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Offline LindsayT

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Re: Effects of normal usage on finish of TVAL's WWI aircraft
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2013, 07:30:42 AM »

Hi Lindsay
Why don't you come over to EnZed on a holiday during the Summer? TVAL have an open hangar every weekend between November and April, plus three airshows over that time. You could lie on you back under a Bristol F2B or Albatros DVa and take all the photos you feel like. Heaps of other great wining & dining, hiking, art & craft, cheesemaking, bird sanctuaries, sight seeing and other fun activities are on offer (for the non-modelling wife as well). You only live once!
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Re: Effects of normal usage on finish of TVAL's WWI aircraft
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2013, 04:03:33 PM »
I think I can hear a chorus of sobbing :'( from all points of the compass........ ;)

Thanks for these photo's James, they are very interesting!

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Re: Effects of normal usage on finish of TVAL's WWI aircraft
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2013, 06:34:18 PM »
Thanks for the pics, very useful, as I guess the way the oil stains etc are propogated can be applied to other types too.

In addition to weathering, I wonder how many modellers would paint bird droppings on their aircraft!  They were outside a lot, afterall....

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Re: Effects of normal usage on finish of TVAL's WWI aircraft
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2013, 09:51:06 PM »
Wow! These are priceless pics. Thank you for taking the trouble to post these!!

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Re: Effects of normal usage on finish of TVAL's WWI aircraft
« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2013, 01:47:54 AM »
Very helpful photos, James.  Thanks a lot for posting them.

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Re: Effects of normal usage on finish of TVAL's WWI aircraft
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2013, 02:34:56 AM »


Jamo, Thanks for posting, great photos of "real" weathering.  Might well take you up on the earlier offer to visit NZ in Nov to April (Summer--O yes, you are below the Equator) for the shows.

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Re: Effects of normal usage on finish of TVAL's WWI aircraft
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2013, 05:29:24 PM »
I thought it might be interesting to revisit some of my old images regarding effects of usage and see how things have moved on. Here is the underside of the first Albatros DVA in March 2010 alongside what it now looks like:



It gets flown reasonably often for a working museum aircraft, but nothing like what daily usage would have been like in WWI.

Notice the horizontal streaking around the nails further down the fuselage
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Re: Effects of normal usage on finish of TVAL's WWI aircraft
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2013, 07:38:44 PM »
Great stuff for modellers, Jamo. Many thanks!
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Re: Effects of normal usage on finish of TVAL's WWI aircraft
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2013, 08:01:47 PM »
Again, very helpful James. Thank you.

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Re: Effects of normal usage on finish of TVAL's WWI aircraft
« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2013, 08:02:10 PM »
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Not saying I'd give up the former job if someone asked me, but it would take a lot of convincing.  ;)

Thanks for sharing James,

LT

I'd give up my job in a heartbeat if meant I got to take pictures of lovely oily ww1 aircraft in NZ + I would be able to share my English Tea making skills ( 26 years worth of knowledge  :) ) with all those fine lads who build, maintain and fly those wonderful birds.

Thanks for the pics Jamo. With your permission I would like to compile them into one PDF file for future reference.
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Re: Effects of normal usage on finish of TVAL's WWI aircraft
« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2013, 09:22:22 PM »
Thanks again James, more great photos to help the modeler.

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Re: Effects of normal usage on finish of TVAL's WWI aircraft
« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2013, 09:38:20 PM »
It's quite interesting to see that the oil seeps thru right the scarf joints -- I would have thought the (modern) glue there would be more or less impermeable...

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Re: Effects of normal usage on finish of TVAL's WWI aircraft
« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2013, 11:16:03 PM »
Wow!  Thanks for this goldmine of weathering information, James.
Wonderful photos.

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Re: Effects of normal usage on finish of TVAL's WWI aircraft
« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2013, 04:01:48 AM »
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Not saying I'd give up the former job if someone asked me, but it would take a lot of convincing.  ;)

Thanks for sharing James,

LT

I'd give up my job in a heartbeat if meant I got to take pictures of lovely oily ww1 aircraft in NZ + I would be able to share my English Tea making skills ( 26 years worth of knowledge  :) ) with all those fine lads who build, maintain and fly those wonderful birds.

Thanks for the pics Jamo. With your permission I would like to compile them into one PDF file for future reference.
Cheers,
Bob Von Teamaker-extraordinaire

What a good idea Bob! Yes sure. I might even have a go at that myself

Cheers
James
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Re: Effects of normal usage on finish of TVAL's WWI aircraft
« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2014, 05:18:16 AM »
Effects of fuel and oil spillage can be dramatic. This is the TVAL Avro 504k (original, restored)



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