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The WW1 modelers' reference library => Markings and Camouflage => Topic started by: rhwinter on February 23, 2014, 01:45:22 AM

Title: Roland D.VI in a US camouflage scheme
Post by: rhwinter on February 23, 2014, 01:45:22 AM
Hi all, I found this Profile by Juanita Franzi of - as far as I remember - a post armistice Roland D.VI in US-Service, trying out a new camouflage-scheme.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=428382947237684&set=a.193638894045425.48364.171168422959139&type=1&permPage=1

I remember to have seen a photo of that plane too.
Does anyone have some more Information on that plane? Pics? Links? Literature?
Thank you!
Richard

P.S. With a bit more of Information I could well fancy, building the WNW-Roland D.VI in that scheme. Perhaps if Pheon Decals could... (*hint, hint*)
Title: Re: Roland D.VI in a US camouflage scheme
Post by: BLOWHARD on February 23, 2014, 07:23:40 AM
Buy this book, it's HIGHLY recommended!!! 
http://www.amazon.com/Roland-Aircraft-WWI-Centennial-Perspective/dp/1935881205/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1393104198&sr=8-1&keywords=Roland+aircraft (http://www.amazon.com/Roland-Aircraft-WWI-Centennial-Perspective/dp/1935881205/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1393104198&sr=8-1&keywords=Roland+aircraft)
Title: Re: Roland D.VI in a US camouflage scheme
Post by: rhwinter on February 23, 2014, 10:19:54 AM
Thank you, BLOWHARD! Seems to be a wonderful book for Roland addicts like me... There's a reference in this book to an article by Colin Owers in Windsock Worldwide Vol. 29, 2, that "covers experimental USAS day camouflage with many rare photos and spectacular Roland D.VIb colour profiles from Juanita Franzi".
I'll have a look!
Title: Re: Roland D.VI in a US camouflage scheme
Post by: flypaper on March 02, 2014, 10:45:24 AM
I have 7 photos of this a/c from all sides plus from above along with information about what the possible colors (chip card) used in its paint job. The only problem I am having is every time I try to up load them I get a to big message.

Flypaper
Title: Re: Roland D.VI in a US camouflage scheme
Post by: stefanbuss on March 02, 2014, 06:22:59 PM
IIRC, some photos of that paintjob are included in the datafile on the DVI, but no mention of the paints used. Searching for Colin's article in Windsock vol 29 might be a good idea.

Stefan
Title: Re: Roland D.VI in a US camouflage scheme
Post by: rhwinter on March 02, 2014, 06:45:53 PM
Hi, flypaper,
although I'll be ordering Windsock Worldwide Vol. 29, 2, soon to get hold on Colin Owers' article, I'd be very much interested in your photos... I don't know how to post big datafiles here on the Forum, but if you'd want, you could send them via a provider (e.g. this one: https://de.hightail.com/up?phi_action=app/orchestrateUpload) to me - although I'd love to see them shared with everyone here too! And I don't know what to offer to you in return.
Richard
Title: Re: Roland D.VI in a US camouflage scheme
Post by: rhwinter on March 02, 2014, 08:02:13 PM
Did it - thanks Red Baron!
Title: Re: Roland D.VI in a US camouflage scheme
Post by: flypaper on March 03, 2014, 12:39:43 AM
Hi, flypaper,
although I'll be ordering Windsock Worldwide Vol. 29, 2, soon to get hold on Colin Owers' article, I'd be very much interested in your photos... I don't know how to post big datafiles here on the Forum, but if you'd want, you could send them via a provider (e.g. this one: https://de.hightail.com/up?phi_action=app/orchestrateUpload) to me - although I'd love to see them shared with everyone here too! And I don't know what to offer to you in return.
Richard

Hello Richard

I have hopes this will work.

http://s202.photobucket.com/user/flypaper2222/library/US%20Roland%20D-VI%20plus%20color%20cards

I have seen and read Owens article. I wish he had done more to identify the colors used better. The 3 cards I added show what colors were used in the US ARMY during those days very few were used by the Air Service, but, since the others were available some of them may have been used on the Roland and other scheme experiments.

Flypaper
Title: Re: Roland D.VI in a US camouflage scheme
Post by: rhwinter on March 03, 2014, 03:02:01 AM
Thank you very much, Flypaper!!
Title: Re: Roland D.VI in a US camouflage scheme
Post by: rhwinter on March 07, 2014, 04:57:55 PM
Hurra, WingnutWings DID IT!! Thannnkyou!
Title: Re: Roland D.VI in a US camouflage scheme
Post by: stefanbuss on March 07, 2014, 05:59:55 PM
At least we now have WNW's interpretation of the experimental US camo on the DVIb.

Nice.

Stefan
Title: Re: Roland D.VI in a US camouflage scheme
Post by: drdave on March 07, 2014, 06:08:48 PM
Where.?
Title: Re: Roland D.VI in a US camouflage scheme
Post by: flypaper on March 08, 2014, 12:10:42 AM
I wondr how much interest there will be in it (world wide), after all it was a one of a kind and existed for a very short time before it was destroyed in a hangar fire.

FP
Title: Re: Roland D.VI in a US camouflage scheme
Post by: rhwinter on March 08, 2014, 05:24:25 AM
Yes sure, flypaper, you're right, but wouldn't the world be a lot more boring, if there were or would have been more Camels and Fokker D.VII? (My 5 Cents..)
Richard
Title: Re: Roland D.VI in a US camouflage scheme
Post by: uncletony on March 08, 2014, 05:42:19 AM
actually I think there will be tremendous interest on the part of modelers towards the McCook Field Roland. It's a "different", very colorful yet bellicose camo scheme with excellent references avail yet still open to plenty of interpretation (the mysterious shiny metal appliqué on the belly! Bare metal foil? Alclad II? ). There are also several iterations of the scheme providing more interest. I bet we see bunches of them...
Title: Re: Roland D.VI in a US camouflage scheme
Post by: rhwinter on March 08, 2014, 05:53:38 AM
your words are mine, Bo
Title: Re: Roland D.VI in a US camouflage scheme
Post by: davecww1 on March 22, 2014, 12:16:48 PM
I have the Special Hobby 1/48 scale Roland D.VIb and am planning on building it in this scheme as I like something a little different and after seeing the Windsock article now have a good idea of the color of the original, should be a fun build and I will get to use the old school Micro Scale Foil adhesive to glue some aluminum foil to the underside as they did on the actual aircraft...  Will be a good conversation piece on the shelf with all of the lozenge covered D.VII's!
Dave
Title: Re: Roland D.VI in a US camouflage scheme
Post by: Nigel Jackson on March 22, 2014, 05:05:04 PM
Good luck Dave. It certainly sounds an interesting piece of work.

Best wishes
Nigel