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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: RichieW on February 22, 2020, 11:58:22 PM
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Hi everybody, having recently joined this is my first attempt at a build log. This is only my second WW1 aircraft the first being a WNW Eindekker.
I got the internals together without any real alarms but got frustrated by my shaky hands and poor eyesight whilst trying to add the control lines. I took the easy way out and left them.
https://flic.kr/p/2itZgpT
I was hoping to add a Kellerkind pilot figure but after a fun few hours spent painting him he was never going to fit so I'll save him for another day when I can face carrying out the necessary surgery.
https://flic.kr/p/2itZbfz
I hope the pictures are visible.
I'm not a very good modeller so this might be of interest to other less gifted folk who want to have a go at this kit. Hopefully I can get a few hints and tips from the superb modellers on this site.
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I would say you are doing an excellent job!
You may be new to WW1, but you aren't new to modelling.
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Welcome to the world of build Logs! Your Modeling looks Just fine to Me. Too bad about the figure not fitting. I had the same thing with My Camel build with a different pilot. Looking great so keep posting! As for the photos it has been a while since I used Flicr. There is another option you can use so the photos show and not the link. I don't remember which one but I am sure someone else will ;D
RAGIII
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Impressive start, Richie
I hope the pictures are visible.
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I don't have a Flickr account ... so went through an awkward process ("Inspect" the Flickr pictures in Chrome to get the URLs, and then insert those into this post). An easier way is to click on the "Share photo" arrow on the lower right of the Flickr photo page, then click "BBCode", and copy/paste that into your post. But there's got to be an easier way, I would think. :-[
Gene K
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Thanks so much for that Gene. Will try posting like next update. I've joined the fuselage today but my tail skid fell out. Reckon it won't be too difficult to remedy. Got a bit of Mr. dissolved putty on, very little required, these are such impressive kits!
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"I'm not a very good modeller so this might be of interest to other less gifted folk who want to have a go at this kit"
There's a huge contradiction in your statement here Richie! It certainly doesn't apply to the photos of your cockpit! Comments to the effect that we as a group are our own worst critics are often made here and it's so true. Very nice work, and I look forward to seeing more.
Cheers,
Lance
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LOL, thanks Lance, that is very kind of you. I am however very clumsy and accident prone, in the process of getting the cockpit together I managed to spill an entire pot of contact adhesive with the result that I, my cutting matt and several pots of paint were stuck to the bench for rather a long time!😂
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Spilling?! That's why I never buy just one of any liquid modelling supplies, two or more is prudent in my case! :-[ ::)
Cheers,
Lance
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All accidents aside, looks great.
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Wow! Very impressive work there Richie!
Don't be too critical of your work, it looks really good to me. All the more impressive with eyesight and hand issues.
I really relate to your situation. I've had cataract surgery to fix the eyes but I have diabetic nerve damage to my hands which has seriously impacted on my detail work. I have a Wingnuts Camel and Pfalz D.XII both sitting abandoned on a shelf due to horrible modelling disasters related to these conditions.
The solution is to push on with another project and not be deterred by pieces of plastic. Your Camel looks really great and having been there with this kit I'm all the more impressed with your progress. Great figure painting too!
Please keep us updated with your build log. And don't worry about those internal control lines. Once the fuselage is closed up and the top wing on you can barely see any detail in the cockpit anyway. The side bracing wires are much more visible and look great.
cheers
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Thanks so much Dave, yes it's more about enjoying the process and if the end result isn't great I can always the Shuttleworth collection to see the real thing.
I got a headband with magnifying lenses and lights yesterday. It was great to be able to see what I'm trying to do. I found that by bracing my wrists against the bench I could reduce the hand shakes. Your problems sound very severe but it's a big win for you to be soldiering on.
Juan, many thanks for the encouragement. I got the engine done yesterday so hope to get an update up later. In the meantime I have to try to get the tail skid back in fuselage and get a bit of sanding done on the fuselage seams.
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Looks good to me, one thing to remember tough is make sure to scrape the paint of the surface where glue is applied. The first WNW kits have very tight tolerances making the parts not fit if there is paint on them, also making the glue not stick properly.
So before you glue this in place in the fuselage make sure to sand the sides clear of paint.
Ron
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Thanks Ron, that would explain why it was such a wrestling match to get the fuselage together! Will remember this for the next one, got the WNW triplane lined up.
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I could easily be reading your 10th build log :o
Lovely work!
von B
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Wow, Richie! Impressive work and looking good! A really amazing lesson to some of us that have modelled for years - and still can't do it this good! Looking forward to more.... Regards, Marc.
