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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: xan on May 13, 2018, 05:29:56 AM

Title: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: xan on May 13, 2018, 05:29:56 AM: Hello everybody!
This is my new project:

(http://www.poncelet.eu/uploads/pics/communique_aviatik1.png)
http://www.poncelet.eu/fr/aviation/actualites/poncelet-fait-revoler-l-aviatik-c1/ (http://www.poncelet.eu/fr/aviation/actualites/poncelet-fait-revoler-l-aviatik-c1/)

The Aviatik C.1

It is Cpper state models "old fashion"....

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/10//18051012540723469215706255.jpg)

present all the model would be boring, you and I will discovered it by the way..
some pics to situate the model...

Well I couldn't say I didn't know
(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/10//18051012540723469215706256.jpg) (https://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=18051012540723469215706256.jpg)
indeed...
(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/10//18051012540723469215706257.jpg)

the fuselage:

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/10//18051012540823469215706258.jpg)

So 5 part for the fuselage , good start...
the engine is quite well detailed as all the little parts...

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/10//18051012540823469215706259.jpg)

Oh! and I didn't present you the instruction book because there is not...

recreate the puzzle is part of the game!

This time i will not be able to protest, I perfectly now where i put my feets...
but I do believe the result will be quite interesting.

Xan
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: Juan on May 13, 2018, 06:15:54 AM: Super interesting subject. Not for mere humans, but your skill is not of this world. Looking forward to your progress and usual masterful work.
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: coyotemagic on May 13, 2018, 07:38:03 AM: Awesome, Xan! What an exciting project! I've been considering doing this or the Lohner or the AEG next, since these will be among those kits re-done in plastic by CSM. Since you're starting this one, I'll probably do the AEG.
Really looking forward to following this build, mon ami!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: GazzaS on May 13, 2018, 08:31:43 AM: Awesome project! I look forward to your progress.

Gaz
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: xan on May 13, 2018, 05:18:55 PM: Project is started!
(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/10//18051010130723469215706422.jpg)
the lower part of the fuselage have now the right form

first problem: a wing is smaller than the other !

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/12//18051204580523469215709610.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/12//18051204580523469215709609.jpg)

Anyway i put two metalic part (two pins thin and strong)to fix the wings

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/12//18051209483423469215710060.jpg)

then I started building the fuselage...

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/12//18051209483423469215710062.jpg)
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: gbrivio on May 13, 2018, 06:13:33 PM: Great start, this kit is surely in the right hands. Following.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on May 14, 2018, 08:32:47 AM: You have made a great start as always! Looking forward to following your build.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: GazzaS on May 15, 2018, 06:25:12 AM: Impressive!
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: GAJouette on May 15, 2018, 08:22:33 AM: Xan,
You're off to a great start my old friend. Looking forward to following along.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette

PS: Love your choice of kit for this new project.
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: xan on May 16, 2018, 07:08:48 AM: Hi, I started painting the interior:

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/14//18051412065523469215711630.jpg)

Xan
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on May 16, 2018, 08:21:01 AM: The painting and rigging look fantastic.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: GAJouette on May 16, 2018, 10:52:53 AM: Xan,
Your interior painting and rigging look great my old friend. What do you use for the rigging? It looks perfect.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: GazzaS on May 17, 2018, 04:52:16 PM: Sweet!
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: xan on May 18, 2018, 10:15:21 PM: Greg, they are made with plastic stretshed.

Well work is done (or almost done)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/15//18051510332923469215714225.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/15//18051510455123469215714243.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/15//18051510332923469215714226.jpg)

(https://scontent.fbio1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32738538_413472125788327_6550408644951801856_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=3cf4197cccdbcff7ccf31003fc697fc4&oe=5B8FEDA4)

it needs more surfacer , but i haven't any more, and i commanded it...
then i will re-etch the ribbs...

Xan
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on May 18, 2018, 10:40:39 PM: Outstanding work on the correction to the wings!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: Ssasho0 on May 18, 2018, 10:58:55 PM: excellent correction of the wign, good job!
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: coyotemagic on May 19, 2018, 01:36:54 AM: Outstanding work on the wing fix! I knew this wouldn't slow you down.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: xan on May 28, 2018, 08:19:03 AM: interior is almost done.

