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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: DaddyO on June 26, 2022, 07:28:18 PM

Title: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on June 26, 2022, 07:28:18 PM: Following on from the Tripe I've got a couple of things on the bench at the moment.

First of these is a second attempt at Eduard's lovely little 72nd Nieuport (The first one I tried ended up being a bit of a test piece for getting to grips with modelling again so I was feeling guilty and thought I'd have another go)

For this one I've been practicing with brass for replacing the struts although I chickened out of the main ones and ended up sanding the details off these and thinning them down. Here are a few pics of progress so far.

The engine looked a bit undersize compared to pics so I wrapped the cylinders for a bit of added bulk (although most of it isn't going to be seen anyway

Cheers
Paul

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Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: WD on June 26, 2022, 11:48:33 PM: Looks great DaddyO! No such thing as too many Nieuports. 8)

WD
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on June 27, 2022, 12:02:43 AM: Quote from: WD on June 26, 2022, 11:48:33 PM
Looks great DaddyO! No such thing as too many Nieuports. 8)

WD

Cheers WD

I obviously think the same since after this one there's still a dual boxing of the 17 version on the shelf ;D I may change one into the SS1 though (which was a pretty close German copy of the Nieuport ;)
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: pepperman42 on June 27, 2022, 12:05:59 AM: Nice start. Those struts in particular look good.

Steve
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: KiwiZac on June 27, 2022, 08:19:37 AM: I agree with Steve, those struts look fantastic!
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on June 27, 2022, 05:16:08 PM: Quote from: pepperman42 on June 27, 2022, 12:05:59 AM
Nice start. Those struts in particular look good.

Steve

Quote from: KiwiZac on June 27, 2022, 08:19:37 AM
I agree with Steve, those struts look fantastic!

Thanks Kiwi & Zac ;D

All I have to do now is build the rest of the thing up to the same standard . . .
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: WD on June 28, 2022, 01:51:16 AM: Quote from: DaddyO on June 27, 2022, 12:02:43 AM
Quote from: WD on June 26, 2022, 11:48:33 PM
Looks great DaddyO! No such thing as too many Nieuports. 8)

WD

Cheers WD

I obviously think the same since after this one there's still a dual boxing of the 17 version on the shelf ;D I may change one into the SS1 though (which was a pretty close German copy of the Nieuport ;)

At one time I believe I had the old Meikraft kit of the SS D.I, but I believe I sold it. You should be able to pull it off.

WD
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: Alexis on June 28, 2022, 03:07:43 AM: Nice work on dressing her up :) I like the effect on the cylinders , much better !

Alexis
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on July 04, 2022, 03:15:58 AM: Quote from: Alexis on June 28, 2022, 03:07:43 AM
Nice work on dressing her up :) I like the effect on the cylinders , much better !

Alexis
Thanks Alexis
Bit of recent progress on this bird.

Reading through an old issue of Windsock I came across an interesting article about the way 'clear doped' fabric changed colour when the factory started adding aluminium powder to the dope given rise to a range of shades that I wouldn't have chosen (and probably explains the reference to 'sail' colour in the Eduard instructions. Anyway I mixed up something suitable in Vallejo air paint and sprayed the under surfaces. (Just for fun I used a lighter shade first and then masked off the rib positions)

If you click on the image you'll see the colour swatch I was trying to match
Next up camo ;D

Paul

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Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: RAGIII on July 04, 2022, 11:03:11 PM: Very impressive work all around! The interior looks Fantastic as does the cut out in the upper wing. I Love the Fabric color on the lower side!
RAGIII
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on July 04, 2022, 11:12:21 PM: Quote from: RAGIII on July 04, 2022, 11:03:11 PM
Very impressive work all around! The interior looks Fantastic as does the cut out in the upper wing. I Love the Fabric color on the lower side!
RAGIII

Cheers RAGIII. I've knocked the rib tapes back a bit on the lower wing with a light overspray now so it looks a bit less like paper wrapping ;)

Not sure about the decals to cover the wing centre section, but presumably they'll look okay?

Cheers
Paul
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: WD on July 05, 2022, 02:01:43 AM: Quote from: DaddyO on July 04, 2022, 11:12:21 PM
Quote from: RAGIII on July 04, 2022, 11:03:11 PM
Very impressive work all around! The interior looks Fantastic as does the cut out in the upper wing. I Love the Fabric color on the lower side!
RAGIII

Cheers RAGIII. I've knocked the rib tapes back a bit on the lower wing with a light overspray now so it looks a bit less like paper wrapping ;)

Not sure about the decals to cover the wing centre section, but presumably they'll look okay?

Paul,
I've pondered a bit about those "clear" decals that are supposed to go over that center section. Not sure how I'm going to approach it, and I'm sure interested to see how you're going to do it since my Nieuport builds are what's going to get resurrected after I'm done with my current projects on the bench.
I think the rib tapes look great! What scheme/whose crate are you recreating?

WD
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on July 05, 2022, 03:53:49 AM: Quote from: WD on July 05, 2022, 02:01:43 AM
Quote from: DaddyO on July 04, 2022, 11:12:21 PM
Quote from: RAGIII on July 04, 2022, 11:03:11 PM
Very impressive work all around! The interior looks Fantastic as does the cut out in the upper wing. I Love the Fabric color on the lower side!
RAGIII

Cheers RAGIII. I've knocked the rib tapes back a bit on the lower wing with a light overspray now so it looks a bit less like paper wrapping ;)

Not sure about the decals to cover the wing centre section, but presumably they'll look okay?