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Thank you Marc, I really appreciate the generous encouragement. I didn't have a great day with it today. Will post some pictures tomorrow.
My signature glue thumb print appeared whilst trying to get the tail skid back in.
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Richie,
Don't be discouraged by the tailskid mishap, I've built two of these and done the same to both. (along with snapping off several cabane struts as well!) I usually try to modify the skid so that it can be added towards the end of a Build as early installation is tempting fate, at least in my case. Although I found this Kit to be a really well thought out and engineered one it is not the easiest Build in the WNW line in my opinion. It's all about learning the pitfalls through experience, and enjoying the experience as well. It's coming along very nicely!
Cheers,
Lance
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Richie
If you are having issues trying to hold a model steady during painting/ rigging etc, I recommend getting a desktop vice of the sort illustrated here.
(https://i.postimg.cc/5yFvVCKm/desk-vice-july-2017.jpg)
Mine is an essential aide now. It has a suction base, can be set at any angle imaginable and has rubber grips so as not to harm the model. It means I have a steady holder for the model so I can focus on the detail work.
This one came from the Aldi supermarket chain in Australia which has special deals on all manner of other items such as home handyman supplies. In America I'd imagine WalMart would have something similar.
cheers
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Now that is some impressive work Richie :)
Like the others , don't be to hard on yourself . You are doing fine and go at your pace . I would say that the majority of us have mishaps with every build . I know I do and some builds quite the few of them before it's finished .Kept at the excellent work and I look forward to the next up-date :)
Terri
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I will chime in with the others. I have 25 WW1 1/32nd scale models in My display cases and not a single one was finished without having to overcome a self generated mistake :( Some I had to step away from before returning to finish them. I think the vise that Dave showed might help your situation, or one of the jigs available. Just have Fun!
RAGIII
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Thanks chaps you really are the best. Your kind words are very encouraging! Despite the mishaps my morale remains high, I'm thrilled to be working on such a beautifully engineered kit. It's all a very far cry from the flash infested kits we all built as kids.
Terri, thanks that vice looks just the thing. Will have a shop around for something similar. The model you are working on (Bristol Scout?)
looks beautiful too!
I had the afternoon to myself and made a start on removing the evidence of my tail skid/glue adventure. I then donned my magnifying visor and set about adding ignition leads to the engine. I'm really pleased to have done this, it won't be very visible but it's good practice for the main rigging event much later.
I also sanded and micromeshed the fuselage join, little bit of Mr Surfacer to go on and I think I'm there. Oh yes, you may have noticed that I managed to knock the pads off the machine guns. definitely not going to worry about that as they wouldn't really be seen anyway. :)
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Fair bit of touching up to do, I seem to have rubbed off the paint on the engine's pusher rods by over buffing them to get them shiny. Easily remedied.
Many thanks for looking in. As ever any tips, hints or criticisms are greatly appreciated. I so keen to learn!
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oops, forgot to add the propeller pic. I used Vallejo model colour paints for the wood, I've grown to love these. Nice and easy to use and brush cleaning is a doddle! :)
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Nicely done work on the plug wires. Also your tail skid fix seems to have worked well. My fingers are crossed that I don't run into the same issue and or break a cabane strut Like Lance ::) The prop looks great as does the interior mounted in the fuselage!
RAGIII
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Glad you figured out Flickr photo linking so we can better enjoy your beautiful build.
Gene K
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Thanks Rag, I'm starting to have a lot more fun now I've got a few clumsy blunders out of the way and found that the world didn't end!
Hi Gene, thanks for telling me how to post the pictures. I followed your suggestion to the letter and hey presto, pictures! Will get the SLR out at some point and see if I can get some better quality shots done.
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Your progress is moving right along , and very nicely too boot !
Well I'm not sure what you mean thank -you about the vice , Dave posted the pic from his very own work bench . But I don't mind being Dave for a few moments and say ...you are very welcome ;)
I don't have a Bristol scout on the bench , but again I guess I will have to get one going sooner or later . At the moment I have a Hansa Brandenburg D.1 on the bench and I just finished a ME 410 in the off topic build section and just started another Mustang .
I'm glad you are enjoying yourself and having a ball , that's what it really is about in the end .
Terri
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Hi Richie
That model in the grip of the desktop vice is a Special Hobby 1/32 scale Bristol M.1c monoplane. A very nice kit with good detail.
