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Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 1183 Oblt.z.S. Christiansen
« Reply #45 on: January 10, 2017, 03:28:52 AM »
Thanks for looking and for your encouraging comment Juan!
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Lance

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Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 1183 Oblt.z.S. Christiansen
« Reply #46 on: January 10, 2017, 06:45:32 AM »
I agree with everyone else. Stunning build. Something to aspire to.
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Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 1183 Oblt.z.S. Christiansen
« Reply #47 on: January 11, 2017, 05:39:45 AM »
Absolutely first class work! Did you have a short during the modelling session of after? I can imagine that both could work well together!!

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Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 1183 Oblt.z.S. Christiansen
« Reply #48 on: January 11, 2017, 07:04:54 AM »
Thanks James!
Stephen, I never mix that pleasant experience with Building, I tried a few times when younger and the results, viewed next day, were predictably ghastly! :-[
Progress is slow but steady, I got a coat of colour on the fuselage and float bottoms today.
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Lance

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Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 1183 Oblt.z.S. Christiansen
« Reply #49 on: January 11, 2017, 09:19:31 AM »
Thanks James!
Stephen, I never mix that pleasant experience with Building, I tried a few times when younger and the results, viewed next day, were predictably ghastly! :-[
Progress is slow but steady, I got a coat of colour on the fuselage and float bottoms today.
Cheers,
Lance

Beautiful work on the Engine Lance! Perhaps the drink while working is where I am going wrong  ::)
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Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 1183 Oblt.z.S. Christiansen
« Reply #50 on: January 11, 2017, 01:06:44 PM »
   Thanks Rick. Watching your Builds the past couple of years I certainly can't question your logic nor results!
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Lance

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Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 1183 Oblt.z.S. Christiansen
« Reply #51 on: January 11, 2017, 01:35:18 PM »
Stephen, I never mix that pleasant experience with Building, I tried a few times when younger and the results, viewed next day, were predictably ghastly! :-[

Hmm I dunno -- I find a few sips of a nice red helps steady the ol' hands...

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Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 1183 Oblt.z.S. Christiansen
« Reply #52 on: January 11, 2017, 02:49:54 PM »
Stephen, I never mix that pleasant experience with Building, I tried a few times when younger and the results, viewed next day, were predictably ghastly! :-[

Hmm I dunno -- I find a few sips of a nice red helps steady the ol' hands...

Maybe that's my problem, I may have to reconsider my approach!
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Lance

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Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 1183 Oblt.z.S. Christiansen
« Reply #53 on: January 20, 2017, 08:25:08 AM »
   I'm way overdue for an update on this build and have made some progress recently. I'll break the update into two "installments"; here's the first.
I'm trying to paint the laminated prop to take advantage of the nicely molded brass end caps on the Kit version. If I don't like the results I'll fall back to my normal hand carved version and paint the brass tips on that. Here's the first step masked and ready to be wood grained with Winsor Newton Oils, pretty rough at this stage!



    The fuselage was closed up and the seams, after careful removal of excess paint, proved a minor challenge, requiring only a bit of CA as a filler and a single coat of Tamiya Primer before sanding.



All lozenge covered areas were given a good coat of Tamiya X2 Gloss white per Aviattic's instructions and the fuselage dorsal spine area and solid tailplane were decaled with the Aviattic "Naval Hex" Lozenge which behaved very well.



    I'm really pleased with the Lozenge; the fabric effect as seen here is very pleasing to the eye!



   The upper portions of the flying surfaces were done in white and the lowers left in grey for addition of the pre-shading in dark grey and flat black respectively. 




 

    The lozenge was applied in sections as I find it easier to manage that way. Care had to be taken to keep the "chord wise/ Span Wise orientation of the pattern correct.



    As I anticipated the floats proved a real challenge for decaling. The Kit Decals were used as templates, the Aviattic lozenge cut, and then the new decals were cut into three parts for application to the floats.





     Now I'll try for a few more photos and bring this Thread up to date before it gets away on me again!
Cheers,
Lance








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Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 1183 Oblt.z.S. Christiansen
« Reply #54 on: January 20, 2017, 05:58:16 PM »
Great progress, Lance.
There is one thing I stumble about. The pattern on the floats, I think, and please correct me if I am wrong, were painted on the wood of the floats and not covered by printed linen.
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Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 1183 Oblt.z.S. Christiansen
« Reply #55 on: January 20, 2017, 06:12:19 PM »
Super job Lance  :)

Yes, that fabric effect is beautiful isn't it?

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Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 1183 Oblt.z.S. Christiansen
« Reply #56 on: January 20, 2017, 06:39:44 PM »
Great work with the propeller Lance and the lozenge decals are looking excellent.

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Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 1183 Oblt.z.S. Christiansen
« Reply #57 on: January 20, 2017, 06:49:59 PM »
Lovely work Lance!
There's no proof either way regarding the floats - the ply turtledeck and "solid" part of the tail had fabric doped on (accounting for the colour shift you see in photos I believe - not a different colourway..) and so it is perfectly reasonable to consider that the float tops could also get this treatment. Whether paint or doped linen the later application of black bitumen to floats and struts indicates neither method was satisfactory for protecting them..
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Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 1183 Oblt.z.S. Christiansen
« Reply #58 on: January 20, 2017, 10:57:28 PM »
Thank you Richard, for clearing this point. So they really glued printed linen on the wood structure. There is no doubt, that I believe you, you are a well known specialist, but why did they do this? just for protection of the wood? or was it lazieness to avoid to paint it by hand?
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Manni
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Re: Wingnut Wings Hansa-Brandenburg W.12 1183 Oblt.z.S. Christiansen
« Reply #59 on: January 21, 2017, 01:01:22 AM »
Thanks for the comments and encouragement, Guys.
Manni, Richard has commented the same as my interpretation of the info on the finish of the floats, either fabric or painted on and, later on some examples, covered with the black bitumen-like finish. Either way I elected the decals rather then hand painting the intricate, and hard to match, pattern. I've stayed with the Hex finish on the floats to follow the scheme for Christiansen's #1183 per Rowan's Pheon Decal Instructions. I am of the opinion that, given we more or less know that the plywood spine and tail section were covered with the doped fabric, use of the same technique on the floats would not be an unreasonable assumption.
Cheers,
Lance