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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: IFF1418 on October 19, 2013, 06:05:55 PM
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Hi all,
I started the build of the Sopwith Triplane. Here are the first pictures. Thank you for looking!
Kind regards
Patrick
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Hi Patrick.
Great start from you. The cockpit sides are amazing.
I also enjoy the detail on the engine. Very nicely done.
Cheers
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Hello Zabu,
Thank you so much, this means a lot to me. Pity that I'm still not able to produce some real wood resemblance.
Very kind regards
Patrick
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Very nicely done so far Patrick, the fuselage sides look great and the engine looks superb, looking forward to your next updates.
Des.
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Patrick,
Excellent start on your tri plane! Your bracing wires and control cables are looking great! Nice work on the engine!
RAGIII
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Thank you very much Des and Rick. Your appreciation is very welcome since my self confidence was a bit low with the failure of the SE5a. All these friendship keeps me going.
Kind regards
Patrick
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Beautiful start, Patrick! The wood effects and wire bracing is first rate and your
engine is superb! Whatever you think of your SE5, it served you well in perfecting
your talents. I'll enjoy following your build, my friend. :)
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Hi Ernie,
Thank you so much. I appreciate your support tremendously. After all I think I will try to recover as far as I can on the SE5a. I purchased a little jig and hope that way I may be able to fix the upper wing. That's for a little later. I still love the SE5a very much.
It's so pleasing that the modellers who are a thousand times better and handier than me take the time for watching everybody's build. Thank you for that!
Kind regards
Patrick
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Beautiful start Patrick. Nicely done detail on the interior so far and the engine is superb. N534 is a great choice for markings/colours.
Cheers,
Lance
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Hi Lance,
Thank you so much for your comment. I will try not to disappoint you to much with the rest of the build ;)
Kind regards
Patrick
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Excellent start, Patrick. The cockpit rigging is superb and that engine is gorgeous. Keep up the great work.
Cheers,
Bud
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Thank you very much Bud, I estimate your opinion very high. I'm so glad you like it up to now.
Very kind regards
Patrick
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Hello Patrick:
It looks like you are off to a good start on the Sopwith Tripe. Your attention to detail in the cockpit is noteworthy and I will look forward to seeing you progress through this build.
Best
Mark
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Hello Mark,
Nice to hear from you and thank you very much for your comments. It is much appreciated!
Very kind regards
Patrick
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Patrick,
Excellent first progress my friend. Keep this up and she's surely be a real stunner.
Highest Regards,
Greggory Jouette
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Hello Gregory,
Thank you so much for your kind words so much appreciated. I hope this time to get it finally to "completed models" :)
Very kind regards
Patrick
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Great start, halves of fuselage and engine looks great.
Adam.
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Hello Adam,
Nice to hear from you. Thank you very much for your kind comments. It is much appreciated.
Very kind regards
Patrick
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Hello all,
A small update. I made the cabin and the instrument panel before installing it. I'm not so pleased with the pilot's stick. It's way overdone and looks somewhat "baroque". Next time better. The bracing of the side panels is a bit dangerous because the side panels are so tiny that they would easely be deformed. And indeed the seat belts are immense compared to the chair. Sorry if the pictures are a bit on the dark side.
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Hi all,
Another 3 pictures, with the instrument panel installed. Thanks for passing by.
Kind regards
Patrick
(http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y385/IFF1418/SopwithTripe_28_zpscec8eb64.jpg)
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Your cockpit is looking, awesome, my friend. Keep up the great work.
Cheers,
Bud
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Patrick, you are coming along wonderfully with the Tripe! I think the
cockpit is really looking the business. Your instrument panel is superb
and the bracing and control wires are right on. Super job, my friend!
Now I'm anxious to see your next updates. ;D
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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you are making excellent progress Patrick, the instrument panel is superb, I love the wood colour you used, the rest of the cockpit is really well done.
Des.
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That is sooo familiar! ;) Great to see one of these Tripes under way, again. I wish you as much pleasure as I had building N534.