Paul,
I've pondered a bit about those "clear" decals that are supposed to go over that center section. Not sure how I'm going to approach it, and I'm sure interested to see how you're going to do it since my Nieuport builds are what's going to get resurrected after I'm done with my current projects on the bench.
I think the rib tapes look great! What scheme/whose crate are you recreating?

WD

Crash test dummy eh? ;D LOL
Well I'll give em a go WD and take a pic so you can see the effect.
If they don't quite work I've got some clear mylar laying around from my Freeflight days (I suppose cellophane wrapping would be similar, but you can shrink the mylar tight after gluing in place with a bit of heat which might be useful. The trick I think is going to be disguising the edges so that it looks neat. I'll try the decals first and then use one of the spare wings to see what else I have that might work.

I eventually chose Adjudant Pierre Penderies because I wanted one that wasn't an obvious choice and thought the camo finish looked a bit different on a Nieuport. I'll probably do a silver one to keep it company at some point.
Although there's a nice piece of etch for the Lewis support I've ordered some very fine brass wire which I'll try instead first (My record with folding etched brass is quite poor) :P

I'm just waiting for the top to dry after spraying the green/brown. Brown looking a bit dark, but I should be able to pull it back with some careful weathering. There's also a bit of touching up needed which is a nuisance, but there you go.

Cheers
Paul

ps - Anyone have a good match for the French blue colour used on the decals for touching up?
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: WD on July 05, 2022, 09:14:55 AM: The trick I think is going to be disguising the edges so that it looks neat.
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Aye, there's the rub.

The blue used on the center of French roundels was a nice, dark ultramarine (not that "powder blue" you see used for some roundel centers from other manufacturers) while the blue used for outlining was closer, at least from what I remember people posting about a match years ago, to the paint used to paint French Adrian helmets and other equipment when they went over to horizon blue for their uniforms.

Bottom line: it doesn't have to be an exact match since it wasn't then.

Just my two kopecks,

WD
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on July 07, 2022, 03:51:16 PM: Okay slight hiccup in the progress on this one :-[

Added the kit decals and was trying to decide how best to make the very light blue a bit darker and I spotted that the red outer ring had a slight misprint (Looks like there is a double print of the red for density and one layer was out of line) Difficult to see in photos, but much more apparent to the naked eye especially on the camouflaged surface)
No problem I thought I'll whip them off since they'd only been on a few hours. Tried softening with water, then micro sol and even tried pulling them off with masking and scotch tape, but apart from some slight damage they were down for good ???

I eventually resorted to scraping with the inevitable damage to the paint. When I'd stopped weeping and swearing I looked at the top wing and decided it would be better to start afresh with the spare one from the box so that's what I'll be up to for the next few days . . .

I also tried the transparent decals for the centre section without any success.

All in all a bit of a hiccup :P
Paul

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Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: WD on July 10, 2022, 12:32:25 AM: DaddyO,
If you can find some close-ups or blow-ups of shots of wing roundels (both French and RFC) you'll see that most of them are anything but perfect, and are sometimes somewhat ragged. I know, I know, this defies our logic of what it's supposed to look like, but it's the simple truth. Something hard to pull and NOT make it look like sloppy modeling.

Too bad about the clear center-section decal, I had high hopes that would be successful.

WD
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on July 10, 2022, 01:48:06 AM: Yep worth reiterating that they were hand painted generally and the quality depended on the ability of the person wielding the brush. (Doing a fair bit of sign writing in my day job, the little irregularities are what makes the work 'attractive' to a customer)

Almost finished the respray now so hopefully get this wrapped up soon. ;D

Paul

ps - I did resurrect the original Nieuport that was languishing in the box and rubbed down the old finish, re-primed and have now given a coat of silver so maybe there will be two nearing completion (Quite fancy and Italian scheme so I'll have a look at what decals are available . . . )
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: RAGIII on July 10, 2022, 03:29:21 AM: The camo really looked great so I am looking forward to the re-paint and of course the second Silver Bird!
RAGIII
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: Brad Cancian on July 10, 2022, 02:27:51 PM: Looking great, I love what you've done with the engine and struts in particular (I do think the Eduard kit engine is a little anaemic).

I also like your choice of markings (I went with the same scheme way back when, when i built my Eduard kit, though mine was straight OOB).

(https://i.imgur.com/Gq4viDm.jpg)

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on July 10, 2022, 03:53:15 PM: Thanks guys :)

Nice job Brad - Did you use any covering over the centre section or just left it open?

Paul
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: Brad Cancian on July 10, 2022, 06:51:58 PM: Hi Paul - as I was building this one out of box, I left it open with no clear covering.

An option for clear covering may be 0.05" clear plastic sheet, which I think is part of the evergreen sheet lineup? It should bond with white glue. It won't be seamless, but it's an option, I suppose.

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: WD on July 11, 2022, 01:40:20 AM: OK, absolutely crazy idea, but would Saran-Wrap/cling film work? Stretch it, spread it on, cut out with a scalpel?

Just an idea.

WD
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: pepperman42 on July 12, 2022, 07:15:32 AM: What about Micro clear? Mike Norris got great results on a1/32 window for his Be2c. It should set up relatively thin and if it spans a 1/32 window it should work in the Nieuport wing space.

