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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Naimbs on February 12, 2015, 08:09:24 PM

Title: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Naimbs on February 12, 2015, 08:09:24 PM
Hi all!

I started yesterday this model.

This is the short-run, in the tradition of the models Eduard 90s.

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/196039P1090519.jpg)

There is a lot of work for the preparation.

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/476919P1090520.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/953469P1090521.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/608413P1090522.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/280945P1090524.jpg)

All surfaces are sanded, and reinforcements are added.

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/793414P1090549.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/326649P1090548.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/410520P1090552.jpg)

General parts prepared:

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/612240P1090550.jpg)

I'll start the cockpit today!

A bientôt

Arnaud
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Naimbs on February 12, 2015, 09:52:59 PM
I redid the exhausts with cotton swab that I stretched:

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/552735P1090555.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/774235P1090556.jpg)

Arnaud
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Alexis on February 12, 2015, 10:33:33 PM
Looking forward on seeing how this one turns out  :)




Terri
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: coyotemagic on February 13, 2015, 02:22:30 AM
You're off to a great start, Arnaud.  I finally broke down and bought one of these odd looking critters at a local model show in December, so I will be following along closely in hopes of learning a thing or two. 
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Dirigible-Al on February 13, 2015, 03:57:33 AM
Hi Arnaud
I have one of these too. I do not know why it has escaped being built but at least now I can enjoy seeing yours come together.
Cheers, Alan.
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: radio on February 13, 2015, 04:15:25 AM
Hello Arnauds
last year I build this with engine inside.
Will follow your build now.
Martin
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Sarcococca on February 13, 2015, 07:20:21 AM
Great start! The Floh is very rare to see, so I`ll follow your thread.
Looks a lil`bit like an egg plane!
 :D
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Pgtaylorart on February 13, 2015, 07:30:17 AM
Strange but cool little plane. Looks like a Harley Davidson gas tank with wings.

I'll be interested to see it being built.

George
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Des on February 13, 2015, 07:31:44 AM
A very interesting and unusual looking aeroplane, I'm looking forward to seeing how you manage this kit.

Des.
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: RAGIII on February 13, 2015, 10:02:54 AM
Nice start on the odd little Floh! Looking forward to seeing more!
RAGIII
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Naimbs on February 13, 2015, 08:00:35 PM
Thank you for your interest in this model! I highly recommend it! It is really nice, and the model is not bad. There are a few improvements to make, but nothing insurmountable!

Radio: I thought your topic! Very beautiful and hard work on the engine compartment! Congratulations!!

That's the next step:

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/793148P1090558.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/116358P1090560.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/875823P1090561.jpg)

I can start painting. I do not think using the oil painting.

A bientôt

Arnaud
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: radio on February 13, 2015, 11:04:00 PM
A good update.
Martin
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Naimbs on February 14, 2015, 03:59:42 AM
Thank you very much Martin!

I started painting the cockpit

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/781385P1090567.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/637053P1090571.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/483878P1090573.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/939742P1090574.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/860858P1090575.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/896032P1090576.jpg)

Arnaud
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Des on February 14, 2015, 07:16:51 AM
Very nicely done with the planking Arnaud, and the cockpit boat looks pretty good so far.

Des.
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: radio on February 14, 2015, 07:36:09 AM
Very well done Arnaud.
Martin
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: xan on February 14, 2015, 08:29:49 AM
Super project Naimb!
those old eduard are not to bad, once you rework the parts, and they permit to do very rare plane...
Xan
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: RAGIII on February 14, 2015, 09:47:57 AM
Really nice work on painting that planking. Something to remember when I do a Nieuport!
RAGIII
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: jamieg on February 14, 2015, 10:23:54 AM
Watch out the little shelf the seat rests on is way too low; the pilot would have to stand up to see. Ask me how I know.
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Des on February 14, 2015, 10:46:06 AM
I remember Martin saying something about the seat position when he built his kit, it's great to have a heads-up on these issues.

Des.
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: xan on February 14, 2015, 04:53:44 PM
Naimbs, can you tell us more about this so strange plane?
Why this enrmus fuselage, what was the idea?
Hos does it fly? when and how much ?
So many question I could search by myself isn't it?  ;)
Xan
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: KitRookie37 on February 14, 2015, 05:10:58 PM
Hello gentlemen,
What a bird...heu...a flea... Nice beginning.
Best regards.
Alain.
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Naimbs on February 14, 2015, 06:19:53 PM
Thank you for your interest!

I like the prototypes, and planes strangely shaped in general!

These are often largely neglected of the development of aviation in the First World War. There have been so many, often very interesting! What effervescence of engineers!

jamieg: Your comment is interesting for me because I would like to close today.

Des: I have read and watched the subject by Ratio. It is in my favorite pages because its mounting responds to many of my questions, and is very pretty. My understanding is that ratio had set too low cockpit. He rectified, but does not mention that the location of the seat is too low.  :-\. Maybe he will know tell me if he reads this interrogation  :).