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That is sooo familiar! ;) Great to see one of these Tripes under way, again. I wish you as much pleasure as I had building N534.
I feel the same way! Your work is looking excellent and I too hope you continue to enjoy your Tripe as much as I did mine!
RAGIII
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Absolute stunning work in the interior Patrik.
Just perfect.
Cheers
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Hello Bud, Ernie, Des, Przemol, Rick and Paulo,
Thank you so much for your kind words and encouragements on my build of the tripe. Although I'm rather pleased with the result so far, it will never come as close as the fantastic builds you all made and are making. These words coming from such master builders are very hartwarming. Thank you all.
For the next one I will definitely have to exercice on the woodgrain because up to now it is rather flat.
Thank you again gentleman!
Very kind regards
Patrick
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Dittos to the above , making good progress !!
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Hello Dr,
Thank you very much, nice to hear from you. It is much appreciated.
Kind regards
Patrick
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Hi all,
A new (small) update. I closed the fuselage and followed the advice of Przemol, Rick and Chris by painting first the cockpit closing. Thank you for passing by.
Kind regards
Patrick
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some small retouches need to be done
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i'm beginning to dislike the pilot's stick more and more
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Patrick,
I just started my Triplane build and have been studying your fine build along with the several others here looking for hints, ideas, and trying to ensure I learn from the experience of you Guys who have done this one before me. I have a suggestion and some thoughts regarding the cord wrapping on your control stick; just my suggestions...........
First, you've mentioned several times that you are not happy with this part of your Build and, to repeat a very wise bit of advice from "Bo" on this Forum concerning another Build here, maybe consider changing it as it is bothering you and, importantly, "you know it's there". I've gone through the Albatros Publications Data File #22 as I was considering trying to replicate the cord wrap (not an easy job methinks!) and most of the photos of the cockpit show a plain metal hand grip, no cord. The photos I speak of are of the RAF Museums refurbished N5912, there are 3 or 4 very clear close up photos showing the plain metal grip. There's also a very clear photo of the cockpit of N6292, "Lily" of 8 Naval Sqn. taken in July 1917 and again the plain stick grip is very apparent. In fact, the only photos I have of the cord wrapping are on "Replicas", notably the one in the Canadian National Aviation Museum taken in the early 1990's. Based on the foregoing I intend to do the plain grip as I believe that was the normal configuration. At least, in my view, the logic seems valid as I'm doing N533, a twin gunned version like yours and of the same configuration as N5912 of the RAF Museum. (albeit N533 and N5912 were built by different sub-contractors) Remember too that, like colours and markings, there is rarely a definitive answer to any question on these aircraft, it's been almost 100 years since they were in service!
Having said all that I believe you could simply reach into your closed cockpit and snip off just the top grip, replace it with the cleaned up original or a scratch built plain one, and feel much happier with your excellent Build. If you are like me at least you'd be able to sleep better having put it back to where you want it!
Just my thoughts and logic, hope you consider it in the constructive spirit offered; you've got a beautiful Model coming along here!
Cheers, :)
Lance
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Another great Tripehound build - lovely!
Alan
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Good Luck, Patrick! You've done very well so far. Keep up the good work! :D
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Hello Patrick:
Lance hit the nail on the head. If you aren't happy with that stick, you will always be regretting it. Take the time now and make it right. You are making good progress and the build is clean. I like your instrument panel. The rest of the cockpit is nice and tidy as well. You are well on your way to an outstanding build.
Best
Mark
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Thank you Lance, Alan, Gary and Mark for your kind words of encouragement.
Lance you are certainly right, I should redo the stick, otherwise I wil always regret. It looks so grotesque. There is indeed a picture of a wrapped stick in the instruction booklet of WnW of the N6920 but this is as you say a replica. Rick did it to, but then it was well done and sober and looks great. I will see how I can manage. Time is not an issue.
I'm very pleased that you all take the time to follow my build and your comments are more dan welcome.
Kind regards
Patrick
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Your cockpit looks splendid Patrick, I am extremely impressed with your instrument panel, you did a superb job with it.
