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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Hints and Tips/Questions about modeling => Topic started by: bobs_buckles on July 29, 2014, 09:15:22 PM

Title: ZAK Crown
Post by: bobs_buckles on July 29, 2014, 09:15:22 PM

Hi all,
 Looking for a decent image of the Zak crown, can anyone help?

Cheers,
Bob   ;)

Title: Re: ZAK Crown
Post by: Ernie on July 29, 2014, 09:58:54 PM

Von Bob, If I knew when he reigned I may be able to tell you where he left it. ;) :D...I'll get my coat. ::)
What in heaven's name is it? ???

Cheers,
Ernie :)

Title: Re: ZAK Crown
Post by: Des on July 29, 2014, 10:05:48 PM

Please excuse my ignorance Bob but I go along with Ernie - what is it ??????

A confused Des  ??? ??? :-\

Title: Re: ZAK Crown
Post by: uncletony on July 29, 2014, 10:15:29 PM

Quote from: bobs_buckles on July 29, 2014, 09:15:22 PM

Hi all,
 Looking for a decent image of the Zak crown, can anyone help?

Cheers,
Bob   ;)

He's talking about the logo for the German inspectorate

Not great but you can kind of sort of make it out here:

http://s818.photobucket.com/user/mc65-1/media/Dr%20I/Schermata2013-11-22a232221_zpse7702150.png.html

Title: Re: ZAK Crown
Post by: bobs_buckles on July 29, 2014, 10:31:29 PM

Bo = Bingo!  ;D

I will try to draw one from scratch. Not ideal, but what else is a man to do?!  :o

Cheers,
 King Von Zak

Title: Re: ZAK Crown
Post by: IvotB on July 29, 2014, 11:38:53 PM

The crown will probably be based on the crown of the german Kaiser, but will just be small graphic. I suppose you could draw it based on the crown itself. Something like this:

http://www.haus-preussen.de/

Depending on the angle you are looking at it, it will have 3 or 4 parts, if you understand me  ;)

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Replica_of_Crown_of_Wilhelm_II_003.jpg

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6084352 (scroll down)

Hope you'll find something you're looking for. Not the real ZAK crown though, but a few hints.

regards,
Ivo

Title: Re: ZAK Crown
Post by: uncletony on July 30, 2014, 12:26:50 AM

I'm sure there is a good image of the crown and stamp out there somewhere... I'll be on the lookout

Title: Re: ZAK Crown
Post by: bobs_buckles on July 30, 2014, 01:12:02 AM

Here is my scratch drawn elementary effort  :o

(http://i1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii626/d4rkgimp/Zak_zps620da45b.jpg)

I'm hoping to cut out the crown with my vinyl cutter - I will let you know how it goes.

VB

Title: Re: ZAK Crown
Post by: stefanbuss on July 30, 2014, 02:53:10 AM

Why not contacting the team at TVAL? Their replicas should be fitted with ZAK stamp replicas, methinks.

Stefan

Title: Re: ZAK Crown
Post by: uncletony on July 30, 2014, 05:16:27 AM

ZAK = Zentral Abnahme Kommission = Cental Acceptance Commission, a division of Idflieg

not a ZAK stamp but you can make out the imperial crown pretty well here in this bayonet stamp:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v709/Vaarok/3proof.jpg)

Title: Re: ZAK Crown
Post by: bobs_buckles on July 30, 2014, 05:34:44 AM

Thanks for the input, guys  ;)
vB

Title: Re: ZAK Crown
Post by: uncletony on July 30, 2014, 07:19:34 AM

Here ya go ... ZAK stamp from Knowlton Fokker

(http://www.wwi-models.org/Photos/Ger/Fok_DVII/other/Brome/wing__lower__upper_surface__port_side__near_cockpit__step.jpg)

Title: Re: ZAK Crown
Post by: bobs_buckles on July 30, 2014, 03:26:16 PM

Excellent detective work, Bo! Cheers!!
Now can someone go take a macro shot for me? lol!

 :) ;) :D
vB

Title: Re: ZAK Crown
Post by: bobs_buckles on July 31, 2014, 07:48:11 PM

This is as good as I get!
 ;) ;) ;) ;)

Title: Re: ZAK Crown
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on August 01, 2014, 12:58:50 PM

bobbo , i coulda swore you did a 1/32 fokker dr.1 several years back with the inspection window cut out and a hand made decal or some such on the spar. i thought it was you, i remember being impressed as it was the first time i saw someone go there so to speak.

Title: Re: ZAK Crown
Post by: bobs_buckles on August 01, 2014, 03:07:37 PM

Hi Scott,
 That was me!
I still have the AI file (adobe Illustrator) with the Zak code and crown, but being as the crown only needed to be a collection of shapes for such a small decal, it lacked the finesse to upscale for cutting.

I'm happy with my latest effort. I will use it on one of my bases in the distant future  ;)

Cheers,
Vb

(http://www.bobsbuckles.co.uk/FokDr.1/spar.jpg)

Title: Re: ZAK Crown
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on August 01, 2014, 03:58:10 PM

ah yea i thought so, that was years ago, i remember thinking wow, bvb is really going the extra mile for some sweet detail.i had never seen anyone do that before, you may be the first. so do i understand right, are you going to produce a stencil? or just detail another dr.1? coicidentally i am 90% done on a roden 1/32 build and i had not figured out what to do with that situation yet. i copied you by cutting the window out and i woodgrained the spar but i have not as yet figured out how to do the crown zak logo or the serial number(part number?) on the spar. if you decide to market this i am your first customer as i need one now.

Title: Re: ZAK Crown
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on August 01, 2014, 04:01:52 PM

i just reread your post. so you are going to make a stencil for a base for a plane to sit on? or do you play the bass and are going to add the graphic to your 4 string. lol

Title: Re: ZAK Crown
Post by: bobs_buckles on August 01, 2014, 10:50:37 PM

Hi Scott,
 I wish I had a musical bone in my body, but alas, I am tone deaf!
The decal is for a base for which a German scout will reside.

Scott, give me the Spar serial number for your DR.1. I still have the file on record and I'm happy to create one for you.
Cheers,
BvB   ;)

Title: Re: ZAK Crown
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on August 02, 2014, 02:59:44 PM

that would be swell bob. let me check into that. i did lt. hans korners  jasta 19 tripe with the big white zig zag and yellow and black striped tail. will send pm.