It's not Wingnuts level but nor is it Wingnuts price!
Here it is completed ( brush painted) and posted here to encourage you that hand/ eye health issues can be coped with to produce a fun project like your Camel. I've bought another of the Special Hobby Bristols as I enjoyed this build so much.
(https://i.postimg.cc/bNfC0FN1/IMG-0023.jpg)
cheers
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Sorry Dave and Terri, confusion has always been a feature of my life! Thanks for your kind comments though!
Dave a package just arrived with a desk vice in it, ig it can help me complete a build to the standard of that beautiful Bristol I will be well pleased. That kit might well be a good choice for a WW1 novice.
Richie
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Not much to report, been suffering the usual mishaps and flu bugs but managed to get some paint on the wings.
The lower surfaces were painted with my usual Mr Hobby acrylics. I had a severe attack of dust so had to strip the first attempt and repaint.
Upper surfaces are MRP early PC10. This is my first experience of this paint. I found it to be so thin with such fine pigments that the tiniest little imperfections show up quite badly. Drying time is very fast though.
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Sadly the imperfections on the fuselage were not so tiny which is why it has been sanded, refilled and primed. Hopefully it will be good enough for another bit of painting tomorrow.
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Still enjoying the kit despite the blunders, it's all part of the learning process. I'm learning quite a lot! :)
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Keep up the great work!
And don't worry about making 'blunders' we all do! That's how we progress.
Cheers,
Von Blunder Bus
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Thanks Bob, yes it's all part of the fun. Wondering what to build next. Would really like an easier project. I have the Sopwith Tripe, Pup and a CSM Nieuport in the stash but I'm sure they all have their own idiosyncrasies.
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I like the PC 10 color. Looks great. I had the samer experience with the Extra Color PC 10. All imperfections showed. That is why I had to sand, polish and re paint the fuselage 8) Looking forward to your next update Richie!
RAGIII
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Thanks Rick, there's a bit more sanding and painting to do after today's little escapade. I shook up the PC10 paint to mix it and the lid wasn't on properly. Arghhhh!!!!!! Going to leave it for a few days now. Apart from anything else my system needs a rest from the strong odours of the MRP solvent. Still smiling though! :)
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Just found this Richie, sorry to be late to the party.
I am a scratch builder and do not build kits but I am extremely impressed by your work. You referred to less able modellers in your introduction but I do not think that you are among them! I too suffer a little from shaky hands and eyesight which I would like to be better, but there are ways of getting around these problems: I use an eye loupe (magnifier which I can clip to my glasses), and ia rest my hands on my desk when I am suffering from handshake.
The photos of your models show that you work at the highest standard - as good as many on this site and better than many models that I have seen at club exhibitions. You have nothing to be ashamed of, believe me. As Lance has commented, we are our own worst critics (guess how I know).
Stephen.
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Thank you so much for your kind words Stephen, I really appreciate the encouragement! I've invested a bit of cash recently in a modelling vice, an LED desk lamp and a magnifying visor which have all been so helpful. Been bracing my forearms against the bench to try to keep the hands steady too. I think these measures have given me a new lease of life. I will always be clumsy and accident prone, a better organised work bench might be help me there!
Yes, I agree with Lance's comment. We are all our own worst critics. Maybe that's why we keep at it to make the next build a little better.
I have actually shelved more kits than I've finished in the last few years. Funny thing is when I come to look at them again I can't see why I was so disappointed in my efforts in the first place.
Would love to have a go at scratch building something. I saw an original airworthy Bleriot last week. It really made me wonder if I could make one from scratch. Must check some of your build logs to see what techniques are involved.
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You folks bring a lot of joy into my life :) :) :) Nice progress with the wings Richie . I haven't use the brand of paints you mentioned , but Tamiya's new lacquer line is the same . Very thin and shows everything !
Terri
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Richie,
I scratch built a Bleriot Penguin (trainer) in 1/72 scale some years ago. The build thread is here if you are interested:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=2972.msg49697#msg49697
I have also built a 1/32 scale Vickers Gunbus which may have some more suitable information. It is here:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=9631.msg178738#msg178738
Stephen.
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Thanks Stephen, that's great. I have bookmarked them for a thorough read later. Much appreciated!
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Have done a lot more sanding and polishing with micromesh cloths and got the fuselage painted. far from perfect but I'm a lot happier with it. Got a bit of retouching to do, hopefully that and a bit of weathering followed by a satin clear coat will help. I managed to break off one of the latches that clip onto the cowling, I will see if I can fashion something out of sprue to replace it.