I wrapped the control column of my Sopwith Pup using 0.07mm copper wire, when painted it looks like a proper wrapped handle.
Keep up the excellent work Patrick, this model is shaping up to be a stunner.
Des.
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Your cockpit looks splendid Patrick, I am extremely impressed with your instrument panel, you did a superb job with it.
I wrapped the control column of my Sopwith Pup using 0.07mm copper wire, when painted it looks like a proper wrapped handle.
Keep up the excellent work Patrick, this model is shaping up to be a stunner.
Des.
Hello Des,
Thank you so much for your kind words. That is a very inventive solution you used. I used a piece of sewing-thread which proved to be much to thick. I'm very glad Des that you follow my build and that you like it up to now.
Kind regards
Patrick
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Your Tripe is looking great! Nice work on the coaming! Looks better than mine came out!
RAGIII
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Thank you so much Rick. I wouldn't say that. If my build will be half as good as yours I will be very pleased.
Kind regards
Patrick
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Hi all,
I finally replaced the pilot's control stick with a new handmade one (from a copper wire). No wrapping anymore. I hope it isn't placed to high (!?)
Thank you for looking.
Kind regards
Patrick
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Nice work Patrick, makes a huge difference and definitely on the positive side. This is looking very nice indeed!
Cheers,
Lance
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Brilliant job on the replacement, Patrick. The cockpit looks fantastic.
Cheers,
Bud
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Thank you very much Lance, I'm so glad I did change it (I wil sleep better now).
Very kind regards
Patrick
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Hello Patrick.
Doesn't this look good? You must be really pleased.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Good morning Bud and Nigel, thank you for your kind comments. Yes I'm glad I did change the control stick. And now up to the lower wing.
I wish you a very nice day and thank you again!
Patrick
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Hey, Patrick!
Nice change on your spade grip! At the risk of being a real pain, I was going to refer you to page 5 in the WNW Triplane instruction booklet, left hand middle photo caption: "Note the cord wrapped around the spade grip of the control column which was not a feature of WW1 era Tripes as far as we can ascertain." But you've got it changed, and nicely done. Good luck with the rest of your build. I have one in the cache, as you will have surmised, and I am keen to see how you handle this build. 8)
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Hi Gary,
Indeed I read that too in the WnW build manual. Although it can be very nice (cfr. Rick's build). Thank you for your comment and appreciation. I hope your build will be very succesful. I wil certainly report any difficulty I encounter.
Kind regards
Patrick
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Patrick,
Excellent progress my friend. Beautiful work on her interior.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Thank you very much Gregory. Glad you like it. I hope not to ruin it this time!
Kind regards
Patrick
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You are doing wonderfully on the Tripe, Patrick! Your replacement stick
is spot-on, my friend. Well done! Looking forward to the next update.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Thank you very much Ernie. Next I'm going to prepare the lower wing and tailpane and fix them. Then start de masking and painting. Your engine is fabulous and I think your tripe will become a masterpiece. I'm looking forward too, to see your cockpit coming together.
Very kind regards
Patrick
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That's just beautifull.
Very nice looking interior Patrick. The control stick looks great too.
Cheers
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Hello Paulo,
Thank you so much for your nice comments. I appreciate this very much, certainly coming from such skilled modelers. It's a great stimulus for me!
Kind regards
Patrick
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Hello Patrick,
Coming along nicely, the spade grip looks much better :D
Guy
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Thank you so much Guy for your kind words and for taking the time to watch my build. I am busy now doing the pre-shading of the wings. Quite a lot to do with a triplane.
Kind regards
Patrick
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Hello all,
Some new pictures. I had quite a bit of trouble with the airbrush. This build comes nowhere close to these of Rick, Chris, Des or Prez, but I'm trying to learn from them. Thank you for looking.
Kind regards
Patrick
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Great progress Patrick, and looking very nice indeed! I like your PC12, I'm within a few days of closing up mine and spraying the main colour as well. What paint(s) did you use, is it a mix, and if so can you share your "recipe"? The tone appears perfect to my eye.
