forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com
Forum Archive Storage => Des Delatorre International Memorial Group Build => Topic started by: RAGIII on February 02, 2019, 11:45:06 PM
-
I have decided to build the controversial Fokker DVII "Du Doch Nicht" as my Entry/Tribute to Des. Still undecided as to what "Version" of the many possibilities I will go with. Of course my entry had to have stripes 8)
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/fbRS25g4/DSCF8298.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/DZWJF0TB/DSCF8302.jpg)
-
Hi Rick
Looking forward to yours as I am to all the builds in this group. I now have to look up "Du Doch Nicht" - "You No Nothing" (by my poor German)???
Cheers
Alistair
-
Nice Rick ;)
Another great kit for you to weave your magic on...
Guy
-
Great choice Rick, and a scheme I'd like to tackle some day.
"Of course my entry had to have stripes"
The real question is "what color"! :o :-\
I'll be watching for further developments.
Cheers,
Lance
-
I now have to look up "Du Doch Nicht" - "You No Nothing" (by my poor German)???
I would say "But not you" or "Of course not you" to shot him down.
Cheers,
Frank
-
Great choice Rick, and a scheme I'd like to tackle some day.
"Of course my entry had to have stripes"
The real question is "what color"! :o :-\
I'll be watching for further developments.
Cheers,
Lance
This May or May not give an indication of my thoughts 8)
RAGIII
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=6612.0
-
Ah, great thing. I'm looking forward your build.
Bye,
'Manni
-
Great choice, Rick! Udet's „Du doch nicht" from Revell (1/72) was one of my boyhood's heroes! And although it seems that Revell did not reproduce the historically right look of this machine of Udet's, it's the only „true“ look for me, haha! 😀
-
The king of stripey aircraft stripes again! Really looking forward to following along, Amigo! I know it will be another one of your master works.
Cheers,
Bud
-
Oh what a lovely project, I always loved the classic Du doch nicht! most, all red fuselage with white stripes over red. But I know, I know, it’s probably wrong. However, I am keen on following your progress, Rick!
Best regards
Andreas
-
Another icon of the first air war, will follow with great pleasure.
Ciao
Giuseppe
-
Looking forward to your progress Rick. Great choice.
-
Hi Rick! I will watch this one with rapt attention! Lovely choice!
Marc
-
Rick,
Funny thing anytime I see a striped fighter you're first modeler to come to mind my old friend. I'm so looking forward to following your Fokker progress. Best of luck to you in the GB.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
PS: Enjoy your retirement !
-
A stripey one from Rick: this will be worth keeping an eye on. Best of luck rick - I will be dropping by periodically as time allows at the moment.
Stephen.
-
First, thanks for all of the encouragement! No need to go into the history of Du Doch Nicht but I will now "Officially" go over my choices on Manufacturer and scheme. Funny thing is I know from my poll that at least half of you will not agree ::)
1. OAW built from the first production run.
2. Red and White stripes on the upper and lower surface of the upper wing.
3. Red Fuselage with Black Nose
4. Chevron on the upper tail
5. NO white stripes on the fuselage decking.
I have been involved in and read most of the arguments on this Machine so lets just agree that NO ONE can prove anything! My final decision was based largely upon what Jasta 4 was flying at the time as well as Dave Roberts discussion in The Fokker DVII anthology Vol 2.
QUESTION:
So my first actual photos. I will be using the Aviattic Lozenge for the lower wing surfaces. Next comes the challenge. I have identified the panels seen in the photos as the proper ones from the OAW sprue. My issue is which radiator to use and which upper cockpit decking. ( None of the choices in the WNW OAW DVII utilize the early panels or exhaust) If all else fails I will go with the similar items from the early Fokker built example as they were very close to the early OAW in Most respects. Any assistance is appreciated!
(https://i.postimg.cc/7YwLQV6W/53698436-2668664649827257-3953683340619415552-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/d0L3jV1Q/53257581-2668664589827263-6236668409329745920-n.jpg)
-
Unfortunately I can't help you with your questions, Rick, but I like the choice of your subject (Revell's 1/72 Fokker D.VII „Du doch nicht!“ Was one of my boyhood's heroes..!) and your decisions concerning the look of Udet's plane. Looking forward to your build!
Richard
-
Maybe the instructions from the WNW decals for Karl Thom's aircraft may help?
http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/product?productid=3083
Good luck with your build!
Jeroen
-
Hey Rick, don't have an answer to your question. All I can say is have fun with it, we will reap the rewards.
-
Maybe the instructions from the WNW decals for Karl Thom's aircraft may help?
http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/product?productid=3083
Good luck with your build!
Jeroen
Thanks. Although the engine is different I will have to check on the other parts.
