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Title: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: DaddyO on January 14, 2024, 10:48:36 PM
Afternoon all

I got a bit bogged down with the group of Tripes I've been working on and then a succession of chest infections meant I wasn't very enthusiastic about modelling anything so I started flipping through some old issues of Cross & Cockade and came across an article about the RFC's Nieuport 27's (Specifically Capt. E S Meek) Now I can't really resist a Nieuport at the best of times, but the last of the line of 'V strutters', well it wasn't long before I was rummaging through the boxes of kits to see what I had  ;D

I know Roden produced a version of the 27, but I didn't have one. I did have a 24 though which was nearly the same ;) Unfortunately the spare tail feathers had already been removed from the box, but not too difficult to make those and a spare Camel U/C would provide the split axle needed so everything was good to go.

Typically I couldn't resist adding some interior and a few extra details here and there. The 'boiler plate rivets' were quickly removed and new stitching and other bits and bobs added. Gentleman Meek was supplied by my mate Nigel and various decals were sourced from the spares box. The rather unusual number on the fin came from an old sheet of Letraset I sourced on Fleabay


I'll post a few in progress shots later, but here's how she turned out.

Paul
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: DaddyO on January 14, 2024, 10:50:17 PM
Overall top view ( I decided after rigging that the light green was too pale so this is the revised version repainted AFTER rigging which was exciting) :o

Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: DaddyO on January 14, 2024, 10:51:05 PM
Obligatory bottom view  8)
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: DaddyO on January 14, 2024, 10:53:06 PM
Here's Capt. Meek himself before mounting
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: DaddyO on January 14, 2024, 10:53:48 PM
And everything mounted on it's new base
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: DaddyO on January 14, 2024, 10:58:33 PM
Last one for the moment

One thing that interested me about this aircraft was the small support strut added the the leading edge of the 'V' strut in much the same way as the later DVa Albatros'. As the weight and power grew it seems like they ran into the same wing flutter issues and, as you know, for the next Nieuport a more conventional dual strut arrangement was used (I really must get around to a 28 one of these days) ::)

Thanks for looking and feel free to comment
Paul
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: PrzemoL on January 15, 2024, 12:09:01 AM
Very, very nice little birdie.
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: Davos522 on January 15, 2024, 01:13:37 AM
Oh, my goodness I love this model... I recently finished reading Mike Westrop's magnificent book on Naval 6 and have been siezed with a nearly overpowering desire to kitbash a 1:32 Nieuport 17bis (after I finish the N.16 and the E.I, of course). This little gem just added fuel to the fire!

Dutch
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: Rip Van Winkle on January 15, 2024, 01:30:39 AM
  Nicely done!. Roden did a good job with their Nieuports.
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: herbarnold99 on January 15, 2024, 03:22:10 AM
Lovely! Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: lone modeller on January 15, 2024, 05:02:13 AM
That is a very interesting model. Super finish and interesting markings.

Stephen.
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: DaddyO on January 15, 2024, 05:20:07 AM
Thanks chaps.

A few added details for the interior from stretched sprue with a new plywood style seat from etch. (I later decided that the cross bar for the instruments looked a bit bulky so this was also replaced after the fuselage was built with stretched sprue and a couple of instruments attached
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: DaddyO on January 15, 2024, 05:28:26 AM
Pleased with how the gun mount ended up (made from scraps of sanded down 5 thou plastic card and brass wire) For this one I managed to add the bowden cable 'trigger' from some stripped computer wire.
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: DaddyO on January 15, 2024, 05:30:27 AM
Last little detail at the back of the aircraft was the tailskid. Had some fun with this filing and soldering a couple of bits of brass together even if it's never seen when the model is displayed  ::)

Paul
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: macsporran on January 15, 2024, 05:38:17 AM
Lovely. And, as we all agree, you can never have too many Nieuports.
I love this combination of French 5 colour camp and British roundels.
Sandy
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: DaddyO on January 15, 2024, 05:53:20 AM
Lovely. And, as we all agree, you can never have too many Nieuports.
I love this combination of French 5 colour camp and British roundels.
Sandy

Cheers Sandy  ;D
One of the appeals of this model was exactly that combination although it did cause a bit of scratching about for suitable decals (ended up using standard British ones from a very old Blue Rider sheet and adding larger red centres cut from some others). Not sure about the colours I used for the camoflauge in the end which didn't darken under varnish quite as much as I expected, but it certainly looks nice and bright next to its PC10 covered companions

Paul
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: KiwiZac on January 15, 2024, 06:07:48 AM
I too love that camo with British markings. What a lovely wee thing, and the pilot looks spectacular. Bravo!
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: NigelR on January 15, 2024, 06:35:09 PM
Sorry to hear you've been unwell Paul, hope you are fighting fit again.