Cheers,
Lance
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Hello Lance,
Thank you for your kind comments. I used a mixture and for the first time I used water-based Vallejo. I mixed 140 drops of Vallejo Chocolate Brown and 55 drops of Valejo Beige Brown and 140 drops of distilled water. (--> 40%, 20%, 40%). As I liked the color of Prez very much I tried to obtain his color, but I think mine is a little darker.
Kind regards
Patrick
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Hello Lance,
Thank you for your kind comments. I used a mixture and for the first time I used water-based Vallejo. I mixed 140 drops of Vallejo Chocolate Brown and 55 drops of Valejo Beige Brown and 140 drops of distilled water. (--> 40%, 20%, 40%). As I liked the color of Prez very much I tried to obtain his color, but I think mine is a little darker.
Kind regards
Patrick
Thanks Patrick. I have difficulty finding a Vallejo source and will be trying a mix of Tamiya colours I mixed up a few months back. (I read the formula somewhere here I think?) The brown portion is their XF 10 Flat Brown which is very dark and has a real "chocolate" tone. I rarely work with acrylics so I'm looking forward to trying this one.....hope I can get a decent result.
Cheers,
Lance
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All the best of luck Lance. Couldn't you use a conversion chart from tamiya to humbrol enamel or so? I'm busy looking for a conversion of Humbrol colors to Tamiya acrylic for the French multi color camouflage.
Very kind regards
Patrick
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I always use this for paint converting.
http://www.paint4models.com/paintchart/paintconversionchart20100101d.htm#
It does a pretty good job.
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This conversion chart seems very good Ken. Thank you!
By the way your model collection is quite impressive. Great work!
Kind regards
Patrick
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Wonderful work on the Tripe, Patrick. You have, I figure captured the PC12
just about perfectly. Well done, my friend. I don't know what trouble you
had with the airbrush, but your paint looks great! The build is coming along
very well. I look forward to the next update.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Thank you so much Ernie. I had some spots in the PC12 layer and the final clear coat is not uniform enough due to the airbrush. Maybe I thinned the clear painting not enough for the air-brush. Still learning there. Thank you again for following my build Ernie.
Kind regards
Patrick
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Hello Patrick:
The new stick looks the business and really enhances the cockpit, you did a great job on the replacement. The rest of the model is coming along nicely as well. I like your PC 12, has a nice rich tone to it.
Best
Mark
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Hello Mark,
Always nice to here from you. Thank you for your kind comments and I'm glad you like the color. I was afraid it would be a bit to much. Thank you for passing by and hope to hear from you soon.
Kind regards
Patrick
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Scrumptious, chocolaty goodness, Patrick! The colors of your Tripe are perfect, the wrap-around on the underside of the wings is just right and if you were having problems with your airbrush, I hope to have the same problems. Brilliant work, mate!
Cheers,
Bud
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Hello all,
Some new pictures. I had quite a bit of trouble with the airbrush. This build comes nowhere close to these of Rick, Chris, Des or Prez, but I'm trying to learn from them. Thank you for looking.
Kind regards
Patrick
Well Patrick, As one of those builds you mention I must say your paintwork looks better than mine and I mean that wholeheartedly! Looking great!
RAGIII
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Hello Bud and Rick, thank you! Your comments are very kind as usual! Maybe the camera hides the imperfections that I see on my workbench. But you all give me the encouragement trying to become better. Thank you so much.
Kind regards
Patrick
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This conversion chart seems very good Ken. Thank you!
By the way your model collection is quite impressive. Great work!
Kind regards
Patrick
You're welcome. It does throw up a few odd ones but it's mostly good.
Thanks for the kind words.
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Your PC12 mix is very good Patrick, the Triplane is looking very nice so far and I look forward to further progress.
Des.
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Hello Patrick
May I, belatedly, also offer my congratulations on the PC12 you have achieved.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Thank you so much Des and Nigel. I really didn't know I was so close. In future I would like to obtain the same color in Tamiya acrylic paints. It's a bit easier to dose.