RAGIII
-
The decal instructions verified I had selected the proper cowl panels and helped clear up the rest so again thanks for the link! Here is some of My reference for the build. I am starting with the wings figuring if I don't get the stripes right I can go to plan B 8) This is my 5th WNW DVII and I noticed a Small issue I had not seen on any of the previous builds. The upper wing trailing edge scallops did not match up so I had to do some filling and sanding on the scallops. ( Seems like the upper half was just a fraction shorter chordwise, on the scallops). Next up Aviattic lozenge on the lower wing and some nice red and white stripes on the upper.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/x12sTgf2/54198813-2673631205997268-8332813428477394944-n.jpg)
-
Looking forward on seeing how the stripes turn out :)
Terri
-
Looking forward on seeing how the stripes turn out :)
Terri
A belated thanks T!.
So having finished the Nieuport build I went back to this one. As seen above I am using the Dave Roberts drawing in the Windsock Fokker Anthology as My pattern. I enlarged the drawing and did some basic measuring and began to mask. All went well with no major touch up needed.... until I counted the stripes and realized I was one short of what Dave says you need, 32 instead of 33 :-[ So I guess I will wait a day or two and strip this and re-paint :'(
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/15192S9B/58890862-2757227424304312-5277634866769297408-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/9X7mL0jz/58864982-2757227504304304-2985960628247592960-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/NFmQFJxR/58755000-2757227350970986-8118335380329070592-n.jpg)
-
Hi Rick,
We are our own worst enemies - I'm guessing like me it will bug you unless you get it sorted.
It's a real shame as what you've done looks really good, especially with the risks involved in masking.
Whatever you do, this model is looking to be a stunner,
Mike
-
I agree with Mike Rick: but I really wonder a) how mny people would know how many stripes there should be and b) how many people would count them even if they knew the correct number?
That aside I know how much yo wish to make an accurate replica - hence the strip and repaint job! Good luck with it - the first attempt looked near perfect.
Stephen.
-
I agree completely with Mike and Stephen. It looks perfect as is, but if you must, you must...
Cheers,
Bud
-
Oh, yeah. Forgot to mention, you could post the same photo in a day or two, say that you fixed it, and no one would be the wiser. ;)
Cheers,
Bud
-
Thanks not only for the compliments but on giving Me reason for thought. I also received this comment from Aviation Artist and Modeler Robert Karr on FB.
" You know- that one heavily retouched photo is ( so far) about all we have to go on, and the more you fiddle with that picture and draw a gazillion lines on it, the more you realize that there's no 100% perfect information to be tortured out of it. Better men than I have tried plotting these stripes, but in my own several attempts I came up with anything from 32 to 34 stripes. IF you're happy with how your stripes look- I'd just say go with them!"
In addition I checked Greg van Wyngardens Drawing in Fokker DVII Aces book and he has 32 stripes although he leads off with white on the right wing tip and of course did the stripes black 8)
I will ponder this for a day or two :o
RAGIII
-
I will ponder this for a day or two :o
RAGIII
Then re-post the last photo, indicating the corrections....
Cheers,
Bud
-
I will ponder this for a day or two :o
RAGIII
Then re-post the last photo, indicating the corrections....
Cheers,
Bud
;D
RAGIII
-
With Bud on this one Rick . But if you must you must . What you have done so far looks fantastic and I would leave it as is .
Terri
-
Agree with the crowd Rick, looks great and no one will count the stripes. If you can live with it, my vote is leave it alone, but you will make the final decision.
-
With Bud on this one Rick . But if you must you must . What you have done so far looks fantastic and I would leave it as is .
Terri
Thanks T. I am officially in Day 1 of thinking about the stripes 8)
RAGIII
Agree with the crowd Rick, looks great and no one will count the stripes. If you can live with it, my vote is leave it alone, but you will make the final decision.
Thanks Juan, Like I said this is day one of consideration of the issue ::)
RAGIII
-
Agree with the crowd Rick, looks great and no one will count the stripes. If you can live with it, my vote is leave it alone, but you will make the final decision.
Same here Amigo not worth the effort !
Ed
-
Agree with the crowd Rick, looks great and no one will count the stripes. If you can live with it, my vote is leave it alone, but you will make the final decision.
Same here Amigo not worth the effort !
Ed
Thanks Amigo. Could be going that way...I will know tomorrow. It depends on my Local Hobby Shop and if they have Tamiya white in stock :o
RAGIII
-
A man has to know his limitations. ;D
I think you'd be mad to redo this - who's counting? It looks great and we all know that WW1 references are blurry anyway.
I say "Carry on and keep calm".
Cheers
Alistair
-
leave it be, Rick, looks perfect as is. Photoshop in another stripe to the pic and repost that! Regards Pete in RI
-
Totally leave it be Rick!
Looks great and would be criminal to strip...
Guy
-
A man has to know his limitations. ;D
I think you'd be mad to redo this - who's counting? It looks great and we all know that WW1 references are blurry anyway.
I say "Carry on and keep calm".
Cheers
Alistair
Thanks for commenting Alistair!
RAGIII
leave it be, Rick, looks perfect as is. Photoshop in another stripe to the pic and repost that! Regards Pete in RI
Thanks Pete.
RAGIII
Totally leave it be Rick!
Looks great and would be criminal to strip...
Guy
Thanks for commenting Guy.
