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Title: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: Des on November 01, 2012, 07:42:46 AM
It is now the first day of November, if Wingnuts wants to beat the postal cut off dates for Christmas they will have to make a move within the next few days, that is of course if they are going to release any more new kits.

We are all expecting the long awaited D.VII this year, well, this year is nearly done, so come on Wingnuts, give us a sign, it's not a hard question and requires a very simple yes/no answer.

Des.
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: Chris Johnson on November 01, 2012, 08:12:25 AM
I'm going out on a limb and predict that in the next few days we're going to see the second Duelist release consisting of the D.VII and Snipe. If it's not released soon, it won't be under my Christmas tree.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: gcn on November 01, 2012, 08:16:15 AM
I spoke to WNW and they said the D.VII would only be released in the UK before Christmas at a price of $20 each. Worldwide pricing in January will be $ 100.

Some or all of this may not be true.
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: Jose Chaica on November 01, 2012, 09:55:48 AM
I´m sure that not only the D.VII will be released, but also the Fokker E.I and E.IV...  :)
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on November 01, 2012, 10:12:13 AM
Last year the Fees and Rumplers were released only a few days before the worldwide mailing deadline, which if memory serves was around 2nd December, so there's a few weeks to go yet methinks.....
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: kornbeef on November 01, 2012, 10:54:56 AM
Yes and cos of PARCELFARCE I got my Xmas pressie mid January  >:(

I'd like a little more chance of actually getting it pre Xmas this year Mr Jackson please... and I'm going to see all your films.. smileyblinkey grin


K
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: cbk57 on November 01, 2012, 10:57:33 AM
Jamo posted in another thread pictures of the WNW D VII displayed in 2011 and if you compare to WNW site it is a different version.  It looks like two variants of the D VII are ready to go.  I don't think there will be another duelist set.  WNW have made it very clear they intend to release the D VII in 2012 and since they normally don't make such statements I will take them at their word.  It will be out when they are ready to release it.
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: Dave W on November 01, 2012, 11:56:36 AM
Personally this end of year release strategy is annoying and self-defeating. We all have enormous spending pressures on us around Christmas and Wingnuts determination to hoard most of their year's releases into a narrow end of year corridor is baffling and counter-productive.

If releases were spaced throughout the year I would be more inclined to buy all of them. As it is a flurry of kits shoe-horned into a narrow release window on top of all of the other Christmas spending commitments, makes me focus on one kit at best and the others can wait or just be ignored. How many Fokker Eindecker versions do I need? ( actually none.)

The real question this year is a test of Wingnut's credibility. They have been honking on for years about the long-promised Fokker D.VII so failure to deliver this one yet again would be a real dent in their PR image. Taking their time to get it right sounds like good PR but the customers are now circling the Wingnuts castle and pitchforks and blazing torches can be seen. Patience is wearing thin.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia

Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: Jamo on November 01, 2012, 01:59:47 PM
Jamo posted in another thread pictures of the WNW D VII displayed in 2011 and if you compare to WNW site it is a different version.  It looks like two variants of the D VII are ready to go.  I don't think there will be another duelist set.  WNW have made it very clear they intend to release the D VII in 2012 and since they normally don't make such statements I will take them at their word.  It will be out when they are ready to release it.

I think there will be at least three versions of the DVII covering the main manufacturers
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: Dave W on November 01, 2012, 04:14:36 PM
Wingnuts has just posted its international Christmas postage cutoff dates on its website.

Buyers in the UK/ Europe etc will need to have their orders placed by 30 November. Customers in the USA etc have a 10 December deadline while the postage cutoff date for Australia is 14 December.

Now the clock is really ticking on any new Christmas releases........

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 01, 2012, 05:44:25 PM
My guess (for what it's worth) is that the crew @ WNWs will release the Sopwith Tripe & Snipe before Christmas. The DVII in the spring of 2013.
Happy to be wrong were the DVII is concerned  ;)

Von happytowaitforthenextbigwingnut!

BobaGast the Wise  predicts it!

