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The Hobby Showroom => TaurusModels => Topic started by: taurusmodels on January 04, 2017, 06:41:38 AM
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I finally started working on Clerget engines family (9B, 9BF, 9Z and 9N). I'm still waiting for a book (Clerget Patent Aero Engines: Instructions and List of Parts) to have exact dimensions of the engine. To tell you the truth it's the only obstacle, that hamper starting crankcase. Maybe somebody has any plans or dimensions of this engine? It's difficult to measure it in museum, as far as crankcase is concerned.
I'd be grateful for your help.
All the best, Lukasz
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Luhasz,
Have you considered making them just a wee smaller than absolutely accurate to 1/48 & 1/32 scales to account for the Thicknesses of the cowls in the existing kits ??
Ed
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Hello Ed!
Yes, I'll apply 1:33 scale, and try to fit it to Triplane cowl (of course after thinning).
all the best, Lukasz
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I'm afraid I can't help with measurements but I just wanted to say that I am really looking forward to seeing the results of your research. Your work is incredible!
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Thanks a lot!
Boo is in the way, should be within a week :)
Meanwhile I'm preparing other sets, tomorrow I'll show first :)
All the best, Lukasz
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Hi Lukasz,
I just spotted this on ebay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLERGET-PATENT-AERO-ENGINES-INSTRUCTIONS-LIST-OF-PARTS-9B-9BF-PAPERBACK-/361870678281?hash=item54412c5909:g:DnMAAOSwA3dYbRfD (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLERGET-PATENT-AERO-ENGINES-INSTRUCTIONS-LIST-OF-PARTS-9B-9BF-PAPERBACK-/361870678281?hash=item54412c5909:g:DnMAAOSwA3dYbRfD) but I don't know if you already have it.
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Looking forward to seeing what you come up with Lukasz.
Des.
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Looking forward to seeing what you come up with Lukasz.
Des.
I know this book - already is flying to me - waiting for it impatiently :)
All the best, Lukasz
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Hello All,
I am a new member here and hope I can add somthing to the forum. I am building a model of sorts, a full scale Sopwith F1 Camel using many original parts including an original Le Clerget 9b. If you need any photos or dimentions please contact me and I will try to help. My web site is www.kozaero.com
I am a big fan of accurate scale models and I hope to help out with the details if you need anything.
Sincerely,
Koz
(http://www.kozaero.com/uploads/2/4/2/1/2421031/1656389.jpg)
(http://www.kozaero.com/uploads/2/4/2/1/2421031/5772390.jpg)
(http://www.kozaero.com/uploads/2/4/2/1/2421031/5135686.jpg)
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Hello All,
I am a new member here and hope I can add somthing to the forum. I am building a model of sorts, a full scale Sopwith F1 Camel using many original parts including an original Le Clerget 9b. If you need any photos or dimentions please contact me and I will try to help. My web site is www.kozaero.com
I am a big fan of accurate scale models and I hope to help out with the details if you need anything.
Sincerely,
Koz
(http://www.kozaero.com/uploads/2/4/2/1/2421031/1656389.jpg)
(http://www.kozaero.com/uploads/2/4/2/1/2421031/5772390.jpg)
(http://www.kozaero.com/uploads/2/4/2/1/2421031/5135686.jpg)
Oooo, I haven't been here for a long time....
Your proposition saves my life! I'm still waiting for overall clerget dimension - I need crankcase diameter for starting my project. Could you help me in this matter? Writing PM.
All the best, Lukasz
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OK, it's time for showing some progress. This engine is definitely more difficult, than Br2 - crankcase is complicated and smooth, so difficult to accurate reproduce. Hope, I'll manage :)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/1.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/2.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/3.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/4.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/5.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/6.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/7.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/8.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/9.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/10.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/11.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/12.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/13.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/14.jpg)
All the best, Lukasz
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Absolutely top notch engineering Lukasz :o
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Z%20Oddments/mindblown.jpg)
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Absolutely top notch engineering Lukasz :o
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Z%20Oddments/mindblown.jpg)
My too.!!!!! ;D
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Superb! :o
vB
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Very nice! What a great new product!
Borsos
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Nice job Łukasz. :D
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Some progress... Clerget 9B and 9z crank case
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/15.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/16.jpg)
all the best, Lukasz
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Looking great Łukasz. :D
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Progresssss....
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/17.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/18.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/19.jpg)
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How on Earth is this even possible? Incredible detail :o
Mind blown.
Von B
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Yes, absolutely mind blowing. This will be anoter masterpiece worth building an airplane around as a background....
Borsos
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Forward:
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/20.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/21.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/22.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/23.jpg)
Thank you so much Tom for your help!
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Where do you buy these enormous matches?
Richard
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Any Updates Lukasz ?
Cheers
Andrew
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Of course Andy!
Cylinder finally ready, working on valves and lifters - little bit complicated but almost ready. Pictures will be soon :)
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The highest time for update:
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/24.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/25.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/26.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/27.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/28.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/29.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/30.jpg)
More soon :)
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The highest time for update:
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/24.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/25.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/26.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/27.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/28.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/29.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/30.jpg)
More soon :)
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I'm convinced you've hired small elves to do this, the word exquisite doesn't even do justice. You don't make models, you're an artist.