RAGIII
So the Mechanics worked overnight and painted the stripes on the Undersurface of the upper wing. There were 2 choices here:
1. Do like Kirschtein's DR1 and reverse the stripes.
2. Do like Kirschtein"s DVII and keep them the same direction.
I chose option 2. why? Because I liked it ::) So just a tad of touch up and I will move on to the interior.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/tTWbZqLm/59177998-2764536506906737-7283076245414215680-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/fW7ZMb7V/59325789-2764536633573391-809342804034584576-n.jpg)
-
A wise decision Rick and the underside looks fabulous too.
Stephen.
-
A wise decision Rick and the underside looks fabulous too.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen, Greatly Appreciated! I started on the interior today so hopefully progress photos soon 8)
RAGIII
-
I intentionally didn’t get into that issue earlier to avoid me becoming dramatic like „Nooooo! Don’t strip that beautiful upper wing! For heavens sake!“ . So it is good to see you leaving it as it is :)
Andreas
-
I intentionally didn’t get into that issue earlier to avoid me becoming dramatic like „Nooooo! Don’t strip that beautiful upper wing! For heavens sake!“ . So it is good to see you leaving it as it is :)
Andreas
Thanks Andreas fo your support ;D
RAGIII
-
The wings look fine, Rick. I wouldn't repaint.
-
The wings look fine, Rick. I wouldn't repaint.
Thanks Ken, they are staying as is....for now 8) So I have made a basic start on the interior. Still lots it is a start!
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/9Q9WYLXx/59724473-2774734245886963-160952245855191040-n.jpg)
-
Sorry for being little late, I totally agree on leaving the upper wing as it is (and it's perfect!). I also share your initial feelings as I'm in the tedious process of redoing the wings of my LVG C.VI after removing lozenges (and unfortunately also the painting beneath, damaged by decal remover solution). So I'm really happy for you.
Ciao
Giuseppe
-
Lovely wongs. Lovely interior. It will be another beauty, Rick!
-
Sorry for being little late, I totally agree on leaving the upper wing as it is (and it's perfect!). I also share your initial feelings as I'm in the tedious process of redoing the wings of my LVG C.VI after removing lozenges (and unfortunately also the painting beneath, damaged by decal remover solution). So I'm really happy for you.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Thanks for looking in and commenting Giuseppe!
RAGIII
Lovely wongs. Lovely interior. It will be another beauty, Rick!
Thanks Przemo, greatly appreciated!
RAGIII
-
Nice start on the pit Rick :)
Terri
-
Nice start on the pit Rick :)
Terri
Thanks T. Greatly appreciate you following along!
RAGIII
-
A small update. Started adding wiring to the control stick and put some future on the instrument dials. I have also begun to work on the seat. I have covered all but the bottom of the seat with Aviattic Linen decals. I will most likely do the bottom in ply.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/76hqWJph/60056102-2779605475399840-2124266549446443008-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/ydG74YHP/60358229-2779605555399832-4528181597811245056-n.jpg)
-
Nice effect on the seat back
Steve
-
Good work on that cockpit, Rick. It's coming together nicely.
-
Nice effect on the seat back
Steve
Thanks Steve. I appreciate the comment!
RAGIII
Good work on that cockpit, Rick. It's coming together nicely.
I still have much to do!
RAGIII
Thanks.
-
Great interior. This is going to be another I-need-to-build-that-too-one-day models from your bench :)
Andreas
-
Great interior. This is going to be another I-need-to-build-that-too-one-day models from your bench :)
Andreas
Thanks Andreas!
RAGIII
-
Nice touch on the seatback Rick and the rest of the pit is looking fantastic with your wood tones . Very cool :)
Terri
-
Thanks T!
RAGIII
-
Nice touch on the seatback Rick and the rest of the pit is looking fantastic with your wood tones . Very cool :)
Terri
Ditto !!
Ed
-
Nice touch on the seatback Rick and the rest of the pit is looking fantastic with your wood tones . Very cool :)
Terri
Ditto !!
Ed
Thanks Amigo!
RAGIII
-
That is really coming on a treat Rick. I too like the saet bck - the lozenge canvas effect looks very realistic indeed.
Stephen.
-
Thanks Stephen. I appreciate the comment 😁
RAGIII
-
Further work on the interior. I have dirtied up the seat and added the belts. Also added control wires and cables from the spark advance control and throttle. Bracing wires added but need further work.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/fypGmHvZ/60397503-2789413541085700-4925439899160543232-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/rwHLkw4z/60710911-2789430091084045-462193289127264256-n.jpg)
-
Nice update!!
Steve
-
Looks outstanding Rick, looking forward to it all coming together.
-
Very nice up-date Rick . Pit is looking terrific so far !
Terri
-
Nice update!!
Steve
Thanks Steve. As always I appreciate you looking in and commenting!
RAGIII
Looks outstanding Rick, looking forward to it all coming together.
Thanks, I appreciate your comment Juan!
RAGIII
Very nice up-date Rick . Pit is looking terrific so far !
Terri
Thanks T. Greatly appreciated!
