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Title: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W29
Post by: chris_jephcott on January 13, 2017, 01:21:03 AM
Hello everybody,

Now that I've got myself comfortable in here, I figured it was time that I shared the work I've been doing on the Wingnut Wings W29. So starting off, the usual bit of background: this is my first serious WW1 aircraft kit. I love Wingnut Wings kits (as do most on here I guess!) and I've managed to collect them all over the course of the last 5 years or so - although I'm still missing a Duallist boxing or two, this kit comes from the Duallist box that includes the W29 and the Early Felixstowe. Despite my model making friends egging me on to try the Felixstowe (yeah, right?!), this kit almost fell into my hands. I already have the separate W29 and it made a lot of sense for me to start making these kits by doing one that I have a duplicate of. As you can expect, it has been a learning curve and I'm still learning a lot. So please... please... please! Help me. Any help, criticism, pointers, discussion items, if I've done it wrong or whatever, please tell me. I must stress that I'm on a very steep learning curve and I'm constantly looking to improve the look of parts and sub assemblies.

Anyway, with that done... I'll post the photos and a brief description. As I said, I'm not so much looking for perfection on this build - good enough will do!

So...

I started this build by assembling the engine. It's painted in Alclad Aluminium primarily, with Tamiya flat black cylinders and various details painted in Steel. I've not gone to town on the scratchbuilding on this - I added the wiring retainer and various bits of wire to bring the engine to life a bit more. The chances are that I'll probably end up having the cowling removable on one side only. Weathered using various powders, and washes. When I thought I'd done a bit too much, I simply resprayed a very low pressure alclad over the top, which made a nice thin line, and muted down the weathering:

(https://bobblepic.com/images/2017/01/12/IMG_9350c4857.jpg)

I then started work on the cockpit area. The wood effect is the usual Tamiya Deck Tan sprayed down first and then Artists oils applied over the top. I noted from various other builds that the wood in the cockpit area of the W29 was a beautiful mahogany style colour, so to achieve this, I used Burnt Umber and Burnt Sienna colours. I randomly applied them in "splodges" (technical term!) and then using a sponge, dragged it out and blended it. When it was blended, I attacked it with the old flat brush and dragged to get the grain effect. Personally, I'm happy with the result of this. I didn't use any Clear Orange or Yellow and simply sprayed Alclad Semi-Matt varnish on top, to seal in the work. The Fuel Tank and seats were painted with Gunze and Tamiya paints. Weathering was the same as the engine - I initially always do too much, and then mute it back with a thin layer of paint:

(https://bobblepic.com/images/2017/01/12/IMG_9387.jpg)

The cockpit area was built up pretty quickly once the artists oils had dried:

(https://bobblepic.com/images/2017/01/12/50481733918__2A8A5DFF-FFC5-400F-BF22-29803839CCA2.jpg)

(https://bobblepic.com/images/2017/01/12/IMG_9468ff5ff.jpg)

I then zipped it up and did some dry fitting just to see how it looks:

(https://bobblepic.com/images/2017/01/12/IMG_94993c4da.jpg)

(https://bobblepic.com/images/2017/01/12/IMG_9501884e2.jpg)

Although this isn't as high tech as some rigging that I've seen on the website, I decided to opt for a simple rigging inside the cockpit. This is simply just monofilament fishing line with a thin piece of Brass tube attached. I also made a little snip in the side of the boxes to run the cables through and also created a slot on the top line to feed the cable through.

(https://bobblepic.com/images/2017/01/12/IMG_95005f083.jpg)

A bit more dry fitting and the cockpit combings were added and sanded down. Now this was one area when I found the fit to be a little snug. It's probably due to the paint layers building up, and after a bit of sanding and resanding, I finally got these into the correct place and glued in. A small dab of filler was needed - although I am sure that this is my doing and not the kit!

(https://bobblepic.com/images/2017/01/12/IMG_9546.jpg)


Then I glued on the tailplane - and dry fitted the top of the wings, just to get an idea of the size! I couldn't help myself...

