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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: coyotemagic on August 21, 2013, 05:12:46 AM
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Yes, I know, the Halberstadts aren't finished yet. I'm suffering from a mild case of lozenge burn-out, so to prevent total loss of mojo, I've decided to do something fairly simple on the side. I love the red and white markings of the Kriegsmarine and have wanted to do a Phonix D.I for quite a while, so here she is. I have both the Special Hobby and the Blue Max kits and after examining the contents of both boxes, settled on the Blue Max which has a better cockpit representation than the SH and a much more accurate Hiero engine. This aircraft began it's life as A.100 and originally had it's fuselage done in factory applied brown mottle, according to photos in the DF. However, it crashed at least once before being designated J.4 and, since the Blue Max instructions indicate she could have had a dark varnished or brown mottle fuselage, I may just go with dark stained wood and natural metal panels. Not sure yet.
Here are the engine bits before assembly.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01683_zps3a4429ee.jpg)
Somewhat crude, but better than the Special Hobby engine and it cleans up okay.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01687_zps2ed99d4b.jpg)
As you can see, I wrapped the induction manifold as in the original.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01685_zpsdbfad0fa.jpg)
A quick test fit of the engine in the fuselage revealed that any additional detailing (carburetors, linkages and ignition harness) would be a waste of time and since this is supposed to be an easy, relaxing break, I decided to pass.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01686_zps3e16611a.jpg)
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As with most limited run kits, there are no locating pins on the fuselage halves, so I decided to add some just to make fuselage closure just a bit easier.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01679_zps69a6678a.jpg)
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/003_zpsfd210496.jpg)
Got the prop finished, as well.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01695_zps72eed60f.jpg)
I'm working at a feverish pace on this one, so I should have more photos up soon.
Cheers,
Bud
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Very nice, the prop is gorgeous!
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Coming along nicely Bud,
Although seeing those kits does make you realise how far the hobby's come along with the advent of Wingnuts.. But it's nice to make a model once in a while with a low parts count!
Looking forward to updates..
Guy
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With your talent, Bud, this is sure to turn out a beauty. I really like
the prop...very pleasing to the eye. Looking forward to more on this
build.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Now this i am liking, fantastic start and that prop is simply glorious ;-)
Martin.
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Bud,
terrific start on what I am sure will be your usual Stunning work! As others have said the prop is gorgeous!
RAGIII
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Thanks so much, guys! I really appreciate the encouragement, not that I need encouragement with this one. It's such a fun and easy build, it's just taken on a life of it's own. I only break to post while something's drying and things dry fast in this heat.
For comparison purposes, here's a shot of the Special Hobby engine.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01712_zps19efc0f3.jpg)
I think I made the right choice.
I usually draw my prop laminations with pencils, but I masked and painted this one.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01713_zps9c22f490.jpg)
Thanks to the heat, I've gotten a lot of cockpit work done. My water based oils are drying in a matter of hours, instead of days. I fabricated the pilot's seat cushion from Citidel Green Stuff.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01703_zps011cf01c.jpg)
Then painted it Tamiya light sand, followed by a coat of Tamiya red-brown. I then lightly sanded it until enough tan came through to give it a worn look. I followed that with a wash of brown and black water colors.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01706_zpse4493cfd.jpg)
Added triggers and cables to the control column while waiting for the cockpit sides to dry.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01704_zps606e064d.jpg)
My bride still isn't back from work, so I'll forge on and hopefully have more photos tomorrow.
Cheers,
Bud
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Bud,
You weren't kidding about that Light Speed Stuff! Your Stick and Seat are AWESOME!
RAGIII
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Great progress, all of which looks outstanding, loving that seat cushion, nice work.
Martin.
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Lovely start, Bud! Phonix with red-white-red markings will certainly be a striking model. I presume it is 48th scale, isn't it? Anyway - very fine detailing. Looking forward to see more.
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A good start !!!
I look forward to a continuation :)
Jacek
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A great start Bud, the seat, propeller and control column look excellent, I really like the seat cushion. Looking forward to seeing more updates.
Des.
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Nice work. Great choice of subject too. All of the individual components you have completed look super. Thanks for the comparison photos of the engines. We need a good aftermarket Hiero for sure.
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Bud that is such good work. And so fast! Amazing. You did a super job on the
seat. I was wondering...the water-based oils...are they as good as the oily ones?
