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The WW1 modelers' reference library => Aircraft => Topic started by: Des on August 29, 2012, 07:38:36 AM
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These photos were sent to me by Gunther, he took the photos at the Deutsches Museum, Munich - many thanks to Gunther for allowing me to post the images on the forum.
Des.
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Des,
Thanks for forwarding these and special Thanks to Gunther for sharing them. Great coverage and super quality all round.
Cheers,
Lance
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These pictures are great reference. Thanks for sharing. :)
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These photos are amazing! Thanks to Gunther for taking them and allowing Des to share them. Is it just me, but does the lozenge looks to be original.
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Great pics, thanks! Especially interesting to note the extra wrap of lozenge fabric along the wing and tail edges...
Ian
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Des,
Many thanks to you and Gunther for sharing these excellent reference photos with us my old friend. I was quite surprised to notice all the details known to be there but seldom seen like the wrapping of the internal structures. I'd be totally remiss if I failed to mention the excellent quality of the photography as well. Again many thanks to you both.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Hello all,
I am curious is this museum airplane is in it's original finish or was restored !!! .
The fabric look strange only one kind of color fabric, it's like all the wing and fuselage
was covered by the under surface 4 color !!!.
Like all other members.... a huge ''Thanks '' to place those picture available here they are greats and
will be very welcome for my 1/72 Joystick Rumpler C,IV if my memory is good
Thanks
Marc P
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Yes, thanks Des and Gunther for making these available. These complement those on the WNW site of the same machine nicely.
Incidentally the captions on the WNW site caution us to be skeptical of specific details on this machine, apparently there are discrepancies...
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Yes, thanks Des and Gunther for making these available. These complement those on the WNW site of the same machine nicely.
Incidentally the captions on the WNW site caution us to be skeptical of specific details on this machine, apparently there are discrepancies...
UncleTony, do you know what these discrepancies might be?
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James, all I know at the present is what the WNW captions say. I hope to build the Rumpler one day and when I do I will do my homework...
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Dear friends of WW 1 Aviation !
Through WingnutWings and the search for modelling information I came into contact with Des and marvelled at his beautifully built aeroplanes.
I myself returned to the hobby some 10 years ago , being a 1/35 tanker from childhood days. But nevertheless I always had a knack for aircraft kits, 1/72 in former days, but now I prefer the 1/32 gauge due to detailing etc. .
Though the market is full of WW 2 models I always longed for WW 1 items, not only aircraft kits. Finally we got at least aircraft
models from Roden and WNW.
In the course of talking to one another I sent Des frames that I took at Oberschleißheim (spoken: obashlyzhyme) Aerodrome, now part of the Deutsches Museum, Munich .
Personally I think that we all would enjoy to have money and time to travel all the museums around the world, but this is not
possible.
Books often do not show enough although nowadays the printed photos are much better.
Therefore I thought it a good idea to do it DIY, digital imaging allows to take as much frames as the SD-card will deliver!
Those photos should be shared with other enthusiasts.
With the Rumpler I couldn't get closer* (still lack a tele lens) and due to very bad lighting conditions had to go into the high ISO
numbers 800-1000. * + due to museum barriers;
The Rumpler C IV does not carry the apropriate engine being a Daimler D III instead of a D IV.
The Rumpler was restored in 1977 by Messerschmitt-Bölkow-Blohm (MBB) and in those days I think restorations weren't always
as good - information wise - as nowadays ( there is no further info on the museum placard; I'll send the text to Des)
Interesting as it is in a Natural Science Museum: cutaways are a horror to me unless you do not have several items of the same kind. I think nowadys you won't do that any longer to unicates.
The Lozenge pattern is faded ; I had to redo all frames in Lightroom (mixed lighting conditions) and pushed up dynamics a little
bit.
kind regards, Gunther
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Thanks for the great information, Gunther!!!
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All I'll say after doing some research for my Rumpler Early build is this **DO NOT USE THIS PICS AS DEFINITIVE REFERERANCE** when building. Many details are correct but I read somewnere it isn't typical may be a mix and match of other C variants too.
The power plant is a good pointer *Wrong model of Merc*, The clear wing covering also isnt period correct. some of the interior arrangement is suspect to. So please take care if using any replica/restored examples for refererance.
