forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com

WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: petero on August 15, 2016, 10:58:01 PM

Title: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: petero on August 15, 2016, 10:58:01 PM: Well, it's not really my very first WW1 build, but it's the first since the late 1960s or so! I discovered WW1 modeling after WNW started up, and instantly liked the W.29. Unfortunately it was already OOS, but I found one on eBay for a reasonable price. That was several years ago, so it's about time I got started.

Here is the interior...

(http://i.imgur.com/cPT0Lkt.jpg) (http://imgur.com/cPT0Lkt)

(http://i.imgur.com/B13rEO6.jpg) (http://imgur.com/B13rEO6)

(http://i.imgur.com/zG9Lrr8.jpg) (http://imgur.com/zG9Lrr8)

(http://i.imgur.com/IFxgFfR.jpg) (http://imgur.com/IFxgFfR)

I've used Eric Larson's wood grain technique, and I was lucky enough to get a one-on-one master class lesson from him. After that, it took me about a half-dozen attempts to get it reasonably good, but it's easy to remove and reapply. Practice makes perfect... or at least better than the time before.

You'll note that the observer's cockpit lacks the seat, seat belts and ammo rack. I'm building a post-war DLR mail plane, as I posted here:

http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=7491.0

I've created and printed decals for the DLR titles and postal flags, and all of the crosses will be painted over. Other than that, it appears to be in the usual wartime scheme. A company called Reality in Scale makes 1/35 WWII postal bags which should work for filling the former observer's cockpit. And, of course, all of the armament will be removed.

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: Ssasho0 on August 15, 2016, 11:23:45 PM: Excellent start is a phrase, that is used too often, but in this case it is 100% valid! It will be an interesting build to follow, so keep us updated on the progress.
Best regards,
Sasho
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: RAGIII on August 16, 2016, 12:23:36 AM: I have been building for 50 plus years. Your start on this kit looks like you have also! I only wish my interiors looked this sharp and clean!
RAGIII
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: lcarroll on August 16, 2016, 12:41:04 AM: Just an excellent job on the cockpit so far, Peter, your long absence from modelling is not at all apparent! I really like the subject you've chosen, it should be a very unique model when finished. Keep up the spectacular work.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: lone modeller on August 16, 2016, 02:51:24 AM: I wish that my first WW1 model had looked as good as this after my long break from modelling. Your interior is wonderful - and an interesting idea to present a mail plane in place of a wartime machine. This is going to be one to keep an eye on in future.

Stephen.
Title: Thanks for all the kind words!
Post by: petero on August 16, 2016, 06:17:35 AM: I've been modeling for 50-ish years too ;). This is a fun project because I've been building almost exclusively for Airfix Model World since they started in 2010. It's great to be doing something just for myself again, and not having to worry about photos, captions and articles. The editor has always allowed me to choose my own projects, so I've never been forced to build something I didn't want to, but all the overhead really does turn it into more of a job than a hobby after awhile.

This site and all you folks are a tremendous resource too. I wouldn't be doing anywhere near as well without you!

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: eclarson on August 16, 2016, 06:28:09 AM: You have learned well, my not-so-young apprentice. :-)

Eric
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: Des on August 16, 2016, 07:01:24 AM: You have done a superb job on the internals Peter, you certainly have mastered the wood grain technique.

Des.
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: Manni on August 16, 2016, 03:31:21 PM: Veeeery nice. The wood looks terrific and the interior seems to be like a good one but zoomed in with a 4K camera. So sharp and clean, great, simply great.
Manni
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: petero on August 18, 2016, 11:23:46 PM: I've now finished the engine, with spark plug wiring and lifter rods added.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5432_1.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5432_1.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5432.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5432.jpg.html)

Although most of the armament will be omitted, I've left the empty shell bucket in place, because it hides the prominent tab on the back of the instrument panel.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5435.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5435.jpg.html)

And here's the panel itself.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5433.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5433.jpg.html)

Next up, I'll work on covering the holes in the fuselage and cowlings where the guns were removed. I want to get that done before I insert the innards and engine into the fuselage, so I don't wreck anything ::)

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: Suffolk Lad on August 19, 2016, 12:26:47 AM: Hello Peter -