RAGIII
-
Rick, you show here a really nice Fokker with beautiful details! My Fokker will not reach that level due to the smaller scale :(
It's a great pleasure to watch your progress!
Cheers,
Frank
-
Superb work on the innards, Amigo! That seat is especially convincing.
Cheers,
Bud
-
Rick, you show here a really nice Fokker with beautiful details! My Fokker will not reach that level due to the smaller scale :(
It's a great pleasure to watch your progress!
Cheers,
Frank
Thanks Frank but having seen what you do in 1/48th I have no doubt your details will be awesome!
RAGIII
Superb work on the innards, Amigo! That seat is especially convincing.
Cheers,
Bud
Thanks Amigo. Greatly appreciated.
RAGIII
and the interior is basically finished. Upper decking resting in place. Next up engine bay frames and engine.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/pX1DTRTg/60346999-2791478510879203-103631006732386304-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/BnL2PkPt/60387533-2791478554212532-8007497336869617664-n.jpg)
-
That interior is the dog's b...cks Rick. The extra details that you have added and the worn look to the seat really make the whole thing look much larger than it really is.
Stephen.
-
That interior is the dog's b...cks Rick. The extra details that you have added and the worn look to the seat really make the whole thing look much larger than it really is.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen I greatly appreciate your kind comments! A funny thing here. I had placed a bezel on the compass to see how it would look...NO GLUE! I forgot all about it, took the photos, handled it for hours, and it was still there today when I started working on the engine bay frames! So I took it off, painted it silver, then placed it on my desk. Next time I looked for it it was gone. Went to the carpet and actually found it!! So now it is glued in place ::)
RAGIII
PS: I finished the engine mount frames without breaking or bending any....a first for me on this, My 5th, DVII ::)
(https://i.postimg.cc/DZ73JkGR/60801365-2793125390714515-2767834864374775808-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/VLhw7hyb/60560488-2793125314047856-4798113261503381504-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/tCJyNjcj/60583143-2793125267381194-234148740665966592-n.jpg)
-
Looking really good there - fine work. Makes me want to start another DVII myself :)
-
Looking really good there - fine work. Makes me want to start another DVII myself :)
Thanks for looking in and the comment!
RAGIII
-
Excellent looking interior, Rick.
Your 5th D.VII? You must know this plane really well.
-
Excellent looking interior, Rick.
Your 5th D.VII? You must know this plane really well.
Thanks for the comment as always! :
#1. (https://i.postimg.cc/yYZwZvfy/208456-627808730579536-1058636020-n.jpg)
#2. (https://i.postimg.cc/BnfRcHk9/10307235-884262488267491-6780052099443893657-n.jpg)
#3. (https://i.postimg.cc/52VqM0k4/fokkerdvii040-zps7c780e11.jpg)
#4. (https://i.postimg.cc/fyGZc7sj/DSCF8283.jpg)
RAGIII
-
Ooh lovely Rick!
Guy
-
Thanks Guy! The Udet DVII is the last I will do for the JG1 collection and hopefully will be the best of the bunch 8)
RAGIII
-
Progress on this one going great, will be a wonderful 5th addition, bring it or all 5 to Nooga !
Ed
-
That's the finest collection of Fokker D.VII's I've ever seen, Amigo! Your streaking is second to none. Can't wait to see Du Doch Nicht completed.
Cheers,
Bud
-
Progress on this one going great, will be a wonderful 5th addition, bring it or all 5 to Nooga !
Ed
That's the finest collection of Fokker D.VII's I've ever seen, Amigo! Your streaking is second to none. Can't wait to see Du Doch Nicht completed.
Cheers,
Bud
Thanks Amigos! I am moving relatively quickly on this one. The engine is complete except for a bit of work to do on the plug wires. Fuselage is joined and the upper decking glued in place.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/LsjgBHF8/60534776-2795189330508121-969086312948695040-n.jpg)
-
That is a lovely collection of Fokkers Rick: all of them are first class so the current build will be joining good company.
Stephen.
-
That's the finest collection of Fokker D.VII's I've ever seen, Amigo! Your streaking is second to none. Can't wait to see Du Doch Nicht completed.
Cheers,
Bud
I totally agree.
Ciao
Giuseppe
-
Beautiful collection Rick, looking forward to your newest addition.
-
That is a lovely collection of Fokkers Rick: all of them are first class so the current build will be joining good company.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen! I appreciate the encouragement!
RAGIII
That's the finest collection of Fokker D.VII's I've ever seen, Amigo! Your streaking is second to none. Can't wait to see Du Doch Nicht completed.
Cheers,
Bud
I totally agree.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Thanks for commenting Giuseppe!
RAGIII
Beautiful collection Rick, looking forward to your newest addition.
Thanks Juan. Greatly appreciated!
RAGIII
-
I have to be honest. Looking at the photos of the engine I really didn't like the results. So I am about 3/4 of the way through on a replacement (Had a Spare).
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/G2nJpZcZ/60825084-2798765003483887-118145432097390592-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/63VV4YqT/61073705-2798765910150463-5805664343777345536-n.jpg)
-
I like it Rick , each one you do gets better and better 8)
What did you not like about your work on the first engine if I may ask ?
