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Title: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: rowan broadbent on April 15, 2017, 11:50:52 PM
MikroMir have just released a revised kit using, it seems, plastic from the Avis kit (with newly designed wing mouldings) with new photoetch and decals.

While waiting for the Camel to arrive.... I've begun work on a set of decals for this kit, which will include, amongst others, the full range of Jasta 6 individual markings, with Jasta tail stripes and cowling 'petals'.

My kit is on its way from the Ukraine, final adjustments to the decal tailoring must await its arrival, of course, but I hope to get these printed quite quickly. Update with profiles soon!
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: Juan on April 16, 2017, 12:13:28 AM
Thank you so much, the decals from the kit look sketchy and these will be a most welcome addition to the return of this Fokker.
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: Suffolk Lad on April 16, 2017, 12:18:36 AM
Great news Rowan, any idea of a time scale?

Tug
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: rowan broadbent on April 16, 2017, 12:50:42 AM
Hi Tug,

That will depend on how quickly the supplier in Ukraine gets the kit to me (no word on it being sent yet) and then I need time to tailor the decals to the plastic. I'm also into hospital for an op in eight days, so if that goes well I should be back at the keyboard in five days or so after that, they reckon. Then we get the artwork to the printers and join the queue - print lead times vary..... four to six weeks from then, maybe. So a few ifs and buts in there. Whatever, I hope that these won't take the year or so that the post-war Ninacks have taken!
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: TobyCoulson on April 16, 2017, 01:33:25 AM
I was sort of unsure whether to get this kit or not but the fact you're doing some decals for it has made my mind up to get one.  :)
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: Rob_Owens on April 16, 2017, 01:53:14 AM
Great news & just the supplier I'd hoped would tackle the job!! Now I can toss the scans of the AviS & Battle Axe kit decals I made, as I won't be forced to improvise my own!
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: RAGIII on April 16, 2017, 03:45:23 AM
I AM ALL IN for a set! If you need a pre payment let me know!!! I may even put my current Avis build on hold until you are ready! Thank You Rowan for all you do. You have made My DAY!!!!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: seiran01 on April 16, 2017, 04:09:06 AM
That's great news Rowan, 100% I'll be buying a set. Hope your operational is for nothing too serious and goes as well as it can.
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: rhwinter on April 16, 2017, 04:19:39 AM
Hi, Rowan, as I am not such a big fan of the D.VIII, I shall wait for the Camel decals. By the way: How's your work on this set coming along?
All the best for the OP, by the way!
Richard
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: Borsos on April 16, 2017, 04:31:44 AM
I also cross my fingers for your OP and wish you all the best.
To get two new decal sets in the nearer future is great news!
Borsos
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: mike in calif on April 16, 2017, 05:49:57 AM
First, I hope your op goes well, and you heal nicely.
 I have two of these coming, so am in the qeue, so to say.
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: Suffolk Lad on April 16, 2017, 06:00:53 AM
Hi Tug,

That will depend on how quickly the supplier in Ukraine gets the kit to me (no word on it being sent yet) and then I need time to tailor the decals to the plastic. I'm also into hospital for an op in eight days, so if that goes well I should be back at the keyboard in five days or so after that, they reckon. Then we get the artwork to the printers and join the queue - print lead times vary..... four to six weeks from then, maybe. So a few ifs and buts in there. Whatever, I hope that these won't take the year or so that the post-war Ninacks have taken!


Thanks for the reply Rowan - can't promise I can wait that long so won't commit to an order herewith but even so will use your lozenge decal if not  :) That said of course I won't be picking it up straight away so that may change

Hope your op goes well, all the best for a speedy recovery.

Tug
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: Jamo on April 16, 2017, 07:44:22 AM
That is exciting news Rowan!. Could there be room for a Saxon coat of arms?
Cheers
James

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Z%20Oddments/12-fokker-ev-157-18.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: petrov27 on May 12, 2017, 02:54:44 AM
Hi Rowan - any updates on the eta for this decal set or the subjects that will be depicted? Also interested if there is any news on the Camel sets....