Kind regards
Patrick
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Hi all,
Referring to the problems Chris encountered assembling the undercarriage of the tripe and the time I already spend looking for a way to fix it, I came to a kind of a solution which might be not right at all.
I measured the distance of the holes in the fuselage were the legs of the undercarriage have to be glued in. This was 20mm. Then I measured the width of the spreader bar and found 42mm. Then I measured approx. the height from spreader bar to fuselage (30mm). This gave me the angle the legs make on the spreader bar which was 70°. Measuring the angle on the drawings of Ian Stair of the tripe in Windsock Datafile (22), I found 70° too. So I made a cardboard template of 70° that can be aligned with the spreader bar and so adjust the angle of the undercarriage legs. Does this make any sense? Who could help me out?
Thank you!
Kind regards
Patrick
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Patrick,
That's basically the same method I use for the cabane struts and occasionally the undercarriage on most of my projects, a template is a wonderful aid when it comes to alignment and angles. I'd say you are on the correct track, brilliant!
Cheers,
Lance
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Patrick thanks for the idea of using a template. Good work, my friend!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Thank you Lance and Ernie, If you both think this could help, I will try this out.
Kind regards
Patrick
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Your method sounds good to me. I too found assembling the parts a challenge. I would have to go back to my log to see just how much it tormented me :o Be sure to take photos of your jig in place if you can, it may help me on a future build!
RAGIII
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Hi Rick,
I had already finished gluing the undercarriage legs when I received your post. So I tried to redo the setup. A jig is a very great word for what it is you know.
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The base cardboard is replicating the 4 holes in the fuselage (I fixed the legs with tape).
The 2nd cardboard is representing the angle (70°) on both sides. The width is approx. 42mm, this is the dimension of the spreader bar. All has to be fixed by tape (the picture is just an exemple and not properly done).
The undercarriage parts are the least fine WnW parts I found till today, although it's good looking when properly fixed. I still had troubles assembling them.
Kind regards
Patrick
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Patrick. Thank you for going through the trouble of re-creating your set up! It looks as though it worked quite well!
RAGIII
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No trouble at all Rick, you're welcome.
Kind regards
Patrick
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What a great idea Patrick! By using cardboard it is a cheap and easy method, and can be repeated.
I too find that the undercarriage parts are very tricky, until complete. I usually assemble the undercarriage with the model upside down so the glue can set without having to support the weight of the model.
I will certainly give your method a try next time!
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Thank you Ian, glad if this can be of any help to someone. I wonder if the angle of 70° was common for most of the undercarriages.
Kind regards
Patrick
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That is a really good idea. That could help me out a lot, thanks.
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Patrick,
That's a clever way of creating a jig ;)
I'll be using that one I think..
Guy
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Yes Guy, and any improvement is welcome.
Kind regards
Patrick
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I foresee the use of my vinyl cutter to cut jigs from 20thou plastic card in the not to distant future ;)
VB
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A very good idea with the undercarriage jig you made Patrick, and thank you for sharing your idea with the forum members.
Des.
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Hello Des,
That's where the forum is for isn't it Des. I already learned so much thanks to all these gentle and skilled people, that I'm very glad to be able to contribute a bit.
Kind regards
Patrick
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Hi friends,
A small update with the tail rigging ( I spend hours and hours), the undercarriage installed, decals all set and a lot of not so fine work. I will no prepare the wings and fuselage for rigging and try to mount the other wings (lots of stress coming up). Thank you for coming by.
Kind regards
Patrick
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Quite an ugly opening on the cockpit closing
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The machine guns seem to be a bit out of alignment. Is this a mistake or is this like the real Triplane?
Stefan
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You are doing a really great job, Patrick. Aside from a little tweaking here
and there, it is a dandy model. If you are bugged by the little space you
mentioned with the top cover, you could fill it, rescribe and touch up the paint...
no biggie. :) Keep up the good work, my friend, you are making grand progress!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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The machine guns seem to be a bit out of alignment. Is this a mistake or is this like the real Triplane?