Steve
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: RAGIII on July 12, 2022, 07:28:36 AM: I seem to remember that Scotch Tape, The Glossy Clear Type, has been used successfully. I am sure that there are many methods that would work!
RAGIII
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: WD on July 12, 2022, 09:46:51 AM: Quote from: RAGIII on July 12, 2022, 07:28:36 AM
I seem to remember that Scotch Tape, The Glossy Clear Type, has been used successfully. I am sure that there are many methods that would work!
RAGIII

Rick, I was thinking of that or packing tape.
Steve, are you talking about the Micro-Scale product that is like very refined white glue?

WD
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: pepperman42 on July 12, 2022, 09:58:18 AM: Yup WD that's the stuff. Check out Mike Norris' Be2c build. It worked well.

Steve
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on July 12, 2022, 04:04:19 PM: Okay colours back on and fresh new decals from Printscale have been applied without any hitches so back to where we were a week ago ;D

Thanks for the heads up about the glossy Scotch tape (I didn't even know they made a glossy version) Off to WH Smiths to see if I can locate some today to try out

(I'll post a pic of both machines later)
Paul
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: PrzemoL on July 12, 2022, 09:24:41 PM: Very fine progress.
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on July 13, 2022, 12:12:26 AM: Thanks Prz ;D

Here's the first attempt after removing the decals sanding down
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And here's where we are as of today with both of them. I'm waiting for the Italian decals to arrive, but I've added the wing undersides and fin stripe in Scale 75 acrylic since I was painting the rudder stripe of the other one

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Final pic is of a quick test of the Scotch tape crystal that was recommended. I just slapped a piece on and trimmed with a scalpel to see how it looked

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Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: Stuart Malone on July 13, 2022, 01:51:18 AM: The packing tape/scotch tape idea is brilliant! I need to build an Eduard Nieuport and will definitely use this technique and all the other little things Paul has done. Great work.

Stuart
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: WD on July 13, 2022, 04:28:17 AM: Glad it worked out! This is what I had planned to do on my Noops, but didn't know if it'd work, now I know it does. :)

WD
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: KiwiZac on July 13, 2022, 01:53:36 PM: Excellent, that worked out rather nicely!
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: Jorgo on July 13, 2022, 04:33:48 PM: Scotch tape is a terrific idea and looks great. Thanks for the tutorial !

Jörg
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on July 13, 2022, 05:02:27 PM: Many thanks all although it was RAGIII suggested the idea. :-[ I just went and bought a roll to try. (Got some funny looks in WH Smiths examining all the different 'sellotape' materials very closely, but eventually settled on this one) ;D

Paul
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: RAGIII on July 14, 2022, 01:08:12 AM: Quote from: DaddyO on July 13, 2022, 05:02:27 PM
Many thanks all although it was RAGIII suggested the idea. :-[ I just went and bought a roll to try. (Got some funny looks in WH Smiths examining all the different 'sellotape' materials very closely, but eventually settled on this one) ;D

Paul

Just remember to do the underside also 8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on July 14, 2022, 01:40:49 AM: Quote from: RAGIII on July 14, 2022, 01:08:12 AM
Quote from: DaddyO on July 13, 2022, 05:02:27 PM
Many thanks all although it was RAGIII suggested the idea. :-[ I just went and bought a roll to try. (Got some funny looks in WH Smiths examining all the different 'sellotape' materials very closely, but eventually settled on this one) ;D

Paul

Just remember to do the underside also 8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on July 17, 2022, 06:38:31 PM: Seem to have spent a lot of time this week without much to show for it ::)

Lots of fiddly bits done and both models are at about the same stage now. The engine from the 'old' version was fitted into a cut away cowl so I needed a spare engine; same as before wrapped the cylinders and got it painted up (new one on the left) Of course I then needed a new cowl with the cooling slots cut out . . . .

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/3znj9rIkv1E8TSqvKdeyuSx0YM9a41eCIGbrLcg8LS2pHODoUjdYmFVzIkai_jScBpXuj8dsOL14ohEOIJsrDF4yRlTmf3kTiThQfsRoJIdhdnJn9GcTWjgfuBvJCRmbm8B6bRsxqQ=w600-h315-p-k) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/3znj9rIkv1E8TSqvKdeyuSx0YM9a41eCIGbrLcg8LS2pHODoUjdYmFVzIkai_jScBpXuj8dsOL14ohEOIJsrDF4yRlTmf3kTiThQfsRoJIdhdnJn9GcTWjgfuBvJCRmbm8B6bRsxqQ=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)

Added the detail to the camo wing centre section using scraps of plastic strip

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Tg6BPGHQrLV_6Og_HdnKdzJrh4xWZ4z6tsSQDZY9AgHLZl0bP8BhDZFM3LSoTfWcYGmYM7ZflQmHm9KeUyChhSREYqznLts2qZVhagQpZwDtuFfk58HqpWAerq5w8nLxa9QsS7ZcZA=w600-h315-p-k) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Tg6BPGHQrLV_6Og_HdnKdzJrh4xWZ4z6tsSQDZY9AgHLZl0bP8BhDZFM3LSoTfWcYGmYM7ZflQmHm9KeUyChhSREYqznLts2qZVhagQpZwDtuFfk58HqpWAerq5w8nLxa9QsS7ZcZA=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)