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The amount of detail you are adding to this engine is incredible, you are a true master.
Des.
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Your work is so beautiful, it should be against the law to cover it with a cowling.
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+1 on the above comments.
You're a genius :o
vB
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Valve cage didn't fit...
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/30.jpg)
I was little upset, but prepare another one. I think, that better: I reproduced the shape in more accurate way, see below:
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/31.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/32.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/33.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/34.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/35.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/36.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/37.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/38.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/39.jpg)
And test fitting of all parts I prepared so far:
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/40.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/41.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/42.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/43.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/44.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/45.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/46.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/47.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/48.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/49.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/50.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/51.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/52.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/53.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/54.jpg)
All the best, Lukasz
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Absolutely brilliant, model engineering at its best.
Des.
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Never thought I would see valve springs modelled on a 1/32 Clerget engine. Masterpiece!
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Z%20Oddments/mindblown.jpg)
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I think the springs are added afterwards. I can't see any way of casting them (I might be wrong and think about giving up modelling :o)
Cheers
Andrew
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Incredibly brilliant craftsmanship Lukasz! :)
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Stunning :o
vB
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Can hardly wait...
Ed
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which was harder to find, the real Clerget or the enormous match head?
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Hi Lukasz
Any updates ? :D
Cheers
Andrew
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Just catching up.........yikes!!!!!!
Steve
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Hi Lukasz
Any updates ? :D
Cheers
Andrew
Thanks Andy for motivation :)
A few new parts is waiting for photo-session :) I'll try to do this tomorrow.
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Proszę bardzo.
Andrew
Hi Lukasz
Any updates ? :D
Cheers
Andrew
Thanks Andy for motivation :)
A few new parts is waiting for photo-session :) I'll try to do this tomorrow.
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Detail level is beyond any limit... Chapeau!
Giuseppe.
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Lukasz,
You Engineering skills and Master Modeler skills are second to none my old friend. Absolutely awesome detail too. Keep up the highest excellence!
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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We need more PICTURES!!!!!!
;) ;)
vB
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We need more PICTURES!!!!!!
;) ;)
vB
Even better will be when Lukasz finishes it and it is available for us !!!! :) :) :) :)
Ed
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Finally I made some pix...
As usually it took me a ling time, results are rather little...
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/61.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/62.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/63.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/64.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/65.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/66.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/67.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/68.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/sp1.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/sp2.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/sp3.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/sp4.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/sp5.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/sp6.jpg)
I hope, that next time I'll show larger progress within a shorter time.
By the way, I'm working on my website and hope it will look little better soon.
All the best, Lukasz
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Model engineering at its finest, your work is absolutely superb and so tiny, this will be a brilliant model when completed.
Des.
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"results are rather little..."
Lukasz,
On the contrary, spectacular detail in these results. Truly impressive work, It's "mind blowing actually! :o
Cheers,
Lance
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"results are rather little..."
Lukasz,
On the contrary, spectacular detail in these results. Truly impressive work, It's "mind blowing actually! :o
Cheers,
Lance
Agree 100%, can hardly wait for it to be available ! I assume it will be priced between the Oberursel and the Bentley.
ED
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And finally I updated my website....
And a few better pix:
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/69.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/70.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/71.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/72.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/73.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/sp7.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/sp8.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/sp9.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/sp10.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/sp11.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/sp12.jpg)
All the best, Lukasz
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You're the best ;)
vB
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WOW.
those spark plugs are so tiny, you'll need a better macro lens to capture the detail.
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Finally some progress. Thrust box this time. First attempt was failure, second also... fortunately third was acceptable - all you can see in pictures step-by-step. For this time base of the thrust box is ready, and soon will be complete.
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/74.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/75.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/76.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/77.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/78.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/79.jpg)
All the best, Lukasz
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Magic!
vB ;)
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Brilliant!!
Steve
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amazing!
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Any updates Lukasz ?
Cheers
Andrew
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don’t know how i missed this thread before...
it really amazing!
how on earth did you ever crafted such a big match to show against the real engine?? ;)
ciao
edo
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Master craftsman Astounding!!!!!!!
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And finally, last pix from workbench, see galeries :)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/build/1.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/build/2.jpg)
(http://www.taurusmodels.pl/img/clerget/build/3.jpg)
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All the best, Lukasz
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Lukasz,
I've just gone through your 3 posts here on the Clergets; spectacular doesn't even come close! Again I must revert to MIND BLOWING, beautifully crafted and Built! These products are very impressive, nicely done!
Cheers,
Lance
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Lukasz,
The detail on these engines has left me speechless. I think I learned more about rotary engines just from looking at this series of photos of the assembly of your models than I have from seeing pictures and reading about the real thing. Just incredible craftsmanship.
Bill
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A joy to behold :)
Thank you for all your great work.
Cheers,
Bob
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A model that can easily be taken for a real engine when looking at its pictures...
Simply great!
Giuseppe
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Truly amazing!!
Steve
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One of the best engine models I have ever seen in any scale (including 1/9 or 1/12 and similar large scales).
Borsos