This is a superb build, lovely and sharp with the just the right amount of weathering and fabric detailing for the scale (IMO of course). She looks lovely, and the figure is beautifully painted as always, glad you could put it to use. Looking forward to seeing this in the flesh soon....
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: DaddyO on January 15, 2024, 06:42:19 PM
I too love that camo with British markings. What a lovely wee thing, and the pilot looks spectacular. Bravo!

Cheers Zac  ;D

Sorry to hear you've been unwell Paul, hope you are fighting fit again.

This is a superb build, lovely and sharp with the just the right amount of weathering and fabric detailing for the scale (IMO of course). She looks lovely, and the figure is beautifully painted as always, glad you could put it to use. Looking forward to seeing this in the flesh soon....

Thanks Nigel. Turned out okay in the end although I got a bit tied up with details as usual and was pleased with the RFC chappie who helped bring it to life. I'll bring it to Bovy next month hopefully with something else . . . ;)
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: DaveB on January 16, 2024, 05:09:22 AM
Nicely done, Paul.

Well displayed on your base too.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: Brad Cancian on January 16, 2024, 06:12:30 AM
Beautifully done Paul, a great looking little Nieuport!

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: DaddyO on January 16, 2024, 06:25:19 PM
Nicely done, Paul.

Well displayed on your base too.

Regards

Dave

Thanks Dave  ;D
I always like to put the model on a base. With the smaller ones it also adds a bit of 'gravitas' to them when displayed alongside the larger scales.

Beautifully done Paul, a great looking little Nieuport!

Cheers,

BC

Cheers Brad ;D

Still at that learning stage of modelling so I keep having to stop building to work out how to proceed, but getting better  ;)

Paul
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: enathan on January 16, 2024, 07:00:46 PM
Lovely Nieuport Paul, beautifully done!
I definitely prefer the five colour camo and with RFC markings. 
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: WD on January 18, 2024, 03:56:52 AM
Sorry to be late on this Paul, I thought I had commented earlier.

This is just a lovely build all the way around. I do love that tailskid, and I'm pondering how I'm going to address this on my current 1/72nd Nieuport builds.

As had been said: you can never have too many Nieuports, and that combo of camo and those roundels really makes it pop.

Warren
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: macsporran on January 18, 2024, 04:34:00 AM
Lovely. And, as we all agree, you can never have too many Nieuports.
I love this combination of French 5 colour camp and British roundels.
Sandy

Cheers Sandy  ;D
One of the appeals of this model was exactly that combination although it did cause a bit of scratching about for suitable decals (ended up using standard British ones from a very old Blue Rider sheet and adding larger red centres cut from some others). Not sure about the colours I used for the camoflauge in the end which didn't darken under varnish quite as much as I expected, but it certainly looks nice and bright next to its PC10 covered companions

Paul

I know exactly what you mean Paul - I found the combination equally appealing with the 1/32 Roden N27 a couple of years ago. (Over in completed section.)  Like you I had to cobble together colours and decals.
I attach a wee thumbnail - please forgive intrusion into your thread, it's just to confirm my similar obsession!
Sandy
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: DaddyO on January 18, 2024, 06:10:04 AM
Lovely Nieuport Paul, beautifully done!
I definitely prefer the five colour camo and with RFC markings.
Thanks matey  ;D

Sorry to be late on this Paul, I thought I had commented earlier.

This is just a lovely build all the way around. I do love that tailskid, and I'm pondering how I'm going to address this on my current 1/72nd Nieuport builds.

As had been said: you can never have too many Nieuports, and that combo of camo and those roundels really makes it pop.