And of course needed to make up a pair of new struts by sanding off the moulded on detail and painting so I now have a pair of upper wings (centre section detail painted in as well)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/MoO5ZLSmqcVFupm_ttv7lXRS4DRvog-DKavhmt30oTgmo242ufg7JzrTE-FXK5cB27eQqOSbooA0yL_bKoGFq45-_CtTrLtDRxtRPUMn4--uFw8K9H13iHv7nfDun8yUu3wm0cnPmQ=w600-h315-p-k) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/MoO5ZLSmqcVFupm_ttv7lXRS4DRvog-DKavhmt30oTgmo242ufg7JzrTE-FXK5cB27eQqOSbooA0yL_bKoGFq45-_CtTrLtDRxtRPUMn4--uFw8K9H13iHv7nfDun8yUu3wm0cnPmQ=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)

Finally gave the camo one a coat of Dullcote (Anyone recommend a replacement for this? Ideally acrylic.
(W&N Galleria seems to darken the colours) and repainted the silver ones metal areas and added the painted on details (cockpit combing etc)
I going to use the kit U/C assembly on the second one as well as the forward interplane struts so that I can get them both finished. Italian decals have just arrived for the silver one so all I need to do is decide which scheme to do . . . .

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/TWGuWlaEqy5zglIQ5xld9F0nmOJNj-FBwMqAgL6TBrhZfvPkFSraDiV9EvqBK05t4oOrctuSQraI7YXyaO1Ll0g5xuyOAzdnTCwhh6o1h4TJ00-ZAaNdHzZOcV4bKCvSi0ts9OTshw=w600-h315-p-k) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/TWGuWlaEqy5zglIQ5xld9F0nmOJNj-FBwMqAgL6TBrhZfvPkFSraDiV9EvqBK05t4oOrctuSQraI7YXyaO1Ll0g5xuyOAzdnTCwhh6o1h4TJ00-ZAaNdHzZOcV4bKCvSi0ts9OTshw=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: andonio64 on July 17, 2022, 06:53:07 PM: Hi Paul, great work so far!
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: WD on July 18, 2022, 12:59:02 AM: Beautiful work so far, I can't wait to get started on mine.
Looking forward to see your progress on both of these.

WD
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on July 18, 2022, 01:02:57 AM: Thank you both. Glad you're enjoying them so far.

Is it just me that find building these things like a game of jeopardy ? The further you get along on the build the greater the pressure not to muck them up with the next stage. . . . ;D

Paul
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: KiwiZac on July 18, 2022, 07:01:03 AM: Quote from: DaddyO on July 17, 2022, 06:38:31 PM
Seem to have spent a lot of time this week without much to show for it ::)
Any progress is good progress!

Quote from: DaddyO on July 18, 2022, 01:02:57 AM
Is it just me that find building these things like a game of jeopardy ? The further you get along on the build the greater the pressure not to muck them up with the next stage. . . . ;D
Now that you've written it, I realise that's exactly how I feel while building Great War subjects (and multiplanes in general)!
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: pepperman42 on July 18, 2022, 09:17:55 PM: Man you six footers amaze me!!

Steve
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: RAGIII on July 18, 2022, 10:47:23 PM: Both are looking terrific! I do like the camo and center wing cutout detail !
RAGIII
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on July 19, 2022, 02:20:19 AM: Quote from: KiwiZac on July 18, 2022, 07:01:03 AM
Quote from: DaddyO on July 17, 2022, 06:38:31 PM
Seem to have spent a lot of time this week without much to show for it ::)
Any progress is good progress!

Quote from: DaddyO on July 18, 2022, 01:02:57 AM
Is it just me that find building these things like a game of jeopardy ? The further you get along on the build the greater the pressure not to muck them up with the next stage. . . . ;D
Now that you've written it, I realise that's exactly how I feel while building Great War subjects (and multiplanes in general)!

Thanks Zac - So glad it's not just me 8)

Quote from: pepperman42 on July 18, 2022, 09:17:55 PM
Man you six footers amaze me!!

Steve

Hah Ha - took me a moment Steve ::) Glad you like em

Quote from: RAGIII on July 18, 2022, 10:47:23 PM
Both are looking terrific! I do like the camo and center wing cutout detail !
RAGIII

Cheers RAGIII
Baby steps at the moment . . . ;)
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: FAf on July 19, 2022, 03:37:19 AM: Quote from: DaddyO on July 18, 2022, 01:02:57 AM

Is it just me that find building these things like a game of jeopardy ? The further you get along on the build the greater the pressure not to muck them up with the next stage. . . . ;D

Paul

I have also reached that conclusion! And it goes well with my idea that alla builds start out as flawless and full of opportunity only to be reduced and limited by each step in the build. The largest problem is of course that if you let this realisation get to you, you won't be able to finish a build again. :) So ignore it and press on! :D

/F
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: KiwiZac on July 19, 2022, 08:20:05 AM: Quote from: DaddyO on July 19, 2022, 02:20:19 AM
Thanks Zac - So glad it's not just me 8)
The number of times "just enough pressure" to mount the extra wing turns into "wings pancaking onto one another"...!
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on July 19, 2022, 04:55:46 PM: Quote from: FAf on July 19, 2022, 03:37:19 AM
Quote from: DaddyO on July 18, 2022, 01:02:57 AM

I have also reached that conclusion! And it goes well with my idea that alla builds start out as flawless and full of opportunity only to be reduced and limited by each step in the build. The largest problem is of course that if you let this realisation get to you, you won't be able to finish a build again. :) So ignore it and press on! :D

/F

Absolutely right. Working commercially I quickly found that getting the job completed was better in the long run for your learning rather than endlessly trying to produce something 'perfect' ;D

Quote from: KiwiZac on July 19, 2022, 08:20:05 AM
Quote from: DaddyO on July 19, 2022, 02:20:19 AM
Thanks Zac - So glad it's not just me 8)
The number of times "just enough pressure" to mount the extra wing turns into "wings pancaking onto one another"...!