Terri
-
Fantastic builds - love the results.cheers Matt
-
I like it Rick , each one you do gets better and better 8)
What did you not like about your work on the first engine if I may ask ?
Terri
Thanks T. The first engine was over weathered and had some issues with paint peeling off of the wires. Used a different material this time .
RAGIII
Fantastic builds - love the results.cheers Matt
Thanks for the comment Matt!
RAGIII
-
The second engine is now complete and weathered. I also filled and sanded the side panel lines.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/SRxb7BNP/60705378-2800617539965300-6499073537972633600-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/GmywQJdb/60902002-2800617703298617-2854961424185163776-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/yY5Ccrqf/60882850-2800604056633315-4740701978391216128-n.jpg)
-
I can see why you wanted to replace the first engine, Amigo. It looked a little blurry, kinda out of focus. Just kidding. It looked fantastic, but the second one looks even better! Love it!
Cheers,
Bud
-
Very nice engine, the weathering looks realistic and the wiring is superb.
Good work,
Bye,
Manni
-
I can see why you wanted to replace the first engine, Amigo. It looked a little blurry, kinda out of focus. Just kidding. It looked fantastic, but the second one looks even better! Love it!
Cheers,
Bud
Thanks Bud! I noticed the slightly out of focus stuff but too late to correct now :-[
RAGIII
Very nice engine, the weathering looks realistic and the wiring is superb.
Good work,
Bye,
Manni
Thanks Manni!
RAGIII
-
Another nice one from the Fokker Factory. Name change to Anthony?
Steve
-
Very nice fuselage, Rick. I love the red.
Andreas
-
[SEE Buds' original post of May 21 at 11;55;07AM]
Rick,
High praise from our Amigo, he has seen my streaking in person and from what I see on the DVII, he is 100% correct !
Ed
-
Another nice one from the Fokker Factory. Name change to Anthony?
Steve
Thanks Steve ;D
RAGIII
Very nice fuselage, Rick. I love the red.
Andreas
Thanks Andreas. The red is a mixture from a couple of Valejo reds.
RAGIII
[SEE Buds' original post of May 21 at 11;55;07AM]
Rick,
High praise from our Amigo, he has seen my streaking in person and from what I see on the DVII, he is 100% correct !
Ed
Thanks Amigo. Personally I still think you are the Master!
RAGIII
and the base coat of red is applied:
(https://i.postimg.cc/tCZrxx1h/60715672-2802512073109180-5674699585352630272-n.jpg)
RAGIII
-
One step forward and one step back! I managed to add the engine and radiator lower cowl assembly. While doing so the two triangular panels that had been carefully filled and sanded broke loose. So now to sand, refill, sand, and repaint that seam >:(
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/6qChhsXX/61150602-2804330912927296-6485819457875738624-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/8kvwGvr0/61162559-2804330826260638-8202143266154479616-n.jpg)
-
The slight mishap of the detaching triangular panels was sanded, filled, and sanded again. Then re-painted. Last the forward panels are all attached:
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/hv4gRpzx/61325271-2806261632734224-217968842947690496-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/dQnwjPp9/61360903-2806261586067562-2901252379837988864-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Wz9VNggy/61519697-2806261919400862-5012491619165798400-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/vTnKjnX9/60949343-2806261956067525-610034185238740992-n.jpg)
-
Great recovery Rick, looks great. Sad that the beautiful engine will be hidden behind panels. Looking forward to your adventures.
-
Hi Rick - just caught up with this one. Very nice work indeed.
Cheers,
Gary
-
Great recovery Rick, looks great. Sad that the beautiful engine will be hidden behind panels. Looking forward to your adventures.
Thanks Juan, I appreciate the comments! The engine will be even more covered up once the troughs are installed. Virtually nothing is seen ::)
RAGIII
Hi Rick - just caught up with this one. Very nice work indeed.
Cheers,
Gary
Thanks for dropping in and the comment Gary!
RAGIII
-
Saved in true Rick style. Well done that man!
Keep on keeping on Amigo ;)
vB
-
Saved in true Rick style. Well done that man!
Keep on keeping on Amigo ;)
vB
Thanks vB, True Rick Style... Screw something up and recover ;D
RAGIII
-
I have worked in some contrast in the red and black using oils. Two shades of red oils blended in and burnt umber on the black. Once glossed and markings are applied I will go back with some Earth Tones in oils and Pastels.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/ncmN9dRY/61143097-2809754492384938-8777659417710559232-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/jSrmHzBV/61445957-2809754545718266-276643941661540352-n.jpg)
-
Gloss coat applied and the wing sitting on top of the fuselage. Just for the record I am starting to like this one 8)
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/43NnLHjy/61776955-2809969789030075-4829525050283524096-n.jpg)
-
What didn't you like before Rick, simply stunning. :D
-
Stunning model, Rick. The stripes are really cool looking. Great.
