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Title: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: sodium on October 06, 2014, 03:12:42 AM: hello gentlemen

which model aircraft do you think it is ?

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/75/01/94/001_s10.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/75/01/94/002_s10.jpg)

philippe ;)
Title: Re: quizz 1/16 ème
Post by: Umlaufmotor on October 06, 2014, 04:46:21 AM: Morane Saulnier "N" ???

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: quizz 1/16 ème
Post by: Thumbs up on October 06, 2014, 05:00:48 AM: Maybe a Fokker E series?
Title: Re: quizz 1/16 ème
Post by: RAGIII on October 06, 2014, 05:02:05 AM: Either a Morane or a Nieuport, ealrly 10 or 11.
RAGIII
Title: Re: quizz 1/16 ème
Post by: KitRookie37 on October 06, 2014, 02:56:28 PM: Hello to all,
Nieuport 24 or 27 perhaps ?
It looks like 3D printing product, isn'it ?
Best regards.
Alain.
Title: Re: quizz 1/16 ème
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on October 06, 2014, 03:17:42 PM: fokker e.v/d.viii maybe morane "n"
Title: Re: quizz 1/16 ème
Post by: sodium on October 06, 2014, 11:47:21 PM: Thank you for your participation

Congratulation Bertl !
very quick and good answer : Morane type N

I started this project some months ago.
My challenge was to study the drawings basics in order to obtain 3d parts and laser cut wood parts.

Morane is les Casques de Cuir and Memorial Flight project

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/75/01/94/00310.jpg)

http://www.lescasquesdecuir.com/n-projet.php

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/75/01/94/00410.jpg)

http://memorial.flight.free.fr/Projets.html

cordialement
philippe
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: sodium on October 06, 2014, 11:52:17 PM: and now in blue

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/75/01/94/diapos16.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/75/01/94/img_0011.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/75/01/94/img_0012.jpg)

à bientôt
philippe
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on October 07, 2014, 02:27:25 PM: great phillipe, will you cover the laser cut wings with some fabric simulation covering or leave it naked?
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: sodium on October 08, 2014, 12:39:21 AM: hello

yes, it will be naked

and to close general presentation

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/75/01/94/01110.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/75/01/94/01210.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/75/01/94/01310.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/75/01/94/01410.jpg)

à bientôt
philippe
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: Pgtaylorart on October 08, 2014, 02:29:28 AM: Hi Philippe,

Very nice 3D work. Also, the 3D printed parts are very clean and precise. Where and how are you getting the parts printed, if I may ask? I work with 3D using Maya and Rhino and am looking for a way to print parts that are as detailed as yours, but most places I've found can't do the quality and small detail I'm looking for. Any info you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
George
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: sodium on October 08, 2014, 11:32:27 PM: Hello george

I use Solidworks software and Shapeways Frosted Ultra Detail material.
It’s very interesting for the little parts but surface aspect is not as good as we will hope when we want large parts. So, for engine cowlings, I used Metallic Plastic Alumide Material.

For my model, I have used 3d parts to represent the real metal pieces and wood for the rest. Perhaps a completed model in Frosted would be interesting but in a smaller scale.

à bientôt
philippe
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: Pgtaylorart on October 09, 2014, 06:00:05 AM: Thanks for your reply Philippe. I've been looking into Shapeways but wasn't sure about the quality of the fine detail. I think I'll give them a try based on your results.

A cool thing about Shapeways is that you can also make your model available for sale on their website. I'd buy yours if it were available.

Thanks,
George
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: coyotemagic on October 19, 2014, 04:20:57 AM: Your usual remarkable work, Phillipe! This will be a joy to follow.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: Des on October 19, 2014, 06:34:49 AM: I am always fascinated by the 3D printing technology and the different results I have seen, I will be following this build closely, what you have achieved so far looks very impressive.

Des.
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: Jamo on October 19, 2014, 10:04:01 AM: That looks much better than some other 3D printed models I have seen. Very nice!
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: Alexis on October 23, 2014, 11:05:27 AM: I'm very impressed with the level of detail , will be following along as you progress 8)

Terri
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: sodium on November 12, 2014, 09:57:55 AM: hello
thank you
laser cut wood parts

(http://i59.servimg.com/u/f59/11/75/01/94/015s10.jpg)

(http://i59.servimg.com/u/f59/11/75/01/94/18s10.jpg)
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: uncletony on November 12, 2014, 10:00:28 AM: Cool! 8)
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: sodium on November 12, 2014, 10:12:38 AM: Thank you Bud, Des, Jamo, Terri, Bo

wood wings are ready

(http://i59.servimg.com/u/f59/11/75/01/94/19s10.jpg)

(http://i59.servimg.com/u/f59/11/75/01/94/20s10.jpg)

(http://i59.servimg.com/u/f59/11/75/01/94/22s10.jpg)