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/22//18052211285423469215724570.jpg)

poor the observer between two 100l gazoil tanks and the engine...

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/22//18052211373123469215724585.jpg)
i did the seat again with PE
the two tubes are bomb launch (two 10kg bombs)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/22//18052211415823469215724593.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/22//18052211285523469215724571.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/22//18052211301523469215724572.jpg)

Xan
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: coyotemagic on May 28, 2018, 09:42:28 AM: Xan, mon cher ami, vous êtes un maître!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on May 28, 2018, 09:31:35 PM: Quote from: coyotemagic on May 28, 2018, 09:42:28 AM
Xan, mon cher ami, vous êtes un maître!
Cheers,
Bud

I don't know what he said but I would most likely agree 8) Beautiful interior! The observer certainly sat in a precarious position!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: Edgar on May 28, 2018, 10:38:46 PM: Quote from: RAGIII on May 28, 2018, 09:31:35 PM
The observer certainly sat in a precarious position!
RAGIII

He had a very strong motivation to defend the plane by any means or else....
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: coyotemagic on May 29, 2018, 03:13:15 AM: Hi, Edgar! So glad to see that you found this beauty and are following along.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: xan on May 29, 2018, 04:42:34 PM: 3 sides of the fuselage are asembled:

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/28//18052812175723469215732711.jpg)

I had to enlarge the upper part of the fuselage. It has been quite hot because cyano glue doesn't apreciate torsions at all...
Well it is done now, but anyway, putty and sand paper will be use...

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/28//18052812175823469215732712.jpg)

Xan
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: GazzaS on May 29, 2018, 06:38:58 PM: Looks great, Xan!

Gaz
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on May 29, 2018, 07:36:44 PM: Excellent!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: xan on June 04, 2018, 09:52:43 PM: (https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/05/28//18052811265523469215734673.jpg)
al have been erase to rebuilt the noise
(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/06/02//18060201323623469215742005.jpg)
This picture taken from the fond Valois
50 000 WWI pics available there
https://argonnaute.parisnanterre.fr/search?query=aviatik&search-query=&search-query=1 (https://argonnaute.parisnanterre.fr/search?query=aviatik&search-query=&search-query=1)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/06/02//18060201323623469215742004.jpg)

it is time to play with surfacer and sand paper

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/06/02//18060201323723469215742006.jpg)

Xan
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: xan on June 07, 2018, 07:05:16 AM: Hello!

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/06/05//18060512325223469215746567.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/06/05//18060512325323469215746568.jpg)

there is almost work to be done rivet etc, but it has quite a good loocking i think...

here is what it had to loock like...

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/06/02//18060201323623469215742004.jpg)

Xan
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on June 07, 2018, 07:14:17 AM: Your filling and sanding, added panels etc. are making this one look terrific!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: Juan on June 07, 2018, 07:46:41 AM: Outstanding detailing Xan. Looking great throughout.
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: pepperman42 on June 07, 2018, 09:35:25 PM: Just catching up. Great work!!

Steve
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: andonio64 on June 07, 2018, 11:15:54 PM: Wow Xan, it's always a pleasure to look at your works!

Antonio
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: GazzaS on June 08, 2018, 03:36:55 PM: Nice!
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: xan on June 18, 2018, 08:57:37 PM: Hi it is the tail turn...
upper part of the fuselage was too short 'or fuselage too long as you like)
I add a plastic card piece, and all feets allright

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/06/16//18061609382723469215764419.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/06/16//18061609382723469215764418.jpg)

finaly::
(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/06/16//18061609382723469215764420.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/06/16//18061609382823469215764422.jpg)

surfacer added abd tail is ended...