As someone who has only just got his first two WW1 builds completed I'd like to say what a cracking start you have made on your return to WW1. Lovely work indeed and a very nice engine, but that woodgrain on the panel is superbly done - no hint of build up around the various dials etc - great work if I may say so ;)

Looking forwards to seeing more

Tug
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: coyotemagic on August 19, 2016, 12:40:39 AM: Gorgeous work on the engine and interior, Peter! That instrument panel is superb.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: lcarroll on August 19, 2016, 12:46:36 AM: Splendid and spectacular work, Peter. Your clean and super detailed results show you haven't lost your touch, this is very very nicely done and I add my compliments to the others. I'll be following your progress with great interest and pleasure!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: lone modeller on August 19, 2016, 02:09:35 AM: I agree about the wood texture/tone on the instrument panel - that could easily be taken for real wood. This is outstanding modelling.

Stephen.
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: Manni on August 19, 2016, 04:12:13 PM: Wow, I wish I was able to have such a steady hand to paint my Brezels like you do. Very, very nice.
Manni
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: TobyCoulson on August 19, 2016, 04:33:34 PM: Great start. Your attention to detail especially the wood graining is to be complimented.
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: RAGIII on August 19, 2016, 09:31:17 PM: Beautiful work on the engine and panel! You are continuing on the path to a stunning build.
RAGIII
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: petero on August 22, 2016, 12:41:30 AM: No fancy photos this time, just a couple of quick workbench snaps with the phone.

The mail plane had the armament removed, and photos show panels added to cover up the holes where the guns and belts went. The photos are in the thread I referenced in the first post.

The panels were cut from 0.005" sheet, with rivets poked from the back with a #80 drill bit to make them look busy. The panels are only shown from the rear, so the triangular blanking plates on the cowl panels are a complete guess.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/IMG_6878-1.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/IMG_6878-1.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/IMG_6877-1.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/IMG_6877-1.jpg.html)

Since each side panel attaches to 3 kit parts, they won't be attached till after the fuselage is assembled.

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: Manni on August 22, 2016, 05:38:12 PM: Wow, what a forum! All theese highly skilled modelers around.
Very nice work!
Cheers,
Manni
Title: Mail call!
Post by: petero on August 25, 2016, 10:29:51 PM: The resin mail bags arrived from Reality in Scale, having taken just 10 days from the Netherlands to the USA. Great service!

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5443.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5443.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5440.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5440.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5436.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5436.jpg.html)

The set includes a half-dozen bags, so I chose the two that looked most interesting to me. The bottom ends had to be narrowed to fit between the auxiliary fuel tanks. I didn't try to stuff the compartment full, because I imagine the W.29 would have been weight-limited, and mailbags are heavy. The bags fit through the large observer's opening, so I can add them anytime.

Now I need to decide how the observer's opening would have been covered over. A simple canvas cover with fasteners around the edge? A metal cover? And would the gun mounting ring have been left in place, or removed along with the gun? Decisions, decisions ???

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: Des on August 25, 2016, 10:52:26 PM: Looking fantastic Peter, the mail bags are superb.

Des.
Title: The Mail must go through!
Post by: petero on September 01, 2016, 06:14:57 AM: The mail bags have been painted and added to the former observer's compartment.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5456.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5456.jpg.html)

Both bags were sprayed with Tamiya Buff for the base coat. They have a pronounced fabric texture, so to make them appear slightly different shades, one was given a very thin wash of Tamiya Red Brown, and the other was washed with Tamiya German Gray. I had to do some last-minute fettling on the shorter bag to make sure it would drop into place without snagging anything.

Here they are in place.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5458.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5458.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5459.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5459.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5461.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5461.jpg.html)

I was sorely tempted to paint the box protruding from the mail sack as an Amazon or WNW box, but decided not to. There's a separate package in the set, so I'll do that one instead, and leave it loose so I can include or omit it as the mood suits.

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: dr 1 ace on September 01, 2016, 06:31:10 AM: Mail bags are cool, what is the product # ??

Ed
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: petero on September 01, 2016, 06:59:04 AM: They are called "Postal Bags & Accessories WWII", and are Product no. 35202.

I would post a link, but I don't think that's allowed.

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: Brez on September 01, 2016, 07:45:01 AM: That is so neat! I'm very jealous.