Xan: This prototype was designed in 1915 as a competitor of the Fokker monoplane! (hahaha). It was to be a high-speed fighter. The design had to meet a desire for dynamic drag to a bare minimum. The speed could reach 180 km / h, but it was too high take-off and landing.

I'm sorry I master English with difficulty!!

Best Regards

Arnaud
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Naimbs on February 14, 2015, 06:28:31 PM
Otherwise, I have a little continued:

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/210070P1090577.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/298945P1090578.jpg)

I'm sorry for the picture quality.

There is a part of PE to be sanded on the seat top...
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Naimbs on February 14, 2015, 06:31:40 PM
Really nice work on painting that planking. Something to remember when I do a Nieuport!
RAGIII

For this aircraft is an artistic license!

Thank you for your comment!
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: jamieg on February 14, 2015, 11:40:07 PM
Xan;  The design was proposed to Idflieg at the end of 1915. The idea was to eliminate as much drag as possible, hence the shape which completely enclosed all possible sources of drag within the fuselage. Originally the designers had intended to even eliminate struts and wiring by making short cantilever wings. Idflieg said no to the idea of a biplane without struts and rigging(it says in our rule book that biplanes must have bracing between wings) so they had to be added. Flight tests revealed it to be as fast as the Albatros D.I would later be even though it had only a 100hp engine. Idflieg was unhappy with visibility for the pilot, especially in landing.

It is interesting to speculate how this little guy would have performed with the extra 60hp of the Mercedes D.III engine. It seems to have been defeated by the conservatism of the Idflieg folks.
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: radio on February 15, 2015, 12:33:01 AM
Very beautiful!
Martin
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: xan on February 15, 2015, 05:34:49 AM
Hello,
in an other topic
http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=4821.0 (http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=4821.0)
 I saw this picture, I imagine you know it but...

(http://www.germanpostalhistory.com/php/ebimageserver.php?item=67571&vthru=1420681501)

Xan
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Naimbs on February 15, 2015, 07:00:27 PM
Jamieg: Thank you for this summary, clearer than mine!

Radio: Your model serves me well for mine! Thank you!

Xan: I know this picture, but not of this quality! It's interesting in red, I had not observed this detail! Thank you very much!
In green, I guess heI will have to pierce these details . Martin drilled but I see many models with just the decals of the box.
I don't know for things to do.
(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/213515ebimageserverphp.jpg)


I continued improvements yesterday:

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/227688P1090579.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/754937P1090580.jpg)

A bientôt

Arnaud
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Naimbs on February 15, 2015, 07:49:25 PM
(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/497542P1090583.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/124194P1090584.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/305592P1090586.jpg)

Arnaud
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Des on February 15, 2015, 07:53:51 PM
Very nice work on the control column, instrument panel and seat, it is a very interesting build.

Des
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Naimbs on February 16, 2015, 01:36:00 AM
Thank you Des!  :)

It's closed with stress:

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/699452P1090587.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/288559P1090588.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/882105P1090589.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/455229P1090590.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/700886P1090591.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/541512P1090592.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/386392P1090594.jpg)

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/983095P1090595.jpg)

Now I'll look at the work to be carried for the wings

Arnaud
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: jamieg on February 16, 2015, 07:29:01 AM
Arnaud;

I tried the decal option for the little openings that you marked in green on the photo, but was not happy with the result and ended up drilling the openings out.

Jamie
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Naimbs on February 16, 2015, 10:20:19 AM
Ok Jamie! Thank you very much, I'll do it this way!

It lacks the radiator on the wing.

I realize with different materials, cut and engraved brass sheet and plastic:

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/459166P1090597.jpg)

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/878048P1090599.jpg)

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/122602P1090600.jpg)

I dug the wing for not having too many thickness:

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/229598P1090604.jpg)

The result with some other details:

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/711260P1090607.jpg)

Arnaud
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Des on February 16, 2015, 11:17:46 AM
Very nice work with the cockpit and the wing radiator. I can imagine that the fully enclosed engine compartment and the tight cockpit the pilot must have felt like he was sitting in an oven.

Des.
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: iwik on February 16, 2015, 07:49:30 PM
Hi Naimbs!
Nice work! Love the radiator! Awesome.
Though this aircraft reminds me of the airplane my daughters used to ride on a carrousel... :D
Ciao
Iwik
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: jamieg on February 16, 2015, 11:30:38 PM
The original 'egg-plane' takes shape. That radiator is fantastic. I'm tempted to go back to mine and do that to.
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: radio on February 17, 2015, 12:41:18 AM
Very great work untill today.
Martin
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: coyotemagic on February 17, 2015, 05:20:48 AM
Brilliant work on the radiator, Arnaud!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: RAGIII on February 17, 2015, 05:35:57 AM
The radiator is OUSTANDING! Excellent work to date!
RAGIII
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Naimbs on February 17, 2015, 10:00:26 PM
Hi guys!