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/06/16//18061609382823469215764423.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/06/16//18061609382823469215764424.jpg)

Xan
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on June 18, 2018, 10:48:15 PM: As always terrific work on fixing the tail/fuselage length!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: andonio64 on June 18, 2018, 10:54:25 PM: OMG!
:-0
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: GazzaS on June 19, 2018, 07:05:02 AM: VEry nice, Xan!
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: gbrivio on June 19, 2018, 01:48:36 PM: Terrific updates, it's really a great work. Congratulations.
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: pepperman42 on June 22, 2018, 12:17:28 AM: Amazing progress

Steve
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: xan on July 03, 2018, 06:21:28 AM: Thank you all!

we went on

(https://nsa39.casimages.com/img/2018/06/28/180628034807384741.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/06/28//18062806325523469215783892.jpg)

Then back to the wings.

(https://nsa39.casimages.com/img/2018/06/28/18062804201040667.jpg) (https://www.casimages.com/i/18062804201040667.jpg.html)

(https://nsa39.casimages.com/img/2018/06/28/180628035643205592.jpg)

(https://nsa39.casimages.com/img/2018/06/28/180628035731350465.jpg)

(https://nsa39.casimages.com/img/2018/06/28/180628035914743780.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/06/28//18062806373423469215783896.jpg)

(https://nsa39.casimages.com/img/2018/06/28/180628041507487025.jpg)

Xan
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: GazzaS on July 03, 2018, 09:16:37 AM: Very nice, Xan! Inspiring work.

Gaz
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: coyotemagic on July 03, 2018, 10:02:36 AM: Stunning work, Xan! Considering the challenges, your moving right along.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: Manni on July 03, 2018, 02:40:43 PM: Wow, Xan. Your skills are extraordinary!
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on July 03, 2018, 11:41:37 PM: Outstanding details. Each update is better than the last!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: xan on July 18, 2018, 01:52:54 AM: As I say before nothing to represent the landing gear...
so we have to work with the drawing and this picture

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/07/07//18070701081823469215796091.jpg)

To scratch the landing gear I use "aeroclub" product wich get the work easyer...

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/07/07//18070701081723469215796088.jpg)

et hop!

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/07/07//18070701081723469215796089.jpg)

quite happy, i was thinking to mount the upper wing , wich had to be a formality , when....

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/07/07//18070701081723469215796090.jpg)

As the other wing , left upper wing is smaller than the right one...
Back to basic work...

Xan
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on July 18, 2018, 03:48:58 AM: Really nice work on the gear! WOW, one wonders how that wing was molded/ cast so off! I am sure you will sort things out!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on July 18, 2018, 04:13:23 AM: Xan, what a great build! Plastic or resin - you are the real master in that scale!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: xan on July 19, 2018, 11:13:31 PM: Done!

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/07/18//18071809430323469215811757.jpg)(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/07/18//18071809430323469215811758.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/07/18//18071809430523469215811759.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/07/18//18071809430623469215811760.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/07/18//18071809430623469215811761.jpg)

Xan
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on July 19, 2018, 11:21:14 PM: Brilliant work on fixing the difference in the wing profiles.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: Juan on July 19, 2018, 11:39:25 PM: Beautiful work all-around and especially fixing those little discrepancies (I know who to call if I need surgery).
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: xan on July 30, 2018, 11:21:08 PM: time to paint...
first af all a white coat with tamiyas stripes

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/07/28//18072812035023469215825214.jpg)

Then a mix of gunze H338 (very light grey) et a littlle bit od H45 (blue)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/07/28//18072812035023469215825215.jpg)

then a very diluated coast of white:

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/07/28//18072811582223469215825207.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/07/28//18072811582223469215825206.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/07/28//18072811582323469215825208.jpg)

I work with blueish colors because I wanted to do contrast in white fabric without give a dirtyness impression.
mus and weathering will come later..

Xan
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: coyotemagic on July 31, 2018, 12:55:19 AM: Très beau, mon ami! I love the structure of the Aviatik. Makes me want to build mine.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on July 31, 2018, 11:40:46 AM: Gorgeous! Excellent beginning to the painting process!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: xan on August 21, 2018, 04:40:03 PM: Hi everybody!
Aviatik's some news...
downside now.
I started with a grey base, and after the never ending taping work i get that (using Tamiya's XF-52 dark earth)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/08/06//18080609082423469215836389.jpg)

I choose this decoration :

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/08/06//18080609082423469215836390.jpg)

This picture is taken in March of 1916 during the somme battle.
I like those early aviatik because they were the cross in the top of the wings.

