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Re: Sopwith Camel, 1/48 Eduard, 10.1.22 Bentley B.R.1
« Reply #60 on: January 11, 2022, 10:40:29 PM »
I think the wire pushrods are the way to go.  I'm glad to see you did it.  The Brassin engine looks as good as any I've seen.

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Re: Sopwith Camel, 1/48 Eduard, 10.1.22 Bentley B.R.1
« Reply #61 on: January 12, 2022, 04:14:38 AM »
Thank you very much! I'm glad you like the little Bentley!

I think the wire pushrods are the way to go.  I'm glad to see you did it.
Yes. I wondered why the impression is a bit different to the original picture, but this comes from the 4 bolts of each cylinder. Those are also a little bit to thick, but there is no chance to replace it. May be Eugeny from Small Stuff has a idea ;)

I like the result, but I spent much more time, compared to my usual rotaries. Hopefully I'm faster with the next one.

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Re: Sopwith Camel, 1/48 Eduard, 10.1.22 Bentley B.R.1
« Reply #62 on: January 12, 2022, 04:39:03 AM »
Frank that engine must be as good as they get in this scale. An observer would need a magnifying glass to look at it on the model anyway, and as most observers ill be at least 1 meter away I think that the engine would pass any test with flying colours. Looking at the photos I wondered if you had test run it yet!

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Re: Sopwith Camel, 1/48 Eduard, 10.1.22 Bentley B.R.1
« Reply #63 on: January 12, 2022, 04:44:25 AM »
Wow Frank, that looks fantastic! I'd say you've nailed it. Can I help with the test runs?  ;)

The kit offers 4 engine types: Clerget, Gnome, Le Rhone and the Bentley
Please forgive my ignorance - is it the 160hp Le Rhone?

If you look for references (what I usually always do - this is a fun part of the hobby) you will need also to look for Bentley A.R.1 for "Admirality Rotary", which was later renamed to "Bentley Rotary". The engine was developed as a less troublesome replacement for the Clerget.
On Wikipedia you can find this wonderful picture, also in a high resolution.

That is a fantastic image, what a hidden treasure! I love the design of the engine stand - I wonder if there are other pictures of this assembly out there?
Zac in NZ

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Re: Sopwith Camel, 1/48 Eduard, 10.1.22 Bentley B.R.1
« Reply #64 on: January 12, 2022, 05:52:10 AM »
Thank you Stephen and Zac!

Looking at the photos I wondered if you had test run it yet!
No Stephen, if you look carefully you will notice that one push rod is lost! Noticed that today and need to repair it before. ;)


Please forgive my ignorance - is it the 160hp Le Rhone?
I don't think so, I think the standard 110hp as mentioned in the Windsock Datafile.
Please see lower half of page 4:
https://www.eduard.com/out/media/11151.pdf

Here you can see the 3D printed improvement, the a hp number is also not mentioned:
https://www.eduard.com/eduard/sopwith-camel-le-rhone-engine-print-1-48.html


That is a fantastic image, what a hidden treasure! I love the design of the engine stand - I wonder if there are other pictures of this assembly out there?
Loved that picture too, that's why I used in in my posting.
Here you have access to the full resolution file, and some other pictures of this engine:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bentley_AR1

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Frank

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Re: Sopwith Camel, 1/48 Eduard, 10.1.22 Bentley B.R.1
« Reply #65 on: January 13, 2022, 03:25:09 AM »
Please forgive my ignorance - is it the 160hp Le Rhone?
I don't think so, I think the standard 110hp as mentioned in the Windsock Datafile.
Please see lower half of page 4:
https://www.eduard.com/out/media/11151.pdf
Thanks Frank - TVAL/Sir Peter Jackson have a flying replica with a 160 Gnome but I think that's a non-standard fit (I've seen mention that it's overpowered compared to original examples). When the time comes I'll look at aftermarket options  8)

In the meantime, I'm excited to see the next update on your Bentley Camel!
Zac in NZ

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Re: Sopwith Camel, 1/48 Eduard, 10.1.22 Bentley B.R.1
« Reply #66 on: January 13, 2022, 05:12:35 AM »
Zac, I checked the technical data in the Windsock Datafile 26, and beside the list of "normal" engines, there was also experimental:
- the 110hp Clerget 9Z in the first prototype
- 170hp Le Rhone 9R
- 185hp Clerget 9H
A stronger Gnome was not listed, so this is may be "modern freedom" ;)

Really pity that the strong Gnome N is also not available from Small Stuff as I need it for example for the Morane-Sailnier Type AI.

Cheers,
Frank

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Re: Sopwith Camel, 1/48 Eduard, 13.1.22 Masking
« Reply #67 on: January 14, 2022, 05:12:29 AM »
You have the patience of a saint to do all of that masking - and then it still bled....!

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Re: Sopwith Camel, 1/48 Eduard, 13.1.22 Masking
« Reply #68 on: January 14, 2022, 05:23:10 AM »
The blue and white stripe scheme really stands out and to be honest I prefer it to the red and white I'm more used to. I'm not sure if this is a technique you use - and if not, I'm too late to help here - but to help prevent paint seepage I paint a further coat of the base over the areas to be masked, ensuring panel lines/curves etc get some attention. It doesn't always stop seepage but I've found it helps a lot.

In the meantime, I'm excited to see the next update on your Bentley Camel!
Ok, if Zac is so impatient, it goes on ... ;)
Excited, but patiently waiting with anticipation!  ;D

A stronger Gnome was not listed, so this is may be "modern freedom" ;)
I expect you're right. My subject aircraft was built by Gerald Thornhill and Carl Swanson (a prolific builder of Great War replicas) in the mid-1980s and like many replicas of that time I believe it was a case of "use what you've got" when it came to the engine.
Zac in NZ

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Re: Sopwith Camel, 1/48 Eduard, 13.1.22 Masking
« Reply #69 on: January 14, 2022, 09:34:23 AM »
A beautiful scheme and a major Masking challenge for sure! After a bit of touch up I am sure you will make it even more Beautiful. I don't know if you tried the "Painters" trick but I always paint another thin coat of the base color, in this case white, after masking. Seals the edges and usually no bleeding of the second color.
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Re: Sopwith Camel, 1/48 Eduard, 13.1.22 Masking
« Reply #70 on: January 16, 2022, 05:46:57 AM »
Not an easy scheme at all to be masking up which turned out good Frank , not much for touch up on the stripes really , stripes are never easy .


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Re: Sopwith Camel, 1/48 Eduard, 13.1.22 Masking
« Reply #71 on: January 19, 2022, 04:08:58 AM »
Thank you Stephen, Zac, Rick and Alexis!
And also thanks for the good hints about sealing the masks.

Experience is to recognise that you have made the same mistake before. ???

Cheers,
Frank

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Re: Sopwith Camel, 1/48 Eduard, 18.1.22 Undercarriage
« Reply #72 on: January 19, 2022, 04:57:58 AM »
Frank,
It's great to see more of your "Brass Magic".

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Re: Sopwith Camel, 1/48 Eduard, 18.1.22 Undercarriage
« Reply #73 on: January 19, 2022, 06:15:44 AM »
Your Usual Exceptional work Frank!
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Re: Sopwith Camel, 1/48 Eduard, 18.1.22 Undercarriage
« Reply #74 on: January 19, 2022, 07:56:44 AM »
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