This model is a pleasure! Thank you very much for your comments!

I have continued.

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/439672P1090623.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/259974P1090624.jpg)

To test:

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/191209P1090625.jpg)

There was no delimitation of the engine cover:

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/330407P1090620.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/805677P1090621.jpg)

PE parts are sometimes poorly represented:

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/546173P1090630.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/939278P1090631.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/225626P1090632.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/783748P1090633.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/154586P1090635.jpg)

I drilled the front. First I glued the decals directly on the plastic.

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/355754P1090637.jpg)

Then I drilled as best I could ....  ??? It's not perfect, but it stay that way.

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/920669P1090639.jpg)

I think painting shortly!!!

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/477773P1090641.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/435712P1090642.jpg)

Cheers

Arnaud

Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Alexis on February 17, 2015, 10:46:39 PM
Shaping up very well , nice job on the details  :)




Terri
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: WarrenD on February 17, 2015, 11:42:22 PM
Some really great work there Arnaud.

Warren
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: coyotemagic on February 18, 2015, 02:29:46 AM
Outstanding work, Arnaud!  Great idea, using the decals as templates.  Excellent work on the louvers, as well.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: radio on February 18, 2015, 03:02:36 AM
Fantastik work Arnaud.
Martin
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Dirigible-Al on February 18, 2015, 04:37:20 AM
This is really shaping up well and becoming fascinating. I love what you did with the louvres and the radiator
Alan.
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Des on February 18, 2015, 06:44:58 AM
Nice work on the front and on the louvres, well done.

Des.
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Naimbs on February 19, 2015, 12:21:42 AM
Thank you all

I started painting:


(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/633300P1090652.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/344345P1090653.jpg)

Cheers!

Arnaud
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: xan on February 19, 2015, 05:41:43 AM
you are going fast...and well!
Xan
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: radio on February 19, 2015, 06:24:49 AM
Very nice.
Martin
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Des on February 19, 2015, 06:26:43 AM
Nice to see some colour starting to go on the model, looking really good.

Des.
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: RAGIII on February 19, 2015, 05:13:30 PM
You are progressing Beautifully! The subtle see through effect of the crosses are excellent!
RAGIII
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Naimbs on February 24, 2015, 06:22:14 PM
Thank you very much, your comments are very encouraging!

I continued to work! I continued to work. I can't find this model as easy than I expected at first.

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/535921P1090663.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/276613P1090664.jpg)

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/657652P1090666.jpg)

It is almost finished!

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/750629P1090670.jpg)

The dihedral angle will be a little too large. I can't do better ....

Cheers

Arnaud
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: coyotemagic on February 25, 2015, 02:50:36 AM
You've really made excellent progress, Arnaud!  She's shaping up beautifully.  I cannot see any dihedral problems.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Umlaufmotor on February 25, 2015, 04:09:50 AM
Superb.
You've turned this old short-run kit to a real beauty.
BRAVO!!  ;)
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: radio on February 25, 2015, 06:42:05 AM
Exellent work.
Martin
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Des on February 25, 2015, 06:44:40 AM
Lovely work on the rigging Arnaud, and as Bud has said, I can't see any dihedral issues.

Des.
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: andonio64 on February 25, 2015, 06:24:43 PM
Beautiful work, it will be my inspiration when building the same kit!
Great!

Antonio
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Naimbs on February 25, 2015, 06:31:01 PM
Hello!

Bud, Umlaufmotor, Martin, Des and Antonio: I thank you all!  :)

I'll almost finished

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/560794P1090688.jpg)

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/873012P1090689.jpg)

Arnaud
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: andonio64 on February 25, 2015, 06:34:45 PM
 :o

 8)
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: jamieg on February 25, 2015, 10:43:10 PM
Sweet
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Alexis on February 25, 2015, 10:46:45 PM
This one sure came together fast , looking forward to the final pic's !





Terri
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Naimbs on February 26, 2015, 12:55:13 AM
Thank you!  :)


(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/191924P1090694.jpg)

The Floh jumped into the finished models section:

http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=5255.0

A bientôt!

Arnaud
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: coyotemagic on February 26, 2015, 04:07:09 AM
Gorgeous!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Dirigible-Al on February 26, 2015, 04:33:23 AM
Hi Arnaud
Reaaly superb work, well done
Alan
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: Naimbs on February 26, 2015, 06:06:00 PM
Bud, Alan, Thank you for your positive feedback!
Title: Re: DFW-28 Floh (Eduard 1/48)
Post by: ondra on February 27, 2015, 09:52:50 PM
Excellent job, Arnaud, congratulations on a very nice model!

Cheers.

Ondra