Chears,
Tony.
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: Edo on September 01, 2016, 07:53:33 PM: Wow!
you build is sooo clean!
I'll never acheive such a result :-\
well done!
I can't wait to see it complete!
ciao
edo
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: Borsos on September 01, 2016, 08:29:26 PM: Another "wow" from my side! That's actually a very nice built and I am heavily impressed by the way these postal bags are looking. Absolutely convincing paint job!
Borsos
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: lone modeller on September 02, 2016, 02:58:15 AM: Very impressive indeed - those mail bags are a super addition. Very interesting to see a civilian aeroplane for a change.

Stephen.
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: jknaus on September 02, 2016, 06:42:18 AM: Very very cool work. Watching this with great interest.
James
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: RAGIII on September 02, 2016, 09:18:02 PM: Outstanding work on the pit! Those mail bags really do the trick!
RAGIII
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: PrzemoL on September 02, 2016, 09:19:39 PM: Nice and crisp looking interior. The extra mail bags add sooo much life. Very fine model in the making!
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: petero on September 09, 2016, 06:40:07 AM: Thanks everyone for your kind words! If it wasn't for all the good information here, this wouldn't be coming out nearly as well.

The fuselage has been closed up and painted, I've applied my DLR decals, and started on the lozenges. The DLR decals were drawn in PaintShop Pro X from the two photos of the actual plane, and printed on an ALPS MD 5000 printer.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5464.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5464.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5462.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5462.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/DSC_5462%20detail.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/DSC_5462%20detail.jpg.html)

The ALPS ink is very fragile, even with a liberal coating of MicroScale Liquid Decal Film, so I have a few touch-ups to make. The white undercoat is also slightly shifted under the DLR letters, but it doesn't show as much to the eye as on these photos. I'll wait till I do the final flat coat to decide whether or not to touch up the white.

The first sections of lozenge are also in place. They went down easily, and they snuggled down into the elevator hinge details with Mr. Mark Softer and gentle application of heat from a blow dryer. A spare pink lozenge was cut and used to cover the seam between the tail and spine decals.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5463.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5463.jpg.html)

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: RAGIII on September 09, 2016, 06:45:46 AM: Looks outstanding Peter! The self made decals came out well !! Your lozenge application is flawless.
RAGIII
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: Borsos on September 09, 2016, 07:00:51 AM: Wow! As somebody who tried frequently to print my own decals and who's never totally happy with my own efforts, I am admiring enviously your nice homemade decals. Absolutely outstanding!
Borsos
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: Manni on September 09, 2016, 02:30:21 PM: Wow, your decals match your former work on this plane, they are just outstanding!
Very good work.
Manni
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: Des on September 09, 2016, 02:36:18 PM: A superb job with your decals Peter, it is not always an easy task printing your own but the results you have achieved are excellent.

Des.
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: lcarroll on September 09, 2016, 10:53:32 PM: Now, that's impressive! Very nicely done!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: coyotemagic on September 10, 2016, 01:44:30 AM: Those decals look fantastic, Peter! This promises to be a real gem!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: Jacek on September 10, 2016, 03:13:30 AM: Very purely done.
So as I like it :D

Regards.
Jacek
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: petero on September 13, 2016, 06:09:09 AM: Thanks again for the encouragement! I've added the gun fairings. They're 0.005" plastic sheet, with rivets embossed from the back side with the plain end of a #80 drill bit. They were sprayed with Alclad Semi-Matte Aluminum, given a detail wash with Payne's Gray artist's acrylic, and overcoated with Alclad Aqua Gloss.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5467.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5467.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5468.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5468.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5465.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5465.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5466.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5466.jpg.html)

I've also decided not to touch up the white around the DLR titles, since I really don't have the skill to do it well. Better to leave it well enough alone ;). The white isn't as noticeable under the matte clear coat in any case.