Warren

Hi Warren - No a problem (I'm always reading threads and then doing the same  :)

Glad you like the build. (Hopefully I'll have a complete set of Nieuports at some point)
Tailskids are one of those little things that tend to be represented by a 'blob' in this scale, but I quite enjoy the challenge of making one up that looks a bit more realistic and paint can be used for a lot of smaller details. Plastic would be easier of course, but given my heavy handedness I prefer brass which isn't too difficult to work with.
NB - model railway suppliers often have very thin gauge strips which I sometimes use for struts (The cabane ones on this are all made from brass, but I filed from brass wire to section before cutting for them on this occasion)

Lovely. And, as we all agree, you can never have too many Nieuports.
I love this combination of French 5 colour camp and British roundels.
Sandy

Cheers Sandy  ;D
One of the appeals of this model was exactly that combination although it did cause a bit of scratching about for suitable decals (ended up using standard British ones from a very old Blue Rider sheet and adding larger red centres cut from some others). Not sure about the colours I used for the camoflauge in the end which didn't darken under varnish quite as much as I expected, but it certainly looks nice and bright next to its PC10 covered companions

Paul

I know exactly what you mean Paul - I found the combination equally appealing with the 1/32 Roden N27 a couple of years ago. (Over in completed section.)  Like you I had to cobble together colours and decals.
I attach a wee thumbnail - please forgive intrusion into your thread, it's just to confirm my similar obsession!
Sandy

Intrude away Sandy  ;D
Lovely job on yours, by the way - I'm bvecoming more attracted to the RFC mounts so expect a few others later this year, possibly even a pusher  . . .

Cheers
Paul
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: Tim Mixon on January 18, 2024, 09:32:50 PM
Lovely. And, as we all agree, you can never have too many Nieuports.
I love this combination of French 5 colour camp and British roundels.
Sandy


Totally agree with Sandy about the 5color cammo and British markings. Excellent build Paul!
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: ScottJ on January 21, 2024, 02:14:47 PM
I've been away from the site for a while so have been remiss in sending replies...  A most excellent Nieuport 27 Paul, will be Mr. Redundant here and also agree that the camo scheme (and British insignia) really add to the attraction of this model.  And the tail skid as well as the Lewis mount look great!  You've got to be happy with how those turned out.  I've had a soft spot for the 27 as years ago it was my first attempt at scratch building... converting from a Revell Nieuport 17c with mixed (questionable) results. 
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: DaddyO on January 21, 2024, 06:22:51 PM
Glad you both like it, certainly it stands out among the others (I've a hankering to do a Belgian model for the same reason; possibly a Camel or 1 1/2 strutter)

The 27 is a nice looking aircraft anyway (as you know ScottJ) which always helps IMO when you are struggling a bit with a build. Not sure I'd have tried converting a 17 to a 27, but I'm sure you learned a lot and had a lot of fun in the process which is what it's all about  :)  That said I was reading an old article about converting a DH4 or 504 to an FE8 which is another on my to do list . . . .

Incidentally anyone built the Choroszy FE8?

Paul
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: IanB on January 23, 2024, 01:23:53 AM
Beautifully done!
Good luck with the 28 - the Revell kit needs quite a bit of work to get it reasonable, but it's do-able.

Ian
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: DaddyO on January 23, 2024, 01:42:36 AM
Beautifully done!
Good luck with the 28 - the Revell kit needs quite a bit of work to get it reasonable, but it's do-able.

Ian

Cheers Ian. Seen a couple of articles about dressing the 28 up, but will be doing something different next  ;)

Paul
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: Softscience on February 21, 2024, 03:09:27 PM
This is beautiful.

I just began work on my Roden kit and seeing this is an inspiration.
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Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: DaddyO on February 21, 2024, 07:06:16 PM
This is beautiful.

I just began work on my Roden kit and seeing this is an inspiration.
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Many thanks  :)

I really like Roden kits in this scale (not tried any of the larger ones) They don't necessarily fall together in the way that some others do, but are nicely detailed and look the part when finished. They can often be picked up for a few pounds at shows which makes them excellent value for money (not that they're expensive even at list price) ;)

Good luck with yours (I really must make a 24 and Bebe at some point)

Paul
Title: Re: 1/72 Nieuport 27 RFC
Post by: PrzemoL on February 21, 2024, 09:12:11 PM
This is beautiful.

I just began work on my Roden kit and seeing this is an inspiration.
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Many thanks  :)

I really like Roden kits in this scale (not tried any of the larger ones) They don't necessarily fall together in the way that some others do, but are nicely detailed and look the part when finished. They can often be picked up for a few pounds at shows which makes them excellent value for money (not that they're expensive even at list price) ;)

Good luck with yours (I really must make a 24 and Bebe at some point)

Paul

I can only confirm this opinion on 72nd scale Roden kits. They are very fine, though not shake-and-bake. Having built almost all of them I can say, each of them was a pleasure to deal with and they form a lovely collection together.  8)

Please note, however, that Nieuport Bebe is not from Roden - there were some versions (11 and 16) produced by Toko - also lovely ones.