Bye,
Manni
-
What didn't you like before Rick, simply stunning. :D
Thanks as always Juan! As for the Liking it part I often find my interest really picks up in a project when ready for the Markings. One of My favorite parts in the process ;D
RAGIII
Stunning model, Rick. The stripes are really cool looking. Great.
Bye,
Manni
Thanks Manni. Greatly appreciated!
RAGIII
-
Just for the record I am starting to like this one 8)
Mee too! 8)
Cheers,
Frank
-
Just for the record I am starting to like this one 8)
Mee too! 8)
Cheers,
Frank
Thanks Frank. Your comment is appreciated!
RAGIII
-
Rick,
That looks just awesome!
-
That is looking very good, Rick.
-
Rick,
That looks just awesome!
Thanks Gaz. Appreciated as always!
RAGIII
That is looking very good, Rick.
Thanks Ken. Always appreciated!
RAGIII
-
So, all of the markings are in place. Need to do a bit of touch up here and there but generally pleased with the results. I had to trim all of the crosses from other WNW DVII kits. The chevron was made using stripes from a WNW Albatros sheet cut to shape. The triangular front of the chevron was made from a triangle included on a Pheon Dolphin sheet. Lo and DU Doch Nicht are supplied on the WNW Fokker DVII F decal sheet.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/s2VbgtMv/61613962-2813424075351313-309544748358565888-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/W1mQj2bB/61666367-2813424015351319-1985131238511345664-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/qRFFQqj3/61466437-2813446252015762-229967495514030080-n.jpg)
-
Magnificent and well thought through build of a controversial classic. Love it.
Cheers
Syd
-
Magnificent and well thought through build of a controversial classic. Love it.
Cheers
Syd
Thanks Syd. Your comments are appreciated!
RAGIII
-
(https://cdn.dribbble.com/users/46942/screenshots/867599/eye-candy.jpg)
-
(https://cdn.dribbble.com/users/46942/screenshots/867599/eye-candy.jpg)
Thanks Bob! It took me a minute, still on My morning coffee here in the US ::)
RAGIII
-
The markings look sweet!
-
The markings look sweet!
Thanks for the comment Gaz!
RAGIII
-
This Fokker looks great, as your others. I really like the color tones!
Respecting the fact, that you don't have to put too much time into rigging, this aircraft seems to be ready soon.
Cheers,
Frank
-
Rick , turning out to be a fantastic thread to follow . She is looking very sweet indeed :)
Terri
-
This Fokker looks great, as your others. I really like the color tones!
Respecting the fact, that you don't have to put too much time into rigging, this aircraft seems to be ready soon.
Cheers,
Frank
Thanks Frank. Greatly appreciated! Still a bit to do before I can call it done but it is getting closer!
RAGIII
Rick , turning out to be a fantastic thread to follow . She is looking very sweet indeed :)
Terri
Thanks Terri. I always enjoy you following along and commenting!
RAGIII
-
A small update. The MGs are installed and the landing gear painted and attached. Next up the fin and rudder then SLIGHT weathering.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/6Q6K1M6g/61828357-2820507704642950-7069671509593161728-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/BnBsgr32/61850717-2820507881309599-2055851646021271552-n.jpg)
PS: Still need to paint the arming handles ::)
-
That is simply gorgeous Rick.
-
That is simply gorgeous Rick.
Thanks Juan. As always I am pleased that you follow along on my builds! One other thing I forgot was to thank Rob Owens for sending the PE Jackets, ( actually the whole DVII PE fret), at no cost. His only request was that I pay it forward, something I do whenever I can help out another modeler with something I have!
RAGIII
-
Love it, Rick!
-
This may be your best D.VII yet?
The machine guns look great in the pictures and the red color looks toned down as to be realistic.
-
Love it, Rick!
Thanks Gaz. Greatly appreciated!
RAGIII
This may be your best D.VII yet?
The machine guns look great in the pictures and the red color looks toned down as to be realistic.
Thanks Ken. Still need to get the upper wing on without damaging anything ::)
RAGIII
-
Time for opinions!!!! As is obvious I have chosen OAW as the builder of My Du Doch Nicht. Moving on to the fin and rudder I asked Myself this question, If Ernst had just had the ENTIRE fuselage and empennage painted red why not the fin to match? Most, if not all Artists and Modelers go with a white fin and rudder per OAW practice. In addition some OAW DVII's had CDL fins and rudders. The question is am I pushing too far by painting the fin red and rudder CDL or white? The photo shows CDL rudder and red fin. Let Me know your thoughts...please!
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/7Yf6pCfm/61949896-451822042031410-6085551711596838912-n.jpg)
-
I think this is simply guess, because he hides the middle of the plane on the photo.
On page 17 in Anthology 2 is a (grey) drawing, and here rudder and fin seems to have the same color as the stripe (you showed it on page 2 of this thread).
But nobody can prove it or the opposite, so feel free to paint a nice Fokker.