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: RAGIII on September 13, 2016, 07:59:22 AM: Your fairing panels have turned out beautifully! Well Done!
RAGIII
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: petero on September 15, 2016, 01:21:11 AM: The fuselage is complete, except for the tachometer in front of the windshield. The Future/Kleer on the dial is still drying. Everything fits quite well, and the cowl panels sit in place without falling off, but are easy to remove to show off the engine.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5469.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5469.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5470.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5470.jpg.html)

The handles on the diagonal engine struts and the step below the cowling were drybrushed with Citadel Mithril Silver, as was the lower edge of the panel below the observer's hatch on each side. I assume that they were spring-loaded foot steps. If I meet a 120-year-old former Hansa mechanic at my local show, I'm sure he'll set me straight ;)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5471.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5471.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5472.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5472.jpg.html)

The clear panel under the cockpit is both a window, and a maintenance/inspection hatch that's hinged at the forward end. I figured that oil would drip onto it when the plane is at rest, so I added drops of oil (made, appropriately, from oil paints), and a bit of a smear behind the window. Since there's no firewall between the engine and the cockpit, I imagine the pilot's boots must have been well-oiled too!

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5473.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5473.jpg.html)
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: Manni on September 15, 2016, 05:48:23 PM: Peter, this looks very good. Very clean build and a top paint job.
Cheers,
Manni
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: petero on September 17, 2016, 11:36:40 PM: The two photos of the mail plane show a single exhaust, but I hadn't examined the photos in detail. When I did take a close look yesterday, I realized that the exhaust was on the opposite side from the usual exhausts, which led me to investigate further in the Windsock Datafile. The end result was that I discovered that the mail plane, and a few other single-exhaust examples shown in the book, actually had a different engine than the standard Bz.III.

So, out with the wrong engine! Luckily I was able to remove it cleanly without any collateral damage.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5475.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5475.jpg.html)

The most likely engine choice, from the table in the Windsock, is the Bz.IIIa. The other likely engine is the D.IIIa, as found in the WNW Albatros kits. I've got an Albatros, so I was able to measure the engine block and oil sump. The D.IIIa appears to be too long to fit, but the Bz.IIIa seems shorter. Fortunately WNW sells the Bz.IIIa separately, and I have one coming in from Weta. The engine ships from NZ, so the postage cost is about 1.5 times the engine's cost >:(, but the cheaper postage alternative would take 21+ days to arrive. I'd like to have this finished in time for the local GraniteCon IPMS show on October 16.

In the worst case, if the Bz.IIIa doesn't fit, I can drop the original engine back into place, and call it close enough.

On a positive note, I've done my first-ever rigging. It's just a test to see how it looks, but at least now I know I can actually thread those tiny tubes :o. The upper tube is 0.5mm dia., and the lower one is nested 0.4 and 0.6mm tubing.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/IMG_6986.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/IMG_6986.jpg.html)

I've modified the rigging attachments based on this thread:
http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=5189.0

Meanwhile, while waiting for the new engine to arrive, I'll work on the floats and wings.

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: steveb on September 18, 2016, 12:16:43 AM: Great work on the gun fairings, decals & overall building! Really nice. Hopefully, the new engine will drop in without a hitch.

Steve
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: lcarroll on September 18, 2016, 01:51:26 AM: Peter,
I hope the Bz.IIIa works out. Nice "catch" on your part, this really will be a unique subject. How about the radiator and cowling, are they just as cleanly removed?
Absolutely beautiful work so far, a very attractive and interesting Build.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: petero on September 18, 2016, 03:13:34 AM: Lance,

The diagonal struts from the top corners of the radiator to the engine block were quite securely superglued, because I didn't want the struts to come adrift when I remove the cowl side panels; chances are that I'll destroy them when trying to remove them. Because of that , I'll leave the radiator/cowl attached until I'm sure the new engine will fit properly. They'll be easy enough to replace with plastic or brass rod once the new engine is in place.

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: lcarroll on September 18, 2016, 03:22:18 AM: Quote from: petero on September 18, 2016, 03:13:34 AM
Lance,

The diagonal struts from the top corners of the radiator to the engine block were quite securely superglued, because I didn't want the struts to come adrift when I remove the cowl side panels; chances are that I'll destroy them when trying to remove them. Because of that , I'll leave the radiator/cowl attached until I'm sure the new engine will fit properly. They'll be easy enough to replace with plastic or brass rod once the new engine is in place.