à bientôt
philippe
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: sodium on November 26, 2014, 02:19:23 AM: I begin assembling the airframe

(http://i59.servimg.com/u/f59/11/75/01/94/24s10.jpg)

(http://i59.servimg.com/u/f59/11/75/01/94/25s10.jpg)

(http://i59.servimg.com/u/f59/11/75/01/94/26s10.jpg)

à bientôt
philippe
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: coyotemagic on November 26, 2014, 02:35:15 AM: What a spectacular start, Phillipe! This is going to be such a joy to watch unfold.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: uncletony on November 26, 2014, 03:56:34 AM: Yay! Awesome.
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: KitRookie37 on November 26, 2014, 04:45:15 AM: Hello to all,
Simply silly !!! What accuracy !!
How do you do your eyelets, Philippe ?
Best regards.
Alain.
PS: Je confirme qu'on se verra en mars. Amicalement.
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: Umlaufmotor on November 26, 2014, 04:50:05 AM: Absolutely brilliant!

..............??? can you scaled down this to 1/32 scale? ??? :-*

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: lone modeller on November 26, 2014, 06:25:39 AM: Exceptional piece of modelling - but my it will be big when it is finished!
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: sodium on November 27, 2014, 04:17:24 AM: Thanks gents

Alain, wrap of iron wire. I should soon receive much smaller turnbuckles ... I will do a photo to show the result.
Glad that you can come to our exhibition
amicalement

Lone modeler, my 1/16 Morane will be almost 2 times smaller than the new 1/32 Felixstow.
So if you build one, you can go to 1/16 8).
It’s big for a plastic model but quite necessary for me if I want to use wood. It’s the challenge for this model.
Farman is just fantastic project ! great model !!

Bertl, I drew many pieces trying to preserve the possibility of reducing the scale off 1/20, the scale of my last models, or even 1/32.
At the moment, I think a 1/32 3D model will be too weak …
I hope to manage to build my model in 1/16.
After, if I have the courage, It would be an interesting challenge.
We shall see; I have an AI which waits for me

à bientôt
philippe
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: sodium on December 15, 2014, 02:18:50 AM: up
Le Rhône

(http://i59.servimg.com/u/f59/11/75/01/94/image310.jpg)

(http://i59.servimg.com/u/f59/11/75/01/94/image410.jpg)

(http://i59.servimg.com/u/f59/11/75/01/94/image610.jpg)
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: sodium on December 15, 2014, 02:21:38 AM: and model parts

(http://i59.servimg.com/u/f59/11/75/01/94/30_s10.jpg)

(http://i59.servimg.com/u/f59/11/75/01/94/31_s10.jpg)

(http://i59.servimg.com/u/f59/11/75/01/94/32_s10.jpg)
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: sodium on December 15, 2014, 02:25:30 AM: détails

(http://i59.servimg.com/u/f59/11/75/01/94/img_0010.jpg)

(http://i59.servimg.com/u/f59/11/75/01/94/img_0011.jpg)

à bientôt
philippe
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: radio on December 15, 2014, 03:38:13 AM: Fantastic Philippe.
Martin
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: KitRookie37 on December 15, 2014, 04:57:25 AM: Hello to all,
Just saying:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvUL28Skt6E
;D
Friendly.
Alain.
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: xan on December 15, 2014, 05:13:08 AM: Hey you! when I saw a morane type N at 1/16 scale, I knew who was behind sodium...
So you were hiding yourself in the other side of the earth, but I find you!
seriously, very glad to see you here! Your presence in this forum confirm the good imptression I had about it...
the fuselage is "magnifique" really!
So blue protective colour (varnish) was not applied only in nieuport metal parts but in Morane saulnier too.
Was it the case of all french plane metal parts. since 14 until 18 ?
what about the rings, would you say they could have been blue too?
I will soon start here a Morane Saunier type L parasol...
i come to Bron too, we will have surely what about to talk...

Xan
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: coyotemagic on December 15, 2014, 02:37:43 PM: That engine is absolutely phenomenal, Phillipe! Then, of course, we've come to expect nothing less!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: Des on December 15, 2014, 03:01:16 PM: The fuselage and wings are amazing but the engine is absolutely incredible, brilliant work to date.

Des.
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: pepperman42 on December 15, 2014, 03:55:12 PM: Just catching up on this amazing project. The model and technology are stunning!!!!

Steve
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: RAGIII on December 15, 2014, 11:57:34 PM: Quote from: pepperman42 on December 15, 2014, 03:55:12 PM
Just catching up on this amazing project. The model and technology are stunning!!!!