Thankya!
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: rowan broadbent on May 22, 2017, 07:24:31 PM
The decals for the Mikro Mir/Avis Fokker E.V kit are now with the printers. In the end I couldn't bear to whittle them down to just one set, so there will be two. The markings are all precisely  tailored to fit the Mikro Mir/Avis kit, including fuselage bands and chevrons, cowling “petals”, tail stripes and the entire fuselage diamonds for Sachsenberg’s yellow and black EV :

32061 Fokker E.V, Volume 1 has the five known Jasta 6 examples (with two full sets of Jasta 6 tail, wheel and cowling markings), one example from an unknown Jasta and a full set of black diamond markings for Ltn.z.S.Sachsenberg's machine, as well as our interpretation of the cowling “eyes” seen in the photograph. 4 additional Fokker style serial number sets are also included and one full set of national markings. Options are:
1.   154/18 Jasta 6 August 1918.
2.   153/18 Jasta 6, Ltn Richard Wenzl, Jasta commander from 10 August to 9 September 1918.
3.   151/18 Jasta 6, pilot Gefreiter Kurt Blümener, August 1918.
4.   Serial not known, Oblt z SGotthard Sachsenberg, CO of Marine Feldjagdstaffel Nr.I, August 1918.
5.   152/18 Jasta 6, August 1918.
6.   132/18, unit not known. Handed over to 1 Sqn, Canadian Air Force post-war.
7.   156/18 Jasta 6, note lightning flash repeated on top decking.


(https://s5.postimg.org/dckzzww1z/32061_profiles.jpg)
(https://s5.postimg.org/oaw9i3knb/32061_decals.jpg)

32062 Fokker E.V Volume 2 includes 3 from various Jasta, one from Poland and two from (probably) Marine Jastas. Includes one full set of German national markings and a full set of Polish markings, including the red rudder top and outlined chequer boards for fuselage and wings (correct for 001). Options are:
1.   Serial not known, Jasta 36. Blue nose and possibly tail surfaces. Alternative fuselage band with red stars included.
2.   Serial not known, probably  from Jasta 8
3.   Serial not known, Jasta 24, Offz.-Stv. Friedrich Altemeir.
4.   187/18  001 of 7 Eskadra Lotnicza, Polish Air Force, 1919.
5.   Serial not known, unidentified Marine Feld Jasta. Alternative white "3" included.
6.   Serial and unit not known, possibly  a MFJ. Chevron colours speculative.

(https://s5.postimg.org/z01828ymf/Revised_32062_cover_sheet.jpg)
NB Second opion revised 24/05/2017 to show striped fin as well as tailplane/elevators
(https://s5.postimg.org/5xvo7ja6f/32062_Decals.jpg)

An assembly jig for the top wing and undercarriage is included in each set as self-adhesive labels, to be applied to 2mm+ card. The jig parts may then be cut out and glued together. We hope this will prove a popular and useful aid, given the multiplicity of individual thin struts and precarious nature of the top wing mounting. 

Prices are: 32061 - £11.75 and 32062 - £14.25.

Pre-order BOTH sets before the end of June for a total price of £20.00.

 As usual, we charge a flat shipping rate for each order. Full details and pre-order forms will be on our website in the next couple of days. Delivery expected by mid July.
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: Juan on May 22, 2017, 08:39:01 PM
Fantastic, thank you Rowan.
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: bobs_buckles on May 22, 2017, 09:42:11 PM
These look superb, Rowan  ;)

Cheers,
vB
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: lcarroll on May 22, 2017, 10:51:25 PM
Spectacular Rowan, Thanks as always! Now the big challenge is which scheme do I do the little devil in?! :-\ ;)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: rhallinger on May 22, 2017, 11:00:30 PM
Thanks a million Rowan!  Brilliant!  ;D

Best Regards,

Bob
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: petrov27 on May 22, 2017, 11:04:27 PM
Yes - these look fantastic - sent PM to preorder

Thanks!!
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: RAGIII on May 22, 2017, 11:56:03 PM
AWESOME Rowan! I am certainly in for Volume1 and will think about volume 2 although I am not likely to use the 2nd set.
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: eclarson on May 23, 2017, 12:23:36 AM
Those look terrific!   Going to be fun deciding which one to build.  :)

Any thought of doing a set of fitted lozenge fuselage decals?