Peter

Makes good sense to me. As the Romans did, never toss the old shield until you prove the new one works!
I'll be following to see how this develops.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: petero on September 20, 2016, 11:57:34 PM: I've been working on the floats while waiting for the new engine to arrive. The floats and struts are painted PollyScale Engine Black, and weathered with a "salty seawater" colored wash of artist's acrylics. The center turnbuckles have been glued and trimmed, but I'll wait till I mount the floats on the fuselage before tightening the lines at the floats. The rigging line is acrylic "invisible thread", colored silver with a Sharpie.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5477.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5477.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5478.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5478.jpg.html)

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on September 21, 2016, 12:12:30 AM: Very well executed Peter. I like the wooden parts. Keep up the good work
.
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: bobs_buckles on September 21, 2016, 12:24:07 AM: Lovely work, Peter!
A pleasure to behold ;)

von B
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: petero on September 23, 2016, 06:13:01 AM: The new Bz.IIIa engine arrived from NZ today, only a week after I ordered it. Great service! With my fingers crossed, I removed the cylinder halves and engine block from the sprue, held my breath, and tried them for size...

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7004-1.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7004-1.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7005-1.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7005-1.jpg.html)

It fits! ;D. In fact, it fits so well that the three locating nubs on the bottom of the engine block fit the holes for the original engine perfectly. I'll need to widen the engine bearer's slot just a tiny bit for a perfect fit, but I think I can handle that.

The pipe at the top of the rear cylinder is, I think, the coolant pipe, so it will be re-routed to the radiator. I'm not sure where I'll put it till I get the cylinder heads and details in place, but it will probably be similar to the original engine. Of course, I won't use the cylinders with the pushrods and details molded in, so it'll take me awhile to scratchbuild the various details onto the plain cylinders.

Now I'm glad I took the chance and swapped... I wouldn't have been able to sleep nights knowing the wrong engine was installed :o

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: bobs_buckles on September 23, 2016, 09:08:16 PM: I think you can handle anything!
Lovely work ;) ;) ;)

Von B
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: petero on September 25, 2016, 07:36:44 AM: The basic parts of the engine have been assembled, so I figured I'd better re-check the fit.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/e1d0fdf9-e924-4661-967d-e2820c8b622e.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/e1d0fdf9-e924-4661-967d-e2820c8b622e.jpg.html)

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7009.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7009.jpg.html)

It still fits! ;D

The slot in the engine bearer had to be widened slightly, by carefully scraping with a scalpel until the engine block fit. The propeller shaft comes out perfectly centered in the hole in the nose piece. I've scratchbuilt the trays that hold the ignition wiring, but those won't be installed yet. On the original Bz.III, the trays went between the cylinders and the pushrods, but on the IIIa, they go outside of the pushrods. I'll use 0.016" wire for the pushrods, sprayed with Alclad Steel.

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: RAGIII on September 26, 2016, 05:09:12 AM: Your engine and your fitting of it into the model look perfect!
RAGIII
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: petero on October 01, 2016, 03:40:39 AM: The new Bz.IIIa is finally complete and has been installed. It's definitely a tighter fit than the Bz.III. I had to relocate the diagonal struts from the top corners of the radiator to the engine block, as well as thinning the cowl panels where the struts go. I also added the ignition wiring and wiring tray.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5484.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5484.jpg.html)

On the starboard side, I added the oil filler pipe from the old engine, because the new engine's pipe was at the very front, and wouldn't fit.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5483.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5483.jpg.html)

The protruding radiator pipe on the top of the radiator was removed, and a section of the old engine's pipe was added at the front. I noticed that the photo of the mail plane doesn't show the cylindrical item next to the gauge in front of the windscreen, so I've removed it, and I'll put a cover plate over the hole.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5487.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5487.jpg.html)

I have a choice of two exhausts. The top one is from the new engine sprue, and the bottom one is a BarracudaCast Pfalz D.XII Late Production exhaust. The single starboard side photo of the mail plane doesn't show the exhaust well, so either one is plausible. I'll finish painting and weathering both, then decide which one looks cooler.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5488.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20DSC_5488.jpg.html)

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: petero on October 01, 2016, 06:23:23 AM: Thanks for the kind words, RB. I don't usually model subjects that need a lot of guesswork, but it seems to be a trend lately. My last build, Zoukei Mura's 1/32 Horten Ho 229, was an exercise in assumptions and plausibility too.

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: steveb on October 01, 2016, 11:43:22 AM: Cool! Super nice!