Is there a difference in the drying time? That's the pain for me, waiting for the oils
to dry.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Thank you, gentlemen! I may have the cockpit wrapped up today. I'm struggling with instrumentation. I've seen one photo posted on the 'drome showing an actual instrument panel, but there was no pilot access to the guns. The best collection of photos I've seen are here: http://www.wwi-models.org/Photos/AH/Pho_DIII/index.html but these are for a D.III. I think this is the way I will go.
Yes, Prez, she's 1/48 scale. Basically, an enlarged version of the Pegasus kit.
Ernie, for our purposes, I find that the Windsor Newton water based line dries much faster, yet still gives me some working time. All that I use them for are washes, wood grain and mottle camo. I suppose actual canvas and oils artists prefer the other, but these are fine for me.
Cheers,
Bud
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Lovely work, looking forward to seeing those A-H colours.
And just in case any manufacturers are reading this, totally agree with Rob Hart about wanting to see an aftermarket Hiero (in 32 please :)
Mark
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Thanks, Mark! I, too, wish someone would do a decent after market Hiero in all scales. I did a little research and not even Engines and Things, who did damn near every other engine under the sun, did one. We also need a good resin RAF4a. Just sayin'.
Cheers,
Bud
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Thanks for the info, Bud. Looking forward to your next update with the
Phonix.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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a man after my heart with an a-h build, love the phonix scouts. just a progression of the h.b. d.1. i think the protoype and first series had a hb fuselage. and of course phonix licence built the hb. d1 so this was an easy progression for them. i agree that the blue max kit is a touch better than the s.h. one should be a lovely kite with the cream,white and red wings.
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Great start to an interesting bird. Do the water based oils perform pretty much the same as the standard oils?
Steve
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I've finished the cockpit and I'm about to close her up. Every thing on the starboard side is scratched. On the port side, a throttle control lever and linkage was added, as well as a pair of gauges. A pair of Schwarzlose and their support bar were added. Seat belts are from the Eduard Oeffag 253.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01707_zpsaca92008.jpg)
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01708_zps8c0c13ec.jpg)
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01710_zps28d1914d.jpg)
a man after my heart with an a-h build, love the phonix scouts. just a progression of the h.b. d.1. i think the protoype and first series had a hb fuselage. and of course phonix licence built the hb. d1 so this was an easy progression for them. i agree that the blue max kit is a touch better than the s.h. one should be a lovely kite with the cream,white and red wings.
Thanks, Scott. I'm planning on using the SH parts to build one of the many H.B. and Phonix prototypes the led up to the Phonix D.I. The book on AH Army aircraft has a ton of excellent 1/48 scale drawings making a project like that very tempting.
Great start to an interesting bird. Do the water based oils perform pretty much the same as the standard oils?
Steve
Thanks, Steve. On canvas, they may behave differently, but on plastic they're about the same. I think they are actually easier to use.
Cheers,
Bud
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Bud,
Awesome progress my old friend. Beautifully done interior wood work. Keep up the excellent progress.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Bud -
How the hell did I miss this one?!
Excellent work on engine, cockpit and prop. In addition, your rendition of 'wood ' is spot on, mate.
I'll make sure to keep up to date on your progress from now on.
Regards
Dave
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Thanks, fellas! I appreciate having you guys follow along.
Cheers,
Bud
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Bud, Beautiful wood work and scratch building on the interior! You are certainly moving right along as promised!
RAGIII
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Bud, Beautiful wood work and scratch building on the interior! You are certainly moving right along as promised!
RAGIII
Thanks, Rick! I am moving right along. One of the benefits of semi-retirement.
Got the wings almost finished. To create the impression of translucency, I painted the top wing crosses on the underside and blurred them with pastels. To add depth, I then over-sprayed them with primer, then painted the spars and over-painted them.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01714_zps85a0c73e.jpg)
I then added the ribs with brown pencil. I chose brown for this instead of black because the ribs actually touch the fabric and the color would be slightly more apparent. I was in a hurry and was a bit sloppy but didn't care since they would also be over-painted.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01715_zps17900ab8.jpg)
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01716_zpsb8933d26.jpg)
I did the opposite on the upper surfaces of the wings, masking the ribs and preshading them with pastels.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01723_zpsd2622fbe.jpg)
Thanks for dropping by.
