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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Steven Robson on August 13, 2014, 10:45:00 AM
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I would like to make a representation the Fokker Dr.I (brave for a build log virgin who usually cuts lots of corners and throws parts away) :)
Are there any Fokker Dr.I fans in the forum who can help me when I get stuck or stuff-up?
Haven't made a final decision on which Dr.I to build but something like the following may be interesting.
Manfred von Richthofen: Fokker Dr.I 141/17 Adlershof 1917
(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Dr_I_141_17WN1853AdlershofTypeTestingLeRhoneNo3579_zpsebcec783.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Dr_I_141_17WN1853AdlershofTypeTestingLeRhoneNo3579_zpsebcec783.jpg.html)
(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Dr_I_141_17WN1853_zps18220199.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Dr_I_141_17WN1853_zps18220199.jpg.html)
(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/Dr_I_141_1720WN1853AdlershofTypeTesting_zpsee0663b9.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/Dr_I_141_1720WN1853AdlershofTypeTesting_zpsee0663b9.jpg.html)
I have the Roden/Encore (F.I) kit in 1/32 scale. Reckon I could start this one in a couple of months. Are we allowed to do very slow build logs in this forum?
(I'm a 6 to 12 month kind of guy)
Suggestions for aftermarket parts most welcome:
- ? Roden/Encore (F.I) kit
- Master Model Spandau LMG by Piotr Czerkasow
- ? Decals
- Axial propeller by The Micro Group
- Undercarriage struts, may have to scratch build these
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Yay!
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I am sure many here will be able to help with any minor difficulties you encounter. Those tripes will certainly be a showcase for Spoked wheels ;)
RAGIII
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Are we allowed to do very slow build logs in this forum?
As long as they don't involve bananas or S&M rodents.
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I, too, have the Roden Dr.I and it's in the running for my next build. Also, I'm a sloooow builder in the 6-12 mo. range. :)
Mark G
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Master barrels, of course.
Vector UR.II is not bad but whatever Lucasz comes up with will blow it away
RB seatbelts have nicer buckles/fittings than HGW
Don't bother with SCAL white metal struts
Aviattic / Kootje thinned cowling -- yes
Books :
Kagero 3D book -- great
Fokker Dr.I Jagdstaffeln GvW -- great marking reference esp
Imrie Dr.I book -- not so much for modeling ref but for historical context recommended
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Are we allowed to do very slow build logs in this forum?
As long as they don't involve bananas or S&M rodents.
Yes, this will be a banana and squirrel free zone. :)
Aftermarket bits:
- Got it: Roden/Encore (F.I) kit
- Got it: Master Model Spandau LMG by Piotr Czerkasow
- On order: Pheon Decals sheet No: ?
- Got it: Axial propeller by The Micro Group
- Undercarriage struts, may have to scratch build these
- Wing and cabane struts, looks like a scratch build as well
- On order: Fokker Dr.I: Jagdstaffeln Greg Van Wyngarden
- On order: Germany's Triplane Craze: Jack Herris
- Got it: von Richthofen's Flying Circus: Greg Van Wyngarden
- Got it: Manfred von Richthofen: James Miller
- On order Aviattic / Ron Kootje thinned Cowling
- On order HGW seatbelts
- On order: Vector UR.II, keep an open option if Lucasz releases a UR.II
- On order: Part photo-etch No: ?
- Turnbuckles ? maybe scratch build
- may need instrument bezels (and a bottle of Scotch, don't tell the wife)
- Got it: Fokker Dr.I The aces' aircraft: Kagero
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You will need a set of wire wheels :P
Apparently, there is this bloke in OZ who can string 'em up in no time, but is often distracted by cute furry critters with big teeth ;D
Ha Ha Ha
Scratch build the flash guards that sit under the muzzles. Simples ;)
VB
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Oh yes, the wheels!
Have 8 x sets of Eindecker orders to fill first. (or should I just cancel them?) Ahhhhhh, ;D ;D ;D ;D that was really evil, promise I'll do them first and not get distracted.
Specs for 710 x 85 Fokker Dr.I wheel:
- rim = 1.8mm wide
- rim OD = 16.875mm (go for 16.8mm)
- spokes N = 32, steel alloy OD = 0.3mm
- Hub: brass 1.5mm OD with 2mm OD flanges, oh and a closed nipple thingo, CAP! on the axel
- Nasty little black rubber tyres (call Lance and Michal Svehla find out how they painted theirs)
Hmmm, instrument bezels? probably need some of these.
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- Vector UR.II ? don't know who these guys are, oh and who is Lucasz? and has he got a UR.II
Vector make nice aftermarket resin, but it is 'true scale', so often difficult to shoehorn into kits. Lukasz is the man behind Taurus, and in my opinion makes better stuff than Vector. He hasn't done a URII in 1/32 yet, but his 1/48 one is superb ;)
Hmmm, I'll have to think about the engine. If Lukasz isn't available, I may have to use the kit part. The F.I kit has a resin engine, or it maybe shock-horror the kit part. Has anyone put a Vector UR.II into a Roden Dr.I kit with a Ron Kootje cowling?
Also: I'm interested in some opinions on wether the cowling in the above photos was painted green or just presents as bare metal? I'm legally blind
Oh, I may also have to dawn raid The Red Barron's stash of decals for the serial numbers :o
Oh, I'm also interested in the streaky green camouflage. I reckon this one was streaky green applied over a base coat of blue; so it would be green and blue.