Steve
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: coyotemagic on October 02, 2016, 05:43:39 AM: Awesome work, Peter! I'm excited to see what's next!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: RAGIII on October 02, 2016, 11:15:17 PM: Quote from: coyotemagic on October 02, 2016, 05:43:39 AM
Awesome work, Peter! I'm excited to see what's next!
Cheers,
Bud

I agree with my Amigo! The wiring and exhaust are indeed awesome!
RAGIII
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: petero on October 03, 2016, 12:37:56 AM: Thanks again for your kind comments! I've just finished the canvas cover for the mail compartment. The cover is made from a piece of microfiber, actually the HGW non-laser cut W.29 seat belt set. Grommets were added with tiny punched disks of 0.005" plastic. The canvas is painted Tamiya XF-22 Gray. The one-handled wingnuts (how appropriate!) were from a Bronco German Wingnut set, sprayed with Alclad Magnesium.

First I staked the back of the cover to the hatch. Since it isn't visible when complete, I used plenty of superglue to make sure it wouldn't come apart. Fortunately, the spot where I peeled up the paint doesn't show either.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/IMG_7028.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/IMG_7028.jpg.html)

The cover was glued back against the spine with a few blobs of gel superglue, then the other wingnuts were added around the hatch sill, in #76 holes that I drilled way back before I installed the coaming.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7031.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7031.jpg.html)

It came out looking pretty plausible, so I'm happy. But if I run into any 120-year-old W.29 mechanics at a model show, I'm sure they'll correct me :o

I think that's all the modifications finished, other than choosing which exhaust stack to use. Now I can get on with the CDL and lozenge decals on the wings and elevators.

On a side note, RB, did you get the PM I sent about the Horten? It's not in my Sent list, so I'm not sure if it worked.

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: RAGIII on October 03, 2016, 12:44:17 AM: Brilliant!
RAGIII
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: Manni on October 05, 2016, 09:37:05 PM: The canvas looks great, the plane isa beautiful piece of work.
Manni
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: Juan on October 05, 2016, 11:55:21 PM: Outstanding workmanship.
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: petero on October 06, 2016, 12:12:02 AM: Thanks, everyone!

In July, I visited the National Musueum of the US Air Force, and took this photo. It shows the CDL on the bottom of the wing of a plane with dark upper surfaces, similar to the W.29's dark lozenge over CDL.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20P7200617.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20P7200617.jpg.html)

Using that as a guide, I've been practicing on one of the ailerons, and have come up with this:

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7042.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7042.jpg.html)

My technique is similar to everyone else's here.

1) The ribs were sprayed with an off-white mix, using brown as the "off" color.
2) The ribs were masked, and Testor Radome Tan acrylic was sprayed for the base CDL color.
3) Leaving the ribs masked, a Light Umber Prismacolor pencil was used to outline the ribs.
4) A draftsman's eraser and a microbrush were used to smooth and blend the pencil lines.
5) Radome Tan was thinned about 50/50 with water, and lightly sprayed over the lines to blend and tone them down. I left the lines a bit too bold so I could do the next step without them disappearing.
6) The masking was carefully removed, and Radome Tan was thinned as before, but also lightened with white, and lightly sprayed over the ribs. This gives a hint of a highlight around the ribs compared to the plain Radome Tan in between.

Lastly, I'll give it a light coat of Alclad Aqua Gloss. I'm sure Ill get better at it as I tackle the wings, but I think I'm off to a good start.

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: xmald on October 06, 2016, 04:00:24 AM: I`m catching up and I really like what you`ve done here so far. The rib tapes` outline is very accurate! Are you going to add some more post shading? Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: jeroen_R90S on October 06, 2016, 04:18:42 AM: Also catching up, and really enjoy looking at this build thread! Thanks for the inspiration! :)
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: petero on October 06, 2016, 05:57:33 AM: Quote from: xmald on October 06, 2016, 04:00:24 AM
I`m catching up and I really like what you`ve done here so far. The rib tapes` outline is very accurate! Are you going to add some more post shading? Keep up the good work!

Thanks! I'm not planning to add any additional shading, but I may add some staining on the fabric to break up the uniformity.

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: gbrivio on October 06, 2016, 07:14:57 AM: Wonderful build, every step has something surprisingly good to see.
Giuseppe
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: Des on October 06, 2016, 08:31:57 AM: Beautiful work so far Peter, the canvas cover turned out excellent and your rib shading is superb.