That said there really are some lovely detail points in these pics and I thank Gunther for sharing them
Keith
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Thanks a bunch. The CIV is my current WNW build (back in the box while I try to finish something else). However, it WILL get finished. I was recently at the IPMS Nats and was sorta disappointed at the lack of WWI entries.
Mike
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I think with a lot of museum specimens, they are not totally correct. Sourcing further information is a must and a comparison of notes will show any errors. In most cases the aircraft on display show what that particular aircraft 'looked' like, it gives the visitors a general feel and to most people it appears to be correct, I suppose - near enough is good enough - except for the die hard purists.
Mike, the last model show I went to had no WW1 models on display, it was very disappointing, maybe this shows just how small our little corner of the market is. Wingnuts have done a tremendous job in rejuvenating the WW1 model aircraft genre, but it will take a lot of work to convert modelers into building two wings with rigging, it scares a lot of people.
Des.
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nice photos thanks to gunther and des for posting. my question. this looks like a diii mercedes engine. i thought the rumpler civ had the div engine. was this original to the aircraft?
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Dear all !
Personally I think museums are not always the apropriate address for a perfect, in-deep restoration.
Sometimes it is more a refurbishment...
Furthermore some machines went through many hands before, every owner changing something on his machine.
The next step is the exact reference material, and so on...
I think the Rumpler CIV is a nice exhibit but not a perfect all original artifact.
Is it the sole survivor so far ? I think so.
Gunther
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Dear all!
Short note: the Rumpler carries a Daimler D. III instead of a D. IV. The Museum mentions it .
I assume that 1977 a D. IV wasn't at hand,
I think: indicates, that the machine came without an engine at all.
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I think the Rumpler CIV is a nice exhibit but not a perfect all original artifact.
Is it the sole survivor so far ? I think so.
Gunther
Hi Gunther,
Fortunately this is not the only survivor. A number of original pieces collected by Marco Sommerau years ago in Belgium are being assembled into a complete airframe by Koloman Mayrhofer (builder of several top class austrian Albatros D.III replicas). See here:
http://www.jasta11.co.uk/page5.htm
Also Achim Engels was building several C.IV wings for some unknown clients in New Zealand when he decided to stop building WWI aircraft (a sad loss for all his fans, I must say), so I must assume we'll see a few new Rumplers flying in a future.
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Thanks! Beto!
for your fine Info; the Albatross shown at Oberschleißheim is a Mayrhofer-built , too (see photo page)
Gunther
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I am going to be in Munich in a few weeks and I am set on seeing this Rumpler! (Warts and all) I am curious if I just ask my hotel concierge for directions to the Deutches Museum I will end up in the right place? Somewhere I got the idea that the aircraft are in some kind of annex. Any advice greatly appreciated.
Cheers
--Bo
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Bo,
I think you will get there. I googled for Deutsches Museum in München and got this (http://www.deutsches-museum.de/sammlungen/verkehr/luftfahrt/propellerflugzeuge/bis-1918/rumpler-c-iv/). Somehow I think you have found this too already ;)
It seems to be on the second floor in the middle of the Museum.
I would trust this information as in my experience in Germany these sites are up to date. Information not only available in german but also in english.
regards,
Ivo
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Hi Bo,
I grew up in Munich and as a child I spend many holidays in the Deutsches Museum, especially the Flugzeughalle (plane's hall), to visit the Me Bf 109 (one of th kind, my my uncle used to fly during WW2). You will find the impressive Rumpler C.IV in the Flugzeughalle of the main building of the Museum (adress: Museumsinsel), which is on a little isle in the River Isar (with a very distinctive towe, see the pic here: http://www.deutsches-museum.de/information/), and only a very short walk from the town's historical centre. EVERYONE in Munich will be able to show you the way to the museum! And: No, this Flugzeughalle with the Rumpler C.IV is NOT in the Flugwerft Schleißheim, as well as it's NOT in the Verkehrszentrum, which are dependences of the Deutsches Museum - and both worth a visit. Here's some more infos: http://www.deutsches-museum.de/fileadmin/Content/010_DM/010_Information/010_Allgemein/2_2013_engl.pdf
Regards
Richard
P.S: I love Munich, please say "hello" to the town from me, when you're there...