(https://bobblepic.com/images/2017/01/12/IMG_9553fbf66.jpg)

And that's where I'm up to now... Really enjoying this build, it's interesting, different and challenging. Everything that a good build should be.

Thanks for reading!!

Chris
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W29
Post by: Juan on January 13, 2017, 02:07:34 AM
Hi Chris, very nicely done.  Others with better eyesight might find something to help you achieve a better look, but I cannot find anything to add to your build.  Great start, looking forward to your progress.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W29
Post by: lone modeller on January 13, 2017, 03:52:21 AM
An excellent start. You are clearly no novice when it comes to modelling as your pictures show. Looking forward to following this one - I can see a first class model in the making here.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W29
Post by: Des on January 13, 2017, 06:03:32 AM
You are making excellent progress with this kit Chris, the engine turned out very well and the fuselage interior is superb, you has used a great choice of wood colours and all the internal details are perfectly painted, the instrument panel looks great. One very important aspect of Wingnut kits is their very close tolerances, all traces of paint have to be removed from any mating surfaces or issues will arise. Looking forward to following along with this awesome build.

Des.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W29
Post by: Gisbod on January 13, 2017, 06:48:06 AM
Nice start Chris,

You look on the right track already... ;) keep us posted.

Guy

Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W29
Post by: chris_jephcott on January 13, 2017, 07:24:40 AM
Thank you very much to everyone for your kind comments and encouragement!

I'm hoping that I can do the kit the justice it deserves.

So... quick question time. I normally use gunze paints for the external works and found an ok match for the German Naval Blue/Grey in the form of 307/308 (I think... in bed at the moment as I'm an early tomorrow). How about the underside though? I'm planning on using the same colour but with a mix of off white in it in order to match this up? Would that sound about right?

Many thanks again for all your comments... I really appreciate them.

Chris
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W29
Post by: Des on January 13, 2017, 08:00:44 AM
For the underside side of the fuselage and tail plane I painted them using Humbrol No.65 Aircraft Blue, it is a matt paint.

For the underside of the wings I used Gunze H318 Radome, probably not the exact colour but it looks pretty good, full build log here if you are interested;

http://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/page24.html

Des.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W29
Post by: Manni on January 13, 2017, 04:26:39 PM
Hello Chris,
great start or better great build, everything looks very,very good so I can't give you any hint to improve something.
Manni
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W29
Post by: RAGIII on January 13, 2017, 10:10:51 PM
Great start Chris! The darker wood tones are harder to pull off and you have done an admirable job! Looking terrific to date.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W29
Post by: steveb on January 14, 2017, 12:55:57 PM
Wow, really nice!

Steve
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W29
Post by: lcarroll on January 15, 2017, 12:57:58 AM
Chris,
    I've been quietly watching your Build here while working on my (similar) W.12 Kit; you are producing a real winner and, as Steven pointed out a few posts back, are certainly no novice at the modelling bench! Are you going to use the Kit Decals for the "Hex" or has the "Aviattic Fever" struck you?! Either or, you have a real winner in the making here, welcome again to the Forum!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W29
Post by: chris_jephcott on January 15, 2017, 01:57:34 AM
Des - thank you very much for the information. When time allows, I'll have a little spray down with some other colour just to add a bit of interest to the uniform paint coat for the top sides. Really appreciate the information for the underside colour. Assuming Humbrol 65, I believe a decent match will be akin to RLM65. It'll be muted down a bit though on a second coat. Your build is really superb Des - if I can make this one turn out half as well as yours, it'll be a great success!

So thank you very much to everybody. I've sprayed on a bit of paint over the last couple of days, but run out of time a bit. In the next week or so though, I'll hopefully be able to provide some photos of the fuselage - at least when I'm happy with the paint!!

So thanks for your comments so far everybody... Really looking forward to the next stage in this build now - painting the fuselage properly!

Chris
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W29
Post by: dr 1 ace on January 15, 2017, 04:27:53 AM
Welcome to the Forum and really nice work ! await more...