I will perhaps use this to represent the dragon cavalier...
(https://exito.sklep.pl/environment/cache/images/500_500_productGfx_257665782da816958b776b91ea2b32c0.jpg)

My first malta crosses!

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/08/06//18080609082323469215836388.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/08/06//18080609082423469215836391.jpg)

just after I did this work I discovered a new picture of this plane.

just to see that the crosses in downside were not in the top of the wings...
I decided not to correct this error, too much work!

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/08/06//18080605112223469215836969.jpg)

Then I went on with the radiator.
Most of Aviatik C.1 had the radiator up on the engine , just under the wing

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/08/20//18082009104323469215854881.jpg)

But as we can see in this pic, it is not the plane I represent case. Early Aviatik were equiped with "Hazet" Radiator in both side of the fuselage.

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/08/20//18082009104323469215854882.jpg)

I had to scratch it

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/08/20//18082009104323469215854883.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/08/20//18082009104323469215854884.jpg)

Here is final result:

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/08/20//18082009104423469215854886.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/08/20//18082009104423469215854885.jpg)

Xan
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: coyotemagic on August 22, 2018, 01:25:55 AM: I love the modifications you're doing on this little beauty, backdating it to the earlier version. The radiator looks fantastic!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: Juan on August 22, 2018, 01:41:24 AM: Truly outstanding Xan, she is looking beautiful.
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: Manni on August 22, 2018, 04:13:08 PM: Wow, Xan a really clever idea to use the blisters for the cooler. Great. THe complete build is very good.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: pepperman42 on August 30, 2018, 01:53:52 AM: amazing corrections and details!!

Steve
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: ondra on August 30, 2018, 02:11:11 AM: Somehow I missed this build, Xan, which obviously was a big mistake.

Very nice and inspirative work with all the specials added, well done!

Cheers

Ondra
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: xan on August 30, 2018, 06:44:48 PM: All the things around the cockpit are in place

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/08/28//18082807374323469215866812.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/08/28//18082807374323469215866811.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/08/28//18082807374323469215866813.jpg)

Xan
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: Borsos on August 31, 2018, 01:32:50 AM: This is going to be a wonderfull modell. I am keen on seeing it finished.
Andreas
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: PrzemoL on August 31, 2018, 06:54:30 PM: You are building another gem, Xan. I like your work very much, from research, detailing, modifications to the delicate spot-on paint finish. A pleasure to behold!
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: Gene K on September 01, 2018, 01:25:57 AM: Wonderful thread - thank you much!! In particular, thanks for the link to the Paris digital library https://argonnaute.parisnanterre.fr (https://argonnaute.parisnanterre.fr)- what a treasure chest.

As much as I admire your work, I'm disappointed in the many shortcomings of the CS resin.

Gene K
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: Borsos on September 01, 2018, 01:52:13 AM: Quote from: Gene K on September 01, 2018, 01:25:57 AM
Wonderful thread - thank you much!! In particular, thanks for the link to the Paris digital library https://argonnaute.parisnanterre.fr (https://argonnaute.parisnanterre.fr)- what a treasure chest.

As much as I admire your work, I'm disappointed in the many shortcomings of the CS resin.

Gene K

As true as it is we shouldn't forget that this is an old, oop CSM resin kit that was produced when Copper State Models still had their location in Texas and was run by totally different people. It has nothing to do with the today's strandards of Copper State Models...
Andreas
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: coyotemagic on September 01, 2018, 02:20:03 AM: Quote from: Borsos on September 01, 2018, 01:52:13 AM
Quote from: Gene K on September 01, 2018, 01:25:57 AM
Wonderful thread - thank you much!! In particular, thanks for the link to the Paris digital library https://argonnaute.parisnanterre.fr (https://argonnaute.parisnanterre.fr)- what a treasure chest.

As much as I admire your work, I'm disappointed in the many shortcomings of the CS resin.