The 'metal' parts of the frame were painted with flat aluminium and varnished before a very thin coat of Tamiya rubber black was added. The intention is to add a few scratches with a cocktail stick later.
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I couldn't resist seeing what it might look like as a biplane. I quite like it! :)
The 3 top wing pieces are not glued together yet and the lower wing is just dry fitted. I'm going to leave this alone for a few days now, I don't know enough about how MRP paints harden to risk any more blunders or finger prints.
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Thanks for reading, as ever all comments, criticisms and advice are very welcome.
Richie
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Your Camel is really looking awesome Richie! I forgot to mention the minor point of breaking off one of those cowl latches in My build log. So I am right there with you on fabricating a New One!
RAGIII
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LOL, they certainly are very delicate Rick. I'm stunned that I still have the right number of cabana struts but there's plenty of time to join the club. ;)
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LOL, they certainly are very delicate Rick. I'm stunned that I still have the right number of cabana struts but there's plenty of time to join the club. ;)
Yep, Congrats are in order on the number of Cabanes remaining! I came close yesterday to making it 2 down ::)
RAGIII
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Got a few decals on the fuselage, it's looking a lot more cheerful now. I still have 4 cabanes but one needed reinforcing with a little CA, I so nearly joined the club! I decided to do Raymond Collishaw's 'Black Maria' thinking I could get decals for the WNW triplane to model Dixie II which I recently met at the Shuttleworth collection. I'll have to rethink that one!
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I'm not quite ready to put the wing roundels on yet, I added some castor oil staining to the wings with the airbrush. I so wish I'd used oils instead but I can live with this I think. I also painted the contents of the inspection ports. and the wooden cutaway in the top wing, this will get a spray of clear yellow when dry.
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But just when I was starting to feel it was all going well I had a look at what I'd done underneath the fuselage yesterday and found this....
AAARRGGHHHHHH!!!!!!
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That's a pretty good thumb print even by my standards. I'm not sure quite how I managed to do it but I see a bit of careful masking and painting in my near future. :)
Thanks for reading.
Richie
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Excellent progress Richie! I think you managed a better fit on the upper deck than I did. Looking great with the Markings going on. As for that fingerprint... Stuff Happens. A bit of sanding and touch up will take care of the issue!
RAGIII
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Thanks Rick, keep leading the way. Looks like I timed joining the forum to perfection!
Yes the thumb print is just a minor disappointment, a little bit more sanding and repainting is fine. I'm enjoying the build so much I don't want it to end so it's a good thing! :)
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You're doing lovely work on the Camel, Richie and to top it off, you're doing the livery of one of my idols. Magic!
Every modeller worth his/her wings has etched finger prints into their creations. It's part and parcel of the hobby, but thankfully, one of the easiest things to solve.
Keep up the good work!
Von Buckle 8)
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Thanks Bob, I've been doing a lot of reading recently on this period of aviation and Raymond Collishaw seems to have been an extraordinary pilot and leader.
I found your superb build of his triplane recently, what a great tribute.
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This is making excellent progress - thumb print aside! What a relief to know that I can at least be a member of th thumb prints club!!!
Stephen.
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;D Thanks Stephen, I imagine there's quite a large membership of the thumb print club. It's been my house style for years. Spitfires and Hurricanes have been utterly plastered with them since childhood.
I seem to spend far more time correcting things like this than anything else. All part of the fun!
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You know you are becoming a Master Modeler when you get your fixing screw ups to actual building ratio down around 1:1.
I still remember the Aurora Dr.I in maroon and black plastic covered in glue fingerprints I got for my 5th birthday. At least I got the decals on in the right places thanks to raised markings Aurora so helpfully molded into their models.
Those finger prints on your Camel will disappear without a trace after a gentle rub down. Welcome to the fingerprint club...if you aren't already a member.
sp
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Thanks SP, I'm not sure I'll ever be a master modeller but I shall certainly have fun trying. I'll be thrilled if I can end up with a reasonable representation of a Sopwith Camel at the end of this build but aim to do better with the next project.
I remember trying to build an airfix 1/72 Camel as a five year old, there were thumb prints galore and tears before bedtime! ;D
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What a week it has been! hope you are all well and taking care of your health and your loved ones.
Well I got my workspace back after Mrs W and I rearranged our tiny home so she could work at home and I could pursue my hobby. In my last update I had a beautiful thumb print to remove so my first job was to deal with that. I had sprayed Vallejo satin varnish to protect the decals from masking before the upheaval.