Stefan
Yes Stefan a mistake. I had a lot of trouble fixing the second machine gun and had even to file the support a little.
You are doing a really great job, Patrick. Aside from a little tweaking here
and there, it is a dandy model. If you are bugged by the little space you
mentioned with the top cover, you could fill it, rescribe and touch up the paint...
no biggie. :) Keep up the good work, my friend, you are making grand progress!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
Thank you Ernie for your continued encouragements, they really mean a lot to me. I'll see what I can do about the gap. Thank you a lot my friend!
Kind regards
Patrck
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Patrick,
First, the photo of the jig you made for the proper installation of the undercarriage is excellent. I will be replicating your method when I install mine very soon, brilliant work!
For the gap on the cockpit decking I had a similar problem on a previous Build of the Roden Fokker DRI. I solved it by removing the decking, building it up a bit with styrene strips, and refinishing and then re-installing it. If you can remove the decking/closure that might work for you.
Nice work so far, I'll be following your progress as I'm only a few steps behind you on the same Build.
Cheers,
Lance
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Thank you so much Lance. Indeed a few steps behind, but a few buildings higher in quality!. These styrene strips are they being glued upon it or ??? Are they easy to cut and must they be warmed up? I never worked with that material before.
The best of luck with your beautiful tripe!
Kind regards
Patrick
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Looking great, Patrick! I'm sure that you intend to trim up that rudder a bit, so I won't mention it. :o :-X
Cheers,
Bud
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Patrick,
I use a styrene product from "Evergreen", they manufacture a line of styrene products ranging from sheets to rods and strips. It started, I believe, as a product for Model Railroad enthusiasts however I see it referenced here as well. It, or a similar line, should be available at most Hobby Stores. In lieu you could use scrap from your spares box or even sprue. All you need do is glue on your extended profile, fill and sand to the new profile you want, and you should be in business. Assuming you can remove the cowling it's a lot easier then filling the present gap and maintains the separate "panels" on your model. I'll dig around today and see if I have a photo or two that might help.
Cheers,
Lance
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Patrick,
I did have the photos, should have looked first and included them in my previous.
Problem was the same as you are having, I had a gap between the top cowling and the fuselage. You can see the white extended portion I added by gluing a strip on, then sanding and filling, then repainted . This one is slightly different in that it actually fits over the fuselage joint, it's not a flush fitting as on the Tripe but it should solve the problem.
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/IMG_0962.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/IMG_0962.jpg.html)
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/IMG_0963.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/IMG_0963.jpg.html)
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/IMG_0970.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/IMG_0970.jpg.html)
.....and here on the finished product.
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/IMG_1052.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/IMG_1052.jpg.html)
I hope this is of some help.
Cheers,
Lance
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Looking great, Patrick! I'm sure that you intend to trim up that rudder a bit, so I won't mention it. :o :-X
Cheers,
Bud
Thank you very much Bud. Indeed the decals on the rudder needs to be cleaned up. Some parts came of by itsself so it wont be very difficult.
Patrick,
I did have the photos, should have looked first and included them in my previous.
Problem was the same as you are having, I had a gap between the top cowling and the fuselage. You can see the white extended portion I added by gluing a strip on, then sanding and filling, then repainted . This one is slightly different in that it actually fits over the fuselage joint, it's not a flush fitting as on the Tripe but it should solve the problem.
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/IMG_0962.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/IMG_0962.jpg.html)
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/IMG_0963.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/IMG_0963.jpg.html)
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/IMG_0970.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/IMG_0970.jpg.html)
.....and here on the finished product.
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n583/lcarroll1/IMG_1052.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/lcarroll1/media/IMG_1052.jpg.html)
I hope this is of some help.
Cheers,
Lance
Thank you so much Lance. I see what I can do about it and if I can remove the cowling. Your color looks great. It will be a magnificent tripe!