(http://i1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii626/d4rkgimp/bobagast.jpeg)
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on November 01, 2012, 07:02:46 PM
Personally this end of year release strategy is annoying and self-defeating. We all have enormous spending pressures on us around Christmas and Wingnuts determination to hoard most of their year's releases into a narrow end of year corridor is baffling and counter-productive.

If releases were spaced throughout the year I would be more inclined to buy all of them. As it is a flurry of kits shoe-horned into a narrow release window on top of all of the other Christmas spending commitments, makes me focus on one kit at best and the others can wait or just be ignored. How many Fokker Eindecker versions do I need? ( actually none.)

The real question this year is a test of Wingnut's credibility. They have been honking on for years about the long-promised Fokker D.VII so failure to deliver this one yet again would be a real dent in their PR image. Taking their time to get it right sounds like good PR but the customers are now circling the Wingnuts castle and pitchforks and blazing torches can be seen. Patience is wearing thin.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia

Dave, I agree it is frustrating waiting for kit releases but I can't blame WNW for making releases close to Christmas.  I don't see why that would stop you or anyone else buying the kits you want, just get them later into the following year?  I am pretty sure that many Fees and Rumplers will have been ordered during 2012. 

I for one am not that bothered about the D.VII - for sure, it will be a superb kit and if I am given one as a gift then I will take delight in building it.  However the model I would prioritise on is the E.II/III - I can't afford to fork out for one now, so unless it arrives as a Christmas gift then I will have to save up and get one next year.
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: mgunns on November 02, 2012, 02:01:24 AM
Last year the Fees and Rumplers were released only a few days before the worldwide mailing deadline, which if memory serves was around 2nd December, so there's a few weeks to go yet methinks.....
I too bought one each of the Fee and a Rumpler; I think they were both the late versions, and rushed to ensure WW delivery by the Christmas deadline, now here it is 1 November 2012, and they still are on the "Shelf of Doom"  naturally, others have been built and I am presently at work on one, but; the point being, all the excitement over these kits and here they sit.  How many of us, have these kits sitting in the stash with an assembly date sometime in the future.  I too look forward to the DVII, have for quite some time, I am trying to justify "Duelists" as I have about ten WNW kits on the shelf now.   It took about 4 years for the LVG to sell out, the W29 in about two years.  Point being.  I can wait.  Let WNW hold to their schedule and I will build what is currently in the stash.  If the modelers on this forum are like the modelers I know in person, which I am sure we all are, we all have plenty in the stash to work on.  That being written:........."Bring on the DVII in any guise, and I will pony up to buy it.

Mark

Curmudgeon at large ;)
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: pepperman42 on November 10, 2012, 02:48:45 PM
Too many Hobbits not enough DVII's.....

Steve
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on November 10, 2012, 05:25:32 PM
i always figured there would be 4 dvii kits. a fokker early and late and albatros early and late. i have also justified the long time its taking because of this. i do want a dvii or 2 or 3 but i dont care when as long as it happens. i got several wnw kits either incomplete or unstarted .as well as a couple hundred other ww1 aero kits so as i said ,whenever they got it perfect is fine with me.the curiosity is mainly over which schemes will be kitted, and how many pheon schemes we will have to choose from.
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: GHE on November 11, 2012, 12:32:45 AM
Messieurs !
I recently heard that WNW will release a decent mark IV tank - won't they?

pardonme kidding...

Gunther
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: fcmdecal on November 11, 2012, 12:57:27 AM
At such times I wonder how Roden lost and is still losing a great opportunity to launch a Fokker D.VII in 1/32 scale, taking advantage of the excellent work they did in 1/48 scale ... :(
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: Trackpad on November 14, 2012, 11:24:01 AM
I too bought one each of the Fee and a Rumpler; I think they were both the late versions, and rushed to ensure WW delivery by the Christmas deadline, now here it is 1 November 2012, and they still are on the "Shelf of Doom."

Mark

Curmudgeon at large ;)

I think that Mark's got it right. I got my Biff a few years ago, and only recently got to it via the Group Build. Two more WNW offerings are in the loft, the Triplane is on the way, and the Snipe will follow in due course. A Camel will get my attention, also in due course, but I'm not expecting it soon. I'll get it when I can.