Cheers,
Eric
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: rowan broadbent on May 23, 2017, 01:34:55 AM
Those look terrific!   Going to be fun deciding which one to build.  :)

Any thought of doing a set of fitted lozenge fuselage decals?

Cheers,
Eric
Hello Eric,

I forgot to mention that Richard at Aviattic will be doing a set of fitted lozenge, I believe.  Not sure about dates - maybe he'll chip in with more info.

Rowan
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: rhwinter on May 23, 2017, 02:03:20 AM
Wonderful, Rowan! You did it again...
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: eclarson on May 23, 2017, 03:14:16 AM
Those look terrific!   Going to be fun deciding which one to build.  :)

Any thought of doing a set of fitted lozenge fuselage decals?

Cheers,
Eric
Hello Eric,

I forgot to mention that Richard at Aviattic will be doing a set of fitted lozenge, I believe.  Not sure about dates - maybe he'll chip in with more info.

Rowan

Good news!  Aviattic would be the ideal ones to do so.  Thanks!

Eric
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: petero on May 23, 2017, 04:43:45 AM
Ooh, Sachsenberg's diamonds... I'm in!

Peter
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: dr 1 ace on May 23, 2017, 09:44:35 AM
Nice Choices, should prove a good seller !

Ed
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: jknaus on May 23, 2017, 12:34:28 PM
I was going to go with Sachsenburg's a/c but the 3 and last a/c on sheet 2 are really calling to me. Nice schemes Rowan.
James
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: Rob_Owens on May 24, 2017, 12:58:06 PM
Stupendous!!! ;D  Just the schemes I'd hoped for!! Will have a preorder for both in, post haste
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: pierrelm on June 27, 2017, 05:03:25 AM
Hello Rowan, first of all I hope you are in the rudest of rude health sir?
A question: from the profiles it appears that you may be opting for an olive/brown wing colouring - I remember the declaration on the Aerodrome forum by DSA regarding the use of streaked coloured stain which differed for top and under surface of the wing and wondered which you favour? I personally, with respect to those who put the debate forward, find it difficult when folk, well intended and studious as they may be, make what are clearly intended as definitive pronouncements on WWI colour schemes. Unless we KNOW what colours are, it's all guesswork, with a varying degree of education. I sort of opt for blissful ignorance...

Yours, as ever 
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: Rob_Owens on June 29, 2017, 11:30:06 AM
Just ordered both sheets, under the end of June deadline to take advantage of the bargain price. . . Now I'll have to invest in some beautiful Aviattic 4-color Loz.  Poor me! :'(
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: rowan broadbent on June 30, 2017, 05:30:09 AM
Hello Rowan, first of all I hope you are in the rudest of rude health sir?
A question: from the profiles it appears that you may be opting for an olive/brown wing colouring - I remember the declaration on the Aerodrome forum by DSA regarding the use of streaked coloured stain which differed for top and under surface of the wing and wondered which you favour? I personally, with respect to those who put the debate forward, find it difficult when folk, well intended and studious as they may be, make what are clearly intended as definitive pronouncements on WWI colour schemes. Unless we KNOW what colours are, it's all guesswork, with a varying degree of education. I sort of opt for blissful ignorance...

Yours, as ever 

Health now all systems go, thanks for asking - heart has new plumbing and big old tumour and right kidney now removed with no signs of any spreading of nastiness, diabetes well in check and no lasting ill-effects from the toxic shock syndrome; I'm back on the bike and knocking off 15 to 30 kms most days and feeling ten years younger. Happy as the proverbial pig in manure!

I share your antipathy towards unequivocal statements on WWI colours without sufficient factual evidence (see the late great Carl Sagan's quote below...). There has been too much of that in the past but I detect a more cautious approach nowadays. Certainly Ray Rimell has always urged caution when interpreting WWI colours and the same attitude is clear in WNW booklets.