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Next job was break a couple of cabanes to gain entry to the elite club of Sopwith Camel cabane snappers. This I did by carefully dropping it so I still had one left on each side.
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I'm not too worried about it because I know I can sort it out but if you look carefully at the fuselage decals you can see that the varnish did nothing to protect the decals and the got pretty shredded.
Did you know that Rowney odourless turps strips Vallejo satin varnish? I didn't either but I tried to cover my decal repairs with an oil wash, stripped the varnish and shredded the decals a little more!
These decals are lovely in some respects but so brittle, you can see all the little pieces missing here. Again not worried, I can always touch them up with paint or spare bits of decal. I used Micro sol on them, perhaps this is part of the problem.
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I'm not ready to declare this innings closed yet but will treat it all a learning experience. There are far bigger problems in the world right now so I'm still smiling!
I hope this post has raised a smile, I said at the outset I was a clumsy man and am actually quite pleased with how it's going. Got to keep yourself occupied in these challenging times!
Happy modelling and thanks for reading.
Richie
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First I want you to know that you really didn't need to One Up me on the cabanes ::) Next I like how she is coming along with the markings applied! Great scheme. Valejo clears are a bit of a Mystery to Me. They work great but on My Camel It seems they are staying a bit tacky ??? I think on future builds I will go back to Tamiya for the clear coats. Never had a problem with oil washes or not drying properly! I am looking forward to your continued progress!
RAGIII
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Haha, thanks Rick. I actually feel quite liberated now it's all gone a bit pear shaped. I'm learning so much from this build and will see it through to the end. It won't win any beauty contests but I'm having fun with it still. Have ordered another eindekker to have a relatively stress free build. Got a Roden SE5a on it's way to me too.
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Never mind being in two clubs at once Richie - we can all regale each other on or modelling mishaps long into the night......
More importantly, this is looking a great deal better than you are allowing. Given that it is your first large biplane I think that you are making an excellent model - remember the 2nd rule of modelling: that although YOU can see all of the errors and bits that are not quite right, others rarely do - they just see the overall model.
Keep going because you will forget most of the problems in a couple of months too!
Stephen.
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Thanks so much Stephen, I really appreciate that. I'm enjoying the build still and think I can get a reasonably acceptable result. I've always been more artistic than practical so I'm learning a lot which is what is important.
I still plan to scratch build a Beriot XI and am busy researching materials plans etc. Will be bothering you for help soon.
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Richie , your Camel is turning out great so far :) I'm impressed with your work and your cheerfulness . Your Awesome ! Keep up the good work 8)
Terri
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Thanks Terri, I'm hoping to mount the top wing today. I have a cunning plan of how to reattach the cabanes. Having the 3 pieces still separate should make it easier. In cricketing terms the opening partnership was solid before a mid order batting collapse but I'm hoping the tail can wag and get us to a decent total. :)
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For the sake of my sanity this one has to go on the shelf for now. I haven't hoisted the white flag and will get this done in the end.
I have made up my own masks for the C on the fuselage and have some montex masks for the roundels. The registration codes are proving tricky to replicate.
Going to the stash now to see what seems the least challenging. Any recommendations?
I have the following:
WNW Sopwith Tripe
WNW Pup
CSM Nieuport
Roden SE5a
I'm remain cheerful about it all and am enjoying the challenges!
Best of health everybody!
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The Pup would be a relatively easy build. Are you looking for another challenging project, or a rebound project?
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Hi Kensar, thanks for the reply. Looking for a rebound project. Without exceptionall of the problems I've had here are entirely of my own making. It's fun trying to fix them but I need to relax during lockdown!
Love the Pup, such a beautiful little aircraft.
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Sorry to hear your Camel is sidelined but I understand the Need! I haven't built the Pup but I did find the triplane pretty straight forward. I have also built 2 of the CSM Nieuports and they are great kits but do require a lot of double checking of fit and construction sequence. I would certainly Save the Roden SE for a time when you want a challenge. JMHO,
RAGIII
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LOL, thanks Rick. I opened the Roden SE5a box and found the transparency sprue was missing so that one is ruled out!
I may have found an answer to the Camel woes but fancy either the Pup or the Tripe. The Shuttleworth collection replica Tripe is my absolute favourite aircraft. Was going to build it as that but for the sake of ease it would have to be Black Maria. Think I owe Collishaw that after trashing his Camel! :)
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We have all been there and done that Richie , and still do !