Gene K

As true as it is we shouldn't forget that this is an old, oop CSM resin kit that was produced when Copper State Models still had their location in Texas and was run by totally different people. It has nothing to do with the today's strandards of Copper State Models...
Andreas

Exactly! This was one of Eric Hight's early kits and for the time, was pretty good. It has no more in common with today's CSM than Merlin has with WNW.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: xan on October 26, 2018, 01:49:52 AM: Hi ,
there is a while i didn't post anything...
Meanwhile a learn the picture plane was not en early aviatic C1 as I thought , but an Aviatic BII...
the principal change is the engines but BII was not armed and there is a few diferences in the ringing.
Other consequence, the diorama i thought with those figs is no more possible...

(https://www.scalemates.com/products/img/7/5/8/1087758-15654-31-pristine.jpg)

So i will return to the first idea with one of the dragons who appears in the picture...

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/08/20//18082009104323469215854882.jpg)

I will use a 1939 Polosh cavalry and this head a figurinist friend of mine did for me (thanks Aitor!)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/10/10//18101011420223469215936063.jpg)

(https://scontent.fbio1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/44500813_1866309563482288_8633561065906503680_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.fbio1-1.fna&oh=c1ae08c3b67d0778069ad0bb743d83e0&oe=5C44D45F)

This picture give quite informations.

1) I change my minfd about the wooden stick i painted ? i think they are more surely black.
i use a plotter and cit 0.5mm tires in black chaterton...

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/08/28//18082807374323469215866813.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/10/22//18102203400323469215956839.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/10/22//18102203400323469215956840.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/10/22//18102203400323469215956841.jpg)

2) the tire are light grey... but I can touch the wheels so i will let them in black...

3) there is a electricity generator in the undercarriage.
i will use the G4 one.

4) the propeler is a Reschke (thank you andreas).

(https://2img.net/h/i10.photobucket.com/albums/a108/Gregvan/Reschke%20ad_zpsnkfjn7v0.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/10/22//18102203435123469215956846.jpg)

i find in the net an Albatross BII propeler wich have the same engine than the aviatic BII, props were surely the same.

(https://cdn.globalauctionplatform.com/a0d714ad-8f09-447b-8703-a5f3010002b4/bb8baa25-b26c-429c-962d-350d474d8a8a/540x360.jpg)

with a little help from Paint:

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/10/22//18102203435123469215956847.jpg)

i will try to do it in wood, we will speak about that later....
and last thing I dirted the radiator and engine panel; even if pics show them cleaner it perlit to integrate them better in the model...

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/10/25//18102510512623469215961544.jpg)

Right now I am working on the wings...

See you soon

Xan
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: Ryan on October 26, 2018, 03:06:32 AM: Fine looking machine XAN.

Ryan
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: dr 1 ace on October 26, 2018, 06:17:25 AM: Moving along very nicely !!!!

Ed
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: lcarroll on October 26, 2018, 08:31:27 AM: Great update Xan, it's really looking good and almost completed. It's too bad that you have to change plans for the Diorama but your new plan looks good. Great weathering overall but particularly on the under surfaces. I like the effect, it's a very nice model. 8) 8)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on October 27, 2018, 08:17:29 AM: ooking outstanding ! Your work is always top notch!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: pepperman42 on October 29, 2018, 11:51:14 PM: Great balance of just enough weathering on white.

Steve
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: xan on November 03, 2018, 09:22:31 PM: (https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/11/03//18110312155223469215978239.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2018/11/03//18110309355123469215978374.jpg)

Xan
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: coyotemagic on November 04, 2018, 10:25:05 AM: She's truly stunning, Xan! The painting and weathering are beyond compare. Can't wait to see her rigged.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on November 04, 2018, 11:46:17 AM: Quote from: coyotemagic on November 04, 2018, 10:25:05 AM
She's truly stunning, Xan! The painting and weathering are beyond compare. Can't wait to see her rigged.
Cheers,
Bud

I Agree with my Amigo 100%
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: xan on November 05, 2018, 06:46:24 PM: thanks friends!
ringing cession...
(https://nsa39.casimages.com/img/2018/11/05/181105094048296920.jpg)

Xan
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: Manni on November 05, 2018, 08:12:04 PM: Xan! This is really a very eye-pleasing model. It looks fantasic. I like most the big crosses on the top wing.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on November 06, 2018, 12:09:57 AM: Excellent beginning on the rigging. I am looking forward to the finished project!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: xan on November 06, 2018, 06:34:28 AM: Ringing done!