LOL Zac - that's exactly why the original went back onto the shelf of doom (and the appaling amount of dust I was managing to get each time I added a layer of paint!)

Paul
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on July 30, 2022, 08:22:32 PM: Well not as much progress on these this week as I'd like, but sometimes other stuff just gets in the way ::)

Managed to stick a few bits together and get a bit of weathering done on both so we're now ready to assemble I think. (I also replaced the tail on the silver one because I kept knocking the damn elevator off and it was getting tattier and tattier so eventually I just picked another one out of the box and repainted to match)

I'll lay off the coffee today so hopefully I'll be able to do some assembly without breaking anything ;D

Paul

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/xV_oq7Dvz5hfrFdtXA7EA00i86uiyEW3esxwNg06CFa1i6866jJ8iI2bCcBAvfhaWC29elXjtaHdsjmb1GVEH4ilgw_mD8JxfsPbcow8BTbeDD8K7KbpMRkhZDkT1HSbOhqbHhV_Lg=w600-h315-p-k) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/xV_oq7Dvz5hfrFdtXA7EA00i86uiyEW3esxwNg06CFa1i6866jJ8iI2bCcBAvfhaWC29elXjtaHdsjmb1GVEH4ilgw_mD8JxfsPbcow8BTbeDD8K7KbpMRkhZDkT1HSbOhqbHhV_Lg=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/71iqIK_YwnZKwHiI8cVNLBBJYvoy37lFXJXKSBs_saE-hNKfuk1YUbygX71GBGkdajPd2cSWzyTJdU-8nsC_IIikF2dN_a7dxmXCwumOU84aQgzF2WDlLoipYoFBE61I5TGrKz1V6w=w600-h315-p-k) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/71iqIK_YwnZKwHiI8cVNLBBJYvoy37lFXJXKSBs_saE-hNKfuk1YUbygX71GBGkdajPd2cSWzyTJdU-8nsC_IIikF2dN_a7dxmXCwumOU84aQgzF2WDlLoipYoFBE61I5TGrKz1V6w=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/bE4D6XLJBNIfKVEpZPq4FF9pgeJCcXGhhRCu8CiOLuuLiADM8gahW7YyAM8y_gN4Vry5A_IY-l4Rth4-Yd3LIFUXCHEylfBOmeSnR2SwyFWZfpa0tNQ2oove6L6wyFK5qYX7V2VJvA=w600-h315-p-k) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/bE4D6XLJBNIfKVEpZPq4FF9pgeJCcXGhhRCu8CiOLuuLiADM8gahW7YyAM8y_gN4Vry5A_IY-l4Rth4-Yd3LIFUXCHEylfBOmeSnR2SwyFWZfpa0tNQ2oove6L6wyFK5qYX7V2VJvA=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/b8Hs0i_aKiKU1k1DaQWQO7jKu08wBbZ30QwRQjVK9ncbScRFhqaPBsq7ez-N8PJ_0Hf7e1I1heUHxYszu5QJKUR9DSsBb-3NdPYIku2iJd4YbAy8J5YLFf2LhleVFeGjHh7w-2V0nw=w600-h315-p-k) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/b8Hs0i_aKiKU1k1DaQWQO7jKu08wBbZ30QwRQjVK9ncbScRFhqaPBsq7ez-N8PJ_0Hf7e1I1heUHxYszu5QJKUR9DSsBb-3NdPYIku2iJd4YbAy8J5YLFf2LhleVFeGjHh7w-2V0nw=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on August 10, 2022, 04:12:47 AM: Well if that don't put the tin hat on it :-[ Managed to get the wing onto the silver one to my satisfaction after three attempts (To be fair it was okay after the second, but then I managed to partially break it off so decided to remove it and do the job properly)

Anyway back to my original rant, if I may . . . .just added some rigging which has worked better than expected by taking it very slowly. Now that it's finished I realised that the reason the monofilament looks 'chunky' is that I picked up the wrong line and the stuff I used is twice the thickness of the intended (.12mm rather than .06mm) >:( Buggered if I'm removing it at this stage though. So I'll press on with the final details over the next couple of days and post some pics at the weekend
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on August 11, 2022, 06:26:21 AM: Here's a quick update of the rigging going on . . .