Cheers,
Bud
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Very nice Bud, I think we'll have to rename you the "Shademiester"! I use your post shading technique almost exclusively, many Thanks for the mentoring. Brilliant work on the under wing cross impressions as well. Another winner in the making.
Cheers,
Lance :)
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Beautiful work Bud, the cockpit interior looks excellent and your shading is superb, you certainly are a master at this technique.
Des.
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Goodness me Bud,
That's a cracker! Seriously good..
Really great detail in that scale. Enjoying this ;)
Guy
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Gad bud, your woodgrain looks like...well, wood. Beautiful!
Your wing shading is great. Thanks so much for the mini-tutorial.
As for semi-retirement, I'm just fully-retired and seem to have less
time than before for my models ::)...my better half's "honey-do" list gets
longer all the time. ;D Looking forward to your next update.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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The prop it's looking great and so does your wood grain effect and engine, along with a very nice detail.
Cheers
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Thank you all so much. The shading technique is not mine. I picked it up from Brad Cancian and a few others way back on the 'drome, so they are the masters.
Ernie, we're in a brand new house, so the honey-do list is relatively short. What's left to be done, an irrigation system and sod in the back, had to be put off until cooler weather. This heat would kill newly laid sod (and probably me, too!). So, I've had plenty of time to work on this one.
The fuselage is pretty much finished. Now, I have to decide whether or not to do the splotchy brown camo.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01725_zps8e5d6f63.jpg)
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01724_zps4756c77a.jpg)
Cheers,
Bud
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Hi Bud,
Excelent wood. Bravo.
Cheers,
Vladimir
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Geeze, somehow I missed the wing shading update -- very convincing, well done. Fuselage looks amazing too. Bravo!
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Bud,
Beautiful shading on the wings, and the fuselage wood is STUNNING to say the least!
RAGIII
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Truly superb, Bud -
Your fuselage really does look like real wood - very impressive.
Regards
Dave
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Superb work on this Bud, very inspiring I have to say, especially the shading technique and indeed the woodgrain.
Martin.
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Absolutely splendid wood, Bud. My personal view is that it would be a pity to cover it with a camo!
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Beautiful result with the wood on the fuselage Bud, looking fantastic.
Des.
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Bud,
Now that's just beautiful wood my old friend. Outstanding project!
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Just catching up here. Amazing work. The wing shading/translucency and wood grain effect are spot on. Thanks for the explanation on the process. This looks to be another winner!!!!
Steve
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Impressive... the wood is fantastic and the shading on the wings is a masterpiece...
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Again, thank you so much for your kindness, gentlemen. On the recommendation from my esteemed colleague from Poland, I'm leaving the fuselage uncamouflaged. I hope this doesn't offend the purists among us too much.
All of the major components are now painted, decaled and weathered. Drilling the holes for rigging, now. I'll be using Gaspatch turnbuckles for the first time. Should be fun.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01731_zps283d1a95.jpg)
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01730_zpsca12baaa.jpg)
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01728_zps2ad32f10.jpg)
Cheers,
Bud
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In a word, STUNNING!
RAGIII
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Very impressive Bud, once assembled she is going to be a very attractive bird indeed, well done.
Des.
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Wonderful work, Bud. I think it will look stunning without the camoflage, but then
I've never been too much of a "purist". I'm looking forward to more photos, and
your thoughts after using the Gaspatch turnbuckles.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Thank you, Rick, Des and Ernie! Test fitting the turnbuckles and they look great. I just hope the stay put when I apply a little tension.
Cheers,
Bud
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Very nicely see the details of the wing structure. Well done!
Jacek
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Thanks so much, guys! I really appreciate the encouragement, not that I need encouragement with this one. It's such a fun and easy build, it's just taken on a life of it's own. I only break to post while something's drying and things dry fast in this heat.
For comparison purposes, here's a shot of the Special Hobby engine.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01712_zps19efc0f3.jpg)
I think I made the right choice.
I usually draw my prop laminations with pencils, but I masked and painted this one.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01713_zps9c22f490.jpg)
Thanks to the heat, I've gotten a lot of cockpit work done. My water based oils are drying in a matter of hours, instead of days. I fabricated the pilot's seat cushion from Citidel Green Stuff.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01703_zps011cf01c.jpg)
Then painted it Tamiya light sand, followed by a coat of Tamiya red-brown. I then lightly sanded it until enough tan came through to give it a worn look. I followed that with a wash of brown and black water colors.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01706_zpse4493cfd.jpg)
Added triggers and cables to the control column while waiting for the cockpit sides to dry.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01704_zps606e064d.jpg)
My bride still isn't back from work, so I'll forge on and hopefully have more photos tomorrow.