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Sure, I'd be happy to send you a set :)
Thanks Justin, I'm getting a little excited about this one.
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Sure, I'd be happy to send you a set :)
Thanks Justin, I'm getting a little excited about this one.
We can tell!
;D
vB
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Steven - Check also the PART of Poland PE set for the Dr.I - You will find some useful parts.
(http://part.pl/s32/s32028.jpg)
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Ohhh Ahhh, thanks Beto! :o
Worth it just for the propeller hubs.
HA! I also see an instrument bezel.
And a nice skinny seat.
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When you find an etch set Steve let me know as I've been looking for some time with no luck! Probably just me with my head buried up my a@"#
Sean
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Have a look hear Sean, Jadar Hobby Shop, fourth item from the bottom.
http://www.jadar.com.pl/part/part-aircraft32a.htm
Des.
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Hi Steven,
start the FOkker and when you feel a burn out go to the spokes threading for litlle cooling :) Please hit us with some pictures immediately after the real start of the thing, even thou I have no idea how are you not going to change your mind gazillion times from now to the strat of the actual build :-D I suppose this is the sign of a mind, set on a specific target, not like mine wandering from one kit to the next and back
Have a look hear Sean, Jadar Hobby Shop, fourth item from the bottom.
http://www.jadar.com.pl/part/part-aircraft32a.htm
Des.
As far as I know, Jadar owns PART so this is the place to look for any PART PE fret
Bets regards,
SAsho
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Hmmm, I'll have to think about the engine. If Lukasz isn't available, I may have to use the kit part. The F.I kit has a resin engine, or it maybe shock-horror the kit part. Has anyone put a Vector UR.II into a Roden Dr.I kit with a Ron Kootje cowling?
I haven't actually tried to fit the Kootje cowling over the Vector engine, but Ron made the cowling with the Vector Ur in mind so it ought to fit :)
Lukasz (sorry Lukasz I always misspell your name) has announced a Ur.II is in the pipeline, and as RB suggests, I am pretty sure it will be the last word in realism. His other rotaries are just mind blowing. If I were you I'd kick the motor decision down the road and concentrate on the other stuff, hopefully when you get to it, the Taurus Ur.II will be available :)
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Oh, I'm also interested in the streaky green camouflage. I reckon this one was streaky green applied over a base coat of blue; so it would be green and blue.
I don't think so -- you can see the so-called "return" on the second photo -- indicating that the blue undersides were painted after the streaks. I would guess that streaks over CDL / blue undersides is correct for this one. But hey, it's WWI, no one knows anything for sure. :)
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I realise WW1 colours are a contentious subject (i.e. ‘pistols at dawn’ at the milder end of the argument scale).
From what I can gather it’s the two F1’s which ‘may’ have been overall blue (all surfaces) with streaks added on top of the blue – that’s one school of thought anyway.
The Dr.I’s painted as Bo mentions........ probably.......
Regards
Russell
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Hello Steven:
I can tell you are pumped about building this kit. I will be following along as you do it. Looks like you have your laundry list of goodies and this proves to be a fun build.
Best
Mark
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exciting news, i am putting the finishing touches on the exact same kit. i built it as a dr.1 though, in ltn hans korners colors. all the stuff is there to do either the f.1 or dr.1.
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Yes, I've got parts flying-in from all over the modelling universe. How exciting! :)
This aircraft will need some careful study regarding the colours. Streaky green camo over CDL, with the under-surfaces then painted blue, this makes sense (thank you). I'll do a proper update list and photos of the aftermarket parts just before committing the build. My head is full of very excited spaghetti today.
Oh, on the subject of spaghetti, I thought I'd share with you an update on Jamo's wheels (he's expecting an end of August delivery) ;D ;D ;D ;D
(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w626/StevenRobson/IMGP01892_zpsc21d63e3.jpg) (http://s1333.photobucket.com/user/StevenRobson/media/IMGP01892_zpsc21d63e3.jpg.html)
Better put these ones in the Hall of Shame Gallery and stop teasing Jamo, now back to your jigs and stay focused.
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Just got the Fokker Dr.I decals for JGII from Rowan, sheet No: 32002.
What a great joy it is when the decals arrive in the post from Pheon Models. :)
(I'll post photos when I stop prancing around the lounge room singing Deutschlandlied)
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love getting modelling goodies in the mail. takes me back to childhood when i used to mail order squadron . 2 weeks later you get the box with half dozen or so models and its like christmas in july. cant wait to see you get going on this kit mate.
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Just give the word, Steven!
The 'Strippers' will follow soon after!
;D ;D
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not what i had in mind when it come to strippers and bobs buckles. where did you get the pics of me dear old mom at work eh?
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Oh, that's really naughty of Nobby von Bobby! heheheheheh ;D (think I just wet myself)
Yes, I did contact Nobby for some strippers to improve the lovely curves and surface details of my Roden kit. I can see that I'll have to be very specific with Bob about what sizes I'm after.
I give the young lady 10/10 for being game. Now ALBATROS1234, if Nobby and your Mum are happy, that's all that counts. Clearly, the night life in London, errrr, caters for a diverse range of tastes (it's a brave man that will go out drinking on a Saturday night with Bob from Buckles).
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hows the old joke go......if you'd keep your mother at home things like that wouldnt happen. teehee