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_8efuxsJV1q1IZ1tY5vnz_2AI4FANJiybYM6n73ek_SWKOn5suEFsL9nYOf3U0KIbjwrNO4MIGYQl6eU_qvFjv6H21g5SS5q-7g9qHngC-uZ7tArGT0hBzwampgrmbbsJu7nbxQ8hg=w600-h315-p-k) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_8efuxsJV1q1IZ1tY5vnz_2AI4FANJiybYM6n73ek_SWKOn5suEFsL9nYOf3U0KIbjwrNO4MIGYQl6eU_qvFjv6H21g5SS5q-7g9qHngC-uZ7tArGT0hBzwampgrmbbsJu7nbxQ8hg=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)

Leaving us with a hairy bipe ;D

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pPzsp3kVCueCOByRDXnG_CRPMaxq7_HHsv-6vRqQAfH_6DDjYpxb36xmoLlVkKGyUkl-RouuqyZGuiRAltoJz6wGv0tze3DKRB38Ai7_tW_fQIVnNtlX9KjHKIuyJcv-uvJY_lOO6A=w600-h315-p-k) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pPzsp3kVCueCOByRDXnG_CRPMaxq7_HHsv-6vRqQAfH_6DDjYpxb36xmoLlVkKGyUkl-RouuqyZGuiRAltoJz6wGv0tze3DKRB38Ai7_tW_fQIVnNtlX9KjHKIuyJcv-uvJY_lOO6A=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)

Finally here's the first stages of the pilots for these two wee beasties ready to be hacked about

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/KY9iESRLsZNx9ze9361VHuxIcdp780rRmlVYD9kIR7uIBhCzzTSXfhcr02IVpD4RnRzqpsnNZVry_jx9chN8t2zTLyPfLlAD04b385hWoBJ0n7ZolISAmdb1iQ-uaZTe_Cj_JnS66g=w600-h315-p-k) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/KY9iESRLsZNx9ze9361VHuxIcdp780rRmlVYD9kIR7uIBhCzzTSXfhcr02IVpD4RnRzqpsnNZVry_jx9chN8t2zTLyPfLlAD04b385hWoBJ0n7ZolISAmdb1iQ-uaZTe_Cj_JnS66g=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: RAGIII on August 11, 2022, 07:19:55 AM: Great to see a wing mounted and I look forward to more on those fugures!
RAGIII
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: WD on August 14, 2022, 09:23:47 AM: Looking wonderful!

WD
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on August 14, 2022, 06:31:28 PM: Quote from: WD on August 14, 2022, 09:23:47 AM
Looking wonderful!

WD

Thanks WD ;D

Quote from: RAGIII on August 11, 2022, 07:19:55 AM
Great to see a wing mounted and I look forward to more on those fugures!
RAGIII

Cheers RagIII (I'm looking forward to seeing them myself) ;)

Here's the TaDa moment. I'll post a couple of other pics on the finished thread later

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/HUlzjUV7mG-mcBMGWBZm-gsUP3oPrvrbL2TR_zWoSSkmpdyDvCcVZcguaihxwihpEsWh2RQ0s_q_wbCVMyHMb9WYqYpM6bE-aOEh-oJxXL0AErtqrmTeqLFaAVM7CMDDYGTAVKOWaQ=w600-h315-p-k) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/HUlzjUV7mG-mcBMGWBZm-gsUP3oPrvrbL2TR_zWoSSkmpdyDvCcVZcguaihxwihpEsWh2RQ0s_q_wbCVMyHMb9WYqYpM6bE-aOEh-oJxXL0AErtqrmTeqLFaAVM7CMDDYGTAVKOWaQ=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/zeteo56Rnj2Hg7-Iv5BRYyQWPfop4Em1j2V2tRQqaiq7B30WmvUVLtLKh6X7rRosp09sLwXsZF2D5_jWC3AQxS1JnbEk4AYKesK_y48tUwg9uqqGM08fbiGl0tv3KRotU27OkQO0qw=w600-h315-p-k) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/zeteo56Rnj2Hg7-Iv5BRYyQWPfop4Em1j2V2tRQqaiq7B30WmvUVLtLKh6X7rRosp09sLwXsZF2D5_jWC3AQxS1JnbEk4AYKesK_y48tUwg9uqqGM08fbiGl0tv3KRotU27OkQO0qw=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tKVMlZaQD0Iu6Zx0tojzZ_ftjhqSFg0pqwolUe0fIIV0GgJ1lML6bfDnYHa_M9vmcoK_Vjhld0jgLaf8OXxLqz7ig2VpA9usjOrFhLX0wLHV01RaX8SAeolz2um--UO3HWu-R-Mh6w=w600-h315-p-k) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tKVMlZaQD0Iu6Zx0tojzZ_ftjhqSFg0pqwolUe0fIIV0GgJ1lML6bfDnYHa_M9vmcoK_Vjhld0jgLaf8OXxLqz7ig2VpA9usjOrFhLX0wLHV01RaX8SAeolz2um--UO3HWu-R-Mh6w=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: andonio64 on August 14, 2022, 07:47:49 PM: Beautiful!
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: FAf on August 14, 2022, 09:10:43 PM: Fascinating to see how small it is compared to your hand (I'm guessing you have normal sized hands :) ), because the first picture really doesn't show it to small at all. Well built!
/Fredrik
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on August 14, 2022, 10:13:41 PM: Quote from: andonio64 on August 14, 2022, 07:47:49 PM
Beautiful!

Thanks Andonio64 ;D

Quote from: FAf on August 14, 2022, 09:10:43 PM
Fascinating to see how small it is compared to your hand (I'm guessing you have normal sized hands :) ), because the first picture really doesn't show it to small at all. Well built!
/Fredrik

Cheers Fredrik ;D
Yep normal sized hands, but it is a bit of a tiddler.