Des.
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: Edo on October 06, 2016, 02:56:22 PM: Hey! Yuor technique for cdl ribs on the underside is just fantastic! I think I'll steal it from you and use on my builds as well!
thank you for posting
ciao
edo
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: RAGIII on October 07, 2016, 12:11:43 PM: Very effective technique. The results look spot on!
RAGIII
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: petero on October 18, 2016, 04:18:34 AM: Thanks for all the motivating comments :). Progress was slowed slightly in the last week or so, due to getting ready for the local IPMS show on the 16th, and starting another quick build with a deadline at the end of this month. But I'm still working on the mail plane too.

Here are the wings, with the lozenge decals and the overpainted German crosses. The lozenge is done in 5 separate strips per wing, and the edges of each strip have an irritating dark border. That necessitated patching every joint, which must be why WNW supplied an extra couple of lozenge panels. In this photo, the upper wing has not been patched, and the lower one's outer joints are patched. The W.12's lower wings are each one large lozenge decal, which sounds like a lot less work.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7064.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7064.jpg.html)

Although not visible in the two extant photos of the mail plane, it's assumed the wing crosses were overpainted. I chose to use Tamiya XF-19 Sky Gray, just to add another color to the plane. It could have been either of the fuselage colors too... or any color, for all we know.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7079.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7079.jpg.html)

The lower surface of the wings has been painted, ribbed, shaded and crossed out too.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7052.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7052.jpg.html)

I've read somewhere that there was a black leading edge tape, but I don't know if I'll attempt that or not.

Finally, I couldn't resist slipping the wings onto the spars... strictly for a fit test, of course!

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7080.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7080.jpg.html)

Man, that's got huge wings! Presumably the wing area is the same as both wings of the W.12 combined, or more, since the W.29 was larger and heavier.

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: eclarson on October 18, 2016, 05:01:56 AM: Quote from: petero on October 18, 2016, 04:18:34 AM
....
Man, that's got huge wings! Presumably the wing area is the same as both wings of the W.29 combined, or more, since the W.29 was larger and heavier.

Peter

Don't you mean "... both wings of the W.12 combined ..."? :)

Eric
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: petero on October 18, 2016, 05:33:22 AM: Quote from: eclarson on October 18, 2016, 05:01:56 AM

Don't you mean "... both wings of the W.12 combined ..."? :)

Eric

Sure do, Eric, and I've changed it.

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: Juan on October 18, 2016, 09:09:49 AM: Wow, fantastic work. Keep pushing, the end (of this aircraft) is near.
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: RAGIII on October 18, 2016, 11:37:12 PM: Looks great with the wings sitting in place! You are getting close now to the finish line!
RAGIII
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: petero on October 29, 2016, 06:36:48 AM: I've attached the floats and tightened the float rigging.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7160.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7160.jpg.html)

The wings' lozenge decals have turned out to be a problem. By the time I had finished doing shading along the ribs, there were many un-stuck areas, both along the ribs and in between. It's only the wings; the ailerons, elevators, horizontal stabilizer and fuselage spine are fine. One wing is affected worse than the other, even though I decaled them at the same time. I've been pricking and slitting the delaminated spots, and using Gunze Mr. Mark Setter and Softer to help them adhere again. I'm not sure if I'll be able to fix them well enough, so I've already contacted Dave about purchasing another sheet of lozenges. It would be a huge effort to strip the decals and start over, but better that than worrying about them coming off sometime down the road.

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: Juan on October 29, 2016, 08:53:04 AM: Wow Peter, that is looking good. Sorry to hear about the wings, but you are right, better now than latter. Hang tough, your workmanship shows.
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: RAGIII on October 31, 2016, 04:21:37 AM: Looks terrific. I am alxo sorry to hear about the wing lozenge. I am sure you will get that sorted out soon!
RAGIII
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: petero on November 01, 2016, 04:25:43 AM: I've managed to fix my decal delaminating problem. It took a few hours of pricking and slicing problem spots and sticking them back down with Mr. Mark Setter. Unlike most decal solutions, Setter contains an adhesive, so it not only helps the decal conform, but it actually sticks it to the surface. There are still some spots that could look better, but I have no desire to strip the entire wings and start from scratch! :o. The final matte coat helps hide the nasty spots too.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7164.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7164.jpg.html)

The shading around the ribs didn't come out evenly from wing to wing, but that's okay. I also gently airbrushed some thinned cross color over the crosses' ribs to tone down the effect there.