(https://nsa39.casimages.com/img/2018/11/05/181105093055675279.jpg)

Xan
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on November 06, 2018, 07:24:08 AM: DROP DEAD GORGEOUS!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: Borsos on November 07, 2018, 07:08:25 AM: Very nice, Xan. That one will be another jewel. How is the prop carving going on?
Best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on November 09, 2018, 07:15:08 AM: Wow, again a nice looking biplane, as usual from your workbench!
Thanks for showing your nice little tricks.

Quote from: Borsos on November 07, 2018, 07:08:25 AM
How is the prop carving going on?
I'm also interested but I'm sure Xan will manage it!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: xan on March 08, 2019, 02:50:51 PM: Hi friends!

It has been a long wile since I post last message ...
The reason has been quite simple: 30 after the mast picture posted on 6 of november there was another one i didn't post here:

(https://nsa39.casimages.com/img/2018/11/06/181106091838884884.jpg)

so i put all in a box, and did another mount (the ni-17) and wait for better times...

The kit was surely cursed and i manage to drop the boox again!!!

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/01/28//19012810172423469216096734.jpg)

In Basque Country, tenacity is a main value ;-)
So i started again; it was no more kit building but restauration!

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/01/28//19012810172423469216096733.jpg)

Rebuiding steps can be seen here:
http://1914.forumactif.com/t115p125-aviatik-b-ii-copper-state-models-1-48 (http://1914.forumactif.com/t115p125-aviatik-b-ii-copper-state-models-1-48)
Anyway here we are now:

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/03/07//19030711553323469216149849.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/03/07//19030711553323469216149851.jpg)

Show must go on!

next step will be now to give this model a real wooden propeler. First time for me!

Xan
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: coyotemagic on March 08, 2019, 03:03:05 PM: Truly magnificent work, Xan! I'm so glad you didn't give up on this beauty. She's going to be a true masterpiece.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: GAJouette on March 08, 2019, 03:22:29 PM: Xan,
Beautiful still my old friend. I'm glad to see this gem saved. Congratulation and Well Done.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: Manni on March 08, 2019, 04:46:44 PM: Good to see that bird is able to fly again. Hats off for your patience to restorate the mess.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: andonio64 on March 08, 2019, 06:05:48 PM: Xan, what a pity, two accidents are too much!!!
By the way you are (as usual) making a great job in recovering the model, and if possible it looks even better than before the accidents!

Antonio
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on March 08, 2019, 11:00:30 PM: That is an AMAZING save! You have rebuilt this to an even higher level!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: Borsos on March 09, 2019, 12:55:00 AM: How good to see this cursed white devil back in its beauty, Xan! Congratulations on a great recovery.
Andreas
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: xan on March 12, 2019, 03:46:23 PM: Quote from: Manni on March 08, 2019, 04:46:44 PM
Good to see that bird is able to fly again.
Perhaps I won't try again at once...

Thanks all friends for your nice comments!

I could at last stat the last step, make a wooden prop.
I usually do french palnes wich propelers were painted with tonkylaque, this german plane give me the ocasion to try it. All the wooden prop I saw were done at 1/32 and I wanted to see if it was possible at 1/48...

so let's go:

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/03/10//19031010152723469216152435.jpg)

The propeler is a Reschke

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/03/08//19030808323823469216149940.jpg)

après importation de cet image sur le logiciel de dessin vectoriel silhouette studio ou un autre peu importe, on obtient cela:I importes theis picture and did the drawing i a vectorial drawing software (silhouette studio in this case)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/03/08//19030808323923469216149941.jpg)

Then i put at the right scale
(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/03/08//19030808323923469216149942.jpg)