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Bo, when you plan your visit to Munich?
Servus
Bertl
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Hello Bo !
Yep, unfortunately the aircraft shown in the Deutsches Museum are sited at two different places !
To get to the main building is no problem, because the museum is sited amidst town.You won't miss it.
To get to the Flugwerft Oberschleißheim, the 1912 nucleus of the Royal Bavarian Fliegertruppe, is a little tricky and
to get there without a car from Munich either. A cab will be expensive... - ask Bertl: it seems that he lives close to
MUC and wants to lend a helping hand. Myself I live 100 km north to it.
The ancient machines you will to 98% find in the main museum site; the post-war planes at Oberschleißheim- but some
pre 1914 relics, too.
If you can afford the time, visit both! but that will take some time and I think , you'd like to contemplate in front of the planes.
If you manage to afford extra time, visit Ingolstadt with the Bavarian Armay Museum and its WW I exhibit !- see my pics.
Ingolstadt is 75km north to MUC and the trip will take a 1,5 hour drive when traffic runs smooth and depending on your hotel
location.
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A few detail shots of the Rumpler from when I was there last March / April (sorry Richard, Gunther & Bertl -- I did not see your replies to me on this thread as I was already traveling and too busy to keep up with the forum at the time! )
Not sure if these add anything to what G has presented; as he mentioned the plane is very hard to photograph as it is poorly lit. It was also Easter when I was there and the place was packed!
As has been noted numerous times the motor is incorrect however it still may be of interest to those modeling an aircraft powered by a D.IIIa
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As an apology for being absent from the forum for quite some time (because of new job and more of family obligations), here are pics of the same bird I've taken a month ago when travelling from Nürnberg back to Serbia. I had only 4 hours to stay in München, and naturally all of it was spent in the Flugzeughalle...
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Since the camera I have is not a state-of-the-art, I had hard time trying to zoom and catch all the details, at the same time avoiding to use flash.
Luckily, there was one guy from museum staff who kindly offered to follow him over the rope and get the details I want (needless to say I was (http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa189/jaka013/smajliji/a010-2.gif)).
So, here are close-up shots:
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It showed up that he is also a modeller and fan of WWI, so we started talking about Roden, WnW, rigging, paintbrush techniques...
My best regards to him(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa189/jaka013/smajliji/goggleson.gif)
p.s. I have also pics in higher resolution, if anybody needs it please PM me...
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Many thanks to Bo and to Profa for adding all the additional photos, these are an invaluable reference source for anyone wanting to super detail their model.
Des.
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Many thanks to Bo and to Profa for adding all the additional photos, these are an invaluable reference source for anyone wanting to super detail their model.
Des.
Hear, hear! Thanks fellows. :D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Thanks for the Photos guys! They are not only terrific in their own right but made me aware of this older thread I had missed!
RAGIII
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Messieurs !
On a recent trip with the Bavarian Army Museum I met a former member of the MBB ( Messerschmitt-Bölkow-Blohm) firm.
He told me that then 4 machines where restored; the fabric is restored, not original.
As a side story, Long ago the german WW1 ace Beaulieu-Marconnay worked for MBB, too .
Kind regards, Gunther
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A great and valuable set of pictures all the same and well worth inspecting, but be wary..
best wishes, Richard
Well said -- it is a wonderful piece to behold in person; I recommend the experience -- but there are many strange things about that Rumpler!
I just wish I had gone out to the Schleissheim annex while I was in Munich… sadly I was ignorant… next time!
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Yep Bo, then we'll go together. ;)
Servus
Bertl
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I've said it before, those are some amazing photos and excellent reference. Thanks so much for sharing. I can only imagine how it is seeing the Rumpler in person. Maybe these photos will make me want to start my Rumpler....
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Hello,
I've been to this museum three or four times and this is my favourite piece!!! :) I know It is restored and not correct but I can definitely see it as a brilliant diorama with some figures(visitors) looking at it :)
Lukas
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Hi all,
i would like to share the address of our website, where you can see the last developments of the rumpler restoration project
www.craftlab.at
all the best
Paolo
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Paolomania thank you for this link. there is a lot for fantastic pictures not only the Rumpler.
Adam,