By my count, the WNW kit numbers run from 1 to 48, less "The Duellists." If all of the kits offered or in development or sold out are counted, there are 20 kit numbers not yet allocated. With any luck, these represent kits "eventually to be offered." If so, we have much to anticipate!  ;)
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: pepperman42 on November 15, 2012, 12:11:20 AM
....what a difference a day makes.......

Steve
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: Checkers67 on November 15, 2012, 12:46:09 AM
I fell in love with hobbits and their world in high school. Apparently I was not alone. That led to my next love, besides Melissa, WWI flying machines. I look forward to more amazing aeroplanes from WnW and Roden! Especially a Hannover CL.III and Oeffag Albie. So any of you want to part with a LVG VI let me know please.
 8) Steve
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: Des on November 18, 2012, 10:43:17 AM
Time is running out very quickly if Wingnuts want to beat the postal cut off dates, the Fokker D.VII is still in the 'coming soon' list, I guess in Wingnuts eyes the word 'soon' must be like the old adage - how long is a piece of string - nobody knows the answer.  ::) ::)

Des.
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: mike in calif on November 18, 2012, 02:56:23 PM
Des, having seen a battle axed DVII, I'll be a little more patient. The released build of an early DVII by the Hobbits sure looks good to me, and a chance to do Fokker streakies on other than a triplane.
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: Dekenba on November 19, 2012, 07:57:17 PM
With the speed with which new models get snapped up, even 1 day before the Christmas deadline should suffice!

And it's not as if anybody needs a gift giving excuse the buy a WNW kit, it's not really a popular gift to buy, is it, unless it's for yourself?

A WNW Fokker D.VII is just as welcome after December 25th as it is on December 25th!
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: Whiteknuckles on December 01, 2012, 02:09:16 PM
Well, they certainly made their move gents!!

How many of you have now blown your Chrissy budgets?? ;) 8)

Andrew
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: Des on December 01, 2012, 02:16:48 PM
Well, they certainly made their move gents!!

How many of you have now blown your Chrissy budgets?? ;) 8)

Andrew

Yes Andrew, they certainly did, and what an impressive move it has been, there are enough kits available now to keep everyone happy until the end of next year. It will be interesting to see just how many of these kits will actually get built.

Des.
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: pepperman42 on December 02, 2012, 04:14:10 AM
They should keep us happy until next year but you know within 2 months we'll want more More MORE!!!!

Steve
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: Whiteknuckles on December 02, 2012, 01:48:38 PM
....It will be interesting to see just how many of these kits will actually get built....

A valid and good point Des. It would be interesting to know the percentage of kits bought for collections/investment rather than building (now or later). Also, a number of fellow forum members have realised that their stash's are bigger than their building capability and that they will never get around too many of their builds - will they still fall to temptation? If I had the money I think I'd fall into that boat!!

....but you know within 2 months we'll want more More MORE!!!!

Especially if some more of the kits join the HB W.29 and the LVG C.VI sold out status and ignite some more panic buying ;)

Andrew
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: mgunns on December 03, 2012, 07:14:41 AM
How True Des!
I echo WK sentiment.  I know personally three modelers who buy the WNW kits, start them and put them aside.  One has two Gotha's.  Sadly, they never see the light of day.  I was explaining to SWMBO the pitfalls of modelers who transition from building into collecting.  It is easy to do.  At my age, it is now will I be able to live long enough and maintain my health to continue to build.  I really enjoy these kits and build exclusively 1/32nd WWI subjects and most of those are WNW kits.  One of the guys in the club summed it up succinctly when he said, "Life is too short to build crappy kits"  I have to agree.  So, I do collect with the intent to build, and I also have something on th bench all the time.  Sometimes stalled but always finsihed.

Best
Mark
Well, they certainly made their move gents!!
 It will be interesting to see just how many of these kits will actually get built.

Des.
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: pepperman42 on December 03, 2012, 09:48:48 AM
So Mark, you and I are living to 147 if my math is correct....

Steve
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: mgunns on December 03, 2012, 10:01:17 AM
So Mark, you and I are living to 147 if my math is correct....