Kind regards
Patrick
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Hello all,
I finally completed my first ever model. Not brilliant of course and many imperfections. The first wing installation and wing-rigging. I owe a lot to the build logs of Prez, Mark, Des and Chris. Thank you all! The rigging wires are painted with a mixture of steel and alu color. The eyelets and tubes are from Bob von der Buckelheim because I never had the proper spring steel to produce them properly myself. Bob’s eyelets are great. Thank you to all my friends who showed this kind interest in my build and gave me encouragement and advice. Lance, I will try to retighten the cockpit closing afterwards. I will never be an excellent modeler, I started much to late but I am enjoying it and like to be on the forum a lot. I am still looking too for a proper setup for the foto’s.
Thank you for stopping by.
Kind regards
Patrick
(http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y385/IFF1418/sized_SopwithTripe_92_zps0790ccf9.jpg)
(http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y385/IFF1418/sized_SopwithTripe_95_zps78d0b785.jpg)
(http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y385/IFF1418/sized_SopwithTripe_96_zps397f4885.jpg)
(http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y385/IFF1418/sized_SopwithTripe_103_zps8adc0711.jpg)
(http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y385/IFF1418/sized_SopwithTripe_104_zpsb52ef70f.jpg)
(http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y385/IFF1418/sized_SopwithTripe_105_zps75b8826f.jpg)
(http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y385/IFF1418/sized_SopwithTripe_107_zpsf4905997.jpg)
(http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y385/IFF1418/sized_SopwithTripe_108_zps5ac790c1.jpg)
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Patrick,
It's a very nice Model and given it's your first it's doubly impressive. It's all about the challenge and enjoyment; your next one will better and the trend will continue. When I started my 1:32 collection a little over two years ago I had been modelling off and on for over 60 years, and the first, an Albatros DIII is horrible compared to my last, number six to date! It's a very "steep improvement curve" which I know you'll enjoy, each project seems to be better then the last. Last, I'm always amazed at how much I learn daily from this Site despite many years in the Hobby.
Again, enjoy your projects above all else; when the hobby becomes a stress point something's been lost, probably the fun of it all! There are a number of world class Model Builders on this Site; I'll never be as good as they are but the enjoyment's in the trying! ;)
Well done and congratulations on a beautiful finish.
Cheers,
Lance
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Congratulations Patrick, on a very well done Tripe. You really should be
proud of what you accomplished. The paint is first-rate, your PC12 being
in my estimation just right. I enjoyed your build log and hope to see more
of your talents again soon, my friend! Any thoughts on your next project?
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Patrick,
You should be very proud of your Sopwith Tripe.
I know that I would be ;) Given that this is your first (of many, I hope!) model you have done extremely well - good for you!
Thanks for your kind words regarding my weeeee eyelets - It makes it all worth while when fellow modellers enjoy using them :)
Cheers,
Von Buckle
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Nicely done Patrick, congratulations.
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Congratulations, Patrick! She's beautiful and as Lance said, your skills will improve dramatically with each subsequent project. I've enjoyed following your progress, my friend, and very much look forward to you next. Have you decided on what it will be?
Cheers,
Bud
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Thank you all so much Lance, Ernie, Bob and Bo
Your appreciation is hartwarming for me. The fact alone that you did follow my build, gave me advice, was very special to me. And your very kind words really mean a lot to me. I know that photo's mask a lot of imperfections. So there is a lot to learn ( about painting, weathering a.s.o.) Glueing is still a risky business for me because of my deteriorating eyes. Rigging went munch better because of the excellent eyelets of Bob. I sometimes do have stress, but overall I'm really enjoying it and as I said before, it's like having a lot of friends all over the world. So... a big Thank You.
Kind regards
Patrick
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Hello Bud, thank You so much for your kind words. So much appreciated.
Ernie and Bud : I'm thinking of the Roden Nieuport 28c which is a beautiful plane who did the first American Air Victory. It's not WnW but I think I'll give it a go.
Kind regards and tnak you!
Patrick
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Good choice with the Nieuport, Patrick. It will give you valuable experience
with your modelling and will make a handsome model.