Cheers,
Bud
Hi Bud,
The propeller looks very realistic! The colours are very convincing and it looks absolutely fantastic masked and painted. I tend to build in much larger scales, and use real timber, but producing such a realistic propeller from a painted plastic propeller in a relatively small scale is a very commendable effort.
Regards,
David.
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Very nicely see the details of the wing structure. Well done!
Jacek
Thank you, Jacek. I've been working on this technique for a while and, although I'm not fully satisfied, it's getting better.
Cheers,
Bud
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Hi Bud,
The propeller looks very realistic! The colours are very convincing and it looks absolutely fantastic masked and painted. I tend to build in much larger scales, and use real timber, but producing such a realistic propeller from a painted plastic propeller in a relatively small scale is a very commendable effort.
Regards,
David.
Thanks, David! I think that in 1/48 scale and smaller, a well painted prop looks more to scale than a hand carved wooden prop. I have a couple Marty Digmayer props, and although they are very nice, they don't seem quite true to scale, at least to my eye. I believe that getting the right veneer thickness and an extremely fine grain in the smaller scales is really difficult. I love the look of a real wooden prop and I hope Doug Craner or some other miniature prop artist will someday produce a 1/48 scale prop as convincing and beautiful as Doug's 1/32 scale gems.
Cheers,
Bud
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You're very welcome Bud!
You are probably right. Even at 1:8 scale the grain was a major consideration when I built the replica Axial propeller. I was very happy with the Mahogany but I substituted European Ash for Australian Ash, since the grain in European or American Ash would have been far too large in any scale.
You have achieved a very convincing result! I have thought about building 1:32 scale propellers, but now that I know that Doug, and probably others build them in the smaller scales I will leave them to it. Hopefully someone will make propellers in 1:48th scale, but it's probably the small size that is the reason it has not been done. I would consider having a go at 1:48th scale, but I would only do it if no one else was willing to do it. The larger scales are difficult enough.
You are absolutely right. Apart from the grain it is very important to get the lamination thickness correct. Such relatively minor details can make the difference between a realistic replica propeller and one which is not as convincing.
Regards,
David.
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Very impressive work, Bud -
Rib shading on the wings looks the part. I agree with others regarding painting the fuselage - wood effect looks far to good to be painted over!
Regards
Dave
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Gorgeous!
I enjoy the weathering and the rib shading very much.
Cheers
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You're very welcome Bud!
You are probably right. Even at 1:8 scale the grain was a major consideration when I built the replica Axial propeller. I was very happy with the Mahogany but I substituted European Ash for Australian Ash, since the grain in European or American Ash would have been far too large in any scale.
You have achieved a very convincing result! I have thought about building 1:32 scale propellers, but now that I know that Doug, and probably others build them in the smaller scales I will leave them to it. Hopefully someone will make propellers in 1:48th scale, but it's probably the small size that is the reason it has not been done. I would consider having a go at 1:48th scale, but I would only do it if no one else was willing to do it. The larger scales are difficult enough.
You are absolutely right. Apart from the grain it is very important to get the lamination thickness correct. Such relatively minor details can make the difference between a realistic replica propeller and one which is not as convincing.
Regards,
David.
Well, David, if you ever feel like taking a shot at 1/48 scale, let me know. I'll be your first customer!
Cheers,
Bud
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Very impressive work, Bud -
Rib shading on the wings looks the part. I agree with others regarding painting the fuselage - wood effect looks far to good to be painted over!
Regards
Dave
Thanks, Dave! I kinda like the looks of it, myself.
Cheers,
Bud
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Gorgeous!
I enjoy the weathering and the rib shading very much.
Cheers
Thanks, Paulo! I'm very pleased that you like it.
Cheers,
Bud
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man bud shes looking sweet, your airforce is getting pretty big.
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Thanks, Scott! Yeah, this one will make 28. My Central Powers flight is finally catching up to Allies.
Got her rigged and I'm pretty excited. It's been 9 months since I was this far along on a build. I used the Gaspatch turnbuckles for the first time and, although I screwed the pooch this time around, next time I'll know how to line them up properly.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01813_zpse26c83e3.jpg)
Cheers,
Bud
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Great stuff, Bud -
Starting to look like a plane now and getting close to finishing.