Steve

That is my current intention, I may have to petition the almighty for a little more time depending on what kits decide to make an appearance, but so far 147 is my goal presently, cryogenics notwhithstanding.

Mark
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: pepperman42 on December 03, 2012, 12:19:50 PM
Now if you were building just Roden kits you might have to talk to the guy on the south side.........shouldnt say that. Roden has given us some great topics.

Steve
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: mgunns on December 04, 2012, 12:57:42 AM
Now if you were building just Roden kits you might have to talk to the guy on the south side.........shouldnt say that. Roden has given us some great topics.

Steve

I avoid the guy on the southside at all costs!    :o  Yes, Roden has given us great topics, some require more modeling skills than others, but great topics none the less.

L8R  8)

Mark
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: lcarroll on December 04, 2012, 03:16:48 AM
You are right on the mark, Mark! :D
Their Alb DIII is a pretty fine kit, needs a little more "application" then some but still a great subject and enjoyable build.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: pepperman42 on December 04, 2012, 11:12:29 AM
We are a bit spoiled arent we? I remember being happy if the 12 parts of a kit actually appeared to be of the same topic.

Steve
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: GAJouette on December 04, 2012, 11:23:29 AM
  Steve,
LOL ,maybe just a bit spoiled my old friend.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: pepperman42 on December 04, 2012, 11:28:57 AM
See Gregory!! You know Exactly what I mean. It was like the 2 guys that made the master werent even in the same room. "George, you go next door and carve the left fuselage half, I'll do the right, dont worry about checking with me, just getter down to production..."

Steve
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: GAJouette on December 04, 2012, 11:40:26 AM
  Steve,
Shh I think we just may have apparently dated ourselves. I used to be such a joy when the new twelve parts (read chunks)  kits arrived . Gave me something else to do rather than drawing on the walls of the family cave. Really rated right up there with fire IMHO.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: Des on December 04, 2012, 09:12:46 PM
I was just happy to get a plastig bag that had ALL twelve parts in it, and sometimes, if I was real lucky, the bag also had insructions.

Now, this is really showing my age  :-[ :-[

Des.
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: Jim52 on December 04, 2012, 09:19:35 PM
Were you guys a "Step in the Fuselage halves on top" or 'on the bottom." types?
 ;) ;) :o

Jim
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: Trackpad on December 05, 2012, 12:29:59 AM
So Mark, you and I are living to 147 if my math is correct....

Steve

That is my current intention, I may have to petition the almighty for a little more time depending on what kits decide to make an appearance, but so far 147 is my goal presently, cryogenics notwhithstanding.

Mark

I've made my deal already. He won't take me until I finish my kits. (Then I sneak a few more in when He's not looking!) Works beautifully!  ;D
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: pepperman42 on December 05, 2012, 01:56:43 AM
Jim I ended up kinda just centring everything and grinding down the top and bottom. For the longest time I didnt know why the Thunderbolt was called the Jug because it looked just as skinny as all the rest.

Steve
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: Dekenba on December 05, 2012, 04:47:30 AM
I have just spent $442 on WNW kits, ordering those kits that I either don't have already or don't have in other manufacturers.

I feel awfully guilty!
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: Jim52 on December 05, 2012, 05:28:47 AM
Buyer's remorse....you'll get over it! 8) Just think of the
"Scarface" scene you can pull with all that plastic!  ;D ;D ;D

Jim
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: Whiteknuckles on December 05, 2012, 11:39:09 AM
I have just spent $442 on WNW kits, ordering those kits that I either don't have already or don't have in other manufacturers.

I feel awfully guilty!

....but secretly drooling with anticipation no doubt ;) ;D

Andrew
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: GAJouette on December 05, 2012, 12:08:45 PM
I have just spent $442 on WNW kits, ordering those kits that I either don't have already or don't have in other manufacturers.

I feel awfully guilty!

  Dekenba,
Naughty naughty boy. Don't feel guilty though,you're not alone. Enjoy those lovely new WNW kit my friend.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Wingnuts - Time to make a move
Post by: pepperman42 on December 05, 2012, 12:09:47 PM
Wait 20 days then say Merry Christmas to me!!

Steve