Funny the drawings in the Datafile look okay, but when you have a strut which is only 6 or 7 mm long and it pings off somewhere into the depths of the room you re-assess slightly ;D ::)

Paul
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: RAGIII on August 14, 2022, 11:46:12 PM: That is a Lovely Little Nieuport! I Look forward to more photos in the Completed thread!
RAGIII
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: pepperman42 on August 21, 2022, 10:18:44 PM: Nice! Such tiny butterflies!!

Steve
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: WD on August 31, 2022, 01:29:29 AM: Still waiting for the other one to hatch out.

Any progress?

WD
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on August 31, 2022, 02:10:11 AM: Thanks guys :D

Nearly there WD. Been working on the rigging so just the touching up and top mounted Lewis to sort out (My dog died a couple of weeks ago so haven't felt much like doing anything really. Just starting to do a bit more modelling now)

Paul
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: Tim Mixon on August 31, 2022, 09:42:42 PM: Brilliant work on those Nieuports. Nice idea wrapping the engine cylinders. Did you saw them off , wrap , and then reapply? The clear tape looks great.
Very sorry to hear about your dog. Nothing but time will heal that void. Just reflect on the joy he/she brought while you were together!
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on September 01, 2022, 12:00:46 AM: Quote from: Tim Mixon on August 31, 2022, 09:42:42 PM
Brilliant work on those Nieuports. Nice idea wrapping the engine cylinders. Did you saw them off , wrap , and then reapply?

Thanks Tim

Nothing so complicated with the cylinders I'm afraid. ::)
I glued the start end to the backplate temporarily then wrapped each cylinder in situ from base to head. Added some thin superglue after getting to the cylinder top, waited for a bit then cut off the excess ;)

Paul
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on September 04, 2022, 08:05:40 PM: Here's the TaDa! moment for anyone reading ;D

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/JOvXbWJX5vtQz27Oa5QfNOVHGzk1pCxAn9Oc7pI_4QdCBldFH1fTlFNQUpMg6sY7OJQbyPLV5xTRf4mtSs9W4BOlqJ93wOTQ1NUGb_h9CH_6Yc_HkGdq0ZjCI-YpkCjGc1X6OacIUQ=w600-h315-p-k) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/JOvXbWJX5vtQz27Oa5QfNOVHGzk1pCxAn9Oc7pI_4QdCBldFH1fTlFNQUpMg6sY7OJQbyPLV5xTRf4mtSs9W4BOlqJ93wOTQ1NUGb_h9CH_6Yc_HkGdq0ZjCI-YpkCjGc1X6OacIUQ=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/cyAEO4vmiAjdLX9XB-0w7pONPGRTZYjwe3Fqfn9ksJehJ314LF_vuMVdBoqVw6Sm913ndj_jG0c0T6-2dL6Rj7-p7jvRtQsrcPQHoCXl5_959cbexKgoL_U985DFsaK12DNsgMhv6Q=w600-h315-p-k) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/cyAEO4vmiAjdLX9XB-0w7pONPGRTZYjwe3Fqfn9ksJehJ314LF_vuMVdBoqVw6Sm913ndj_jG0c0T6-2dL6Rj7-p7jvRtQsrcPQHoCXl5_959cbexKgoL_U985DFsaK12DNsgMhv6Q=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/fGDILI1Cnxm0LspcSjZbO14sJxnFANHrCRvzB1pwI96FI72kqt0jTqpz4C6HZnv9XbjWDCMuClJ3ctMA3ntfiTSKOyA9ZLV6PUo9pTQQjLQAkleK1OIYDWJoJHXFLOl7Y75fo6HYaA=w600-h315-p-k) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/fGDILI1Cnxm0LspcSjZbO14sJxnFANHrCRvzB1pwI96FI72kqt0jTqpz4C6HZnv9XbjWDCMuClJ3ctMA3ntfiTSKOyA9ZLV6PUo9pTQQjLQAkleK1OIYDWJoJHXFLOl7Y75fo6HYaA=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)

And here it is on it's freshly made base -

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1L5yJhE9OVPvE8ZYQWGOdBXaiSv1IJWWB0k3-HKtrgtJlFnQa6Ipq6s15PeAxVTVvn3A4nFyb2NiFpDaKuWIRigBK9XoizTfnEDy6kj3NCPfK6WGRlzikRLqpbmuVDqHBIdderwotw=w600-h315-p-k) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/1L5yJhE9OVPvE8ZYQWGOdBXaiSv1IJWWB0k3-HKtrgtJlFnQa6Ipq6s15PeAxVTVvn3A4nFyb2NiFpDaKuWIRigBK9XoizTfnEDy6kj3NCPfK6WGRlzikRLqpbmuVDqHBIdderwotw=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Dd7ambyd2XKl9Jgcs2Pustv5WwXaihykTudI8WseKbVdrCe9R7v19FUMT2qODOMHYDZ2Iw7iIbNuz8XG8MOn6qnrkPJQan4SXmm01aBqGhreFCTtXV9OqNx4AFJ6FHyaAGRC5P7hKg=w600-h315-p-k) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Dd7ambyd2XKl9Jgcs2Pustv5WwXaihykTudI8WseKbVdrCe9R7v19FUMT2qODOMHYDZ2Iw7iIbNuz8XG8MOn6qnrkPJQan4SXmm01aBqGhreFCTtXV9OqNx4AFJ6FHyaAGRC5P7hKg=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)