I look forward to following your build when your start.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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That Sopwith looks darn good - kudos on the completion!
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I know that photo's mask a lot of imperfections.
Yes, but remember that's true for all of us ;)
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Hello Patrick:
Your first model? Well, it turned out pretty dog gone nice. As Lance said, your skills will develop and you will progress with each model you do. This turned out excellent, and as BO commented, the camera hides all of our mistakes and imperfections.
Looking forward to see what you do with the NIE 28. It is a neat airplane and the Roden kit isn't too bad either. Keep 'em coming.
Best
Mark
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Patrick,
So PLEASED to see you have completed this one with NO MISHAPS! You have a Tripe to be very proud of and looking at yours makes me wish mine was as nicely finished!
RAGIII
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Congratulations on a great build, Patrick! You should be proud of yourself.
Lindsay
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Hello Petrov, Mark and BO,
Thank you for your very kind words and encouragements. It is so much appreciated. Bo, you are right, but you deliver almost macro photo's where you can see everything. I wouldn't dare do that!
Kind regards
Patrick
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Hi Rick and Lindsay,
Thank you! Coming from all these top modelers it's really comforting. Rick you are far to kind, yours was so much better finished and your rigging was far better. I'm glad that you made a build log of the Nieuport. I will be looking at it all the time!
Kind regards
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Very neat job Patrick! Everything looks properly aligned which is not easy with 3 sets of wings, and the rigging - which makes all the difference to models like these IMHO - is spot on. :)
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Sincere congratulations! It is an absolutely very fine "first one". Very sharp and clean. I am looking forward to see more of your projects.
If I may... One thing missing, to my taste, is a bit orangy shade on the wood. I would suggest you to try to airbrush thin Clear Orange coat - it does marvels :)
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Well done on completion Patrick; isn't the Sopwith Triplane a lovely aircraft? I very much like the photograph you've taken from above and behind the whole aircraft. I suspect that for many aircraft an attack from there and at that range would have had fatal consequences, but with even a reasonably skilled pilot I'd expect the Tripehound to be away in a trice!
Best wishes
Nigel
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Very neat job Patrick! Everything looks properly aligned which is not easy with 3 sets of wings, and the rigging - which makes all the difference to models like these IMHO - is spot on. :)
Thank you very much Ian, I was rather pleased of the aligment, but the rigging... My eyes are deteriorating so rapidly. I cut 3 wires, trying to cut of the last little piece of wire against the tubes and had to start all over again. I appreciate your comments very much!
Sincere congratulations! It is an absolutely very fine "first one". Very sharp and clean. I am looking forward to see more of your projects.
If I may... One thing missing, to my taste, is a bit orangy shade on the wood. I would suggest you to try to airbrush thin Clear Orange coat - it does marvels :)
Thank you Prze, really happy with your comments, coming from someone who made such a wonderful tripe before me. And you are quite right about the wood. I struggled making the painting look like real wood but did not succeed. Thank you for the tip!
Patrick
Well done on completion Patrick; isn't the Sopwith Triplane a lovely aircraft? I very much like the photograph you've taken from above and behind the whole aircraft. I suspect that for many aircraft an attack from there and at that range would have had fatal consequences, but with even a reasonably skilled pilot I'd expect the Tripehound to be away in a trice!
Best wishes
Nigel
I'm very happy with your comments Nigel. Indeed it's a lovely plane. It was very manoeuvrable so you are probably right saying that it could get away under those circumstances.
Thank you again Nigel.
Patrick
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Patrick .......................
Just caught up with this build ... and it looks pretty damn fine to me - as you know I'm on my first build and I can only hope it turns out as well as this one has.
Highly commended - bliddy well done sir!
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Patrick congrats on your great looking Tripe.
We all start with something and you started with a very fine build and atractive model, one to be proud of.
Cheers
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Hello Andi and Zabu,
Thank you so much for the very kind comments on the Tripe. It is appreciated very much. Andi good luck with your build!
Kind regards
Patrick