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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: FIREFOX1 on October 28, 2013, 09:33:32 AM

Title: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: FIREFOX1 on October 28, 2013, 09:33:32 AM
well here goes, my first attempt, I picked the  WNW DH.2 , because I liked the box art,
not knowing how hard it would be,
please feel free to comment, good or bad, and offer any advise, pointers, ect
thanks
Dave

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz251/davidtmartin1/DH2/photo4_zpsb82b0027.jpg) (http://s833.photobucket.com/user/davidtmartin1/media/DH2/photo4_zpsb82b0027.jpg.html)

the line ive used is a bit thick, so ive taken it off and ordered some Ez-line 0.15,

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz251/davidtmartin1/DH2/photo2_zps528c2cb1.jpg) (http://s833.photobucket.com/user/davidtmartin1/media/DH2/photo2_zps528c2cb1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: Des on October 28, 2013, 09:37:05 AM
For your first attempt you are certainly doing a fantastic job, I'm really looking forward to seeing what progress you make next, keep up the excellent work. As far as the line goes for this scale around 0.12mm is fine.

Des.
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: Zabu on October 28, 2013, 09:50:29 AM
Hi Firefox.

You're doing great and the interior it's looking quite nice.

Looking forward to your next update.

Cheers
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: Ernie on October 28, 2013, 07:38:31 PM
Looks like a super start, Firefox.  Looking forward to
following the rest of your build. Enjoy your project. :)

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: RAGIII on October 29, 2013, 12:09:39 AM
You are off to a great start! I am still building the courage up to tackle one of these Pusher types!
RAGIII
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: PrzemoL on October 29, 2013, 12:15:45 AM
Hi, Firefox. It is great to see you start seriously with DH2. However, if you wish for a more detailed insight, try to show larger images. This one, soooo small, though quite attractive seemingly, is like looking through the wrong end of binoculars. I can only say, that the rigging material seems indeed too thick. Try using a fishing line, 0.12mm or 0.15 mm should be fine.
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: IFF1418 on October 29, 2013, 03:34:13 AM
Hi Dave,

Although the picture is small, your cockpit seems to be very well done. Keep it up, you are surrounded by very kind and skilled people on this forum. I was helped quite a lot too.

Kind regards

Patrick
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: FIREFOX1 on October 29, 2013, 04:58:47 AM
many thanks new pictures now added
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: RAGIII on October 29, 2013, 05:04:37 AM
many thanks new pictures now added

Great photos, Looks even nicer now!
RAGIII
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: xmald on October 29, 2013, 05:48:19 AM
I`ve got a huge sentiment for the DH2 since it`s been my first "serious" attempt on the WWI subject. Not an easy model indeed but if you manage not to get crazy when the rigging comes, almost every other model will be a piece of cake!  ;)
It all looks nice and clean - good job!
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: mc65 on October 29, 2013, 10:00:05 AM
aaaaah...
quite good and nice kit! and wonderful job, at now!
if you wish, take a look here... it's the wip of my one, first WWI aircraft kit:

http://freeforumzone.leonardo.it/d/10460422/DH-2/discussione.aspx/1
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: coyotemagic on October 30, 2013, 01:48:14 AM
A challenging first build, but you're off to a brilliant start, Dave.  I'm looking forward to following your build.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: GAJouette on October 30, 2013, 02:11:35 AM
  Dave,
Outstanding first progress my friend. Judging from your work so far ,this may be your first WWI project but certainly not your first modeling efforts. Keep up the great work. I'm interested in following your progress so I'll be looking forward to your next update.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: FIREFOX1 on October 30, 2013, 03:17:49 AM
No, it is my first real attempt at this,like most of us ive had a go building bits and bobs, but nothing to serious,  I do happen to be a Design technology Teacher, but generally spend most of my time teaching or helping then build Secondary school projects, or even drawing them up in CAD but as I am unable to undertake my main hobby I decided to have a go as they say,
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: bobs_buckles on October 30, 2013, 06:27:25 AM
Hi Dave,
 I sent you a PM regarding your recent order.
Cheers,
Bob  ;)
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: FIREFOX1 on November 03, 2013, 04:50:40 AM
(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz251/davidtmartin1/image_zps2fb11555.jpg) (http://s833.photobucket.com/user/davidtmartin1/media/image_zps2fb11555.jpg.html)

I think this part is finished but I now need some help/ advise  please see next pic
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: FIREFOX1 on November 03, 2013, 04:59:56 AM
http://s833.photobucket.com/user/davidtmartin1/media/image_zpsa87789a7.jpg.html](http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz251/davidtmartin1/image_zpsa87789a7.jpg)[/URL]

The question is to do with the bottom wings , where do I go from here,
Do I put in up rights in the bottom part of the wings, ( sorry don't know technical term) then paint, or
Do I put in ( which at this moment in time I have not got a clue how to do it)  in the Eyelets and the 0.5 x3mm tube I got from Bob, so as you can see I need some guidance here please
Or as an after thought do I build the wings top and bottom first :(:(
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: coyotemagic on November 03, 2013, 06:03:43 AM
Looking good so far, Dave.  At this point, if it were me, I'd paint and decal the wings, then drill and attach the eyelets, then add the struts and install the top wing.  But that's just me.  I'm sure there are as many methods as there are modelers on this site.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: Des on November 03, 2013, 07:23:00 AM
You are doing a great job so far Dave.