Steve

I agree completely! Stunning work to date!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: sodium on December 16, 2014, 02:56:25 AM: Thank you for kind words

world war one model site isn’t a good hiding place ;)
xan, blue color is just artistic
hope you will show us here Nieuports et next Morane L story

à bientôt
philippe
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: lone modeller on December 18, 2014, 03:45:22 AM: I can only add my compliments to those already expressed here. I can only dream of building something like this at this level of quality. You are making a dream come true.
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: sodium on December 21, 2014, 06:22:51 AM: thank you lone modeller.
you draw a piece and you have a piece :) I don't know if it's a dream but it's very interesting to do it.
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: sodium on December 21, 2014, 06:28:50 AM: we are following with cowlings and tanks

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/75/01/94/img_9111.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/75/01/94/img_9112.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/75/01/94/img_9113.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/75/01/94/img_9114.jpg)
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: sodium on December 21, 2014, 06:31:04 AM: and finally wheels

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/75/01/94/nouvea10.jpg)

à bientôt
philippe
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: Des on December 21, 2014, 06:52:14 AM: Incredible work, your attention to detail is amazing.

Des.
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: xan on December 21, 2014, 08:57:34 AM: All the parts are just perfect. exactly as the reals as far as I can remenber.
Perhaps, just one thing: the wheel "protections" (les caches),weren't they more flexible than that (as the type L had)

[edit] I found that pic to illustrate what I am traying to say:

(http://nsm08.casimages.com/img/2014/12/20//14122011554318634312810767.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=14122011554318634312810767.jpg)
perhaps could you "rework" them later ?

anyway your work is amazing! total respect!

Xan
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: Ernie on December 21, 2014, 03:17:01 PM: Fantastic work, Philippe!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: KitRookie37 on December 21, 2014, 05:39:52 PM: Hello to all,
A stunning work !!! You're a killer, Philippe.
Friendly.
Alain.
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: sodium on December 22, 2014, 02:48:04 AM: hello
thank you gents
xan, you are right, I chose to put wheel covers in good shape
at my level, it's difficult enough to draw good parts ;D
philippe
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: lone modeller on December 22, 2014, 03:35:53 AM: Brilliant!
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: radio on December 22, 2014, 05:46:21 AM: Stunning work!
Martin
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on December 24, 2014, 05:42:14 PM: this looks amazing, this is one of my favorite planes.
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: Umlaufmotor on December 25, 2014, 03:34:14 AM: Beautiful, really beautiful work, Philippe!!

I like very well your cowling and the tank.
Also, I really like very much this little Morane "Bullet".

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: Chuckt5 on December 26, 2014, 05:20:17 AM: Amazing work! Really looking forward to more.
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: sodium on December 28, 2014, 03:23:20 AM: hello
thank you for nice comments

it beguins to look like a bullet

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/75/01/94/img_9610.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/75/01/94/img_9611.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/75/01/94/img_9612.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/75/01/94/img_9613.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/75/01/94/img_9614.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/75/01/94/img_9615.jpg)
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: sodium on December 28, 2014, 03:27:20 AM: and it beguins to look like Le Rhône

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/75/01/94/img_9618.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/75/01/94/img_9619.jpg)

(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/75/01/94/img_9712.jpg)

à bientôt
philippe
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: KitRookie37 on December 28, 2014, 03:45:45 AM: Hello to all,
C'est du mozart... :) :)
I love it !!!
Friendly.
Alain.
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: xan on December 28, 2014, 08:29:35 AM: your fuselage is just fantastic! perfect! really!
are going to let it like that or are you going to cover it with fabric?
Xan
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: Des on December 28, 2014, 08:51:09 AM: Excellent work Philippe, the fuselage looks amazing.

Des.
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: xan on December 28, 2014, 10:15:40 AM: Quote from: xan on December 28, 2014, 08:29:35 AM
are going to let it like that or are you going to cover it with fabric?
I saw the answer in the first page, sorry :-[
Xan
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: coyotemagic on December 28, 2014, 11:53:30 AM: Phillipe, my mind struggles to find words to express the sense of awe that I feel viewing this work of art. If I can think of any, you'll be the first to know.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: radio on December 28, 2014, 08:51:03 PM: Fantastic! ;D
Martin
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: WarrenD on January 02, 2015, 01:35:33 AM: Phillipe, this is just wonderful!

Warren
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: RAGIII on January 07, 2015, 09:54:51 AM: Quote from: coyotemagic on December 28, 2014, 11:53:30 AM
Phillipe, my mind struggles to find words to express the sense of awe that I feel viewing this work of art. If I can think of any, you'll be the first to know.
Cheers,
Bud

I can't say it better than my Amigo! Just SUPERB!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: xan on January 08, 2015, 02:43:56 AM: Hello Philippe,
about the holes of the empennage commandsn are they the same in the type N?
(http://nsm08.casimages.com/img/2015/01/05//15010511572318634312852765.jpg)

Xan
Title: Re: Morane type N 1/16 ème
Post by: sodium on January 08, 2015, 03:14:28 AM: thank you very much :)

xan
I think they will be more rectangular than rond but it's just speculation, nothing to this detail is definitive
philippe