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: petero on November 01, 2016, 06:06:09 AM: Quote from: The Red Baron on November 01, 2016, 05:04:22 AM
They look pretty good to my eye :)

Thanks! That's because you're more than 3 feet away ;)

Did you receive my PM about the Z-M Ho 229 back when I mentioned it? It doesn't show in my Sent items.

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: coyotemagic on November 01, 2016, 06:57:03 AM: Everything looks fantastic, Peter. This is going to be a very special W.29.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: RAGIII on November 01, 2016, 08:32:11 AM: Quote from: coyotemagic on November 01, 2016, 06:57:03 AM
Everything looks fantastic, Peter. This is going to be a very special W.29.
Cheers,
Bud

I agree with Bud!
RAGIII
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: petero on November 02, 2016, 08:51:33 AM: Thanks, guys!

I'm almost there now. The wings have been finished, and they and the elevators and rudder have been attached and rigged.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7168-1.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7168-1.jpg.html)

The clear flat on the wings' lozenge hides a multitude of sins ;)

All that's left now are the outboard float struts, airspeed indicator (from GasPatch), prop, exhaust and beaching gear. I'll use the straight-bladed Axial prop, since that's what the photo most closely resembles.

I'm quite pleased with my efforts so far... back in July when I started, I gave myself about a 50/50 chance of finishing it. Now I have to finish it - it takes up my whole workbench! I'm also considering getting a case for it, since it's too large to fit into any of my glass-front bookcases.

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: petero on November 10, 2016, 05:22:43 AM: The last details are coming together now:

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7171.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7171.jpg.html)

The exhaust is from the new engine's sprue. The BarracudaCast exhaust looked more interesting to me, but I liked the finish on this one better.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7195-1.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7195-1.jpg.html)

The anemometer is from GasPatch, with a new stanchion added. The prop is the kit's Axial prop, since that's what the photos looked like. Axial props tended to be a solid color. The tips are Alclad Polished Brass, and the hubs are Steel.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7185-1.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7185-1.jpg.html)

Here is the short trestle that goes under the front of a float. It was painted with Tamiya Deck Tan, then given washes of various gray and umber artist's acrylics. The goal was to give it a fairly beat-up and neglected look. The tall trestle and beaching dollies were similarly treated.

And finally, she's done! I've just glued the beaching dollies to the floats with Gator's Grip glue.

(http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/petero380/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7198.jpg) (http://s999.photobucket.com/user/petero380/media/WNW%20W29/pb%20IMG_7198.jpg.html)

Once those have dried, I'll take some good photos and start a thread in the completed models section. Thanks for watching and commenting on the build - it was great fun, and I learned a lot of new techniques for the next one.

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: RAGIII on November 10, 2016, 06:57:36 AM: Outstanding results and a great build log! I am looking forward to the final photos
RAGIII
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: petero on November 12, 2016, 10:28:44 AM: I've just posted some finished photos in the Completed Models forum: http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=7877.0 (http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=7877.0)

Thanks for following along, and for all your comments!

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: pilot49 on August 08, 2018, 07:37:51 PM: Hello my friend!!! You made a very nice work!! May I ask something about the rigging on floats; Where did you find this detail, because I have never seen any photo or any detail about this way of rigging on floats? I would appreciate if you send me any photo, because I have on the bench my W.29 Hansa and also have done a simple rigging on floats!! Thank you for your time!!

Nickolas
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: petero on August 08, 2018, 11:28:25 PM: Thanks for your comments, Nickolas! There was a thread on this forum specifically about W.29 float rigging, which I referenced in the first post about the rigging. However, that post is no longer available, and I didn't copy the photos in that thread, so I no longer have the information.

The missing thread showed a few contemporary photos of the float rigging, with the circular attachment point and turnbuckles in the center.

Sorry I can't be more helpful.

Peter
Title: Re: My first WW1 build - WNW Hansa-Brandenburg W.29
Post by: Manni on August 09, 2018, 05:17:32 PM: Beautiful work, Peter. Great engine and modifications.
Bye,
Manni