This is the nice thing about WWI models: there is some freedom, so not all models looks the same and all builders are right 8)
A quick search for "Du doch nicht" found pictures with a half red stabilizer:
(https://www.aviationgraphic.com/3409-large_default/fokker-dvii-ernst-udet-jasta-4-ag-26.jpg)
Source: aviationgraphic.com
And a museum:
(https://havingfuninthetexassun.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/cimg0068.jpg?w=620)
https://havingfuninthetexassun.com/2015/01/10/cavanaugh-flight-museum-addison/
My 2 cents.
Cheers,
Frank
-
Agree with Frank, the final decision is yours Rick (and I would do whatever I liked best). Your option could have been done at the unit level and not the factory, so its anyone's guess. Your current choice looks great and no one could definitely prove you wrong, so my 2 cents is...... your choice will be correct. :o
-
Todays progress. The upper wing is mounted and glued in place. Just need to do some touch up on the struts. I will continue to add some weathering but feel like this one is finally in the Home Stretch! The fin and rudder are just resting in place as I am still considering the colors!
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/SR9vkZWy/61792568-2825007117526342-657027222015574016-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/kgJfpMhM/61921997-2825007157526338-1968482927364800512-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/13vJhxLG/61923846-2825007210859666-9005590763718836224-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/ncZkXcxK/62238297-2825007064193014-814939794961334272-n.jpg)
-
Beautiful and very neat build Rick! I love the "metal" shine of the engine panels
-
Beautiful and very neat build Rick! I love the "metal" shine of the engine panels
Thanks for dropping in and commenting Claudio! It will be a day or two before I have an update so leaving this photo just for fun.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/hjM4S97w/wyrx39dr-20190607015530.jpg)
-
Great photo!
(Now, you need to add Ernest to cover the fuselage) ;D
-
Great photo!
(Now, you need to add Ernest to cover the fuselage) ;D
Thanks again Claudio. I am going to try to get a figure that is at least close to Udet's pose. If only I could sculpt and convert figures :(
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/SxB0VSJ1/62169471-2830119603681760-3823265902762131456-n.jpg)
-
A beautiful build of a very cool plane with a sensational colour scheme! Thanks for sharing Rick.
Cheers
Alistair
-
A beautiful build of a very cool plane with a sensational colour scheme! Thanks for sharing Rick.
Cheers
Alistair
Thanks Alistair, greatly appreciated. Still a bit to do before it is done 8)
RAGIII
-
A small update. The rudder is attached, gun butt pads added, and all is ready for rigging the control surfaces, final weathering and clear coats. I will add the lift rings and steps last. I also took the time to use My Camera vs My Phone and think the photos are a bit better
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/25XLTd3m/DSCF8426.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/85mQN4Wg/DSCF8429.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/dQCZmyFP/DSCF8431.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Rh1FrwCW/DSCF8442.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/W4cHzrsN/DSCF8443.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/fbvBbrHC/DSCF8445.jpg)
-
She looks beautiful, Rick! You've really nailed the look! I have a Fokker but haven't built it yet. How do you find the strut strength with the upper wing joined? I've always been concerned that everything will be pretty weak without rigging to make it more sturdy.
Gaz
-
She looks beautiful, Rick! You've really nailed the look! I have a Fokker but haven't built it yet. How do you find the strut strength with the upper wing joined? I've always been concerned that everything will be pretty weak without rigging to make it more sturdy.
Gaz
Thanks Gaz! As for the strength of the wing structure I feel it is quite strong. As long as the cabane tripod and rear cabanes are seated correctly everything stays in place with no movement. Like most WNW kits the gear is a bit wobbly ;D
RAGIII
PS: I still wouldn't recommend handling it by the upper wing, but then again I don't do that with any of My fully rigged biplanes 8)
-
Nice work!! Approaching the finish line. Now about the Nieuport 24..........
Steve
-
Nice work!! Approaching the finish line. Now about the Nieuport 24..........
Steve
Thanks Steve. Yes very close now to finishing this one. The Nieuport 24 is on hold until I finish the Albatros DV and Pfalz DIIIa. Probably @ 3 months 8)
RAGIII
-
...like I should throw stones about starting a project.....
Steve
-
Oh Rick, you already finished her. I had been off here for a while and I was keen on seeing your progress. And it looks even better than I would have expected! A wonderful finish!
Andreas
-
Oh Rick, you already finished her. I had been off here for a while and I was keen on seeing your progress. And it looks even better than I would have expected! A wonderful finish!
Andreas
Thanks Andreas. Not quite finished yet. Still lacks the final clear coats and some pastels. 8)
RAGIII
-
I'm really looking forward on the final pic's Rick , love those stripes !
Terri
-
I'm really looking forward on the final pic's Rick , love those stripes !
Terri
Thanks T. I should get this one done today or tomorrow. Photos soon!
RAGIII
-
Last photo before the completed shots. All that is left is smoke and mirrors turnbuckles on the control wires and just a tad more weathering.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/YCYnd6LT/62383989-2836422276384826-6412348776647753728-n.jpg)
-
Just catching up with this. That looks fantastic, Rick! One of my favorites.
Drew
-
Thanks Drew, Good to have you on board!
RAGIII
-
I was not at home at Whitsun, but you have made a good progress on your Fokker the last days.