Ed
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W29
Post by: chris_jephcott on January 19, 2017, 04:44:11 AM
So... a quick update now as to where I am. Apologies again - the photos aren't the best quality, but I will address this in the future!

I've been busy painting the W29. The paints I've been using so far are mainly Gunze - 307 and 308, which give a nice glossy texture and a very gentle bluish tinge, and Tamiya XF83 - which is what the instructions actually call for. Between the three colours here, I've been able to mix and change around a bit, and added a very subtle post shade, in order to make it look a little bit more realistic:

(https://bobblepic.com/images/2017/01/18/IMG_9561.md.jpg) (https://bobblepic.com/image/V8JOq)

I then added the Hexagonal decals around the tail and rear fuselage. These generally went on very well, a small application of microsol and a trim down using a new Swann-Morton blade as required though in order to make them conform to the shape of the tailplane:

(https://bobblepic.com/images/2017/01/18/IMG_9595.md.jpg) (https://bobblepic.com/image/V8kVp)

(https://bobblepic.com/images/2017/01/18/IMG_9599.md.jpg) (https://bobblepic.com/image/V8iyS)

A brief play about with some weathering powder, and this is how it's ended up:

(https://bobblepic.com/images/2017/01/18/IMG_9596.md.jpg) (https://bobblepic.com/image/V8e3d)

(https://bobblepic.com/images/2017/01/18/IMG_9594.md.jpg) (https://bobblepic.com/image/V8MII)

(https://bobblepic.com/images/2017/01/18/IMG_9598.md.jpg) (https://bobblepic.com/image/V8Xds)

The wings are in fact still dry fitted at the moment, and I know that the powder looks a little heavy as it stands - I'll be muting this down tomorrow if I get 10 mins in the man cave, then hopefully applying the rest of the fuselage markings. Then a gloss coat to seal in the work, and then onto various finishing techniques, including making the combings and cowling gloss.

Coming next will be the cowling, the wings and rudder. But as again, I'm really enjoying building this kit... It's a cut above anything I've ever tried to make before!

Thanks for looking,

Chris
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W29
Post by: RAGIII on January 20, 2017, 12:07:46 AM
Chris,
Your painting and weathering are looking fantastic to my eyes! The lozenge application is very well done!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W29
Post by: chris_jephcott on January 28, 2017, 11:54:17 PM
It's been a good few days since I posted anything on here, however, work has been progressing. I've spent the last week really doing jobs around the house, but in my spare time I've managed to get the underside of the wings completed. So, here's a little bit more detail as to how I've done it.

First of all, I paint the wing in Gunze Randome. It's a nice neutral colour, not a million miles off a linen type shade. I got for a rough coat here, because a lot more detail will be added in the next stages:

(https://bobblepic.com/images/2017/01/28/IMG_9686.md.jpg) (https://bobblepic.com/image/Vyk8S)

When this is dry, I do a thin coat of Gunze Sail colour in a random pattern in order to add a shading effect into the mix already:

(https://bobblepic.com/images/2017/01/28/IMG_9689.md.jpg) (https://bobblepic.com/image/Vybiq)

I then mask off the ribs with various widths of Tamiya masking tape, in order prevent any form of overspray:

(https://bobblepic.com/images/2017/01/28/IMG_9691.md.jpg) (https://bobblepic.com/image/VyVod)

Then I sprayed this with a thinned layer of Gunze off-white. This is how it turns out with the masking tape removed:

(https://bobblepic.com/images/2017/01/28/IMG_9693.md.jpg) (https://bobblepic.com/image/VyM7B)

I then use Humbrol weathering powder along each rib. This is intentionally a bit too heavy:

(https://bobblepic.com/images/2017/01/28/IMG_9695.md.jpg) (https://bobblepic.com/image/Vy9Bs)

(https://bobblepic.com/images/2017/01/28/IMG_9698.md.jpg) (https://bobblepic.com/image/VftqI)