I buy marquetry wood (0.5mm wood sheet)
(https://www.top-wood.com/fr/180-petits-formats)

Then i used the plotter (cameo silhouette)
(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/03/08//19030808323923469216149943.jpg)

have to be carefull taking the prop parts off
(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/03/08//19030808323923469216149944.jpg)

all is ready
(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/03/08//19030808324023469216149945.jpg)

glue with white glue
(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/03/08//19030808324023469216149946.jpg)

then started:

(https://scontent.fvit1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/53905698_592032031265668_2813782596306075648_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ht=scontent.fvit1-1.fna&oh=4528beb78c8b952accf3fe79c0dcd50f&oe=5D173587)

first try was not so good, but i saw it works...
(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/03/08//19030807072023469216150506.jpg)

second try was better:
(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/03/10//19031010152323469216152433.jpg)

here is the prop logo

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/03/10//19031010152723469216152436.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/03/10//19031010152823469216152437.jpg)

Borsos indicate me Lf models did it at 1/48; thank you Andreas!
(https://www.lfmodels.com/images/lfdecals/images_lf_aces_C3201.jpg)

Then i pass a raw sienna oil paint layer varnish and here is the result

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/03/10//19031010152523469216152434.jpg)
Not that bad!

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/03/12//19031207014423469216154965.jpg)

Xan
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: lcarroll on March 13, 2019, 02:15:50 AM: Xan,
Beautiful prop, hard to believe it's your first try! Your recovery from the second incident/accident is most impressive, as RAG III has said it looks even better then before the "crash". Great modelling and my compliments for a great recovery. 8) 8) 8)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: Syd Solo on March 16, 2019, 01:02:32 AM: Fantastic work and admired your restoration when I (like most, I suspect) would have lost heart. Nice work on scratchbuilsing the prop, also.

Cheers

Syd
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: Alexis on March 16, 2019, 10:25:23 AM: Glad to see you rebuild it , see is one beautiful looking model :)

Terri
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: xan on March 24, 2019, 06:35:52 PM: At last Aviatic is finished!

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/03/24//19032408191623469216171488.jpg)

well, i have steel to do the diorama, but I am waiting for the figure...
Here are some pics.
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=10209.0 (https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=10209.0)
i will send later other pics with blue background...

Xan
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: andonio64 on March 24, 2019, 06:38:37 PM: Beautiful, great choice of a black background!
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on March 24, 2019, 09:08:53 PM: Brilliant work!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: coyotemagic on March 25, 2019, 06:50:04 AM: A truly unique and stunning piece of art, Xan! You should be very proud of this one.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: xan on August 26, 2019, 02:14:42 AM: And now it is really finished, incluided the diorama!!!

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/08/22//19082205585223469216370981.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/08/22//19082207153723469216371098.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/08/22//19082207153723469216371097.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/08/25//19082507251823469216375608.jpg)

Xan
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: coyotemagic on August 26, 2019, 02:35:48 AM: Awesome! Where did you find a 1/48 cavalry officer?
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: xan on August 26, 2019, 03:28:06 AM: it is not a cavalery officer but a dragon
(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2019/07/15//19071510421523469216312631.jpg)

or maybe an horse mounted gendarme (policeman)
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f81/20/07/59/79/gendar10.jpg)

I used this:
(http://www.toro-model.com.pl/pliki/grafika/48f29.jpg)

and a friend of mine did me the helmet...

Xan
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on August 26, 2019, 07:53:53 AM: Beautiful results on the aircraft and Dragoon! Lovely work!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: Borsos on August 26, 2019, 05:33:49 PM: That‘s incredible cool, Xan. Really lovely!
Andreas
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: Brad Cancian on August 26, 2019, 05:39:40 PM: Beautiful work! A lovely little scene.
BC
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: Jorgo on August 27, 2019, 01:09:21 AM: Congratulations, Xan! Another gem from your bench

Jörg
Title: Re: Aviatik C.1 Copper state models 1/48
Post by: huberlu on August 27, 2019, 08:00:33 AM: The diorama is beautiful and so original, novel !
I love it! :) :) :)