The blue/grey painting around the lower crosses is a very interesting detail!
The next bird nearly finished - the outcome of this group build is very impressive!
Cheers,
Frank
-
I was not at home at Whitsun, but you have made a good progress on your Fokker the last days.
The blue/grey painting around the lower crosses is a very interesting detail!
The next bird nearly finished - the outcome of this group build is very impressive!
Cheers,
Frank
Thanks Frank and I am total agreement about the GB results to date! Final photos should be up by at latest tomorrow...providing no disasters strike tonight ;D
RAGIII
-
Looks sharp !!
Ed
-
Looks sharp !!
Ed
Thanks Amigo!
RAGIII
-
Du Doch Nicht is now finished. No Major Mods just typical interior wiring on the stick, throttle etc. I have really enjoyed this Tribute Build Dedicated to Des!
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/90QxvjjS/62522242-2840134429346944-5157456158499274752-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/pLVxJn8P/DSCF8473.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y9HWd3xv/DSCF8479.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/B6j2L6Ng/DSCF8487.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/XJ31kC1n/62456489-2840134709346916-6356153093834407936-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/SR1Z4tSK/64206055-2840134486013605-8755121628364406784-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/KcW0Fqnd/62463652-2836422746384779-4943579148074352640-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/LXTCC8GL/62480291-2840134056013648-2885228170389225472-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/g2X7zd6b/62362861-2840134619346925-7590358933282226176-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/prW7RFKs/62415814-2840134316013622-6608396132286464000-n.jpg)
-
Another one of your beauties Rick, congratulations. Really enjoyed following along.
-
Well, that certainly looks good, Rick.
How about a 'Fokker party' picture?
-
Another one of your beauties Rick, congratulations. Really enjoyed following along.
Thanks Juan. You have been a great support throughout My build!
RAGIII
Well, that certainly looks good, Rick.
How about a 'Fokker party' picture?
Greatly appreciated. Here is a start to group photos. Hopefully I will get all 5 in a shot in the future 8)
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/3RK9vHWR/64771202-2840202639340123-5290586448024567808-n.jpg)
-
King of the stripes - great build Rick - congratulations.
We should form a splinter group :D
Mike
-
King of the stripes - great build Rick - congratulations.
We should form a splinter group :D
Mike
Thanks Mike. I appreciate your comment!
RAGIII
-
Eye candy! I like it very much, one of the finest D. VII models I have ever seen.
-
Eye candy! I like it very much, one of the finest D. VII models I have ever seen.
Your comment is Way Too Kind but thank you! The scheme is indeed Eye Catching though!
RAGIII
-
Rick, this is a really nice continuation of your D.VII row, well executed again. Des would like it too, I'm sure!
(my favorite in this row is still the one with the orange strips and the Fokker style painting ???)
And you manage it to finish it in time 8) Groupbuilds starts often with great interest, but many participants do not finish their projects in time.
Cheers,
Frank
-
Rick , I love it ! You did one fantastic job on this build . She is Wunderbar !
Terri
-
Rick, this is a really nice continuation of your D.VII row, well executed again. Des would like it too, I'm sure!
(my favorite in this row is still the one with the orange strips and the Fokker style painting ???)
And you manage it to finish it in time 8) Groupbuilds starts often with great interest, but many participants do not finish their projects in time.
Cheers,
Frank
Thanks Frank your comments are appreciated. I have said this before but I Love being retired. Managed to finish two for the GB, this one and the Nieuport Probably could have done another if I pushed things 8)
RAGIII
Rick , I love it ! You did one fantastic job on this build . She is Wunderbar !
Terri
Thanks for following along and the comment T. Greatly appreciated!
RAGIII
-
In a single word: Great! One of my all time favorites.
Andreas
-
In a single word: Great! One of my all time favorites.
Andreas
Thank You Andreas. I appreciate such kind comments!
RAGIII
-
Absolutely stunning Rick! How are the judges going to pick? But who cares? We are all enjoying ourselves and sharing that. And that is what Des would want.
A wonderful model by you!
Cheers,
Alistair
-
Absolutely stunning Rick! How are the judges going to pick? But who cares? We are all enjoying ourselves and sharing that. And that is what Des would want.
A wonderful model by you!
Cheers,
Alistair
Thanks Alistair! Like you said I don't really care about the contest part it is participating and sharing in Honor of Des for Me!
RAGIII
-
Fantastic as always!
How many DVII do you have in your showcase?
:-O
Antonio
-
Fantastic as always!
How many DVII do you have in your showcase?
:-O
Antonio
Thanks Antonio! I appreciate your comments! I have 5 in the case now 8)
RAGIII
-
I have been away Rick and am struggling to catch up - just so glad that I have found this. You have provided a super log and an even better model - no matter about the wing stripes! Des would have really liked this model - it is certainly of a standard that he would have made.
Stephen.
-
I have been away Rick and am struggling to catch up - just so glad that I have found this. You have provided a super log and an even better model - no matter about the wing stripes! Des would have really liked this model - it is certainly of a standard that he would have made.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen. Greatly Appreciated!
RAGIII