Very nice of you all to reply. I have been studying this site since I found it, and yes by God it's full of great tips, and tons of information but I do love a good reference book .iThe Wing Nuts book appears to be exactly what I'm looking for, (thanks Nige!) unfortunately it's sold out, , and I haven't been able to locate a used copy. If anyone knows how I can lay hands on one please give me a shout. Once again guys thanks for pointing me in the right direction , I really appreciate it...