As to the EV wing colours I find the brown/green upper surface and violet/blue under surface streaking with wood stains/dyes on plywood to be very beguiling, although the possibility of mixing green and brown and blue and violet to give a uniform streaked colour above and below is also quite  a logical interpretation. Where it differs from the streaking practice on fabric surfaced Fokkers is in the use of wood stain on plywood, of course, which gives its own particular effect. I am of the tentative view that the replacement wings shipped to the front after the grounding of the original EVs and used in subsequent D.VIII new production aeroplanes might have had a single colour streaked finish top and bottom - olive green top and blue lower - as a means of easily differentiating between the two production wings (surely something pilots would have wanted) and as a further cost reduction (two stains instead of four and less labour to apply) by the notoriously cost-conscious Fokker. EVs supplied to Poland would almost certainly have been fitted with the new-build wings and they could have had such a finish, but that is all pure guess-work and extrapolation, as I'll be making very clear in the booklets for the two sets.

Ray the printer tells me that the decals are on schedule and I should get them in the next week or so. The jigs for wing and undercarriage fitting are now done and tested and the booklets nearly done, so we should get the sets out to pre-order customers in mid July, as originally promised.  The special offer for both decal sets expires tomorrow midnight, by the way! My order for a WNW Oberusel engine for the Mikro Mir kit has just gone off, so I want to get building my own EV soon - Looking forward to some good old-fashioned plastic whittling!

Rowan
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: lcarroll on June 30, 2017, 08:06:36 AM
   Great news Rowan, good health has no substitute and I'm very pleased to hear yours has been restored! Also great news on the D.VIII Decals, I am looking forward to getting my hot hands on them. As for your comment:
  "Looking forward to some good old-fashioned plastic whittling!"
   I can absolutely assure you, you will get that and more.........mine weighs at least a pound less then when I opened the box and there are shavings all over our house, the fit is somewhat less then optimum!!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: coyotemagic on June 30, 2017, 08:24:18 AM
So glad to see that you're in the pink again, my old friend!  Now I can resume pestering you as to the whereabouts of your Pup that started it all and, by the way, when will the first Camel sheets appear?
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: rhwinter on June 30, 2017, 05:47:50 PM
Hi, Rowan: Gooood to have you back on board again!!
"See" you at my next order from Pheon Decals ( no, not for the Fokker E.V, which is not my cup of tea..),
Richard
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: pierrelm on July 01, 2017, 01:56:53 AM
Hello Rowan, first of all I hope you are in the rudest of rude health sir
Yours, as ever 

Health now all systems go, thanks for asking ...I'm back on the bike and knocking off 15 to 30 kms most days and feeling ten years younger. Happy as the proverbial pig in manure!

Rowan

Brilliant news, the best of the lot. Peter Sagan will be doubtless looking over his shoulder in fear and trepidation over the next fortnight, just in case you fancy having a pop at the green jersey...

Take care, very best wishes to you both xx
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: RAGIII on July 11, 2017, 12:55:57 AM
I just received and Paid my invoice. Thanks Rowan I am looking forward to using the decals and Jigs!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: lcarroll on July 11, 2017, 01:02:33 AM
   Same, Rowan and Sabine. Thanks for all you do for our Hobby! :) 8)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: Radarman on July 11, 2017, 03:06:33 AM
Got my invoice too. I really look forward to receiving these decals. Enjoy the remaining summer.
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: Juan on July 11, 2017, 09:21:39 AM
Just paid, looking forward to receiving these beauties (and others ordered)....  :D
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: bobs_buckles on July 11, 2017, 09:12:22 PM
Glad you're feeling 10 years younger, Rowan. That means 10 extra years of your lovely work! BINGO!

Von B  :)
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: Des on July 11, 2017, 10:14:47 PM
Fantastic news about your health status Rowan, marvelous what a good tune-up and grease and oil will do for the old ticker, my replumbing was done 20 years ago and it is still going strong.

Paid my invoice yesterday so looking forward to getting the two sets of decals.

Des.
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: Jeff K on July 16, 2017, 04:49:05 PM
whoa didn't know about your surgery until now. glad it all went well and you're getting your strength back. health is the only currency one can use to buy more time...
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: Nigel Jackson on July 17, 2017, 04:30:05 AM
This is indeed wonderful news about your health, Rowan. I was so happy to read it.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: Syd Solo on July 20, 2017, 11:11:47 PM
Rowan
So pleased to hear your health is now tip-top. You'll need the old ticker to be in good shape to endure the excitement of all those rugby internationals you'll no doubt be watching.  :D

Looking forward to your future decal releases.