At this point I would drill the holes for the eyelets, then I would paint the wing completely, apply the decals and the apply a clear coat. Once everything was dry I would then clean out the holes for the eyelets,  fit the eyelets and then lastly fit the struts. This is my technique, it may vary from the way others do it.

The struts are the timber upright pieces that hold the top wing to the bottom wing, these are fitted to the wings, there are also cabane struts, these also hold the top wing but they are mounted to the fuselage.

If you have a look at Bob's website he gives a very good description on how to fit his buckles.

Des.
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: Ronkootje on November 03, 2013, 09:05:40 AM
Dont forget to put mask sol in the joints where the struts go before you start painting the wing WnW tollerence is tight, plus thin cement doesent like pait.

Ron
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: FIREFOX1 on November 03, 2013, 09:18:04 AM
Question......how deep dose the eyelets go into the model, I'm really starting to panic now".......and people reckon  teaching 30 teenage, hormone induced kids is hard, they want to try rigging for the first time.
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: Des on November 03, 2013, 09:22:06 AM
I always use a 0.4mm drill bit and I drill about three parts of the way into the wing, the holes already there by Wingnuts are not deep enough, they are there for a guide only.

Des.
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: FIREFOX1 on November 03, 2013, 09:56:26 AM
Thanks Des I will give it a go
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: Nigel Goodson on November 03, 2013, 10:22:56 AM
Its great, you should be proud!
Keep us posted, I would love to see it when its finally done, I'm sure it will be awesome! 
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: AROTH on November 03, 2013, 11:36:33 AM
".......and people reckon  teaching 30 teenage, hormone induced kids is hard, they want to try rigging for the first time........."

Well, now, when you put it that way, your plight makes more sense.......
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: GAJouette on November 03, 2013, 11:21:53 PM
 I'm really starting to panic now".......and people reckon  teaching 30 teenage, hormone induced kids is hard, they want to try rigging for the first time.

  Dave,
LOL believe me as someone who has taught too the rigging is far easier.Especially once the first is done. Of coarse three Hail Maries and crossed fingers never hurts before you start either. Keeep up the outstanding work my friend.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: RAGIII on November 03, 2013, 11:28:08 PM
Outstanding progress! You obviously have Modeling Skills in place so I am sure you will get the rigging under control without a great deal of difficulty!
RAGIII
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: Ernie on November 04, 2013, 06:45:22 PM
Great job on the Dh.2, Dave.  You are making really good progress!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: KONG on November 08, 2013, 09:51:33 AM
Very tidy Dave and neat too . . .A fine job man  ;)
Keep up the good work

Cheers

Dave
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: FIREFOX1 on November 09, 2013, 10:04:13 AM
 Many thanks, I ended up re painting nacelle, as after looking around, and rereading some bits were wrong, so this is my second attempt, before disaster struck.

(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz251/davidtmartin1/image_zpsd30e1825.jpg) (http://s833.photobucket.com/user/davidtmartin1/media/image_zpsd30e1825.jpg.html)
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: FIREFOX1 on November 09, 2013, 10:10:25 AM
Hi, well I have really messed up the bottom wing, I drilled in the eyelets, first problem is how far out dose the eyelet itself protrude from the surface, mine are all different heights, this is due to the depth of the holes I tried to drill out, once I go them in, I painted the wing and it looked ok. then I noticed that some how, some of the eyelets had snapped off, leaving minute stumps, and the one that had remained in place, are now clogged up. do I strip the pain off, I can use Acetone free Nail polish removers ( my wife's not mine, just thought id put that in) but who to I deal with the broken eyelets....... messed up here good!!!!!



(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz251/davidtmartin1/38ee2fa9-8fc3-4cd2-88f5-5ac57d1b0035_zps23a2f031.jpg) (http://s833.photobucket.com/user/davidtmartin1/media/38ee2fa9-8fc3-4cd2-88f5-5ac57d1b0035_zps23a2f031.jpg.html)
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: Ernie on November 09, 2013, 11:16:52 AM
Don't panic, Firefox...colours can be changed and as for the eyelets, I had trouble
with them plugged up with CA glue.  A combination of a teeny drill bit, I think in my
case it was a 0.03mm, together with an ordinary sewing needle opened them up
again.  As for the broken ones, I would think that all you have to do is make sure
the stub is flush with the wing, then carefully drill a new hole.  Nothing to it, my friend! ;) :D

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: first attempt WNW DH.2
Post by: mc65 on January 07, 2014, 10:54:13 PM
well....

I faced with the same trouble with the same kit... since then, I decided to pre-drill the holes before painting, then after the painting work, glue the eyelets.

to clean them, and also to attain the same height referred to the wing surface, I found useful some acupuncture needles. they are flexible, very elastic, and, well, pointed! ;)