Then an overspray of very thinned Randome (50/50 mix) and a very small touching up of the ribs with a subtle hint more of powder and this is how it ends up:

(https://bobblepic.com/images/2017/01/28/IMG_9745.md.jpg) (https://bobblepic.com/image/Vfch0)

What I like about this technique is that when it's viewed from a distance, the ribs are very subtle - however, as you get closer, the whiter shade of the ribs are visible as shown by this distance shot against a close up of the elevators:

(https://bobblepic.com/images/2017/01/28/IMG_9746.md.jpg) (https://bobblepic.com/image/Vf35R)

(https://bobblepic.com/images/2017/01/28/IMG_9702.md.jpg) (https://bobblepic.com/image/Vfnnp)

Anyway, that's all for now... please pass any criticism and comments - this is really the first time I've done this, so any feedback is very much appreciated!

Chris
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W29
Post by: RAGIII on January 29, 2017, 12:02:04 AM
This one is really coming together quite well! I like your color choices and the Hex application looks great!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W29
Post by: Juan on January 29, 2017, 01:58:22 AM
Outstanding work and your color choice and shading is great.  Looking forward to your next post.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W29
Post by: lone modeller on January 29, 2017, 03:22:37 AM
That is a novel way of getting the variations in tone on the undersides of the wings. Personally I think it is very effective, especially the random variation in colour achieved in the first two stages. Natural or clear doped linen colours are so variable and difficult to achieve that I think that many variations are quite acceptable on models - yours is no exception.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W29
Post by: ondra on January 29, 2017, 03:27:26 AM
Very nice job on the masking, Chris, the effect looks very interesting!

Cheers

Ondra
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W29
Post by: lcarroll on January 29, 2017, 04:12:06 AM
   The undersurface CDL effect is very nicely done Chris. I'm a great fan of Chalk Pastel powder for Post Shading much the same as you've done here and I intend to try your method of following it with more paint, very effective!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W29
Post by: gedmundson on January 29, 2017, 05:57:14 AM
Great tutorial on your CDL painting, Chris! It turned out really well.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W29
Post by: chris_jephcott on January 29, 2017, 06:02:20 AM
Thank you very much everybody!

I've put a gloss coat onto the wings now and will hopefully get a decal or two done later this week, possibly starting with the hexagonal patterns.

Glad you all think it looks good - it's not quite finished just yet though.

There's a lot more work on the fuselage to do too before I can consider joining the wings on - but hopefully I'll get a decent amount of this done this week.

Thank you very much again!

Chris
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W29
Post by: 53ryder on February 18, 2017, 11:50:51 PM
Chris-
Did you apply the decals to the elevator and upper rear fuselage right over the (virgin) plastic, or did you apply some clear first? Hard to tell in the pictures. Lovely work!



Glenn
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W29
Post by: chris_jephcott on February 19, 2017, 02:49:34 AM
Hi Glenn,

I promise I'll write and update at some point - just a bit busy at the moment!

I applied them over a gloss coat.

As an aside, does anyone have any experiences with WNW decals wrinkling at all? Mine have been horrific, and have taken a lot of work. I swear next time that I will spray the Balkenkreuz on!!

All the best,

Chris
Title: Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W29
Post by: lcarroll on February 19, 2017, 03:10:52 AM
Hi Glenn,

I promise I'll write and update at some point - just a bit busy at the moment!

I applied them over a gloss coat.

As an aside, does anyone have any experiences with WNW decals wrinkling at all? Mine have been horrific, and have taken a lot of work. I swear next time that I will spray the Balkenkreuz on!!

All the best,

Chris

Chris,
    I've had nothing but exceptionally great performance from WNW Decals; Although I've only used their lozenge on one Build, on the rest, at least five subjects, I've used Aviattic Decals for the Lozenge areas. On the WNW Decals I usually add Microset (blue label) setting solution and very occasionally a small touch of the red label Microsol on raised detail. I have read here on a few occasions that other decal setting products can make them difficult as they seem stronger in their effect. Are you using any enhancers on yours?
Cheers,
Lance