Cheers

Syd
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: rowan broadbent on July 20, 2017, 11:59:46 PM
Thanks so much for all the good wishes. In the last two days I've been back to hospital for a scan to check on any remaining cancer - nothing found, yippeee! and today I've had a stress test on the heart (they do work you hard!) and all is working well, double yippee!!

There has been a small delay in sending out the EV decals, as I found a slight printing error (wrong colour used) and decided to modify the Jasta 6 cowling decals a little after a test - nothing massive but better to get this right than not. The added decals will be here early next week and Sabine will send them out from 25th July.

I've also decided that I'll be doing a comprehensive etched upgrade for the Mikro Mir/Avis kit (working on that now - more details soon but it will include a full under-fuselage area with separate access door and fastners, and a replacement top deck, strut hardware, fabric stitching, internal details etc.) to go with Richard's Aviattic seat and his replacement resin cowling (to be released a little further down the road). So, with a replacement engine from WNW or the resin one from Vector, Richard's lozenge decals and our two sets of marking decals there should be some nice EVs appearing over time! (just hope that WNW don't pop one out now........).

Two new decal sets to be announced later today - including the first lot for the Camel.... any guesses??
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: lcarroll on July 21, 2017, 12:35:11 AM
Rowan,   
   It's all good news, starting with your health checks of course; so glad you've continued to recover to perfect form!
   Looks like I may be "parking" the E.V a bit longer, the "strut hardware" you mention has caught my attention. I have modified the top cowl to my satisfaction but have been pondering the strut to wing and fuselage connections a lot, and to no success I might add. With the small delay on the decals it might be well worth waiting for your etched set for the strut additions.
   As for the Camel Sets, no guesses however great news and better timing!!! (I just started one yesterday :))
Keep up the great work!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: coyotemagic on July 21, 2017, 02:25:10 AM
Can't tell you how happy I am to see that you've gotten a clean bill of health, Rowan!  Please take better care of yourself from here on out, my old friend.  You're much needed and appreciated.
Cheers,
Bud

PS-As for the first Camel offering, I'm betting on 210 Squadron, although I'm really hopping for the red and white sunburst 2F.1.
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: petrov27 on July 21, 2017, 05:48:32 AM
I've also decided that I'll be doing a comprehensive etched upgrade for the Mikro Mir/Avis kit (working on that now - more details soon but it will include a full under-fuselage area with separate access door and fastners, and a replacement top deck, strut hardware, fabric stitching, internal details etc.) to go with Richard's Aviattic seat and his replacement resin cowling (to be released a little further down the road). So, with a replacement engine from WNW or the resin one from Vector, Richard's lozenge decals and our two sets of marking decals there should be some nice EVs appearing over time! (just hope that WNW don't pop one out now........).


sounds great - will the etch include the little under-wing access doors for the aileron control wires? Also a replacement fold up ammo container maybe?  :)
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: RAGIII on July 21, 2017, 08:18:21 AM
Wow Rowan! All of the EV goodies sound Terrific! Between you and Richard I am going to be in Major Debt  ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1/32 Fokker EV/DVIII decals
Post by: AndRoby67 on May 10, 2019, 07:26:36 AM
Hi Rowan!
I'm Roberto Andervill from Italy and some years ago we had some emails about the 1/72nd scale sheet for Macchi M.5 and Italian Hanriots Hd.I (what's the fate of this sheet?).
First I'm happy to read to your health is good.
Second, the 1/32nd kit of the E.V/D.VIII have inside suggestion for realize italian civil I-ELIA in its all red version. Why not to prepare a "bonus" decal sheet for the ones that wants to realize a civil flying razor?
I attach the only known photo (to me) of this a/c. In my opinon and following the rules of our civil aviation in the twenties the code letters are black inside a white field sourrounded by black outline. You may see this under main wing in photo.
Hope you choose to prepare this set!
Cheers,
Roberto