From the online builds I have seen here the Pup is a great choice . Nice little kit and straight forward . Even with the glass missing out of the Roden Se5a it has fit issues and other minor stuff . It does build into a beautiful kite . It will test your nerves to say the least .
The Triplane is also a excellent kite , not a lot of struts to mess with ;) What ever subject you choice , will be tagging along you do nice work 8)
Terri
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Thanks so much Terri, I'm going to make a start today. Nothing like a clear work bench and a set of freshly snagged sprues to get the mojo back. The Roden kit doesn't sound great! Looking at how chunky the Triplane cabanes are, I think it will be next in to bat.
Back soon!
Richie
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Thanks so much Terri, I'm going to make a start today. Nothing like a clear work bench and a set of freshly snagged sprues to get the mojo back. The Roden kit doesn't sound great! Looking at how chunky the Triplane cabanes are, I think it will be next in to bat.
Back soon!
Richie
The Triplane struts are indeed Sturdy! They also line up nicely.. I recall mounting the wings to be a pretty straight forward process.
RAGIII
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Sorry to read that you have had to put the Camel on one side for the moment - I do hope that you pick it up again in future as it has the makings of a first class model. I hope too that you will start another thread for the Tripehound or I for one will be totally confused!
Stephen.
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Thanks Stephen, I really appreciate the encouragement. Salvation is at hand for this one though. I just found out that HGW make wet transfer decals for the registration code and the fuselage C. Under our present circumstances they will take a while to get to me. I also have roundels that are a near perfect match.
I have been experimenting on plastic card with home made masks, the results were very encouraging but I was concerned that the colours weren't quite the same as the wing decals and painting white over dark PC10 seemed to come with plenty of problems.
In the meantime I'm carefully scrutinizing the Tripehound instructions before diving in on the rebound. I will start a new thread for it as soon as I have something to show, it looks like a really beautiful kit.
Richie
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The last anything was seen of this I was having major decal problems due to rough handling and overuse of micro sol amongst various other mishaps. The upper wings in particular suffered:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49845214816_d23b8385bf_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iWDKMs)20200501_161923 (https://flic.kr/p/2iWDKMs) by Richard Williams (https://www.flickr.com/photos/187004837@N07/), on Flickr
Not a pretty sight!
The only way round it was to mask and paint, I've masked camouflage marking on Spitfires and Hurricanes before but that doesn't require great precision so I practised painting roundels on plastic card and this morning managed to do this:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49845214481_d3fb1fb28d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iWDKFF)20200502_112759 (https://flic.kr/p/2iWDKFF) by Richard Williams (https://www.flickr.com/photos/187004837@N07/), on Flickr
Not perfect but a vast improvement on how it looked and I would certainly have settled for this result before starting. The fuselage roundels were replaced with 1/48 wing decals from a Pheon Triplane set, I didn't do a great job on them either so I may well mask them too. I'm a bit concerned about the fuselage stitching causing problems so will sleep on it. It's probably time I did some work on the Triplane and Roden SE5a. HHmmm, perhaps I should clear my desk up a bit first.
Thanks for reading.
Richie
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Very nice recovery Richie! The sprayed roundels are indeed a vast improvement. Much better than My patched up Camel Roundels!
RAGIII
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Thanks Rick, you've been with this one from the very start. Without the support and encouragement of this great forum I may well have administered the coup de grace to it with my cricket bat by now!
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Nice fix Richie. Those wings look very Good! Well done.
Best regards,
Bob
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Thanks Bob, it feels like a life time ago I started this build. I've made so many mistakes on it but because the kit was so expensive and no longer available I'm having to learn lots of new skills to correct them. This may even get finished one day!
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Excellent recovery with the roundels - I scribe mine with dividers and hand paint them on my models in God's Own Scale but that is not really practical in this Brobdignagian scale. I would be hard pressed to recognise those as being other than transfers.
Making mistakes and learning form them is a good thing to do in modelling - well it is for me at least as I am doing it all of the time! The key question is: does anyone know unless you tell them? If it looks good when you have finished then count it as a success!!
Stephen.
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Thanks as ever for you kind words Stephen. It took ages for me pluck up the courage to finally paint the roundels but I'm so glad I did.
Your technique sounds interesting, I was wondering how you hand painted your markings and always make them look so neat. I must admit that I am missing the one true scale but I wouldn't fancy my chances of success with any WW1 subjects!
I have finally learned to laugh at my mistakes and try to learn from them. I'm learning quite a lot! ;)