Finally here are the two together on their bases -

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/n6Ny69PWwuYHlik_Hb0RTlyFM6aD52mnL8eZxyvZCnfvVTzgBbLF7rBW_LNMKbcQIqdNV2PH9JAvXdndbyNwINYTOUam0U_uWjX3WT9-fHxVzIgxqoJc1L6h953txHQZGTo9w-lEJQ=w600-h315-p-k) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/n6Ny69PWwuYHlik_Hb0RTlyFM6aD52mnL8eZxyvZCnfvVTzgBbLF7rBW_LNMKbcQIqdNV2PH9JAvXdndbyNwINYTOUam0U_uWjX3WT9-fHxVzIgxqoJc1L6h953txHQZGTo9w-lEJQ=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/S_3Ku-wRypJl1QCmHxgqehv2VeqF7FOmXRlCNSHNdAOwnkCKeW1oQunCHE4JbGwWha48Js_EGMWxslqkErvQDYBiCDP5IEMh8fCpsOjM6_vAIa2SgUAzYbwDxxxTBqXIKPz1jU86lQ=w600-h315-p-k) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/S_3Ku-wRypJl1QCmHxgqehv2VeqF7FOmXRlCNSHNdAOwnkCKeW1oQunCHE4JbGwWha48Js_EGMWxslqkErvQDYBiCDP5IEMh8fCpsOjM6_vAIa2SgUAzYbwDxxxTBqXIKPz1jU86lQ=w2400?source=screenshot.guru)

Still need to add the firing cord from the gun to the cockpit and I had to make a few compromises on the gun cradle which is soldered up from brass jewellery wire. Prop is carved from laminated ply and I've replaced a few of the struts with sanded brass wire to get nearer to scale size without making the whole thing becoming impossible to hold, but lots learned from this pair and it'll be nice to get them in the cabinet alongside the earlier Fokker Tripe :)

Onwards and upwards
Paul

ps - I've got a couple of figures to add to the bases of these at some point, but they are a separate project in themselves
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: Umlaufmotor on September 04, 2022, 10:18:57 PM: Beautiful Nieuports.
Very beautiful work.
I really like the light snowy grassy area.
This looks very convincing with the traces of the wheels.

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: William Adair on September 04, 2022, 10:37:28 PM: Wow! Nicely done!! They look excellent :D
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: macsporran on September 05, 2022, 12:02:30 AM: Lovely work, nicely presented.
Now do some more, there's never too many Nies of this quality!
Sandy
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on September 05, 2022, 12:33:49 AM: Thank you gents

Quote from: Umlaufmotor on September 04, 2022, 10:18:57 PM
Beautiful Nieuports.
Very beautiful work.
I really like the light snowy grassy area.
This looks very convincing with the traces of the wheels.

Servus
Bertl

Made the full landscape with mud, grass etc. first and then dusted with micro balloons for the snow effect Bertl. Wheel tracks were made before the adhesive had set :)

Quote from: macsporran on September 05, 2022, 12:02:30 AM
Lovely work, nicely presented.
Now do some more, there's never too many Nies of this quality!
Sandy

LOL Sandy - you'll be pleased to know there are a couple of kits still on the shelf (Well nearly I have dug one out for a small project) ;)

Paul
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: pepperman42 on September 05, 2022, 01:38:11 AM: Very nice. Like the seasonal change!

Steve
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: Borsos on September 05, 2022, 03:45:31 AM: Fantastic build on these two Nieuports. Especially the one in the snow is very nice!
Andreas
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: Tim Mixon on September 05, 2022, 04:03:33 PM: Great looking pair of Nieuports!
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: Alexis on September 05, 2022, 05:26:08 PM: Very nice indeed , well done sir !

Alexis
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaveB on September 05, 2022, 06:27:09 PM: Oh, brilliant!

Great stuff

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on September 05, 2022, 06:38:23 PM: Thanks guys

Lovely kit to start with really makes life easier. Although they are pretty small I just can't resist a bargain and the dual combo kits go for a pittance given the quality of the moulding and the many schemes possible (Which is just as well given my rate of breaking the teeny parts) ::)

Had some issues with the rigging which I think I'm starting to get the hang of, but we'll see. Ordered some new superglue to see if that helps

Paul
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: WD on September 07, 2022, 04:01:27 AM: Beautiful work Paul! I hope mine turn out half as well.

WD
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: Mark Newton on September 15, 2022, 06:44:21 PM: Paul, your Nieuports turned out very nicely.

All the best,

Mark.
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: andonio64 on September 15, 2022, 08:04:48 PM: Two flying beauties!
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on September 15, 2022, 10:08:00 PM: Thanks folks appreciate the comments

Paul

ps
Nieuport addicts fear not there might be another surprise appearing soon. . . . ;)
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: RAGIII on September 23, 2022, 05:29:05 AM: Lovely results....On both!! I really enjoyed following your processes!
RAGIII
Title: Re: A second attempt at a Nieuport
Post by: DaddyO on September 23, 2022, 05:30:49 AM: Quote from: RAGIII on September 23, 2022, 05:29:05 AM
Lovely results....On both!! I really enjoyed following your processes!
RAGIII

Cheers RAGIII ;D