Regards
Dave
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Very great job! such a good idea to choose Kriegsmarine scheme, not usual!
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Bud, the rigging looks excellent to me! I am wondering how the Gaspatch turnbuckles are anchored?
RAGIII
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Looks great Bud. Tell us more about lining up dem gaspatch turnbuckles pls
Cheers
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Hi Bud,
I'm sorry that I missed your build from the start, but now I'm catching up. I think it's fabulous. I like it all, your woodwork, cockpit, pilots chair, colors, rigging. In one word one of the most beautifull builds I've seen till now. Congratulations!
Patrick
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She's really looking a treat now, Bud. Great job on the rigging. Could you give
us a close-up of the turnbuckles? From what I could make out, they look super.
Thanks for the update...looking forward to the next ones.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Bud,
Wow your Phonix is sure looking grand my old friend. I love your rigging and I'm very impressed with those turnbuckles too. Looking forward to seeing more.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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What a fantastic build Bud,
sorry just caught up with this one and I have learnt so much from your mini tutorials.
Thank you for sharing this with us, I will be keeping well in touch with this from now.
kind regards
mark
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Hi Bud:
It's neat to see this here after seeing the actual model on your bench. Looking forward to seeing you wrap it up. After seeing your collection, I am seriously thinking of delving into 1/48th. They all beckon!
Best
Mark
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Awsome Bud, Just Awesome
Cheers
Dave
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Bud, that's really brilliant, mate. From the finish of the fuselage to the way you've done the wings, it's outstanding.
The Phönix is one of the aircraft that really caught my attention as I started to learn more about the aircraft of WWI. I do hope someone kits it in 1/32.
Cheers.
Dal.
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Thanks so much for your overly kind words, especially you, Patrick! Sorry it took so long to respond, but I was scrambling to finish this one so I could start a team group build on another site.
Rick and Bo, here's a shot of one of the turnbuckles. To install them, you drill a small hole, about a #80, at an angle corresponding to the line to which it will be attached. That's where I screwed up. I just sort of guesstimated and guessed wrong. I'm used to the eyelet/brass tubing method, which gives you a lot of wiggle room. These are not so forgiving. Once in place, they will either bend, snap off or pull out if you try to straighten them. Next time, I'll plot the angles more carefully with either an angle jig or a stiff wire, probably the latter.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/DSC01814_zps22ec2134.jpg)
Here, she's basically finished. All that remains is the undercarriage bungees. You can see them dangling from the axle.
(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af342/coyotemagic_photos/Phonix%20DI/PhonixDI007_zps521ac5e0.jpg)
More photos in the completed models section.
Dal, I'd love to see the Phonix D.I or D.II kitted in 1/32 scale. Lots of attractive schemes.
Cheers,
Bud
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Bud thanks for the headsup on the GP turnbuckles...
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You're most welcome, sir! The 1/32 scale variety are much more detailed and easier to use.
Cheers,
Bud
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Bud, did you rig this with EZ line? I prolly missed it. I like the idea of a stiff wire to plot pre-drilling. I'm thinking that also requires a major tape-together-pre-fit in order to establish the lines and angles. also what did you use for the crimps in the rigging ends?
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Great stuff Bud! As usual.
Rock on!
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Looking forward to a full walk around of the completed machine.
Steve
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Bud, did you rig this with EZ line? I prolly missed it. I like the idea of a stiff wire to plot pre-drilling. I'm thinking that also requires a major tape-together-pre-fit in order to establish the lines and angles. also what did you use for the crimps in the rigging ends?
On this one I used smoke colored invisithread from the local fabric shop. To bind the ends, I use polyimide tubing. http://www.amazonsupply.com/translucent-amber-miniature-polyimide-tubing/dp/B003TLNL5I/ref=sr_1_1?sr=1-1&qid=1359148509&filterBy.feature_seven_browse-bin=5485625011#sortBy=gauge_string&sortByD=asc&showAll=true&enableAjaxForVariation=true&asin=B003TLNL5I&ref_=sp_dp_sall_2&ajaxHash=true
Pricey, but nice.
Cheers,
Bud
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Great stuff Bud! As usual.
Rock on!
Looking forward to a full walk around of the completed machine.
Steve
Thanks, Alex and Steve! The finished job is here:
http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=2437.new;topicseen#new
Cheers,
Bud