting you but it seems you know how to deal with every challenge.
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: huberlu on September 05, 2021, 06:38:09 AM
Thank you!

Hi !

Here it is, she is finally finished.

The shrouds are installed, some are double. A real pain to fix. Yet there are not that many ...

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51423639027_083ec2d37a_h.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51423638902_38714a9084_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51425147569_f353c0ed70_b.jpg)


- All small parts have been added to the hoods.

The photoetched discs at the propeller hub and a piece of syringe to make the axis.
The propeller marks (Eclair) are punched out on scraps of decals.
The blade shielding is painted.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51424638493_5289ef1baf_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51424638463_1ea940f4fd_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51424638598_e499de5a52_c.jpg)

The vertical fixed plane (fin) only touches the fuselage at the front and rests on a rod at the rear. It is very fragile.
The serial number is fictitious. It is written in 0.1mm pen. H-D Eduard decals cannot be used because they are disproportionate. I cut them to be more or less the right size.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51425419030_4e63307614_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51425147419_209177e148_c.jpg)

- The venturi tube is that of the kit. I just pierced it a little.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51424385126_315b429b7e_h.jpg)


The transport cart uses the wheels of the Hanriot. The plank should be longer at the rear of the axle than at the front, probably to facilitate loading the plane. The "handles" are still missing.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51425406525_fa7573a543_b.jpg)

it was a long and laborious assembly, once again.
I won't keep fond memories of it, yet it's not a bad Kit.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51423639182_bd26905870_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51424638628_2d1208f0b6_h.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51424638598_e499de5a52_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51425370205_d2f46eee02_h.jpg)


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51423639027_083ec2d37a_h.jpg)

Regards
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: kensar on September 05, 2021, 12:26:00 PM
I have to say this is an excellent result.  I have this kit in a semi-built state, so I know what you were working with and the result is extraordinary.  Good job!
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: FAf on September 05, 2021, 03:16:30 PM
Very good results! I like the details, the colours and the weathering... well, everything really.
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: Edo on September 05, 2021, 03:50:58 PM
Huberlu,
you did a wonderful job, as always!
chapeau!

ciao
edo
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: lcarroll on September 05, 2021, 11:38:13 PM
    Magnificent model Louis! I really like this one; like all of your work the finish and detail are exceptional and it's of a quality you should be very proud of, well done Sir!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on September 06, 2021, 12:04:43 AM
This was a long journey with a beautiful result! This is the future benchmark for Hanriot builds.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: huberlu on September 10, 2021, 02:14:58 AM
Thank you!!!

The arches behind the wheels were missing:

A steel wire wrapped around an ice cream stick rounded with a file.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51439143482_aeda2e896f_c.jpg)   

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51440858670_12d0ebd532_c.jpg)   

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51439892466_348a71b8dc_c.jpg)         

A+       
Title: Re: Hanriot HD2 floatplane Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on September 10, 2021, 02:23:53 AM
Absolutely Gorgeous results! The details added, painting, rigging, etc. are all Superb!
RAGIII